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Title: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: YaKno7 on August 04, 2010, 08:14:55 PM
Outside the coast, excluding legends (Cube:Snoop:Dre etc)

GAME the FACE of west coast Hip Hop but seems like Game fading away because he don't know to make hits to survive in the industry.  Game in my opinion had one of the best chances for a west coast artist but something just isn't connecting with Game.   I'm not counting GAME out yet but

it appears NIPSEY is the next out the WEST with help from the big homie GAME:SNOOP:CUBE and so 4th.  Yes it's a lot of acts out here GRINDING but the majority of them are NOT REALLY KNOWN outside the WEST COAST

Nipsey like GAME has a MAJOR RECORD DEAL.  Not just us on the WEST but Hip Hop in general if you want to stay relevant the UNITS HAVE TO BE PUSHED out the STORE.  We looking at RICK ROSS...dropped one of the best albums of the year....not selling shit.  The industry far more quicker than SHUT THE DOOR in the FACE of a WEST COAST NIGGA than any other region in the game.

With GAME it look like he might FLOP...not a good look....because THESE MAJOR LABELS not going believe in WEST COAST GANGSTA RAP.....when NIPSEY drop.....I think
everybody should support and keep this shit going......

unless we all can.....DOUGIE.....MY DOUGIE......
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on August 04, 2010, 08:34:36 PM
I don't support rappers based on whether they are going to blow up or not, I do it based on whether they make dope or wack music. I If the album comes out I'd buy it depending on whether its dope or not. Y'all sheep need to do the same. Who gives a fuck whether a particular region moves units? It has been shown time and time again that whenever a type of music gets popular, it becomes stale and commercialized. I'd rather see rappers being somewhat successful and putting out good music, then seeing them go platinum and start putting out commercialized trash. Fuck riding for a region, I ride for good music.
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: YaKno7 on August 04, 2010, 08:40:51 PM
I don't support rappers based on whether they are going to blow up or not, I do it based on whether they make dope or wack music. I If the album comes out I'd buy it depending on whether its dope or not. Y'all sheep need to do the same. Who gives a fuck whether a particular region moves units? It has been shown time and time again that whenever a type of music gets popular, it becomes stale and commercialized. I'd rather see rappers being somewhat successful and putting out good music, then seeing them go platinum and start putting out commercialized trash. Fuck riding for a region, I ride for good music.

If there is 2 lemonade stands in separate parts of town and they both do good than what do you think will happen in the next few months? Either those 2 stands will open up more stands or outside investors will step in and open up more stands.   I love good music like the rest but the opportunity a record company could provide is gold mine for networking. 

Sales are important because hate it or love it, it's business.  The rapper has to pay the same bills you pay at the end of the day.  If 1 new act blows than another 1 develops and as a region it comes full circle
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: J-FUNKTION on August 04, 2010, 09:05:50 PM
i gave up on game...for every good song, he has 2 that are awful..

but yes...nipsey is the man with the torch...

Nipsey Hussle >>> Game
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 04, 2010, 09:07:53 PM
nipsey aint on the best "major" label...hes startin 2 sell out
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: GangstaBoogy on August 04, 2010, 09:24:47 PM
West Coast fans are the worst.

If Nipsey drops wack music and stays underground - niggas will love him.

But if he drops great music and starts to blow up - niggas will hate him.


I gave up on hoping for the West Coast to ever make it back to the mainstream. I just hope we can atleast get back to the 2001-2005 era where underground artist would atleast release dope albums without worrying if they could sell big numbers a lot.
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on August 04, 2010, 09:30:41 PM
I don't support rappers based on whether they are going to blow up or not, I do it based on whether they make dope or wack music. I If the album comes out I'd buy it depending on whether its dope or not. Y'all sheep need to do the same. Who gives a fuck whether a particular region moves units? It has been shown time and time again that whenever a type of music gets popular, it becomes stale and commercialized. I'd rather see rappers being somewhat successful and putting out good music, then seeing them go platinum and start putting out commercialized trash. Fuck riding for a region, I ride for good music.

If there is 2 lemonade stands in separate parts of town and they both do good than what do you think will happen in the next few months? Either those 2 stands will open up more stands or outside investors will step in and open up more stands.   I love good music like the rest but the opportunity a record company could provide is gold mine for networking. 

Sales are important because hate it or love it, it's business.  The rapper has to pay the same bills you pay at the end of the day.  If 1 new act blows than another 1 develops and as a region it comes full circle

Except rappers don't make most of their money from selling units. Hip hop is an artform and a music genre, not a business. Once you look at it as a business then the music becomes commercialized. The west coast has been dead for years and all these dudes are still putting out music. No ones going out of business. Support good shit, not something just because its west coast.
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 04, 2010, 09:35:25 PM
Nipsey isn't even all that. Overrated.

What do you get from supporting him? He won't make a single that's radio friendly and/or catchy; so even if you convince five people on here to buy his album, he'll sell 76 albums opposed to 71.
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: KyleEshna on August 04, 2010, 09:45:50 PM
I've been supporting him by purchasing his singles.  On the 10th, I plan to buy "Feelin' Myself".

(http://i.imgur.com/yUpaE.png)
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: SGT x Tok3R on August 04, 2010, 10:08:20 PM
I've been supporting him by purchasing his singles.  On the 10th, I plan to buy "Feelin' Myself".

(http://i.imgur.com/yUpaE.png)

Where are you buying his singles?
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: h2k4 on August 04, 2010, 10:29:13 PM
i gave up on game...for every good song, he has 2 that are awful..

but yes...nipsey is the man with the torch...

Nipsey Hussle >>> Game

LMAO!!!!!!  Crazy talk........

Like others have said, don't buy based on the region, buy it if it's dope.  I support the West Coast to the fullest but I will not support wack West Coast music.  Like Jay Rock's music, I have not been impressed with Nipsey's music as of late.  The so-called "New-West" is dropping the ball.

Some of you guys kill me with this 'Game has fallen off' or 'Game can't make dope music anymore' talk.  In case you haven't figured it out yet, he's experimenting with different types of music.  And I'm sure Interscope has some influence in his recent tracks.
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: cubedogg on August 04, 2010, 10:36:46 PM
He needs to drop a dope single then.
I dont know why the Gangstas Life song ft Snoop wasnt a single. That shit was fire and radio friendly. Its kinda a classic imo if it was to be used on a LP, because Snoop came correct on that ish
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: KyleEshna on August 04, 2010, 11:28:29 PM
Where are you buying his singles?

Amazon.com
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: shoo on August 04, 2010, 11:36:54 PM
why do you want west artists to go mainstream so bad? mainstream = worse quality music because it need to reach more people. so if fe. Nipsey blows up i guess he won't do it with the west coast sound because west coast sound don't sell anymore and what is more since west coast sound don't sell, music in the mainstream was getting worse and worse. Let's face it. BAGNN vol 1 was dope, BAGNN vol 2 was superdope, vol 3 was average and after that every new Nipsey's song was losing that west coast sound imo. i'm a big Nipsey fan but unfortunately since BAGNN vol3  i'm losing interest everytime he puts a new song because his songs are getting worse.

of course i hope South Central State Of Mind is going to be dope as fuck, he'll sell 10 mils of it and be another west coast rapper who "did it". But i can see what sells nowadays and i'm pretty sure it's impossible to "do it" with good music anymore. Best example? Eminem who went pop and makes crazy numbers.

Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: GangstaBoogy on August 05, 2010, 12:00:28 AM
why do you want west artists to go mainstream so bad? mainstream = worse quality music because it need to reach more people..

So you don't like "Nuthin But a G Thang", "Gin & Juice", or "California Love"? Those were all mainstream songs. You're getting the wrong idea. No one is hoping for a West Coast version of Lollipop were just hoping to be able to turn on the tv / radio one day and hear somebody from our own side.
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: J-FUNKTION on August 05, 2010, 12:27:20 AM
i gave up on game...for every good song, he has 2 that are awful..

but yes...nipsey is the man with the torch...

Nipsey Hussle >>> Game

LMAO!!!!!!  Crazy talk........

Like others have said, don't buy based on the region, buy it if it's dope.  I support the West Coast to the fullest but I will not support wack West Coast music.  Like Jay Rock's music, I have not been impressed with Nipsey's music as of late.  The so-called "New-West" is dropping the ball.

Some of you guys kill me with this 'Game has fallen off' or 'Game can't make dope music anymore' talk.  In case you haven't figured it out yet, he's experimenting with different types of music.  And I'm sure Interscope has some influence in his recent tracks.

i dont give a fuck where dudes from...i like his shit..i bump way more nipsey than game..and i never said game fell off...imo in general game is meh...real dope sometimes...real wack sometimes...

and i could twist your response around the same way...how you sayin you aint been impressed with nipseys music lately..maybe hes experimenting like game is supposedly..
just like nipsey gotta do a few tracks more commercial friendly for the label...

it goes both ways my dude...
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: shoo on August 05, 2010, 12:29:53 AM
why do you want west artists to go mainstream so bad? mainstream = worse quality music because it need to reach more people..

