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Title: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: Mo Z. Dizzle on June 27, 2010, 06:59:34 PM
Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal' (http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/2010/06/27/report_bosh_lebron_bulls/)

BY WEB STAFF
sportsnet.ca

The NBA free agent race for LeBron James and Chris Bosh may be over before it even begins.

According to a report in the New York Times, a team executive from one of the clubs chasing James said the soon-to-be free agent was strongly leaning towards joining the Chicago Bulls along with Chris Bosh. The source said he gathered as much from discussions with his fellow NBA executives, saying, "I think it's a done deal."

The source also told the paper that the Miami Heat, New York Knicks, New Jersey Nets and Los Angeles Clippers would also try to lure James away from the Cleveland Cavaliers once the window for free agent discussions opens on July 1. The paper says that the Dallas Mavericks will try to arrange a meeting with James as well.

James, who has decided to remain in Ohio instead of going on a city tour, will meet with interested teams on his home turf. He has spent all seven years of his young career with his hometown Cavaliers but has failed to win an NBA championship.

The Bulls are one of many teams who have been busy trying to free up cap space in an attempt to sign some of the big-name free agents on this summer's market. In addition to James and Bosh, the free agent class also includes NBA all-stars Dwyane Wade of the Heat and Joe Johnson of the Atlanta Hawks.

Bosh, drafted fourth overall by the Raptors in 2003, has averaged 20.2 points and 9.4 rebounds over seven seasons in Toronto. He has gone on record as saying re-signing with the Raptors remains an option, but he will test the open market.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: Chamillitary Click on June 27, 2010, 07:16:22 PM
six-peat.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: westsiderider323 on June 27, 2010, 07:20:19 PM
i heard that chris bosh said that the heat were at the top of his list  ???
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 27, 2010, 08:10:59 PM
i heard that chris bosh said that the heat were at the top of his list  ???
he said "a top contender"


but he's waiting for Bron...he'll follow him wherever
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 27, 2010, 10:24:11 PM
Am I the only one that think Bosh would be making a mistake by simply following LeBron? I think he would be better off joining a team with Wade. Wade has shown he can win a title with a good bigman. Not to mention, as big a star as Wade is...he isnt LeBron. Bosh will ALWAYS be looked at as LeBrons Robin. He will be what Gasol is to Kobe. With Wade I think he will be seen as more of an equal. All I know is...if LeBron and Bosh join the Bulls, youre talkin TONS of pressure to win a title. No titles=huge failure.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: wcsoldier on June 27, 2010, 10:35:56 PM
I know what you mean but Bosh is not worth a number 1 option or a 1A , he's a nice player , put up some great stats but in terms of impact on  the outcome of the game , he's overrated ... there's a reason why he couldn't lead the Raptors 2 years in the row in the playoffs with a very decent roster in the EAST ... he's terrible defensively ...

Bulls would have a great roster but it's a team game , you just do not win titles just by adding players , it's not that simple (this is for the six peat comment lol)

Rose and Lebron will have to learn to play off the ball aswell , if that trade happens
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 27, 2010, 11:05:16 PM
bosh has no post moves


lebron would be better going to NYK with David Lee and Amare and getting a Tony Parker
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: LooN3y on June 27, 2010, 11:09:13 PM
i think it would be a disaster for rose, i dont see him playing off ball, lebron either their not gonna fit, i see rose leaving but who knows i could be wrong.


but lebron/wade wade/paul lebron/paul would never happen they have too much all around talent. it gotta be a  post player and a permieter player period.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on June 27, 2010, 11:09:29 PM
LeBron James is the PosterBoy for the Broke Niggaz From The Hood Who Wanna Play Ball player.  President Obama only glittered the icing on the cake when he vouched for LeBron.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: The Watcher on June 28, 2010, 01:02:19 AM
lebron isn't really gonna work with a pg who wants to control the play

also: bosh and lebron were just announced to sign with the lakers next season

^ that statement has about as much credibility as this "source"
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: Halu Sination on June 28, 2010, 02:14:47 AM
Bosh already denied these reports. And not only is the source is horrible, but even the QUOTE was left ambiguous. "I think its a done deal?" lol, right...

