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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: OG Hack Wilson on May 16, 2010, 06:30:38 PM
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http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/37175778/ns/sports-player_news/
Darrelle Revis is seeking an average annual salary that exceeds $20 million per year, according to Michael Lombardi of the National Football Post.
In other words, Revis wants to be one of the highest paid players in NFL history, quarterbacks included. The Raiders signed Nnamdi Asomugha to a record three-year, $45.3 million deal last offseason and Revis wants to blow that out of the water. As Lombardi says, "this will not be an easy contract to get done, especially anytime soon."
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Damn, thought Messi had became greedy for a second there.
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deserves it.
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deserves it.
he has 3 years left on his contract which already was restructured
maybe this is why the Jets drafted Wilson and traded for Cromarte
20 mill when there's going to be a salary cap that the league doesn't have determined yet??? get the fuck outta here
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Hmmm I dont know,revis is a beast but its pretty selfish of a player to ask for that much money.it pretty much handcuffs whatever team he is on to not be able to build a team around.If he wants 20 million a year Id rather the jets let him walk then pay him that.One player doesnt win a championship and 20 million dollars is just flat out greed.
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what he's asking for won't happen, it's probably just more of a "i want a pay raise".
nobody would spend the money on him, mostly because as the Jets proved, having arguably the greatest shutdown corner ever doesn't mean you're going to win; whose going to spend 20 million of your cap on a defensive player if you don't have the other stools to win?
he's worth 50 million to me though. ;) :P
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Goddamnit....I saw "Best Player in Football" as the subject. Open it up...and it isnt even the best Cornerback in Football.
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Goddamnit....I saw "Best Player in Football" as the subject. Open it up...and it isnt even the best Cornerback in Football.
this Asomugha ass nigga. :D
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Goddamnit....I saw "Best Player in Football" as the subject. Open it up...and it isnt even the best Cornerback in Football.
yes it is
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Goddamnit....I saw "Best Player in Football" as the subject. Open it up...and it isnt even the best Cornerback in Football.
yes it is
Not according to opposing QB's and offensive coordinators who decide to throw at him 3 times more then Aso lol Revis just gets more opportunities for highlights cus people keep throwing the ball in his direction. Sportscenter doesnt exactly like to show highlights of how QB's only threw at Asomugha 27 times last year.
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Goddamnit....I saw "Best Player in Football" as the subject. Open it up...and it isnt even the best Cornerback in Football.
this Asomugha ass nigga. :D
;)
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A couple of points must be made.
Aso plays at RIGHT CB, which mean he's almost always covering the #2 WR unless there is a shift on.
He also gets thrown at less than Revis because Revis draws QB's into throwing his way. Why else is he one of the most thrown at CB's in the league? It's funny and something I've always noticed about Revis since he done that interview saying he gets "bored". Making WR's look open is something a lot of CB's try but few get away with. Revis knows he's the best player on the defense, he wants the ball coming his way often. People undestimate just how much this adds to his value. PFF have him as the third most tested CB in the regular season, getting thrown at 111 times. Then he has some ridiculous #'s, giving up just 36% os passes coming his way, QB's having a 32.3 QB rating throwing his way....that's just nuts.
and you don't see Asomough shut down Andre Johnson, Randy Moss (twice), chad Johnson, Reggie Wayne etc. like you saw Revis.
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A couple of points must be made.
Aso plays at RIGHT CB, which mean he's almost always covering the #2 WR unless there is a shift on.
He also gets thrown at less than Revis because Revis draws QB's into throwing his way. Why else is he one of the most thrown at CB's in the league? It's funny and something I've always noticed about Revis since he done that interview saying he gets "bored". Making WR's look open is something a lot of CB's try but few get away with. Revis knows he's the best player on the defense, he wants the ball coming his way often. People undestimate just how much this adds to his value. PFF have him as the third most tested CB in the regular season, getting thrown at 111 times. Then he has some ridiculous #'s, giving up just 36% os passes coming his way, QB's having a 32.3 QB rating throwing his way....that's just nuts.
and you don't see Asomough shut down Andre Johnson, Randy Moss (twice), chad Johnson, Reggie Wayne etc. like you saw Revis.
