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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Prof@ssor on June 17, 2010, 10:09:55 AM
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Seriously that shit makes me laugh every time i read it.
Take a look at these Dr. Dre records for example, all of them are already finished, mastered, mixed etc...but, I truly believe, they downgrade the quality ON PURPOSE to make you believe it's unfinished.
Many people already heard ''Ester Dean'' on the chorus, and Dre has been working on this record since february or march, you actually think he still hasn't finished the song? And if he didn't why would he release it?!
Face it people it's all to test the waters. It's called marketing, and most of you eat that shit.
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So don't listen to Detox. :D
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Yeah its to test reactions
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That's bullshit. Why would you leak some unfinished shit to test the waters? That's like jackin off in front of a girl to show her you can fuck good. Knock it off with the conspiracy theories.
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i cant agree ... Whats the purpose of leaking an unfinished track ? I dont see whats the marketing reason. I believe dre is still working on it
whenever he started it, he can take a pause, work on other tracks then come back to this one...
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Seriously that shit makes me laugh every time i read it.
Take a look at these Dr. Dre records for example, all of them are already finished, mastered, mixed etc...but, I truly believe, they downgrade the quality ON PURPOSE to make you believe it's unfinished.
Many people already heard ''Ester Dean'' on the chorus, and Dre has been working on this record since february or march, you actually think he still hasn't finished the song? And if he didn't why would he release it?!
Face it people it's all to test the waters. It's called marketing, and most of you eat that shit.
i believe in marketing, many of em bein really tricky, but what u wrote its (no ofense) bullshit.. if he would want to see a reaction, he would leak more advanced track, not that much unfinished version.. i feel interscope/dre/dre and jimmy bein not really honest with us, but its not how u explained that, totally
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the first leak of crack a bottle was not finished, i don't see how you can say otherwise
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the first leak of crack a bottle was not finished, i don't see how you can say otherwise
that was just a leak, not any marketing trick, so nothin weird in that
this theory is fail..
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i think that does happen sometime but not in this case, the thing i'm trip'n on is they say this muthafucca was done awhile ago like a couple of months bacc and it's still not mastered? quik wasn't lying what he said about dre yell
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i think that does happen sometime but not in this case, the thing i'm trip'n on is they say this muthafucca was done awhile ago like a couple of months bacc and it's still not mastered? quik wasn't lying what he said about dre yell
what he said?
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Seriously that shit makes me laugh every time i read it.
Take a look at these Dr. Dre records for example, all of them are already finished, mastered, mixed etc...but, I truly believe, they downgrade the quality ON PURPOSE to make you believe it's unfinished.
Many people already heard ''Ester Dean'' on the chorus, and Dre has been working on this record since february or march, you actually think he still hasn't finished the song? And if he didn't why would he release it?!
Face it people it's all to test the waters. It's called marketing, and most of you eat that shit.
99.9% of all leaked songs are leaked on purpose. I never believed the supposed Detox reference joints were any different.
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beat is plain dre is definitely still working on it. There was no hook some dumbass leaked it hopefully dre will release the final version
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I don't believe Dre intentionally leaks "downgraded" tracks. If anything, Dre fusses over a track forever and ever until it's perfect, then half the time decides to scrap the song anyway. That's why it takes so long for a Dr. Dre album to come out. But I don't think he would "downgrade" a song. Dre's too particular about how a song sounds. He wouldn't want people to hear a Dr. Dre song, intentionally made worse. Just my opinion.
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I think the leaks are completely intentional to test the waters with the music.
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i can agree wit the leakes bein leaked specially, but why would they be 'downgraded' or unfinished? doesnt make sense at all
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i think the track was finished bar the hook ...
the verses were complete and the beat was finished ... they just were going to add the hook
but both Dre & Jay Z would need to redo their vocals after hearing the Crooked I version
he showed them how they should be riding that beat ... properly.
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i can agree wit the leakes bein leaked specially, but why would they be 'downgraded' or unfinished? doesnt make sense at all
it creates hype, especially after 10 years of silence.
Then you can complain about it leaking, which is promo.
And you can see how it's received, people can help you make it better.
If fans like it, create buzz over release.
If fans don't like it, no problem just an unfinished leak.