What a lot of people seem to be forgetting when considering these articles is that as of now, there's only one team that can actually sign two full max contracts, and that's Miami Heat (and we have to assume one of those two max contracts is going to Dwyane Wade). So any other team looking to sign two star players is going to have to hope that one of the stars in mind is willing to take a paycut and/or can't find any other place to sign. And athletes at that age are pretty goddamn greedy.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: IRAN iz Gangsta! on June 28, 2010, 09:07:50 AM
this team aint gonna work, all 3 of these guys wanna be the main guy on the team; rose, james and bosh
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: Chamillitary Click on June 28, 2010, 09:31:48 AM
you just do not win titles just by adding players

LOL, says the Lakers fan.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: Lunatic on June 28, 2010, 10:34:19 AM
LBJ would be an idiot to sign with the Bulls. The pressure to match Jordan's 6 rings would be immense and yes although LBJ/Bosh/Rose would be crazy, the possibility of winning 6 titles is never high. Stupid move Imo. He'll be known as a failure if he goes to Chicago and doesn't win an insane amount of rings.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: Chamillitary Click on June 28, 2010, 10:39:52 AM
LBJ would be an idiot to sign with the Bulls. The pressure to match Jordan's 6 rings would be immense and yes although LBJ/Bosh/Rose would be crazy, the possibility of winning 6 titles is never high. Stupid move Imo. He'll be known as a failure if he goes to Chicago and doesn't win an insane amount of rings.

If he just wins three over the course of 10 years, that would be fine.

Sure, people will always put him second to Jordan, but that's going to happen regardless; even if he finds a way to win six; they still might put him second even if he wins seven lol.

Let's be real, he's already under that pressure to match Jordan's six rings whether he goes to Chicago, stays in Cleveland or goes to New York; he's just gotta set himself up with the right cast to give it a shot.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: theremedy360 on June 28, 2010, 11:31:44 AM
bosh has no post moves


lebron would be better going to NYK with David Lee and Amare and getting a Tony Parker

Bosh is arguably the most complete big man in the league and is >Amare.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on June 28, 2010, 11:41:02 AM
Am I the only one that think Bosh would be making a mistake by simply following LeBron? I think he would be better off joining a team with Wade. Wade has shown he can win a title with a good bigman. Not to mention, as big a star as Wade is...he isnt LeBron. Bosh will ALWAYS be looked at as LeBrons Robin. He will be what Gasol is to Kobe. With Wade I think he will be seen as more of an equal. All I know is...if LeBron and Bosh join the Bulls, youre talkin TONS of pressure to win a title. No titles=huge failure.
Agreed. Bosh and Wade would be a great tandem. But if you pair any of the big name free agents with LeBron, they'll compete on sheer talent.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on June 28, 2010, 11:41:19 AM
you just do not win titles just by adding players

LOL, says the Lakers fan.
It's true. Just look at the Lakers in 2004.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on June 28, 2010, 11:42:03 AM
Bosh already denied these reports. And not only is the source is horrible, but even the QUOTE was left ambiguous. "I think its a done deal?" lol, right...

What a lot of people seem to be forgetting when considering these articles is that as of now, there's only one team that can actually sign two full max contracts, and that's Miami Heat (and we have to assume one of those two max contracts is going to Dwyane Wade). So any other team looking to sign two star players is going to have to hope that one of the stars in mind is willing to take a paycut and/or can't find any other place to sign. And athletes at that age are pretty goddamn greedy.
The Bulls pulled a trade on draft day and can now afford 2 max contacts.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: 7even on June 28, 2010, 12:07:33 PM
you just do not win titles just by adding players

LOL, says the Lakers fan.
It's true. Just look at the Lakers in 2004.

Well, look at the Celtics when they added Allen and traded for Garnett. Or the Lakers when they added Fisher and "traded" for Gasol. The 2004 Pistons also acquired Sheed.

