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Title: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: Lunatic on July 31, 2010, 04:36:56 PM
Over six years after the debut of Kanye West whose become 1 of the major forces in hip hop, I thought I'd revisit his debut album that started it all..

1. Intro - N/A
2. We Don't Care - 4.25/5. A great start to the album. Flows well with the intro. Very album opening appropriate.
3. Graduation Day - N/A. Comes in great placement after track 2. Beat/singing at the end is very dope.

4. All Falls Down - 5/5. Syleena Johnson is dope on here. Great single. Have always loved this record. Still gets constant play!
5. I'll Fly Away - N/A. Another great musically rich skit that leads perfectly into the next song.
6. Spaceship - 4.5/5. Love the beat/hook/concept. All three verses are dope.

7. Jesus Walks - 5/5. Probably my favorite joint on here. A classic hip-hop song. Glad it did SO well as a single. U just feel this shit came from the heart.
8. Never Let Me Down - 5/5 Dope beat and Jigga ripped it. "I'm home on these charts y'all visiting, back to claim pole position" lol. Kanye spit some powerful ass shit too.
9. Got 'Em High - 4.25/5 Beat is so tight. Of course Kanye/Talib/Common all smashed it too. Kanye flow especially on this beat was tight.

10. Workout Plan - N/A. Plays great into the next track as usual.
11. The New Workout Plan - 3/5. Never really felt this one. It's pretty funny though.
12. Slow Jamz - 5/5. Dope ass single. Really revived Twista's career too. Still bump this shit on the regular.

13. Breathe In, Breathe Out - 4/5. Beat is tight. Luda does good on the hook. Great album cut. Kind of gets lost in the shuffle but a dope listen.
14. School Spirit Skit 1 - N/A. Well played again.
15. School Spirit - 4/5. Beat is tight. Again, great concept following. Love the soulful voice in the background.
16. School Spirit Skit 2 - N/A. Good track follow up skit. Very suddle lol.
17. Lil Jimmy Skit - N/A. Very intelligent skit with a message yet again.

18. Two Words - 5/5. Real hip hop! Beat is banging. Mos Def killed it. Choir is dope too. Kanye spazzed out, maybe his best verse on the album. Freeway was nice too.
19. Through the Wire - 5/5. My 2nd favorite track on here. Remember the first time I heard this was seeing the video on BET and was like woah, this is dope! Classic.
20. Family Business - 4/5. Beat is tight. Concept is straight. Dude singin hook fits it perfectly. Also this is the perfect spot on the album for a track like this.

21. Last Call - 4/5. Beat is tight. Another great cool, good closer. Usually don't like tracks this long though. Everything about this song is dope though.

Overall: 9/10

Whether you think he's an asshole or not, you can't deny how dope this guy is, and how fuckin dope this debut album was. A modern day hip hop classic. With a concept that flows all the way throughout and all. I think the concept is actually it's biggest accomplishment. It manages to stay on topic without getting boring either.

21 songs long, 14 actual songs and 7 skits well placed all throughout. Usually hate skits but they work here. And if they still not ya thing and u just bump the 14 tracks straight, shit is still a classic. Good music all the way throughout.

Gotta love it! Album ain't overrated at all.

Now I might have to revisit Late Registration & Graduation..
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on July 31, 2010, 04:39:33 PM
It's a classic.  I think Two Words my personal fav, but every song on here dope.  Through the wire, jesus walks, All falls down, never let me down....
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: The Watcher on July 31, 2010, 05:26:12 PM
too many damn skits on this album
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: Lunatic on July 31, 2010, 05:27:56 PM
too many damn skits on this album
Really? 7 is a lot but the skits work. And as I said, if the skits are THAT much of a problem, skip them, just bump the 14 actual tracks (which is enough) and u still have a classic album.
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: m-b on July 31, 2010, 05:29:55 PM
I think that Jesus Walks is arguably his best track to date.
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: GangstaBoogy on July 31, 2010, 05:30:30 PM
I agree the skits killed it for me. This came out back when I was still in high school with a portable cd player so I hate skipping every other track.

I always wished he would've re-released it without the skits. "Never Let Me Down", "Jesus Walks", and "2 Words" = OMG amazingly dope!
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 31, 2010, 05:57:09 PM
LOL, I was just thinking eariler of making a thread for "Graduation", which is probably my favorite Kanye album.

College Dropout is dope.

"Through The Wire" is my favorite song, but all in all, I kinda feel this album is overrated. Maybe just because it isn't my favorite Kanye album, but Kanye was real nice throughout this.