lol All great CB's attempt to bait QB's into throwing their direction. It isnt something Revis invented LOL. Nnamdi has already established himself as a great CB, and by many...the best in the league. Revis is a relative New Kid on the Block which is why he was thrown at 4 times more than Nnamdi last year (not because of baiting QB's like all great CB's do lol)....that isnt exactly a close number lol. I can guarantee you he gets tested less this year as respect around the league has increased...the way it did for Nnamdi. Revis does not cover the other teams #1 receiver all game lol. Bottom line....Nnamdi is more of a shut down corner. He completely shuts off his half of the field. Thats what you want out of your CB. Revis held Moss to a low yards total...but got scored on. Tedd fuckin Ginn burned his ass for a TD. Nnamdi had one TD thrown against him all year, and that was week 1 when the safety blew a coverage in a zone. Oh...and i didnt mention Nnamdi is far better against the run. He had more tackles for a loss then Revis did. Revis is slower to react on running plays. Revis is very good, and had an amazing year last year. But as an OVERALL corner...he still is looking up and Aso.
Oh yeah...its also being reported that Revis is saying he didnt ask for 20 mil.
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Ted Ginn was able to get deep over the Jets D because Miami was able to absolutely pound the crap out of our D that night. Brown and Williams were coming around the edge all night and Revis, Rhodes and Leonard were being asked to string out plays and make tackles on big running backs all night and they did.
You pull a cover corner like Revis up and ask him to make solo tackles on Brown or Williams all night, it's not that tough to get a play where a world class sprinter can get behind the D. It could have been Rhodes fault or it could have been the fact that Miami simply pounded us and sucked the D up.
and as I stated earlier, Asomough doesn't always face the other teams #1. Many times even...Revis on the other hand does.
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http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2009&pos=CB&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1
this site helps a lot
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http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2009&pos=CB&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1
this site helps a lot
lol no it doesnt
If youre completely stupid enough to believe that Aso is the 17th best corner in the league....then there is no help for you. LOL
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http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2009&pos=CB&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1
this site helps a lot
lol no it doesnt
If youre completely stupid enough to believe that Aso is the 17th best corner in the league....then there is no help for you. LOL
oh btw...this website just ranks the players on what they think.
They also have Rivers, Favre, and Big Ben above Peyton.
Apparently Vincent Jackson and Sydney Rice are better then Reggie Wayne...Andre Johnson...Fitzgerald...etc
Vernon Davis (yes...Vernon Davis) is the 57th ranked TE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wtf?!?!
AP is the 17th best half back.....this site is fuckin great for indepth analysis......lol
Holy shit...lol
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http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2009&pos=CB&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1
this site helps a lot
lol no it doesnt
If youre completely stupid enough to believe that Aso is the 17th best corner in the league....then there is no help for you. LOL
oh btw...this website just ranks the players on what they think.
They also have Rivers, Favre, and Big Ben above Peyton.
Apparently Vincent Jackson and Sydney Rice are better then Reggie Wayne...Andre Johnson...Fitzgerald...etc
Vernon Davis (yes...Vernon Davis) is the 57th ranked TE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wtf?!?!
AP is the 17th best half back.....this site is fuckin great for indepth analysis......lol
Holy shit...lol
Wait wait...it gets even better LOL
In 2008....if I were to take a poll and ask...."who do you feel is the best half back in the game?" Im sure I would get a TON of people agreeing with this site..and say..."Derrick Ward"!!!! LOL
And....definitely a ton of people putting Correll Buckhalter and Sammy Morris above AP (who is at 15th in 2008) lol. This site worse then when NIK tried to use the bleacherreport.com to argue his Laker points lol
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Hold up Hack...youre killin me LOL
2007........3rd best QB according to this site....yeah....you guessed it. Jon Kitna....obviously.
Top running back....LT? No....he's #2. AP? Of course not...he's #16.....how could you not guess it.....Ernest Graham! I could see that. He's pretty solid....Ernest Graham. lolol
Sorry....sorry...k....Ima stop now....LOL
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either way Revis > Aso
[Holmes’s] assignment on the particularly play was to come out to the flat and block All-Pro cornerback Darrelle Revis. No big deal right? Except Revis never feels like being blocked. Not in a game. Not in practice. So instead of absorbing Holmes’ soft hit, Revis delivered his own blow, knocking the former Super Bowl MVP flat on his rear end. Welcome to the Jets.
"He tried to block me and I kind of moved him out of the way," Revis said with smile. "I told him I was sorry afterward."
Actually, Revis wasn’t all that sorry. And after the initial shock of getting decked, Holmes didn’t seem to mind either.
