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Title: Lady Gaga
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on August 03, 2010, 07:08:12 PM
Whats the story with this white girl? She be getting MAD attention, everyone saying she like throwback pop yet mad talented and shit, she be gettin nominated for mad awards, making crazy money and selling real good too and she only new.

Now i aint really heard any of her shit past two joints but is she dope? lol...

I heard some weird ass joint 'romaaa gaagagaaa' or someshit like that, was terrible and the other joint telephone with beyonce which is big and she fully outshone beyonce on that joint no arguements about it. Not that outshining beyonce on a joint is difficult considering her limited talent but with age, beyonce has come to kinda accept her talent or lack of it and knows how to make the most of what she has now...abit like jigga imo but a newcomer like gaga to fully outshine beyonce is still impressive.

And now there were reports that she was going to do the hook for the under pressure joint that leaked off detox...so whats the story with her?

Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 03, 2010, 07:09:15 PM
Hella dope, I bump her shit & I'm proud. 8)
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: westsiderider323 on August 03, 2010, 07:10:27 PM
im still confused bout her? gender  ???
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 03, 2010, 07:12:15 PM
im still confused bout her? gender  ???

She's a woman lol.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: GangstaBoogy on August 03, 2010, 07:16:33 PM
She makes great commecrial music. The new Gwen Stefani in my opinion.

"Just Dance" was alright. But when she dropped that "Poker Face" shit I was like  :o "Paparazzi" was ehh. She picked back up with "Love Game"

Then she dropped basically like a pt2 to her album with "Telephone" f/ Beyonce - that shit blew up bigger than Poker Face. Same with "Bad Romance". Even "Alejandro" is catchy as fuck. She's an amazing writer and I believe she's only 24. Can't hate her. Although I'm predicting everyone on here will say they don't listen to her music cuz we know niggas on here are too gangsta for that.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Al Bundy on August 03, 2010, 07:33:00 PM
Hella dope, I bump her shit & I'm proud. 8)

 :grumpy:
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 03, 2010, 07:37:00 PM
Lady Gaga is dope, she has her own style and she ain't follow the more typical path of a mainstream artist.

It's not against the rules to enjoy some commercial artists, because believe it or not, some actually earn their fame with true artistic ability, and I think Gaga is one of them.


Co-sign her.

ALSO: Her music videos are just way too gangsta to overlook, go youtube some.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: white Boy on August 03, 2010, 08:13:18 PM
i dont listen to that kind of music, but i am not a hater, i read her rolling stones interview.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: GangstaBoogy on August 03, 2010, 09:08:21 PM
Lady Gaga is dope, she has her own style and she ain't follow the more typical path of a mainstream artist.

It's not against the rules to enjoy some commercial artists, because believe it or not, some actually earn their fame with true artistic ability, and I think Gaga is one of them.


Co-sign her.

ALSO: Her music videos are just way too gangsta to overlook, go youtube some.

Aye...wtf was the Alejandro video all about?!
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 03, 2010, 09:11:16 PM
Lady Gaga is dope, she has her own style and she ain't follow the more typical path of a mainstream artist.

It's not against the rules to enjoy some commercial artists, because believe it or not, some actually earn their fame with true artistic ability, and I think Gaga is one of them.


Co-sign her.

ALSO: Her music videos are just way too gangsta to overlook, go youtube some.

Aye...wtf was the Alejandro video all about?!

Ahahah, that, I could not tell you! 
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 03, 2010, 09:39:38 PM
Yeah, she really does go in for her music videos. But it's something I respect; she puts a lot into her product & her results have been as big as anyone imaginable.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on August 03, 2010, 09:51:23 PM
Just the latest pop singer. You either like that shit or you don't.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: MrJas on August 03, 2010, 10:41:33 PM
Just the latest pop singer. You either like that shit or you don't.

x2
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Bananas on August 04, 2010, 12:13:22 AM
I like Red One, who produced a couple of her tracks.
As an artist I think she's a gimmick with her image but does have a good voice. Unfortunately there's no way she could use her voice to do something underground and truly artsy like you neosoul fags want, so she does her own thing. It's easy to hate, but nonetheless she does make catchy music, however retarded. 
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Fraxxx on August 04, 2010, 12:39:15 AM
You gotta put it into context. She is definately one of the most creative and talented artists... in the mainstream pop biz.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: SCREWFACE on August 04, 2010, 02:26:32 AM
lady gaga is fuckin whack and its a shame to see more people duped by her marketing. shes marketed as a "smart popstar", so even if you look down on pop music and say its whack then you can still admit you like her and not feel lame because shes "different" and "writes her own songs"

personally i think its all a load of shit. i mean i like pop artists like the dream, beyonce etc. because i think they have great songs. lady gaga is cheap fuckin euro-pop for the american masses (and trust me on this cause growing up in europe this is just normal pop music). her music is nothing special at all, its all image, and people bought it.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 04, 2010, 02:43:22 AM
lady gaga is fuckin whack and its a shame to see more people duped by her marketing. shes marketed as a "smart popstar", so even if you look down on pop music and say its whack then you can still admit you like her and not feel lame because shes "different" and "writes her own songs"

personally i think its all a load of shit. i mean i like pop artists like the dream, beyonce etc. because i think they have great songs. lady gaga is cheap fuckin euro-pop for the american masses (and trust me on this cause growing up in europe this is just normal pop music). her music is nothing special at all, its all image, and people bought it.