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I don't believe Dre intentionally leaks "downgraded" tracks. If anything, Dre fusses over a track forever and ever until it's perfect, then half the time decides to scrap the song anyway. That's why it takes so long for a Dr. Dre album to come out. But I don't think he would "downgrade" a song. Dre's too particular about how a song sounds. He wouldn't want people to hear a Dr. Dre song, intentionally made worse. Just my opinion.
it's not just an opinion, it's the truth ;)
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i can agree wit the leakes bein leaked specially, but why would they be 'downgraded' or unfinished? doesnt make sense at all
it creates hype, especially after 10 years of silence.
Then you can complain about it leaking, which is promo.
And you can see how it's received, people can help you make it better.
If fans like it, create buzz over release.
If fans don't like it, no problem just an unfinished leak.
yes, but there ACTUALLY is a diffrence between finished and unfinished track, so if some1 wants a serious opinion, he would leak final version, or the one like 'crack a bottle' which was unfinished, but very close to the final one
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i can agree wit the leakes bein leaked specially, but why would they be 'downgraded' or unfinished? doesnt make sense at all
it creates hype, especially after 10 years of silence.
Then you can complain about it leaking, which is promo.
And you can see how it's received, people can help you make it better.
If fans like it, create buzz over release.
If fans don't like it, no problem just an unfinished leak.
yes, but there ACTUALLY is a diffrence between finished and unfinished track, so if some1 wants a serious opinion, he would leak final version, or the one like 'crack a bottle' which was unfinished, but very close to the final one
Like I said, this creates anticipation and if the fans don't like it he can just throw it away without losing face.
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i can agree wit the leakes bein leaked specially, but why would they be 'downgraded' or unfinished? doesnt make sense at all
it creates hype, especially after 10 years of silence.
Then you can complain about it leaking, which is promo.
And you can see how it's received, people can help you make it better.
If fans like it, create buzz over release.
If fans don't like it, no problem just an unfinished leak.
yes, but there ACTUALLY is a diffrence between finished and unfinished track, so if some1 wants a serious opinion, he would leak final version, or the one like 'crack a bottle' which was unfinished, but very close to the final one
Like I said, this creates anticipation and if the fans don't like it he can just throw it away without losing face.
um have u read what i wrote?
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yeah i beleive the shit is leaked on purpose to get a reaction...if the reaction is good (ex Crack A Bottle) then it drops...if not then its back to the lab...Dr Dre is waaaaaaaaaay too guarded with his shit for it to leak out on accident....hell he is trying to sue Wideawake to stop the release of shit he made 15 years ago at Death Row...
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i think the track was finished bar the hook ...
the verses were complete and the beat was finished ... they just were going to add the hook
but both Dre & Jay Z would need to redo their vocals after hearing the Crooked I version
he showed them how they should be riding that beat ... properly.
i disagree with that,if crooked came out with his song on that,it wouldn't do nothing, but i got to remember west coast bias on this forum if one likes it,they swear it would go double plat :-\ yell
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i think the track was finished bar the hook ...
the verses were complete and the beat was finished ... they just were going to add the hook
but both Dre & Jay Z would need to redo their vocals after hearing the Crooked I version
he showed them how they should be riding that beat ... properly.
i disagree with that,if crooked came out with his song on that,it wouldn't do nothing, but i got to remember west coast bias on this forum if one likes it,they swear it would go double plat :-\ yell
u disagree with what exactly?
that the track was practically finished or that Crooked I rode that beat better than Dre & Jigga?
Bias? I really don't get your post...
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yeah i beleive the shit is leaked on purpose to get a reaction...if the reaction is good (ex Crack A Bottle) then it drops...if not then its back to the lab...Dr Dre is waaaaaaaaaay too guarded with his shit for it to leak out on accident....hell he is trying to sue Wideawake to stop the release of shit he made 15 years ago at Death Row...
yeah, but i still don't think Dre liked the fact that the version with Eminem rapping his part, was uploaded on the internet.
he was probably happy that it became popular though
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but both Dre & Jay Z would need to redo their vocals after hearing the Crooked I version
he showed them how they should be riding that beat ... properly.
8)
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They are leaked intentionally, true, but it's to support Dre's headphones and Recovery, not to "test the waters."
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They are leaked intentionally, true, but it's to support Dre's headphones and Recovery, not to "test the waters."
fuck recovery, dre dont care bout it.. if so its bout the headphones, hes in love with those headphones, couse jimmy prolly got a nice profit from it
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yeah i beleive the shit is leaked on purpose to get a reaction...if the reaction is good (ex Crack A Bottle) then it drops...if not then its back to the lab...Dr Dre is waaaaaaaaaay too guarded with his shit for it to leak out on accident....hell he is trying to sue Wideawake to stop the release of shit he made 15 years ago at Death Row...