So you don't like "Nuthin But a G Thang", "Gin & Juice", or "California Love"? Those were all mainstream songs. You're getting the wrong idea. No one is hoping for a West Coast version of Lollipop were just hoping to be able to turn on the tv / radio one day and hear somebody from our own side.

wake up! it's not the same mainstream as it was 10, 15 or 20 years ago. Yes you will be able to turn on radio/tv and hear somebody from your side but i guess you won't like it anyway. You can do it even now but i'm not sure if Katy Perry + Snoop Dogg is what you want to bump.

The whole music industry has changed. It has been changing since it's begining. mainstream music has been chaning and these changes were always going to the one direction - to make pop music more and more simple to make it suitable for younger and younger publicity. And you know what? I don't think it's going to change soon. And what is more you're getting older and older so the mainstream is getting less suitable for you.

And this shit is called life man. You better stop dreaming.

Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: Fraxxx on August 05, 2010, 02:51:16 AM
I read it a couple of times now, so, how in the world is Nipsey selling out??
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: YaKno7 on August 05, 2010, 05:02:20 AM
this thread isn't a knock to GAME, it would be smooth sailing if Game's music was hitting the people outside the west coast like Ross's shit is hitting people outside the south.

People saying gangsta rappers can't make singles because they would sell out....did people forget about these already....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUjfWwqFcFI&feature=av2e
JEEZY LUV IT


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tsmqrk7Wgsk&feature=av2e
JEEZY PLIES LOSE MY MIND


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2MVzP4MaJ0&feature=av2e
ROSS B.M.F

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WElkxS2LkI&feature=av2e
CLIPSE I'M GOOD


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5-yKhDd64s&feature=av2e
EMINEM NOT AFRAID

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM80sNU_6cU
WAKA Hard in the Paint




all those tunes get heavy play in Black cities all across the south and east coast meaning the rappers consistently book shows from the mid west up
to CT.  I don't see why it has to be different over here.

People need to realize the music industry is a business now more than ever.  Nobody is going to keep making music for free though.  Those of you who
say your favorite artist wouldn't jump for a major deal is kidding your selves
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: Mista Rosa on August 05, 2010, 06:22:41 AM
I'll check his work but he hasn't really impressed me so far.. I've liked more Bishop Lamont's songs. I still don't know who to really check as far as the "New West". Give me some names!
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 05, 2010, 06:29:29 AM
Yeah gangsta life was his best chance so far...dope song and prolly his best and even snoop was dope on it
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on August 05, 2010, 07:21:33 AM
I'll check his work but he hasn't really impressed me so far.. I've liked more Bishop Lamont's songs. I still don't know who to really check as far as the "New West". Give me some names!

Blu >>>>
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: Fraxxx on August 05, 2010, 09:48:54 AM
I'll check his work but he hasn't really impressed me so far.. I've liked more Bishop Lamont's songs. I still don't know who to really check as far as the "New West". Give me some names!

Fashawn

http://www.datpiff.com/Hecktik_Soprano_Fashawn_The_Phenom_Vol1.m15946.html

http://www.datpiff.com/Dj_Green_Lantern_Fashawn_Ode_To_Illmatic.m127130.html
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: GangstaBoogy on August 05, 2010, 12:03:00 PM
why do you want west artists to go mainstream so bad? mainstream = worse quality music because it need to reach more people..

So you don't like "Nuthin But a G Thang", "Gin & Juice", or "California Love"? Those were all mainstream songs. You're getting the wrong idea. No one is hoping for a West Coast version of Lollipop were just hoping to be able to turn on the tv / radio one day and hear somebody from our own side.

wake up! it's not the same mainstream as it was 10, 15 or 20 years ago. Yes you will be able to turn on radio/tv and hear somebody from your side but i guess you won't like it anyway. You can do it even now but i'm not sure if Katy Perry + Snoop Dogg is what you want to bump.

The whole music industry has changed. It has been changing since it's begining. mainstream music has been chaning and these changes were always going to the one direction - to make pop music more and more simple to make it suitable for younger and younger publicity. And you know what? I don't think it's going to change soon. And what is more you're getting older and older so the mainstream is getting less suitable for you.

And this shit is called life man. You better stop dreaming.



Yeah its not the same mainstream but its not that far off. Look at "Gin & Juice" - that was a record about partying and getting drunk. Yeah its not like we don't hear 100 songs with that subject matter on the radio all day.
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: You'll Never Walk Alone on August 05, 2010, 12:24:10 PM
Dont think you should support an artist jst coz hes from your coast. But i do like some of nipseys shit and agree gangstas life should of been the first single.
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: Dre-Day on August 05, 2010, 12:50:08 PM
might as well supply crack addicts
Title: Re: For the sake of the WEST:when Nipsey drop SUPPORT
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 05, 2010, 02:08:11 PM
Lol^