LOL The Dream?  Are you serious?  He makes the most generic songs I've ever heard.  And if you wanna talk about beats, again seriously... The Dream??  You been brainwashed by this American production?  Beyonce and Dream are more RnB tho so it's a moot point.

If you don't recognize how Gaga got talent, you ain't hear NEARLY enough artists in the "Pop" genre.  I didn't even hear Gaga's album till this year, and I immediately liked it.  How did her marketing scheme work on me when I ain't even know about it?

Madonna had skill, Britney had skill...  Gaga got skill.    As much as you like to believe every single one of these artists are contrived and aren't real musicians, it's not true..  If you don't feel Pop at all tho, you gonna think all of those artists is whack anyways...
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: SCREWFACE on August 04, 2010, 02:53:49 AM
lady gaga is fuckin whack and its a shame to see more people duped by her marketing. shes marketed as a "smart popstar", so even if you look down on pop music and say its whack then you can still admit you like her and not feel lame because shes "different" and "writes her own songs"

personally i think its all a load of shit. i mean i like pop artists like the dream, beyonce etc. because i think they have great songs. lady gaga is cheap fuckin euro-pop for the american masses (and trust me on this cause growing up in europe this is just normal pop music). her music is nothing special at all, its all image, and people bought it.

LOL The Dream?  Are you serious?  He makes the most generic songs I've ever heard.  And if you wanna talk about beats, again seriously... The Dream??  You been brainwashed by this American production?  Beyonce and Dream are more RnB tho so it's a moot point.

If you don't recognize how Gaga got talent, you ain't hear NEARLY enough artists in the "Pop" genre.  I didn't even hear Gaga's album till this year, and I immediately liked it.  How did her marketing scheme work on me when I ain't even know about it?

Madonna had skill, Britney had skill...  Gaga got skill.    As much as you like to believe every single one of these artists are contrived and aren't real musicians, it's not true..  If you don't feel Pop at all tho, you gonna think all of those artists is whack anyways...

look, from a song writing perspective the dream is incredible and far from generic. i mean HE WROTE SINGLE LADIES FOR FUCKS SAKE. like.... i dont even understand how anyone can deny his hitmaking skills, and to be honest im not even interested if they want to deny it, cause its a pointless argument. dude has written some of the biggest hits of the past 5 years.

anyway, fuck that, this is my beef with lady gaga.. you always hear the same fuckin buzzwords with her like "talented" "song writer" "musician". she has been marketed as more than your average pop star, and its worked. MOST good pop artists co-write their own songs (lady gaga co-writes, dont let the fact she plays piano fool you), MOST good pop artists do all the shit she does, but because shes been hyped up to be a real musician in a pop stars clothing who is CRAAAAAAAZY and eccentric, poeple get it twisted. im not saying you have been duped by her marketing, im simply saying that  a) this is how she has been marketed and b) this is how people perceive her (the marketing was successful in building a specific public image)

now look im not hating on her, her music is average pop music to me and i have no beef with that, hell even one of her songs i like, but its the fans. its dumb how people make her out to be something special, new, talented, whatever. who fuckin cares, shes a pop star plain and simple and i think all the extra attention she gets is is purely based on a combination of image and clever marketing.

Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: SCREWFACE on August 04, 2010, 02:57:31 AM
Beyonce and Dream are more RnB tho so it's a moot point.

i dont know if youd like to discuss this point further but im interested as to how you classify and perceive the differences between rnb and pop music, especially since modern pop music as we know it IS rnb dominated, to the point were i dont see the line.

 is lady gaga stricly pop because she is white and used 90s euro-pop as a basis for her music?
or are we drawing a line and saying beyonce is not pop because she is black + american?

Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 04, 2010, 03:04:58 AM
Before I read the rest of your posts.  Let's discuss the first point I've read.

Show me a link where Gaga is being marketed as more than the average pop star.

I'm pretty sure if you on a big label and your ppl ain't hyping you up to be the best artist out they ain't doing they job.

But still I haven't seen any, that just shows how much I give a fuck about marketing.

So let's take it from there..
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 04, 2010, 03:06:47 AM
And if you wanna discuss marketing further, The Dream's big marketing ploy is being a writer for famous artists, which is one of the points you listed for liking him...

Duh...... 

Single Ladies was "If you like it then you shoulda put a ring on it"...  That is no different than some shit Gaga would say and you know it.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: SCREWFACE on August 04, 2010, 03:50:04 AM
And if you wanna discuss marketing further, The Dream's big marketing ploy is being a writer for famous artists, which is one of the points you listed for liking him...

Duh...... 