If the Bulls simply put LeBron and Bosh on their roster, together with Rose, Deng and Noah, that shit is nasty. It is nasty. Dirk and Kidd would fit better with LeBron than Rose and Bosh do, though. But I think he doesn't understand this, plus Chicago is a bigger market than Dallas, and the Bulls roster is of course much younger than the Mavs roster.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: BOX5 the best poster on this site yell on June 28, 2010, 12:18:57 PM
all i know is if labron goes to the bulls,this would be a huge fail for the kniccs, i mean these fuccers been trying to be sorry for the last couple of years get under the cap all to get this guy,he wears ny hats, had ny color sneakers made,and then not go there, that would be the one team the cavs and they fans can laugh at hahaha yell
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 28, 2010, 01:29:36 PM
bosh has no post moves


lebron would be better going to NYK with David Lee and Amare and getting a Tony Parker

lol that wont happen. For one, even if the Spurs made a trade to the Knicks involving Parker...we would need David Lee at the LEAST in return. The rumors about Parker and the Knicks were involving Lee, and another player coming to the Spurs. In all honesty tho, its not gonna happen. Lee isnt someone I see the Spurs really wanting. Not to mention, they should be signing Splitter in the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: Chamillitary Click on June 28, 2010, 02:04:04 PM
you just do not win titles just by adding players

LOL, says the Lakers fan.
It's true. Just look at the Lakers in 2004.

Well, look at the Celtics when they added Allen and traded for Garnett. Or the Lakers when they added Fisher and "traded" for Gasol. The 2004 Pistons also acquired Sheed.

Exactly, the only reason the Lakers won the last two seasons & competed in the Finals the year before that was because they added players.

Like you said, same goes for the Celtics.

& adding two, super washed up, past prime HOF's; Payton & Malone, doesn't even come relatively close to adding two possible future HOF's in the prime of their careers lol.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: LooN3y on June 28, 2010, 02:56:54 PM
lebron isn't really gonna work with a pg who wants to control the play

also: bosh and lebron were just announced to sign with the lakers next season

^ that statement has about as much credibility as this "source"




yea but bosh is a different story hes a post player, bosh and perimeter super star  would thrive
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: PLANT on June 28, 2010, 03:00:11 PM
its funny when it comes down to it, it looks like Bosh is going to be the most sought after guy and it looks like he will determine a lot of whats going to happen.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on June 28, 2010, 07:38:32 PM
Yeah it was wade but it seems like bosh/james more likely than james/wade
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on June 29, 2010, 08:06:06 AM
you just do not win titles just by adding players

LOL, says the Lakers fan.
It's true. Just look at the Lakers in 2004.

Well, look at the Celtics when they added Allen and traded for Garnett. Or the Lakers when they added Fisher and "traded" for Gasol. The 2004 Pistons also acquired Sheed.

Exactly, the only reason the Lakers won the last two seasons & competed in the Finals the year before that was because they added players.

Like you said, same goes for the Celtics.

& adding two, super washed up, past prime HOF's; Payton & Malone, doesn't even come relatively close to adding two possible future HOF's in the prime of their careers lol.
All I'm saying is that simply adding players doesn't work. When the  Lakers added Gasol, he was a perfect fit for the triangle offense. He had a high basketball IQ, was a good passer, and could be effective with or without the ball. Fisher is as knowledgeable as anyone with the triganle offense. Gary Payton never really fitted into the offense and as a result, the Lakers weren't fully able to utilize his skills. Just look at who they lost to. The 2004 Pistons were a team composed of average to all-star players. Or look at the Spurs with Richard Jefferson. He didn't help much. Or the Cavs adding Shaq and Jaminson. Good players on paper, but couldn't make them a champion team. The Pistons added Ben Gordon and Charlie V. to a team that already had Hamiltion and Prince that they stunk. My point is you can't simply add players and expect them to win.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: westsiderider323 on June 29, 2010, 08:16:04 AM
honestly i think LBJ gon stay in cleveland i think he thinkin like i wanna win a title for my city for my state for my peoples and shit like that AND if he decides to do that opposite i think like 97% of ohio gon hate him for leaving
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: Chamillitary Click on June 29, 2010, 09:54:31 AM
honestly i think LBJ gon stay in cleveland i think he thinkin like i wanna win a title for my city for my state for my peoples and shit like that AND if he decides to do that opposite i think like 97% of ohio gon hate him for leaving

I don't know, brah.