"Late Regisration" was so good too, I hope he keeps up his trend of great Hip Hop albums for his next one. 8)
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: Skeptic on July 31, 2010, 06:09:10 PM
just listened to this the other day, classic fo sho!!!

theres not one song on it I don't like
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: Sir Petey on July 31, 2010, 07:28:31 PM
good album but probably my least fave. out of his discography.

i dont count 808 and heartbreak.
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on July 31, 2010, 09:05:20 PM
A sick album. Definitely one of the classics of the 2000s

Am I the only one who thinks Freeway was absolutely useless on Two Words?
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: Sir Petey on July 31, 2010, 09:17:34 PM
i agree@ 2 words

this album was alot of cats intro to hip hop.
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: Action! on July 31, 2010, 10:00:30 PM
It's a dope album.  I don't bump it much today but I respect it for shifting the focus back on Chicago.  Ye's done a lot for other MC's like Common & Consequence. 

I enjoy Late Registration the most but it was probably a track or two too long.

Graduation was dope but seem incomplete.

808s was ill. 
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: Sir Petey on July 31, 2010, 10:32:52 PM
It's a dope album.  I don't bump it much today but I respect it for shifting the focus back on Chicago.  Ye's done a lot for other MC's like Common & Consequence. 

I enjoy Late Registration the most but it was probably a track or two too long.

Graduation was dope but seem incomplete.

808s was ill. 

agreed on all that shit...except i dont share your level of enthusiasm for 808s...i like it but not that much.
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 31, 2010, 11:13:50 PM
808's wasn't intended to be Hip Hop & it wasn't. So if you tell yourself even though it's Kanye, but not Hip Hop & try to enjoy it for what it is, it's actually pretty dope.
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: LodiDodi on July 31, 2010, 11:18:13 PM
The two songs I could have done without:

-New Workout Plan.............sure it's original and somewhat creative, but I can count on one hand the number of times I've ever listened to it without hitting fast forward/  Just too cheesy for my tastes, and doesn't fit well with the rest of the album.

-Breathe In Breathe Out.............so how does a lyrically-rich collabo between Kanye and Luda not meet expectations?  It's the horn riff/sample on the beat.  I don't know, something about it.  Just sounds dull and annoying. Anti-climactic.  Whenever I hear that three-note horn riff I cringe.  Thankfully, 9th Wonder remixed it years later on one of his mixtapes, so it sounds hundreds of times better.



And if you recall, there was a pre-release bootleg floating around the net that had some choice cuts which missed the final product (sample clearances, bootlegging, label decisions, whatever).  And that's why I added a few to my custom copy. So......my classic-status version of College Dropout is like this:

1. Intro - N/A
2. We Don't Care
3. Graduation Day
4. All Falls Down
5. I'll Fly Away
6. Spaceship
7. Jesus Walks
8. Never Let Me Down
9. Got 'Em High
10. Keep The Receipt feat. Ol Dirty Bastard
11. I Need To Know
12. Slow Jamz
13. School Spirit Skit 1
14. School Spirit
15. School Spirit Skit 2
16. Lil Jimmy Skit
17. Two Words
18. Through the Wire
19. My Way
20. Family Business
21. Last Call
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on July 31, 2010, 11:22:26 PM
I think that Jesus Walks is arguably his best track to date.

Yup.  Jesus Walks, musically, coulda been on Late Registration.
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: Blood$ on July 31, 2010, 11:22:35 PM
man this album brings back too many memories just thinking about it... definitely a classic, at least for me personally

my favorite songs that I pretty much considered classics were "We Don't Care", "All Falls Down", "Spaceship" (this being my favorite), "Jesus Walks", "Never Let Me Down", "Get Em High", "Slow Jamz", and "Through The Wire"  8)
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: Action! on July 31, 2010, 11:26:52 PM
also, if this is a classic album i think it reflects on kanye's ability to align himself with a great roster of talent like dr.dre has done before him.   Ye has admitted post the release of album but before late registration to not giving full production credit when due and has since changed his tactics (there's been producers who accused him of not giving proper credit).  A lot of the songs reflect ghost writers rather than Ye (consequence, common, rhymefest).  Plus, Ye's flow and vocals were pretty amateur.  With all that said Kanye is a great leader with much enthusiasm, heart, and ability to reflect this through his recordings.

edit: basically, what dr.dre was to the west coast and what RZA or Premier was to the east coast Kanye West is to the mid-west.

double edit: but unlike some of them he has tried to be more hands on as a MC.  taking reign of writing his own lyrics which he proudshimself on Graduation and of his production (from late registration tinkering of jon brion's compositions to the 808s style)

I think 808s reflects kanye the most, despite the obvious influenced and possibly ghostwritten or edited verse by mr.hudson/cudi.  That's to say 808s was the album he had done mostly everything on without outside producers/influences/etc.
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: Meho on August 01, 2010, 03:32:32 AM
Classic for me. Could've done without the skits but that's it. Kanye got an impressive discography (808's included). Can't wait for the new album, you just know you're not gonna get some fast food project.
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: 13th Duke on August 01, 2010, 05:13:26 AM
An absolute classic. Just a shame he hasn't dropped anything decent since Late Registration.
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: Portugoal on August 01, 2010, 05:42:58 AM
Apart from the song with Ludacris (which is plain awful) every single song is 4.5/5 or 5/5 to me. Classic album. Late Registration was even better.
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on August 01, 2010, 06:26:12 AM
An absolute classic. Just a shame he hasn't dropped anything decent since Late Registration.
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: Invincible on August 01, 2010, 06:34:29 AM
For me, All Falls Down and Spaceship ruin it for me. The rest is classic shit.
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: virtuoso on August 01, 2010, 06:48:09 AM