Single Ladies was "If you like it then you shoulda put a ring on it"...  That is no different than some shit Gaga would say and you know it.

right you got me confused on this one, lady gaga might have a lyric similar to one the the dream would write. ok. but whats your point? im not hating on gagas music, i dont somehow feel that i have to dislike anything similar to her. i think in the pop spectrum is quite realistic to imagine any female star singing those lyrics. i dont get what you man though and what you are getting at.

and yes i like the dream because he is a good songwriter, but why are we even discussing this?  its wrong to say such  a thing as it being a "marketing ploy". yes they might use that to market him, but its not a ploy, he really did have a great success writing hits for other artsists! its a selling point, not a ploy!

anyway, im not going to find you a link to a page were she is being marketed as a more than average pop star, its everywhere! dont you get the concept of PR? every single interview she does, every photoshoot, all contributes towards the image, no.... THE PRODUCT and THE BRAND of lady gaga. she recently joined up with polaroid to do something. now most pop stars get a deal with pepsi, coke etc, but this is one fine example as how the lady gaga brand is represented as a classier, more intelligent brand. this has nothing to do with her music i am talking about her image, and brand, if you cant see a HUGE difference between lady gagas image and other pop stars then i cant help you. but that is my whole point, this different image she has unfortunately causes her music to be assumed as different, when it is just normal pop music. i mean cmon surely you have heard people  saying all this crap like her music is different, she has "real" talent, blah blah blah ?
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 04, 2010, 04:13:26 AM
You not listening to me B.  I'm saying that whatever marketing she has, it has no effect on me.  So for you to come at me saying that it was the marketing that made me like her and not the music itself is ludicrous.

That's all I'm saying.

Sometimes the artist is good, sometimes it's marketing.  In this case, it's both.  And for me, it was the music that made me like her.  I could give two shits if she on Koch and only got one music video if she still put out that same CD I'ma bump her shit.

AND I ain't never read any interviews of her or googled no photoshoots so fuck outta here with that theory.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: SCREWFACE on August 04, 2010, 04:31:27 AM
You not listening to me B.  I'm saying that whatever marketing she has, it has no effect on me.  So for you to come at me saying that it was the marketing that made me like her and not the music itself is ludicrous.

That's all I'm saying.

Sometimes the artist is good, sometimes it's marketing.  In this case, it's both.  And for me, it was the music that made me like her.  I could give two shits if she on Koch and only got one music video if she still put out that same CD I'ma bump her shit.

AND I ain't never read any interviews of her or googled no photoshoots so fuck outta here with that theory.

dude like i already said im not saying YOU specifically have been duped by marketing, you've made that clear. im just throwing it out there because i think its an overlooked and  interesting discussion.  however, im curious about when you say "some actually earn their fame with true artistic ability" when referring to lady gaga. what i wanna know is how you have come to this opinion of her, just from listening to her music, how can you tell she has earned it through artistic ability over some other random pop star? everyone has this opinion of gaga (through good PR work or not) so im very interested to hear from someone who has this opinion that didnt get sweeped up in the marketing/PR side of things.  what gives lady gagas music higher artistic value than other pop music? im very confused about this, as once you take away the artistic music videos and fashion, were is the high-art then? cause i dont hear it in the music.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 04, 2010, 04:39:20 AM
You not listening to me B.  I'm saying that whatever marketing she has, it has no effect on me.  So for you to come at me saying that it was the marketing that made me like her and not the music itself is ludicrous.

That's all I'm saying.

Sometimes the artist is good, sometimes it's marketing.  In this case, it's both.  And for me, it was the music that made me like her.  I could give two shits if she on Koch and only got one music video if she still put out that same CD I'ma bump her shit.

AND I ain't never read any interviews of her or googled no photoshoots so fuck outta here with that theory.

dude like i already said im not saying YOU specifically have been duped by marketing, you've made that clear. im just throwing it out there because i think its an overlooked and  interesting discussion.  however, im curious about when you say "some actually earn their fame with true artistic ability" when referring to lady gaga. what i wanna know is how you have come to this opinion of her, just from listening to her music, how can you tell she has earned it through artistic ability over some other random pop star? everyone has this opinion of gaga (through good PR work or not) so im very interested to hear from someone who has this opinion that didnt get sweeped up in the marketing/PR side of things.  what gives lady gagas music higher artistic value than other pop music? im very confused about this, as once you take away the artistic music videos and fashion, were is the high-art then? cause i dont hear it in the music.

I dunno alot of her songs are just hype.  Her production is a big part of it, I'll admit.  But she makes solid songs outta them muthafuckas to me.   I'm a seasoned listener and my ears are pretty good for spotting that typa shit.  Alotta her lyrics are quite ambigious, which plays into good song writing, having cross-over appeal to guys etc.  If you give me 30 bitches in the pop game now I'ma pick Gaga top 3. 

You listen to the music over and over again for years and you really notice when a good artist comes along in the genre.  Trust me.  I'm sure you can do it with Hip-Hop.  It's just the producer niche you get from being exposed to so much music.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 04, 2010, 04:41:22 AM
You think if you give Katie Perry or CURRENT Christina Aguilera or CURRENT Britney Spears those beats, they gonna come up with some peculiar but catchy shit like Gaga does?  Fuck no.  There is some artistry hidden in her music.