"The more you do to me and the harder I work the better we all become,” Holmes said. "From what I’ve been accustomed to in Pittsburgh, it’s a lot different with these guys. They’re willing to work hard. There are no short cuts during practice and that’s what I like."
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either way Revis > Aso
LOL
I appreciate that tho man....I havent laughed that hard in a minute. That site was fuckin pure comedy man....
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we'll agree to disagree sir
Asomough is no scrub....it's an honor to be the 2nd best CB in the league ;)
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we'll agree to disagree sir
Asomough is no scrub....it's an honor to be the 2nd best CB in the league ;)
Im sure Revis feels honored :P
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Damn, thought Messi had became greedy for a second there.
;D
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Why would peopel throw to aso when hes the only great player on defense and he only plays one side of the field?LOL,all they have to do is line up their receiver on the other side of the field or run the ball on oakland which they do all year.Why would you throw to the area of the one great player on raiders defense?Revis is better then aso,its not even debateable,except by daygo.Ask any analyst whos better youll get your answer 8)
I mean look at this way,if an opposing team is weak on the left side of their offensive line and has pro bowlers on the right side,would you send all your blitz packages to the right side?No,youd send them to the weak side obviously.Now that doesnt make the strong side players the best in the league because coaches are quote scared unqoute to blitz on that side it makes them smart to attack the teams weaknesses.Now why would people throw to the one side of the field that aso can cover when they can run the ball on them all day and throw to the left side?lol that doesnt make aso the best it just means hes the best player on a weak team.
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the reason there are very few "2 way" players in the NFL (offense and defesnse) is because of injury potential
nobody wants their star cornerback getting hurt trying to catch a pass on offense
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Why would peopel throw to aso when hes the only great player on defense and he only plays one side of the field?LOL,all they have to do is line up their receiver on the other side of the field or run the ball on oakland which they do all year.Why would you throw to the area of the one great player on raiders defense?Revis is better then aso,its not even debateable,except by daygo.Ask any analyst whos better youll get your answer 8)
I mean look at this way,if an opposing team is weak on the left side of their offensive line and has pro bowlers on the right side,would you send all your blitz packages to the right side?No,youd send them to the weak side obviously.Now that doesnt make the strong side players the best in the league because coaches are quote scared unqoute to blitz on that side it makes them smart to attack the teams weaknesses.Now why would people throw to the one side of the field that aso can cover when they can run the ball on them all day and throw to the left side?lol that doesnt make aso the best it just means hes the best player on a weak team.
Its not debateable?! LOL Are you kidding me. Aso has been rated the best corner in the league the last few years. Revis entered the picture really last year as far as the "best in the league" argument. He had a great year no doubt. But ONE year doesnt magically make you the best. How much of a bust was Forte last year in everyones fantasy league after one great year? lol. If you wanna make the argument that Revis is better...thats fine. But to say it isnt debateable is kinda retarded man. Analysts have been praising Aso forever. But thats because he was head n shoulders above everyone. In a competition with Revis....Revis will hold the advantage. He plays for a dominant defense. Aso doesnt...so he will always tend to get forgotten more then others. When your teams defense is great...it tends to help everyone shine. If you wanna make the argument that the reason Aso doesnt get thrown to more...is because teams know they can run the ball...or throw to the other side of the field to beat the Raiders. Fine. Makes sense. But at the same time, it also limits his opportunities for highlights (like it or not...sportscenter plays a huge role in public perception. And they dont highlight guys who just keep the ball from being thrown their way...they highlight interceptions). Which is the main reason you see Revis's interception total being higher. He plays on a better D where QB's have to throw his way so he gets more chances to make big plays. Aso doesnt. Id be willing to bet Cromartie has a FAR better year this year then last. Why? Cus he is on a better D and will get more opportunities for picks. Bottom line, you put Asomugha on the Jets...and Revis will still get targeted more.
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(http://www.mtrmedia.com/.a/6a00e5513d181b88340133ef210684970b-800wi)
Rex Ryan is compraing Revis to the greatest corners in history lol
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The best cb argument is so moot. They're all the same
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The best cb argument is so moot. They're all the same
Elaborate.
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The best cb argument is so moot. They're all the same
They obviously arent all the same. But I think there is a group of a few at the top that can be called the best. Really right now, IMO the argument is down to 2 and that is Aso and Revis. But really, its tough to call just like its tough to say who is the best WR in the game. So many aspects of their games depends on the players around them.