A few bland songs on here, but overall very good album
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: V2DHeart on August 03, 2010, 12:46:11 PM
Classic IMO. I bought this after seeing the "Through The Wire" video, and I bumped it fully when I was out in the car at weekend nights - for pretty much a good number of weeks, which was rare... It revivied my interest in Hip Hop again. It had Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Common, John Legend, Jamie Foxx - they all became, or looked like a click.

It was refreshing, to see an album of new mainstream sound, that was actually listenable and enjoyable, from an artist/producer/song writer - The videos also showed Kanye's insecurities on the camera, IE: too shy to look directly in or have his face shown too much or shown at all, and that was a fantastic characteristic to have a the person behind the album, because Hip Hop was pretty much full of big heads in love with themselves and their inflated ego's. Look at All Falls Down video for example. WHo would have known that he himself would grow into such an arrogant prat of a man

But This album was and is a classic, and I refrain from listening to it only because it reminds me of a period in my life that I loved. (I don't like to listen to certain music if I've bumped it too much at a certain time period)
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: Lunatic on August 03, 2010, 01:59:32 PM
10. Keep The Receipt feat. Ol Dirty Bastard
11. I Need To Know
19. My Way
Never heard these..Seems to be the only 3 tracks that missed the cut. Can U hook them up?
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: LodiDodi on August 07, 2010, 11:06:09 AM
10. Keep The Receipt feat. Ol Dirty Bastard
11. I Need To Know
19. My Way
Never heard these..Seems to be the only 3 tracks that missed the cut. Can U hook them up?
Yeah fo sho.  Gotta take care of some things right now but I'll hook them up a lil later today

Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: Lunatic on August 07, 2010, 11:15:12 AM
10. Keep The Receipt feat. Ol Dirty Bastard
11. I Need To Know
19. My Way
Never heard these..Seems to be the only 3 tracks that missed the cut. Can U hook them up?
Yeah fo sho.  Gotta take care of some things right now but I'll hook them up a lil later today


Preciated
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: LodiDodi on August 07, 2010, 04:56:57 PM
10. Keep The Receipt feat. Ol Dirty Bastard
11. I Need To Know
19. My Way
Never heard these..Seems to be the only 3 tracks that missed the cut. Can U hook them up?
Yeah fo sho.  Gotta take care of some things right now but I'll hook them up a lil later today


Preciated

Kanye West - I Need To Know.mp3 - 5.4 Mb (http://usershare.net/4mue718qi6hb)

Kanye West - My Way.mp3 - 4.7 Mb (http://usershare.net/q7g01ykc7gu0)

Kanye West - Keep The Receipt feat. Ol Dirty Bastard.mp3 - 4.7 Mb (http://usershare.net/e7qdyx3iezro)


and a lil bonus....original version of All Falls Down with the Lauryn Hill vocal sample:
Kanye West - All Falls Down (Original).mp3 - 4.4 Mb (http://usershare.net/9uqfz3zwvkil)
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: Lunatic on August 07, 2010, 05:29:42 PM
^ +1  bro.

I Need to Know is decent. Glad it was cut though.

I like My Way better but still glad it was cut. Not sure it would fit in anywhere or is good enough to replace any track. Love the hook though.

Keep the Receipt is interesting, didn't know Kanye did a record with ODB. This shit is pretty hot! thanks.

Thanks for the bonus, never knew such a track existed. It's a dope idea (Lauryn Hill) but I like the final version with Syleena Johnson better.
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: Back2Back on August 07, 2010, 05:56:40 PM
Love this album, a true classic
Title: Re: Revisiting Kanye West "The College Dropout"...
Post by: LodiDodi on August 07, 2010, 10:45:19 PM
^ +1  bro.

I Need to Know is decent. Glad it was cut though.

I like My Way better but still glad it was cut. Not sure it would fit in anywhere or is good enough to replace any track. Love the hook though.

Keep the Receipt is interesting, didn't know Kanye did a record with ODB. This shit is pretty hot! thanks.

Thanks for the bonus, never knew such a track existed. It's a dope idea (Lauryn Hill) but I like the final version with Syleena Johnson better.

no doubt.  Lauryn Hill's vocals are a straight up sample.  Syleena Johnson just re-sang the sample, but you're right about it being better.

Yeah that Keep The Receipt was one of my favorites from the pre-release, I was pretty bummed when it got left off.