Matter of fact: If you listen to Christina's last album, she copping Gaga's whole style, and it sounds horrible.  And Christina is a credible pop artist, so for her to not be upto par with Gaga says something.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: V2DHeart on August 04, 2010, 05:40:03 AM
You think if you give Katie Perry or CURRENT Christina Aguilera or CURRENT Britney Spears those beats, they gonna come up with some peculiar but catchy shit like Gaga does?  Fuck no.  There is some artistry hidden in her music.

Matter of fact: If you listen to Christina's last album, she copping Gaga's whole style, and it sounds horrible.  And Christina is a credible pop artist, so for her to not be upto par with Gaga says something.

Very good point.

I will add my 2 cents later
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on August 04, 2010, 05:53:25 AM
She makes great commecrial music. The new Gwen Stefani in my opinion.

"Just Dance" was alright. But when she dropped that "Poker Face" shit I was like  :o "Paparazzi" was ehh. She picked back up with "Love Game"

Then she dropped basically like a pt2 to her album with "Telephone" f/ Beyonce - that shit blew up bigger than Poker Face. Same with "Bad Romance". Even "Alejandro" is catchy as fuck. She's an amazing writer and I believe she's only 24. Can't hate her. Although I'm predicting everyone on here will say they don't listen to her music cuz we know niggas on here are too gangsta for that.

Naw man, I admit I listen to stuff like Cindy Lauper, Phil Collins, Sade, Alicia Keys.   And I agree that Lady Gaga is talented as hell and I've seen her in interviews and she sounds very intelligent, but to me her music is STYLE over SUBSTANCE.  It's not anything worth listening to, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: SCREWFACE on August 04, 2010, 05:55:50 AM
You listen to the music over and over again for years and you really notice when a good artist comes along in the genre.  Trust me.  I'm sure you can do it with Hip-Hop.  It's just the producer niche you get from being exposed to so much music.


you are not the only one with a producer niche here  ;D i listen to a lot of non-hip-hop too and i like to analyse these things too. this has actually been a really good discussion, its good to get another viewpoint on the whole gaga phenomenon. one thing i find intersting from a musical standpoint the way gaga has become so popular worldwide with music very rooted in euro-tradition. i think with a little more american contemporary influence on the production, along (of course) with her image, helped her to have the success she had. in my opinion she also borrows heavily from kate bush too and i think this appeals to a slightly older generation.

Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on August 04, 2010, 06:03:44 AM
She makes great commecrial music. The new Gwen Stefani in my opinion.

"Just Dance" was alright. But when she dropped that "Poker Face" shit I was like  :o "Paparazzi" was ehh. She picked back up with "Love Game"

Then she dropped basically like a pt2 to her album with "Telephone" f/ Beyonce - that shit blew up bigger than Poker Face. Same with "Bad Romance". Even "Alejandro" is catchy as fuck. She's an amazing writer and I believe she's only 24. Can't hate her. Although I'm predicting everyone on here will say they don't listen to her music cuz we know niggas on here are too gangsta for that.

Naw man, I admit I listen to stuff like Cindy Lauper, Phil Collins, Sade, Alicia Keys.   And I agree that Lady Gaga is talented as hell and I've seen her in interviews and she sounds very intelligent, but to me her music is STYLE over SUBSTANCE.  It's not anything worth listening to, in my opinion.


i agree with that style over substance comment 100%...shes very obviously talented, and i can see why shes become this massive phenomenon, but its just not my cup of tea
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Matty on August 04, 2010, 06:22:28 AM
pop music has always been about style over substance. don't really listen to her stuff, but gaga is definitely doing her/his thing with the songwriting etc. she's dropped quite a few massive hits. i would say it's more than just promotion or production.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on August 04, 2010, 06:23:54 AM
pop music has always been about style over substance. don't really listen to her stuff, but gaga is definitely doing her/his thing with the songwriting etc. she's dropped quite a few massive hits. i would say it's more than just promotion or production.

lol
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: virtuoso on August 04, 2010, 08:14:01 AM

What's Alejandro about? the rejection of god as is seen through the heart with barbed wire wrapped in it, to the embracing of lucifer, as is shown through her becoming a preistess wearing the inverted symbols, the all eye seeing bullshit, the rubbing it in your faces, with the imagery of the other people attached to strings, the carrying of the hexagram on the back of one of the people at the beginning, i guess another symbol of enslavement and of course the ongoing imagery of the police state takeover as mayhem and violence ensues. Now for anyone that disagrees with that, then watch the video again, and then give me your take on it and I will be happy to see what you think about it.

However the worshipping of satan in hollywood is no big secret, they constantly push the symbolism, the symbolism for which Manley P Hall had written about extensively.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on August 04, 2010, 08:56:36 AM
pop music has always been about style over substance.