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(http://www.mtrmedia.com/.a/6a00e5513d181b88340133ef210684970b-800wi)
Rex Ryan is compraing Revis to the greatest corners in history lol
LOL because Rex Ryan doesnt have any dog in that fight huh?
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Revis was robbed of defensive player of the year.
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Revis was robbed of defensive player of the year.
Yeah...Charles Woodson stole it from him with a better year lol
Tackles Sacks Interceptions TDs Forced Fumbles
Woodson 66 2 9 3 4
Revis 47 0 6 1 0
Normally I dont like simply using stats. But when the Aso vs Revis argument pops up on here, Hack likes to use stats as the basis for his argument. I argue that stats dont always show the whole picture, because defenses are different. On one hand you can say Aso shuts down his half of the field more because there are less balls thrown his way. On the other hand you could say the fact that the Raiders run defense was weak last year, means teams were running the ball more against them. On the other hand you could say Revis had more chances for picks as teams tested him more so his INT numbers will be higher. Etc. Well, if stats are good enough to argue for Revis as the top CB...then they are also good enough to argue against him. Apparently...according to Hack....Charles Woodson was the best CB last year. Give it up to Woodson! lol
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Pass Deflections: Revis: 31, Woodson: 18
Revis: 40 receptions on 108 targets (37.0 percent) for 439 yards and two touchdowns.
Woodson: 40 receptions on 84 targets (47.6 percent) for 560 yards and six touchdowns
Revis had a ten percent better burn percentage,giving up the same numbers of catches against on 24 more attempts, 121 less yard and giving up four less touchdowns.Revis had the best burn percentage in the nfl,making him the best cb in the nfl last year.
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Pass Deflections: Revis: 31, Woodson: 18
Revis: 40 receptions on 108 targets (37.0 percent) for 439 yards and two touchdowns.
Woodson: 40 receptions on 84 targets (47.6 percent) for 560 yards and six touchdowns
Revis had a ten percent better burn percentage,giving up the same numbers of catches against on 24 more attempts, 121 less yard and giving up four less touchdowns.Revis had the best burn percentage in the nfl,making him the best cb in the nfl last year.
Youre right, statwise it was close last year...with Woodson having a little better numbers.
My point remains, you cant use stats to argue for Revis over Aso...and not use stats to argue for Woodson over Revis. There are different scenarios for each CB that attribute to their overall numbers and success. Aso being more established than Revis means he is seeing less balls thrown his way. Best believe this year, Revis will see a drastic decrease in passes thrown in his direction. Why? Because the league knows how good he is now. Thats what has happened with Aso. With that lack of balls thrown his way, he will also have less INT's more than likely, and less pass deflections. If you have used his stats to argue over Aso last year...what will you use when his stats go down this year due to lack of opportunities? Because Revis supporters will just come up with some other arguing point and pretend stats are meaningless then.
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deserves it.
i lolled. but then i realized you like chamillionaire and casual homosexual sex.
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Pass Deflections: Revis: 31, Woodson: 18
Revis: 40 receptions on 108 targets (37.0 percent) for 439 yards and two touchdowns.
Woodson: 40 receptions on 84 targets (47.6 percent) for 560 yards and six touchdowns
Revis had a ten percent better burn percentage,giving up the same numbers of catches against on 24 more attempts, 121 less yard and giving up four less touchdowns.Revis had the best burn percentage in the nfl,making him the best cb in the nfl last year.
Youre right, statwise it was close last year...with Woodson having a little better numbers.
My point remains, you cant use stats to argue for Revis over Aso...and not use stats to argue for Woodson over Revis. There are different scenarios for each CB that attribute to their overall numbers and success. Aso being more established than Revis means he is seeing less balls thrown his way. Best believe this year, Revis will see a drastic decrease in passes thrown in his direction. Why? Because the league knows how good he is now. Thats what has happened with Aso. With that lack of balls thrown his way, he will also have less INT's more than likely, and less pass deflections. If you have used his stats to argue over Aso last year...what will you use when his stats go down this year due to lack of opportunities? Because Revis supporters will just come up with some other arguing point and pretend stats are meaningless then.