I heard LeBron, Wade & Bosh met in Miami yesterday. :o
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: 7even on June 29, 2010, 09:56:47 AM
you just do not win titles just by adding players

LOL, says the Lakers fan.
It's true. Just look at the Lakers in 2004.

Well, look at the Celtics when they added Allen and traded for Garnett. Or the Lakers when they added Fisher and "traded" for Gasol. The 2004 Pistons also acquired Sheed.

Exactly, the only reason the Lakers won the last two seasons & competed in the Finals the year before that was because they added players.

Like you said, same goes for the Celtics.

& adding two, super washed up, past prime HOF's; Payton & Malone, doesn't even come relatively close to adding two possible future HOF's in the prime of their careers lol.
All I'm saying is that simply adding players doesn't work. When the  Lakers added Gasol, he was a perfect fit for the triangle offense. He had a high basketball IQ, was a good passer, and could be effective with or without the ball. Fisher is as knowledgeable as anyone with the triganle offense. Gary Payton never really fitted into the offense and as a result, the Lakers weren't fully able to utilize his skills. Just look at who they lost to. The 2004 Pistons were a team composed of average to all-star players. Or look at the Spurs with Richard Jefferson. He didn't help much. Or the Cavs adding Shaq and Jaminson. Good players on paper, but couldn't make them a champion team. The Pistons added Ben Gordon and Charlie V. to a team that already had Hamiltion and Prince that they stunk. My point is you can't simply add players and expect them to win.

It depends. You can't add good players with huge egos. But you can add great players. That always works. Bosh-LeBron-Wade would beat the Knicks with me playing.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: wcsoldier on June 29, 2010, 10:41:09 AM
Lebron and Wade is not going to happen , you're talking about two of the best 3 players in the league ... it would badly hurt both players legacy
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 29, 2010, 11:32:19 AM
you just do not win titles just by adding players

LOL, says the Lakers fan.
+1

where was LA before they stole Gasol away from Memphis?  oh yeah that's right KObe wanted to be traded
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on June 29, 2010, 02:37:46 PM

lol...he was jokin



you just do not win titles just by adding players

LOL, says the Lakers fan.
+1

where was LA before they stole Gasol away from Memphis?  oh yeah that's right KObe wanted to be traded
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: westsiderider323 on June 29, 2010, 02:44:06 PM
honestly i think LBJ gon stay in cleveland i think he thinkin like i wanna win a title for my city for my state for my peoples and shit like that AND if he decides to do that opposite i think like 97% of ohio gon hate him for leaving

I don't know, brah.

I heard LeBron, Wade & Bosh met in Miami yesterday. :o

there are so many scenarios that can happen ive lost track of alot of them
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on June 29, 2010, 03:33:42 PM
lol @ smith sayin its a done deal...who is he?
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: Mo Z. Dizzle on June 29, 2010, 03:38:36 PM
one thing seems certain - Bosh is leaving Toronto
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on June 29, 2010, 03:39:52 PM
he knows he cant win a title there without any help
1.wade
2.james

what other options would he take to where he could really win




one thing seems certain - Bosh is leaving Toronto
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: 7even on June 30, 2010, 09:29:16 AM
so will things actually get popping this week or will it take all month until we finally know who is going where?
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 30, 2010, 01:58:27 PM
Im really hopin the Spurs somehow make a push for Bosh. They havent been in the talks really. They have been lumped together with a group of team considering going after Amare. We dont have the cap space, but Ive heard Toronto might be thinking of a Sign and Trade with Bosh. We could send Parker to Toronto...throw in Blair or something.