Tell that to Phil Collins!
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: K.Dub on August 04, 2010, 09:12:22 AM
Can't stand her
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Dre-Day on August 04, 2010, 09:46:33 AM
i have to respect that some like the music, but i think it's really annoying.

i really hope she fades away soon
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on August 04, 2010, 09:48:44 AM

What's Alejandro about? the rejection of god as is seen through the heart with barbed wire wrapped in it, to the embracing of lucifer, as is shown through her becoming a preistess wearing the inverted symbols, the all eye seeing bullshit, the rubbing it in your faces, with the imagery of the other people attached to strings, the carrying of the hexagram on the back of one of the people at the beginning, i guess another symbol of enslavement and of course the ongoing imagery of the police state takeover as mayhem and violence ensues. Now for anyone that disagrees with that, then watch the video again, and then give me your take on it and I will be happy to see what you think about it.

However the worshipping of satan in hollywood is no big secret, they constantly push the symbolism, the symbolism for which Manley P Hall had written about extensively.

go away
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: virtuoso on August 04, 2010, 10:00:12 AM

The matter of what the hell the video was about was raised and so I am more than entitled to express my take on it, your little comment about going away isn't going to change that. If you are not interested in my post fine, ignore it.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on August 04, 2010, 10:05:49 AM

The matter of what the hell the video was about was raised and so I am more than entitled to express my take on it, your little comment about going away isn't going to change that. If you are not interested in my post fine, ignore it.

No one asked what any video was about. Go back to your hole in ToT
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: virtuoso on August 04, 2010, 10:10:16 AM

Oh yes they did

Aye...wtf was the Alejandro video all about?!

Look on page 1
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 04, 2010, 12:25:44 PM
I don't know what the video was about, but I heard Alejandro was about an abusive boyfriend.

& as for the people saying "style over substance", I can agree it could be moreso style than the substance; but you should listen to her songs.

Check; Paparazzi, Bad Romance, Alejandro, Speechless, So Happy I Could Die. She has songs that actually have some substance, they just have catchy, mainstream beats. She's selling the beat, but she's getting a point across in the song. It's not all just "la, la, la, lets get drunk in the club & fuck", like other pop artists.

Sure, she has songs like that, but it's not her whole act.

She is probably the biggest thing in music since Tupac lol.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: virtuoso on August 04, 2010, 12:32:33 PM
I don't know what the video was about, but I heard Alejandro was about an abusive boyfriend.

& as for the people saying "style over substance", I can agree it could be moreso style than the substance; but you should listen to her songs.

Check; Paparazzi, Bad Romance, Alejandro, Speechless, So Happy I Could Die. She has songs that actually have some substance, they just have catchy, mainstream beats. She's selling the beat, but she's getting a point across in the song. It's not all just "la, la, la, lets get drunk in the club & fuck", like other pop artists.

Sure, she has songs like that, but it's not her whole act.

She is probably the biggest thing in music since Tupac lol.

I hear what you are saying, but when you do see the video, you will see it depicts something completely different to the notion of breaking up with a boyfriend.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: GangstaBoogy on August 04, 2010, 12:49:53 PM
Matter of fact: If you listen to Christina's last album, she copping Gaga's whole style, and it sounds horrible.  And Christina is a credible pop artist, so for her to not be upto par with Gaga says something.

I haven't heard the album but I did see the video for one of her singles and that shit was a Gaga ripoff if I've ever seen one. Plus she made some slick comments about here referring to her as "the new girl" so theres definitely some jealousy there.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: BOX5 the best poster on this site yell on August 04, 2010, 02:54:25 PM
a fake ass grace jones,and stole the rest of her style from some other white lady who has done that, it's all about getting the right people behind ya, props to akon tho cause he get's a checc (at least for now),
lady gaga strip'n! please, ma don't bother
since you got something that could make you a fatha (father)
yell
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on August 04, 2010, 03:04:04 PM
insane remix,i like it better than the original http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR9EEEZaQLI (bad romance Chew fu Remix)
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 04, 2010, 03:49:37 PM
Let's add some more fuel here....

Who thinks making a good pop record is just as hard as making a good hip-hop record?
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Matty on August 04, 2010, 04:37:13 PM
Let's add some more fuel here....

Who thinks making a good pop record is just as hard as making a good hip-hop record?

by my standards i would have to say harder. over an equivalent timeframe, there are far more good hip-hop records than pop. hip-hop is generally done well by certain artists. good pop music is more a spontaneous event than a particular movement. guess what i am trying to say is that there is a formula for both, but great pop music is only really made when something breaks outside of the box and is fresh in some significant way. plenty of scope for this cause its not really a genre per se. great hip-hop normally comes from within a smaller framework. my 2cents.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 04, 2010, 04:55:30 PM
No one in Hip Hop is doing shit like Lady Gaga. You could make the argument for Lil' Wayne or Eminem, but Gaga is unreal at the moment.

She has at least six songs that were number one on iTunes all on one album; who does that?