Revis will still get thrown at a lot you know why?Aso covers one side of the field,teams just line their star receiver up on the other side of the field and throw to him.Revis covers the best receiver on every team,a lot of teams only have one great receiver,hell some teams dont even that.But it doesnt matter who is covering your number one receiver,you are still going to throw to him.Thats why revis will continue to get thrown on and thats what makes his accomplishments all that more impressive.Hes going against the best recivers in the nfl every single week and shutting them down.Thats his job.Woodson has more tackles and other stats because he gets used in a variety of ways.He gets used in double coverage,rushing the passer,helping with the run and in zone.Now,revis can do all that and would stack up his other stats as well,but when your the best cover cb in the league and your shutting down most teams only receiving threat,no coach is going to fuck with that.you just let him cover man to man and then blitz like hell.Hes the key cog on the jets defense,he makes it work.If you blitz like the jets blitz and dont have an amazing cb your going to get burned continously.Hes the number one component of the jets number number one defense.Hes the best cover corner in the nfl.Woodson gets used in a different role,if he was as good as revis he wouldnt be used differently he would be doing the same thing as revis.But you dont take revis off coverage to go rush the passer,any cb can go rush the passer.
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Pass Deflections: Revis: 31, Woodson: 18
Revis: 40 receptions on 108 targets (37.0 percent) for 439 yards and two touchdowns.
Woodson: 40 receptions on 84 targets (47.6 percent) for 560 yards and six touchdowns
Revis had a ten percent better burn percentage,giving up the same numbers of catches against on 24 more attempts, 121 less yard and giving up four less touchdowns.Revis had the best burn percentage in the nfl,making him the best cb in the nfl last year.
Youre right, statwise it was close last year...with Woodson having a little better numbers.
My point remains, you cant use stats to argue for Revis over Aso...and not use stats to argue for Woodson over Revis. There are different scenarios for each CB that attribute to their overall numbers and success. Aso being more established than Revis means he is seeing less balls thrown his way. Best believe this year, Revis will see a drastic decrease in passes thrown in his direction. Why? Because the league knows how good he is now. Thats what has happened with Aso. With that lack of balls thrown his way, he will also have less INT's more than likely, and less pass deflections. If you have used his stats to argue over Aso last year...what will you use when his stats go down this year due to lack of opportunities? Because Revis supporters will just come up with some other arguing point and pretend stats are meaningless then.
Revis will still get thrown at a lot you know why?Aso covers one side of the field,teams just line their star receiver up on the other side of the field and throw to him.Revis covers the best receiver on every team,a lot of teams only have one great receiver,hell some teams dont even that.But it doesnt matter who is covering your number one receiver,you are still going to throw to him.Thats why revis will continue to get thrown on and thats what makes his accomplishments all that more impressive.Hes going against the best recivers in the nfl every single week and shutting them down.Thats his job.Woodson has more tackles and other stats because he gets used in a variety of ways.He gets used in double coverage,rushing the passer,helping with the run and in zone.Now,revis can do all that and would stack up his other stats as well,but when your the best cover cb in the league and your shutting down most teams only receiving threat,no coach is going to fuck with that.you just let him cover man to man and then blitz like hell.Hes the key cog on the jets defense,he makes it work.If you blitz like the jets blitz and dont have an amazing cb your going to get burned continously.Hes the number one component of the jets number number one defense.Hes the best cover corner in the nfl.Woodson gets used in a different role,if he was as good as revis he wouldnt be used differently he would be doing the same thing as revis.But you dont take revis off coverage to go rush the passer,any cb can go rush the passer.
Revis will clearly see a decline in balls thrown his way. If you think otherwise than you must think he isnt that respected around the league. He had a great year last year, but Cromartie looked like the best in the league for one year lol. He has a few more years of competing for the best CB in the league title to be on the same page with Nnamdi. Yes there are reasons why Revis is targeted more, again...good for him because he has more chances to build stats and make sportscenter. Nnamdi doesnt have that luxury. He just has to shut down who is in front of him, as well he has to be a better run stopper and blitzer from the CB position than Revis does. Bottom line, Revis last year played for a far better defense. So he will get more attention. If Revis played for the Raiders D last year we wouldnt be talking as much about him because he would have Nnamdi's numbers but will have shut down who ever he is sticking just the same. Not to mention, Nnamdi plays in a true man to man defense..its as basic as it gets. Luckily for Revis, due to the Jets defense..."Revis Island" has frequent visitors from helping Safeties. He doesnt have to be alone on that island too often.
Again, I dont knock Revis. He had a great year, and is definitely one of the best right now. Its just funny how people...Jets fans...can sound so ignorant in this debate as if there is one clear cut best CB in the league. Any of us could make the argument for who we want. I say its Nnamdi...you can say its Revis, and shit....for all we know it could be Woodson. But to act like the guy one person is arguing for is the clearcut choice is as stupid as NIK saying Kobe is CLEARLY better than LeBron.
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Best player in Football? I guess the Colts should trade Manning for Revis if they want to get over the hump. I'm sure Jets fans won't mind.
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deserves it.
i lolled. but then i realized you like chamillionaire and casual homosexual sex.
lol, who are you? go play Soccer.
anyway, just the list of opponets that Revis guarded; all the number one recievers on the Jets schedule & there are some impressive ass names on there, all were held to under 60 yards.
& my complaint with Aso is, sure, other teams don't throw to him, but look at the defense he is on.
a Vietnam Vet with two nubs as legs could rush for a solid 87 yards against the Raiders defense.
so why would a coach risk even throwing him the ball? you're going to score, so why even give him the chance to make a play on you? if Revis or any Pro-Bowl QB was in Aso's position, they wouldn't get thrown at either.
he's still amazing though lol.
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I want to say a big fuck you to al davis for asos ridiculous contract.No cb deserves that kind of money and revis is using the contract as a line in the sand.As much as I love revis Id rather trade him then jets give him aso money and fuck up the rest of the team.If you get offered 12 million a year say,but you say no I want 16 mill,thats just greed and showing you dont give a fuck about winning,just money.One stupid contract should not dictate what a position should be paid.
You can tell what a guy like tom brady cares about when hes only making 8 million a season,he cares about winning,I can respect that.And 8 million in one year is more money then most people ever see in their entire lives.
Revis is signed for three more years,push comes to shove hes not going to hold out.
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I want to say a big fuck you to al davis for asos ridiculous contract.No cb deserves that kind of money and revis is using the contract as a line in the sand.As much as I love revis Id rather trade him then jets give him aso money and fuck up the rest of the team.If you get offered 12 million a year say,but you say no I want 16 mill,thats just greed and showing you dont give a fuck about winning,just money.One stupid contract should not dictate what a position should be paid.
You can tell what a guy like tom brady cares about when hes only making 8 million a season,he cares about winning,I can respect that.And 8 million in one year is more money then most people ever see in their entire lives.
Revis is signed for three more years,push comes to shove hes not going to hold out.
Al Davis has a habit of fuckin up shit for the rest of the league by overpaying. You gotta remember though, there seems to be two big motivating factors with players signing with a team. Money and the chance to win a Superbowl. When a team that has struggled as the Raiders have as of late, there is really one way to get players signed....overpay.
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The best cb argument is so moot. They're all the same
Elaborate.
Ok, but I hate debating on the net, mainly because I hate typing. Any way, my point is every year there is some new hotshot, young, fast db stating he's the greatest.
From C.Woodson to C.Bailey to Aso to this Revis guy. I'm not doubting these dudes ability or that they might be better than the norm, however, the stats for db's are subjective. And no one is shutting down one side of the field. All media hype and reputation, because every cb gets burned or gives up catches.
Point is, these so called shutdown cb's are not winning championships, its the defensive system with the appropriate reads, as a team. Just a bunch of mumbo jumbo talk that I don't buy into. And don't get me started on rb's........
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The best cb argument is so moot. They're all the same
Elaborate.
Ok, but I hate debating on the net, mainly because I hate typing. Any way, my point is every year there is some new hotshot, young, fast db stating he's the greatest.
From C.Woodson to C.Bailey to Aso to this Revis guy. I'm not doubting these dudes ability or that they might be better than the norm, however, the stats for db's are subjective. And no one is shutting down one side of the field. All media hype and reputation, because every cb gets burned or gives up catches.
Point is, these so called shutdown cb's are not winning championships, its the defensive system with the appropriate reads, as a team. Just a bunch of mumbo jumbo talk that I don't buy into. And don't get me started on rb's........
I agree....sort of. You cant deny that there are CB's who are better than others. Just like every other position. But I do agree that the defensive system plays a big part in a CB's success. I think you do have different levels and CB's like Aso, Woodson, Bailey, Revis are a level above the rest. Longevity is the only way to judge these guys though. Cus like I said before....you could take one year and say that Cromartie is the best CB in the league. But over the long haul...how do they perform.
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And for a couple of years Asanti Samuels was hailed as the greastest.