That would give us a pretty formidable front court, moving Duncan to center maybe, with

C  Duncan
PF Bosh
SF Jefferson
SG Manu
PG Hill

I wouldnt mind having Manu come off the bench tho, and moving the rook Anderson into the starting lineup. With this lineup, we could use a solid outside shooter. Plus, Manu is great off the bench. The second unit would need someone who could create their own shot and Manu can bring the ball up the court. We would still have McDyess backing up Duncan, and Splitter (if we sign him, and I think he will be very solid...a starter if need be) backing up Bosh.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on June 30, 2010, 04:41:03 PM
Yeah ive heard and seen parkers name pop up...but can duncan still hold it down?
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: The Watcher on June 30, 2010, 05:26:55 PM
there's an article on nba.com saying LA might be doing a trade for bosh for bynum and odom

interesting
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on June 30, 2010, 08:28:49 PM
Good trade...why da fuck is odom gettin all that money? That would b dope
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on July 01, 2010, 11:04:11 AM
Yeah ive heard and seen parkers name pop up...but can duncan still hold it down?

Duncan is still very good, even with all these miles on him. But if we traded away Parker...it would be for a very solid player. Duncan wouldnt have to do it all. They still have Manu. And if Splitter (if he still comes over) turns into what I think he can, he might very well take over Duncans role on the team when Duncan finally retires.

Apparantely there was an article in the Toronto newspaper mentioning the possibility of a Sign and Trade for Bosh, involving Parker. It was just a hypothetical comment I believe though.

Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: 7even on July 01, 2010, 11:10:00 AM
^ I can't believe the contract extension the Spurs gave to Ginobili.

$11,854,584
   
$12,981,038
   
$14,107,492

LOOOOL

niggas old and washed up. front office fail.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on July 01, 2010, 11:29:34 AM
^ I can't believe the contract extension the Spurs gave to Ginobili.

$11,854,584
   
$12,981,038
   
$14,107,492

LOOOOL

niggas old and washed up. front office fail.

Not washed up. He has just been injured. Did you see what he was like once he was healthy this year? He was out of his mind. Didnt he win offensive player of the month or somethin right when he came back?  He would have gotten that money elsewwhere if we didnt lock him up. Plus you gotta remember, if we dont trade Paker...his salary comes off the books after this year...we should be well under the cap then.

What I cant believe is, Richard Jefferson just opted out of his contract. lol Wtf? He was gonna make 15 mil next year. Who the hell is gonna pay him that??
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on July 01, 2010, 12:02:41 PM
Damn 15 mil da fuck? Spurs got money 4 old players haha
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on July 01, 2010, 12:09:02 PM
Damn 15 mil da fuck? Spurs got money 4 old players haha

That was his contract when he was traded to the Spurs. Jefferson isnt considered an old player. But with his production last year, no one will give him 15 mil next year. His contract was going to expire after next year. So im sure he is looking for something long term. Less money per year, but more security with a 3 year deal or something.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: 7even on July 01, 2010, 12:15:57 PM
Chris Wallace's dumb ass just gave Rudy Gay a max contract. So I guess Richard Jefferson should also be able to get 30 mil over 3 years.

What pisses me off is how the Mavs want to sign Dirk as soon as possible, before they even meet with anyone. They should build a nice team before they re-sign him. If he re-signs with the current Dallas team, he ain't going nowhere in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on July 01, 2010, 12:25:21 PM
Chris Wallace's dumb ass just gave Rudy Gay a max contract. So I guess Richard Jefferson should also be able to get 30 mil over 3 years.

What pisses me off is how the Mavs want to sign Dirk as soon as possible, before they even meet with anyone. They should build a nice team before they re-sign him. If he re-signs with the current Dallas team, he ain't going nowhere in the playoffs.

Supposedly Dirk's in NY today  :-X

Im sure Dirk is staying in Dallas tho...this is all just to get more money out of Cuban. But unless he gets an offer he just cant refuse, I think he will be back in Dallas.

And yeah, Im sure somebody will offer up a 3 year deal to RJ along those lines. Teams are gonna be throwing cash around.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on July 01, 2010, 01:15:02 PM
Dirk came n from another country 2 meet up wit tha mavs?
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on July 01, 2010, 03:35:23 PM
Dirk came n from another country 2 meet up wit tha mavs?

based on his NBA career up to this point....it was a pretty good decision.
Title: Re: Report: Bosh, LeBron to Bulls a 'done deal'
Post by: M Dogg™ on July 12, 2010, 08:25:18 PM
Stephen A. Smith was proven more credible than this site.  :grumpy: