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Title: Do you agree with being a hater?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on June 26, 2010, 06:11:00 PM
From an interview with Kool Kim, who you probably don't know who the fuck is but he had a hit back in the days and calls himself nyoil now. Touches on some real shit and ain't afraid to call himself a hater.

http://www.unkut.com/2006/10/not-for-sale-nyoil-interview/

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The sad thing about the rap world today is that anyone who criticizes the weak shit gets called a “hater”. Have you been accused of that?

I am a hater. So are you. I read your column, you’re a hater big time. So is most of the people that come to your site. What’s wrong with being a hater? I hate certain shit! I hate the fact that a brother can come home after 4 years of college, struggle his ass off, no food ’cause he on a limited scholarship, barely keep a roof over his head, living off TopRamen noodles…Gotta rock the same 4 or 5 outfits for the semester cause his family ain’t really got it for him to get fresh. But somehow that brother stays strong and makes it through, and after all that struggle he come home to nothing. This nigga ain’t shit in the hood he get no glory. But let this fucking dude come home from lock up after a 4 year fuck up. 3 hots and a cot after basically being a fucking loser ’cause if you got locked up that mean you fucked-up somewhere along the line – so your not even a good criminal. “Aww, this dude is the shit”. He gonna get some pussy, the block gonna have a fucking picnic, parties, niggas is gonna have a new outfit for him a blunt already rolled up and the whole shit. That don’t inspire hate in you? You got love for that injustice? If you do then you’re some kind of pussy.

I had a line in the song that said: “I saw a porn online the shit blew my mind had to be the biggest disrespect of all time. White boy and a black girl on a dirty bed, had her moaning ‘Heil Hitler’ with his foot on her head…” I ain’t make that shit up – I saw this shit with my own eyes! I mean, fuck dude, I like porn like the next dude but got damn! That’s the new shit now? And blacks ain’t outraged by this? I mean hey, if you’re a white dude, the fuck do you care, but if you’re a human being that shit has to upset you. But I’m a “hater” ’cause I subscribe lynching to people who without good cause or reason do this sort of shit.

And you know what? Fuck that “hater” shit! Fuck “Keeping It Real”! Fuck “Stop Snitching”!” Fuck all these wack-ass rap slogans. So any type of bullshit you decide to subscribe to is just “keeping it real”, and if someone take exception to it, they’re “hating” on you? And this “stop snitching” shit? What the fuck? Look man – not for nothing. This dude that Busta Rhymes keep shouting out – his bodyguard – that was watching his jewelery! Do you understand? The brother was being paid to watch a bag full of fucking processed metal and rocks! A father with young children we are talking about. Some ole’ bullshit rap beef between niggas that are getting mad money as it is pops off and guess who gets killed? Now Busta is tryna be street credible, so he goes on a “Stop Snitchin’” campaign? Doggy, that’s not snitchin’…

Me and you rob a bank, we pull the shit off but somewhere down the line I get pinched by the cops. They interrogate me and offer me a plea, or they try to break me into telling ‘em who I was with – or they just bag me up – and instead of taking my bid like a man, I start snitching. That’s snitching. Someone killing another man at your video shoot which is like someone coming into your house or your place of business and violating like that. You supposed to either straighten it out yourself or you supposed to see to it that the family get justice. And you know what? I love Busta, but I love justice more. And we see where that street cred got him – the type of people that respect that sort of bullshit got no love or loyalty to anyone.
Title: Re: Do you agree with being a hater?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on June 26, 2010, 06:22:53 PM
Who cares what anyone calls you?

Being called a "hater" is no different than being called a bitch, an asshole, or any other insulting word(s) someone could come up with.

Don't let words shake you. 8)
Title: Re: Do you agree with being a hater?
Post by: BOX5 the best poster on this site yell on June 26, 2010, 06:26:56 PM
i agree with last part of that no doubt,and people don't know what snitching is, and hater is said often like a quicc lil kid comebacc line just like "yo mama" it's that simple  ;D,  and kool kim " he gave us "one to grow on" and when it was "time to set us straight" he didn't flinch when he said we all should be lynched"  that's who he is haha yell
Title: Re: Do you agree with being a hater?
Post by: Action! on June 26, 2010, 06:30:21 PM
NYOIL is dope.  One of the few with some commen sense.
Title: Re: Do you agree with being a hater?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on June 26, 2010, 07:44:27 PM
son kept it 100 all of the way thru.  i liked that.
Title: Re: Do you agree with being a hater?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on June 26, 2010, 07:54:31 PM
"No snitching" is the most retarded thing I've ever heard of; always thought that.

It was just a simple way of smart criminals to convince retarded expendibles to keep their mouth shut or else they "aren't keeping it real" or "going against the code" or whatever you want to call it.

Ever notice when it comes down to it, all the top dogs always snitch? Frank Lucas, one of the biggest drug dealers ever, snitched out everybody & their mother & you know how many times he probably told other people on his climb to the top to "not snitch"?

It's such a joke, you'd have to be an idiot to buy into that.
Title: Re: Do you agree with being a hater?
Post by: G-Funk on June 26, 2010, 08:06:28 PM
son kept it 100 all of the way thru.  i liked that.
agreed.
Title: Re: Do you agree with being a hater?
Post by: Action! on June 26, 2010, 08:45:04 PM
"No snitching" is the most retarded thing I've ever heard of; always thought that.

It was just a simple way of smart criminals to convince retarded expendibles to keep their mouth shut or else they "aren't keeping it real" or "going against the code" or whatever you want to call it.

Ever notice when it comes down to it, all the top dogs always snitch? Frank Lucas, one of the biggest drug dealers ever, snitched out everybody & their mother & you know how many times he probably told other people on his climb to the top to "not snitch"?

It's such a joke, you'd have to be an idiot to buy into that.

I'm a hundred percent pro snitching across all platforms from the police to the streets.  Crooked mutherfuckas need to be exposed
Title: Re: Do you agree with being a hater?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on June 26, 2010, 08:57:58 PM
"No snitching" is the most retarded thing I've ever heard of; always thought that.

It was just a simple way of smart criminals to convince retarded expendibles to keep their mouth shut or else they "aren't keeping it real" or "going against the code" or whatever you want to call it.

Ever notice when it comes down to it, all the top dogs always snitch? Frank Lucas, one of the biggest drug dealers ever, snitched out everybody & their mother & you know how many times he probably told other people on his climb to the top to "not snitch"?

It's such a joke, you'd have to be an idiot to buy into that.

I'm a hundred percent pro snitching across all platforms from the police to the streets.  Crooked mutherfuckas need to be exposed

Exactly. I mean, I could understand if your life was at risk & you didn't snitch or some ridiculous circumstances came into play; but to "not snitch" for the sake of protecting somebody to live up to some "street standards" is retarded. Likely, whoever you're protecting would give you up so fast...

You ever see "A Bronx Tale"? That's an example of "not snitching" I would approve of, I guess you could say. Somebody questions you about somebody you don't really know & you're protecting him, but not giving anything up; kind of just acting like you didn't see anything. That's something I would do.

But if you told me I either give some guy up or go to jail or anything was going to be taken from me; FUCK that guy, he shouldn't of broken the law lol.
Title: Re: Do you agree with being a hater?
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on June 26, 2010, 09:20:32 PM
Who cares what anyone calls you?

Being called a "hater" is no different than being called a bitch, an asshole, or any other insulting word(s) someone could come up with.

Don't let words shake you. 8)

YUP.
Title: Re: Do you agree with being a hater?
Post by: Action! on June 26, 2010, 09:46:09 PM
"No snitching" is the most retarded thing I've ever heard of; always thought that.

It was just a simple way of smart criminals to convince retarded expendibles to keep their mouth shut or else they "aren't keeping it real" or "going against the code" or whatever you want to call it.

Ever notice when it comes down to it, all the top dogs always snitch? Frank Lucas, one of the biggest drug dealers ever, snitched out everybody & their mother & you know how many times he probably told other people on his climb to the top to "not snitch"?

It's such a joke, you'd have to be an idiot to buy into that.

I'm a hundred percent pro snitching across all platforms from the police to the streets.  Crooked mutherfuckas need to be exposed

Exactly. I mean, I could understand if your life was at risk & you didn't snitch or some ridiculous circumstances came into play; but to "not snitch" for the sake of protecting somebody to live up to some "street standards" is retarded. Likely, whoever you're protecting would give you up so fast...

You ever see "A Bronx Tale"? That's an example of "not snitching" I would approve of, I guess you could say. Somebody questions you about somebody you don't really know & you're protecting him, but not giving anything up; kind of just acting like you didn't see anything. That's something I would do.

But if you told me I either give some guy up or go to jail or anything was going to be taken from me; FUCK that guy, he shouldn't of broken the law lol.

Only naturally there's always exceptions.  It's very unlikely I'll snitch on family unless it was some vicious crime like rape or serial murders.
Title: Re: Do you agree with being a hater?
Post by: dubsmith_nz on June 26, 2010, 10:22:00 PM
son kept it 100 all of the way thru.  i liked that.
agreed.

 8)
Title: Re: Do you agree with being a hater?
Post by: BOX5 the best poster on this site yell on June 27, 2010, 06:40:34 PM
this is a perfect reason why i think telling the truth about your crimes on records are stupid if the statue ain't up, but you know rappers have to keep it real, and if i got a team of folks and we all decided to do some activities,we all know the deal,and if you rat you get killed, but if you have no ties to someone and they hit an old lady or something and you report that,that is not snitching, people just try to fucc up the meaning of shit yell
Title: Re: Do you agree with being a hater?
Post by: westsiderider323 on June 27, 2010, 06:44:34 PM
i dont give a fuck if someone calls me a hater
Title: Re: Do you agree with being a hater?
Post by: Jimmy H. on June 27, 2010, 11:10:31 PM
That snitching thing has always been weird because it's more about honor to an image than anything else. If you're a murderer, you don't tell on other murderers. If you're a drug dealer, you don't tell on other drug dealers. But for you to be a regular cat and just let a loved one or yourself become a victim, it's all crazy. 
Title: Re: Do you agree with being a hater?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on June 27, 2010, 11:19:59 PM
y'all make Snitching seem all so simple, it's more complex than that, it's simple but complex.  YOU DONT TELL NO MATTER WHAT, YOU HANDLE YOUR BUSINESS ACCORDINGLY.  if you get caught up in other people's madness, remember you have the right to remain silent (which most niggaz forget, cops don't have nothing unless you tell them something, they use their imaginations to put tha pieces together and use u as the dummy to glue the pieces). 


yeah it's 1 thing when some nigga is killing old ladies and raping little children but it's another when some nigga is punking you or if u get caught up doing something and u try 2 bring em down (that's still the crabs in a barrell sydrome).  most of the time it's a hard pill 2 swallow but it's what you gotta do otherwise at the end of the day somebody is still gonna go thru the INJUSTICE of the system (no matter how hanus or harmless the crime actually is).  let's not all get to actin' like we should condone snitching bcuz it's looked a little ignorant from the world of hiphop.  it's just dumb niggaz who tell it wrong (which i haven't even seen any if u ask me).


snitching is a bad thing and if u get caught up u should man up.  there's only a HANDFUL of situations of when you have to tell somebody something.  other than that u keep your mouth closed.  i don't condone killing but if you get me or my folks life then u should in turn get ur life aswell. 






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl2QOz7Ehgg
Title: Re: Do you agree with being a hater?
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on June 29, 2010, 04:58:28 AM
It's only snitching when you give someone up to avoid your own time.  If you doin illegal shit and you get caught, you take it, don't give up your partner or peer cuz he was smarter than you.

If someone is killin in 4E damn right I'm gonna snitch.  I ain't want no one to hurt me OR my community.

If no one is getting hurt tho, let it slide and go about ur own business.
Title: Re: Do you agree with being a hater?
Post by: BOX5 the best poster on this site yell on June 29, 2010, 12:50:59 PM
If someone is killin in 4E damn right I'm gonna snitch.  I ain't want no one to hurt me OR my community.
^^^^that is not snitching, if you ain't live that lifestyle or take no parts of that. that's just being a concerned citizen, see all these rap songs and smash dvd's got people believing that's "snitching", and they just say that shit for they own benefit yell
Title: Re: Do you agree with being a hater?
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on July 01, 2010, 03:17:36 AM
If someone is killin in 4E damn right I'm gonna snitch.  I ain't want no one to hurt me OR my community.
^^^^that is not snitching, if you ain't live that lifestyle or take no parts of that. that's just being a concerned citizen, see all these rap songs and smash dvd's got people believing that's "snitching", and they just say that shit for they own benefit yell

Yup.
Title: Re: Do you agree with being a hater?
Post by: kevin t on July 01, 2010, 06:27:32 AM
i only hate haters and i only snitch on snitches ;)
but yeah that dude talked sense through that whole interview, good to see