I don't want to give credit or discredit Gaga because I don't know, but I don't know if she writes her own things & picks her beats, but I would say for the most part in Pop, in general, it's harder to make a Hip Hop song considering they write their own lyrics & pick their own beats; where pop stars, like Rihanna, just get lyrics & beats & are just told to sing.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 04, 2010, 05:15:31 PM
Good posts..

Yeah, if I were to learn she didn't pick her production style and she ain't write her own lyrics I would not be giving this much credit to her..

But like with rappers, you gotta give the benefit of the doubt until someone exposes you, so.....
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Matty on August 04, 2010, 05:28:29 PM
No one in Hip Hop is doing shit like Lady Gaga. You could make the argument for Lil' Wayne or Eminem, but Gaga is unreal at the moment.

She has at least six songs that were number one on iTunes all on one album; who does that?

I don't want to give credit or discredit Gaga because I don't know, but I don't know if she writes her own things & picks her beats, but I would say for the most part in Pop, in general, it's harder to make a Hip Hop song considering they write their own lyrics & pick their own beats; where pop stars, like Rihanna, just get lyrics & beats & are just told to sing.

it depends what you call 'good' pop music though. it might be easier for an artist to make a pop record (rhianna), but that doesn't mean its good and the overall record then becomes much more of a collaborative effort. somebody still had to craft it. i would argue that talent shines through anyway - where the artist can actually write and is involved in the musical process (ie MJ, even Justin Timberlake) there is much more chance of quality music, something i would consider to be quality pop.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 04, 2010, 08:19:39 PM
^I honestly can't comment on it, because I don't listen to ANY Pop besides Gaga; maybe a little Rihanna, but just her singles.

So I guess that goes to show you, Gaga caught my attention with something & I was into her music before I even knew what she looked like & how ridiculous she dressed. It's just good/catchy music.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on August 04, 2010, 08:25:07 PM
lol @ dudes acting like she's more than just the next pop star. If you admit to bumping her music that's fine and all, but don't make it more than it is. Especially on a chick that's been around less than 2 years.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 04, 2010, 08:58:53 PM
^I was never into Britney or Christina & I know they had their fair share of hits.

But how many albums did they have with 6 DOMINATING singles? I can't think of many people compared to Madonna. I mean obviously we'll have to see how she follow ups after such a ridiculous success on her first album.

But she seems to take great pride in her music & would appear to really enjoy what she does.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: GangstaBoogy on August 04, 2010, 09:29:54 PM
a fake ass grace jones,and stole the rest of her style from some other white lady who has done that, it's all about getting the right people behind ya, props to akon tho cause he get's a checc (at least for now),
lady gaga strip'n! please, ma don't bother
since you got something that could make you a fatha (father)
yell

What the fuck did you just say?!
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: G-Bee on August 04, 2010, 09:48:54 PM
For those who want to know more about Gaga's video's, check out the following links:


Alejandro (http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3979)
Telephone (http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3423)
Bad Romance (http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=2737)
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: K.Dub on August 05, 2010, 07:07:37 AM
Katy Perry >>>> Gaga
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Paul on August 05, 2010, 07:26:30 AM
The only Lady Gaga track i like is Teeth. Sounds like a Bangladesh production but havent checked the credits
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: SCREWFACE on August 05, 2010, 07:51:30 AM
a fake ass grace jones,and stole the rest of her style from some other white lady who has done that

yeah some serious grace swaggajackin goin on here. and the white lady is kate bush
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: BIGWORM on August 05, 2010, 02:38:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2O1ZxnmOX4&feature=related
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: K.Dub on August 05, 2010, 04:46:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2O1ZxnmOX4&feature=related

That was horrible.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 05, 2010, 04:49:00 PM
ALSO: Her music videos are just way too gangsta to overlook, go youtube some.

When Eastcoast rappers started referring to EVERYthing that was "cool" as bein "gangsta"...is when everything "gangsta" officially ceased to exist in mainstream rap music lol
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 05, 2010, 05:01:21 PM
ALSO: Her music videos are just way too gangsta to overlook, go youtube some.

When Eastcoast rappers started referring to EVERYthing that was "cool" as bein "gangsta"...is when everything "gangsta" officially ceased to exist in mainstream rap music lol

That reminds me of when everyone starting calling things "dope", the drug use on a national scale went up in both Canada and America.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: K.Dub on August 05, 2010, 05:05:03 PM
ALSO: Her music videos are just way too gangsta to overlook, go youtube some.

When Eastcoast rappers started referring to EVERYthing that was "cool" as bein "gangsta"...is when everything "gangsta" officially ceased to exist in mainstream rap music lol
Lol


Plus, I don't see what's so GREAT about her videos. She's just doing them to shock and get more publicity, like madonna 20 years ago..
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 05, 2010, 05:06:27 PM
ALSO: Her music videos are just way too gangsta to overlook, go youtube some.

When Eastcoast rappers started referring to EVERYthing that was "cool" as bein "gangsta"...is when everything "gangsta" officially ceased to exist in mainstream rap music lol
Lol


Plus, I don't see what's so GREAT about her videos. She's just doing them to shock and get more publicity, like madonna 20 years ago..

Go watch the top 30 countdown on your local music station and you'll see why her videos are a breathe of fresh air, done for shock or not..
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on August 05, 2010, 07:42:44 PM
cham u got a hard on for this chick
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 05, 2010, 09:04:03 PM
cham u got a hard on for this chick

Oh right, I forgot, when you defend an artist is means your clearly a stan; my bad.

I guess we should all just agree she is just another pop star, because that's what forums are for, to come together & agree on everything.

JUST ANOTHER POPSTAR; END THREAD.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 05, 2010, 09:09:57 PM
it was born a man right or some shit?
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on August 05, 2010, 10:14:53 PM
cham u got a hard on for this chick

Oh right, I forgot, when you defend an artist is means your clearly a stan; my bad.

I guess we should all just agree she is just another pop star, because that's what forums are for, to come together & agree on everything.

JUST ANOTHER POPSTAR; END THREAD.

 :laugh:

lol, not calling you a stan. Just saying you have a hard on for Lady Gaga.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 05, 2010, 10:51:12 PM
cham u got a hard on for this chick

Oh right, I forgot, when you defend an artist is means your clearly a stan; my bad.

I guess we should all just agree she is just another pop star, because that's what forums are for, to come together & agree on everything.

JUST ANOTHER POPSTAR; END THREAD.

 :laugh:

lol, not calling you a stan. Just saying you have a hard on for Lady Gaga.

If by that you mean enjoy her music then, yes, I do.

As for the "hard on"...

http://www.youtube.com/v/mVEG793G3N4&feature=av2e

only when viewing this video. :banana_hitit:
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: K.Dub on August 06, 2010, 02:17:55 AM
ALSO: Her music videos are just way too gangsta to overlook, go youtube some.

When Eastcoast rappers started referring to EVERYthing that was "cool" as bein "gangsta"...is when everything "gangsta" officially ceased to exist in mainstream rap music lol
Lol


Plus, I don't see what's so GREAT about her videos. She's just doing them to shock and get more publicity, like madonna 20 years ago..

Go watch the top 30 countdown on your local music station and you'll see why her videos are a breathe of fresh air, done for shock or not..
Nah, they're all weird to me. The most normal vid she has gotta be the one Cham posted.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Portugoal on August 06, 2010, 02:22:31 AM
(http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/6317/zxynkok2icu9ji7.jpg)

hmm?
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: SCREWFACE on August 06, 2010, 08:03:30 AM
(http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/6317/zxynkok2icu9ji7.jpg)

hmm?

ahahah this is her first failed image when her nose was even bigger. and folks think her style wasnt completely manufactured to shock and bring publicity. "gaga" use to be one of those bitches at the coffee shop with her acoustic guitar singing boring ass songs, but that didnt work so her and her ex boyfriend created the lady gaga character/brand/product.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 06, 2010, 12:05:19 PM
^A billion dollar idea that worked. You know how many rappers, even ones you listen to, probably "failed" with their first attempts of getting into the game?
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 06, 2010, 12:06:50 PM
cham u got a hard on for this chick

Oh right, I forgot, when you defend an artist is means your clearly a stan; my bad.

I guess we should all just agree she is just another pop star, because that's what forums are for, to come together & agree on everything.

JUST ANOTHER POPSTAR; END THREAD.

 :laugh:

lol, not calling you a stan. Just saying you have a hard on for Lady Gaga.

If by that you mean enjoy her music then, yes, I do.

Ok quick! Who would win in a fight?

Lady Gaga?

or

Joe Budden?
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 06, 2010, 12:12:05 PM
cham u got a hard on for this chick

Oh right, I forgot, when you defend an artist is means your clearly a stan; my bad.

I guess we should all just agree she is just another pop star, because that's what forums are for, to come together & agree on everything.

JUST ANOTHER POPSTAR; END THREAD.

 :laugh:

lol, not calling you a stan. Just saying you have a hard on for Lady Gaga.

If by that you mean enjoy her music then, yes, I do.

Ok quick! Who would win in a fight?

Lady Gaga?

or

Joe Budden?

Trick question! The room would explode due to the amount of sheer awesomeness they both bring with them.

Nice try though.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 06, 2010, 12:12:26 PM
(http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/6317/zxynkok2icu9ji7.jpg)

hmm?

ahahah this is her first failed image when her nose was even bigger. and folks think her style wasnt completely manufactured to shock and bring publicity. "gaga" use to be one of those bitches at the coffee shop with her acoustic guitar singing boring ass songs, but that didnt work so her and her ex boyfriend created the lady gaga character/brand/product.

Goddamn!!

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41CN8wZPi7L._SS400_.jpg)
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 06, 2010, 12:13:13 PM
cham u got a hard on for this chick

Oh right, I forgot, when you defend an artist is means your clearly a stan; my bad.

I guess we should all just agree she is just another pop star, because that's what forums are for, to come together & agree on everything.

JUST ANOTHER POPSTAR; END THREAD.

 :laugh:

lol, not calling you a stan. Just saying you have a hard on for Lady Gaga.

If by that you mean enjoy her music then, yes, I do.

Ok quick! Who would win in a fight?

Lady Gaga?

or

Joe Budden?

Trick question! The room would explode due to the amount of sheer awesomeness they both bring with them.

Nice try though.

ok...

well, who has a bigger penis? lol
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 06, 2010, 12:20:30 PM
cham u got a hard on for this chick

Oh right, I forgot, when you defend an artist is means your clearly a stan; my bad.

I guess we should all just agree she is just another pop star, because that's what forums are for, to come together & agree on everything.

JUST ANOTHER POPSTAR; END THREAD.

 :laugh:

lol, not calling you a stan. Just saying you have a hard on for Lady Gaga.

If by that you mean enjoy her music then, yes, I do.

Ok quick! Who would win in a fight?

Lady Gaga?

or

Joe Budden?

Trick question! The room would explode due to the amount of sheer awesomeness they both bring with them.

Nice try though.

ok...

well, who has a bigger penis? lol

Gaga, easy. Didn't you see how Joe dealt with the Wu beef? He's a screaming vagina.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 06, 2010, 02:57:41 PM
And Lupe Fiasco used to spit gangsta rap.  Does that mean as an artist, he can't create other music? 

Nope

#EtherFail
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 06, 2010, 03:00:51 PM
And Lupe Fiasco used to spit gangsta rap.  Does that mean as an artist, he can't create other music? 

Nope

#EtherFail

as an artist you can do whatever you want. But you cant always expect everyone to take u seriously.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 06, 2010, 03:04:40 PM
And Lupe Fiasco used to spit gangsta rap.  Does that mean as an artist, he can't create other music? 

Nope

#EtherFail

as an artist you can do whatever you want. But you cant always expect everyone to take u seriously.

Yup, props!
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: V2DHeart on August 06, 2010, 06:13:32 PM
IMO, Lady GaGa is a lot more talented than say - the likes of Britney Spears, Leona Lewis, Christina Aguilera. She can play intstruments true, but she has a genuine passion to puh for that true authenic uniqueness and wackyness which would make one unique. She did look a bit dorky in her field play amture days, but so would most artists if you'd look at their portfolio. She's on the big screen now, and puts effort into putting something different and crazy out there to make people think WTF. Rather than some whiney little b*tch crying about her love for her bf. She's only been on the mainstream scene for over a year almost 2 years. Give her 4 first, and see what direction her commercial fame takes her, because I feel after a number of years, an artist should be measured on just that - the length, direction, passion, and content they incript into their music/art
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: K.Dub on August 06, 2010, 07:05:13 PM
cham u got a hard on for this chick

Oh right, I forgot, when you defend an artist is means your clearly a stan; my bad.

I guess we should all just agree she is just another pop star, because that's what forums are for, to come together & agree on everything.

JUST ANOTHER POPSTAR; END THREAD.

 :laugh:

lol, not calling you a stan. Just saying you have a hard on for Lady Gaga.

If by that you mean enjoy her music then, yes, I do.

Ok quick! Who would win in a fight?

Lady Gaga?

or

Joe Budden?

Trick question! The room would explode due to the amount of sheer awesomeness they both bring with them.

Nice try though.

Hahaha, what?!
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 06, 2010, 07:07:48 PM
^They both have this aura of greatness that would cause a catastrophic explosion, if both placed in the same room; simple science.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 06, 2010, 08:10:00 PM
IMO, Lady GaGa is a lot more talented than say - the likes of Britney Spears, Leona Lewis, Christina Aguilera. She can play intstruments true, but she has a genuine passion to puh for that true authenic uniqueness and wackyness which would make one unique. She did look a bit dorky in her field play amture days, but so would most artists if you'd look at their portfolio. She's on the big screen now, and puts effort into putting something different and crazy out there to make people think WTF. Rather than some whiney little b*tch crying about her love for her bf. She's only been on the mainstream scene for over a year almost 2 years. Give her 4 first, and see what direction her commercial fame takes her, because I feel after a number of years, an artist should be measured on just that - the length, direction, passion, and content they incript into their music/art

I dont get it. Are u sayin she's a man or what?
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on August 06, 2010, 10:51:55 PM
cham u got a hard on for this chick

Oh right, I forgot, when you defend an artist is means your clearly a stan; my bad.

I guess we should all just agree she is just another pop star, because that's what forums are for, to come together & agree on everything.

JUST ANOTHER POPSTAR; END THREAD.

 :laugh:

lol, not calling you a stan. Just saying you have a hard on for Lady Gaga.

If by that you mean enjoy her music then, yes, I do.

As for the "hard on"...

http://www.youtube.com/v/mVEG793G3N4&feature=av2e

only when viewing this video. :banana_hitit:

her dogs are amazing!
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: weedhead on August 07, 2010, 12:12:13 AM
bitch got abody though.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga
Post by: K.Dub on August 07, 2010, 02:57:12 AM
^They both have this aura of greatness that would cause a catastrophic explosion, if both placed in the same room; simple science.
Yes ofcourse.