Cat is that u homie...i ask cause i see u got that (BC POWDA)which is your production company name or your publishing name....but yeah your wright,he is way to guarded.. was he like this back in yalls wrecken crew days?
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They are leaked intentionally, true, but it's to support Dre's headphones and Recovery, not to "test the waters."
no way it's to support Recovery, that doesn't make sense at all
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For making good income out of Eminem, he really should encourage anything that could help the sale of Recovery at this uncertain time in a failing music industry. The higher the sale, not only means more money, but also means confidence in the label, and a wave of supporters, and business opportunities further down the line. When these records flop, Aftermath takes a hit for it
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The leaked Dr. Dre tracks are not unfinished or fake as some might claim (what´s up Octo?), they´re just god awfull.
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For making good income out of Eminem, he really should encourage anything that could help the sale of Recovery at this uncertain time in a failing music industry. The higher the sale, not only means more money, but also means confidence in the label, and a wave of supporters, and business opportunities further down the line. When these records flop, Aftermath takes a hit for it
Aftermath is failing bcuz of the way Dr. Dre is handling Detox. It has nothing to do with Eminem (besides Relapse) or Bishop Lamont or anything, it's strickly bcuz of Dr. Dre. U might call that a shallow thought but 7 years later and a gang of misrepresentation and misleading is bound to fuck up your company PR. Even if this wasn't a techno track it would still be a fail due to tha fact that we waited so long for something so simple as a song. It's really either now or never for Dr. Dre and Aftermath. Dre should've just dropped Detox out of the blue and could'nt nobody had said shit about it.
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Dre supposedly has a vault full of dope material that will never see the light of day. Now why out of all the shit he could leak would he choose to leak a half ass unfinished song that most people aren't feeling? If it was an attempt at promotion its an extremely terrible attempt considering 90% of the people who heard it are disappointed. Here's an idea for promotion....leak something good.
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The leaked Dr. Dre tracks are not unfinished or fake as some might claim (what´s up Octo?), they´re just god awfull.
lol so you consider shit popped off, crack a bottle first leak, flashing, finished?
if so, you got some serious brain damage
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ill say it again you must be stoopid for thinking they are not leaked on purpose, im sure Dre gave Kannoby dude the song in high quality ...i bet many artists got the instrumental to experiment and Dre is gonna pick the best chorus.
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ill say it again you must be stoopid for thinking they are not leaked on purpose, im sure Dre gave Kannoby dude the song in high quality ...i bet many artists got the instrumental to experiment and Dre is gonna pick the best chorus.
dont be funny that was a real shitty one, not sayin bout the quality, but that was just wakk
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Seriously that shit makes me laugh every time i read it.
Take a look at these Dr. Dre records for example, all of them are already finished, mastered, mixed etc...but, I truly believe, they downgrade the quality ON PURPOSE to make you believe it's unfinished.
Many people already heard ''Ester Dean'' on the chorus, and Dre has been working on this record since february or march, you actually think he still hasn't finished the song? And if he didn't why would he release it?!
Face it people it's all to test the waters. It's called marketing, and most of you eat that shit.
You should change your name because you get an F in your theory. One, we all know Dre is a perfectionist. We don't know exactly how long Dre has been working on individual songs and if this was the original one that had been announced. And in case you were also addressing the tracks that were released through the past year or two; none of those actually had Dre on them and it is common for artist to "Demo" songs for the performing artist to get a feel for.
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I think some of you must be on crack with these theories. They are intentionally leaking reference tracks to sell headphones and create hype? How does that work? The reception to just about everything has been lukewarm at best. So they take a song that's done and downgrade the quality on purpose? Why? There's probably hundreds of easier ways to test the waters than that.
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That's bullshit. Why would you leak some unfinished shit to test the waters? That's like jackin off in front of a girl to show her you can fuck good. Knock it off with the conspiracy theories.
Candidate for quote of the year!
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Dre knew he had way too high of expectations to meet, and he really would never be able to do it. So now he throws out some mediocre bullshit like this and instantly everyone is disappointed. Now when the actual album drops it will be much better than this, and people will be pleasantly surprised because they were afraid it might be this garbage.
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Dre knew he had way too high of expectations to meet, and he really would never be able to do it. So now he throws out some mediocre bullshit like this and instantly everyone is disappointed. Now when the actual album drops it will be much better than this, and people will be pleasantly surprised because they were afraid it might be this garbage.
If nothing else, your theory makes the most sense so far.