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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Elano on August 18, 2010, 02:08:11 AM
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It seems more and more likely Carmelo Anthony will not sign a contract extension with the Nuggets, which likely will force the team to trade him, perhaps to the Knicks.
ESPN.com reported last night that Anthony is "going to make it real clear that he's not coming back" to Denver, according to an NBA source.
"Both Nuggets owner Stan Kroenke and Anthony already are well aware that they don't have a future together, sources say. That became clear to Kroenke at a reception after Anthony's July 11 (wedding) to La La Vasquez in Manhattan," the report says.
During the reception, Hornets guard Chris Paul and new Knicks forward Amar'e Stoudemire both mentioned in toasts that Anthony should join the Knicks. Anthony "apparently did nothing to discourage or dismiss the suggestions that he should leave the Nuggets," the report says.
Anthony, who grew up in Baltimore and played at Syracuse, could return to the East Coast in two ways: He could sign the three-year, $65 million extension the Nuggets have offered, then force the team to trade him. Or he could refuse to sign, leaving the Nuggets to trade him or receive nothing when he becomes a free agent after this season.
Either option could have Anthony in a Knicks uniform at the start of this season, or at the league's February trade deadline.
The Denver Post reports the Nuggets have maintained they will trade the high-scoring forward rather than lose him for nothing, and ESPN said, around the NBA, "The persistent belief is New York is where he wants to end up."
According to ESPN, the Knicks could offer Eddy Curry and his expiring contract to the Nuggets, along with players, in a trade.
Last week, Anthony said he had no timetable to sign the extension, a very lucrative deal considering the NBA's unstable labor situation heading into 2011-12. Other reports had those close to Anthony saying the Knicks are "perfect for him."
The Nuggets recently fired their basketball operations chief, Mark Warkentien, and could wait to hire front-office personnel before trading Anthony.
ESPN reports Anthony took a liking to Knicks coach Mike D'Antoni during the 2008 Olympics, where D'Antoni was an assistant coach for Team USA.
The Knicks signed only Stoudemire from a 2010 free agent class that included LeBron James and Chris Bosh, who both joined Miami, with their respective teams (Cleveland, Toronto) getting nothing in return.
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There are two ways that Anthony could force a trade in the near future. He could sign the three-year, $65 million extension Denver has offered him and demand a trade.
He could also refuse to sign, leaving the Nuggets to trade him or receive nothing when he becomes a free agent after this season.
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It seems more and more likely Carmelo Anthony will not sign a contract extension with the Nuggets, which likely will force the team to trade him, perhaps to the Knicks.
ESPN.com reported last night that Anthony is "going to make it real clear that he's not coming back" to Denver, according to an NBA source.
"Both Nuggets owner Stan Kroenke and Anthony already are well aware that they don't have a future together, sources say. That became clear to Kroenke at a reception after Anthony's July 11 (wedding) to La La Vasquez in Manhattan," the report says.
During the reception, Hornets guard Chris Paul and new Knicks forward Amar'e Stoudemire both mentioned in toasts that Anthony should join the Knicks. Anthony "apparently did nothing to discourage or dismiss the suggestions that he should leave the Nuggets," the report says.
Anthony, who grew up in Baltimore and played at Syracuse, could return to the East Coast in two ways: He could sign the three-year, $65 million extension the Nuggets have offered, then force the team to trade him. Or he could refuse to sign, leaving the Nuggets to trade him or receive nothing when he becomes a free agent after this season.
Either option could have Anthony in a Knicks uniform at the start of this season, or at the league's February trade deadline.
The Denver Post reports the Nuggets have maintained they will trade the high-scoring forward rather than lose him for nothing, and ESPN said, around the NBA, "The persistent belief is New York is where he wants to end up."
According to ESPN, the Knicks could offer Eddy Curry and his expiring contract to the Nuggets, along with players, in a trade.
Last week, Anthony said he had no timetable to sign the extension, a very lucrative deal considering the NBA's unstable labor situation heading into 2011-12. Other reports had those close to Anthony saying the Knicks are "perfect for him."
The Nuggets recently fired their basketball operations chief, Mark Warkentien, and could wait to hire front-office personnel before trading Anthony.
ESPN reports Anthony took a liking to Knicks coach Mike D'Antoni during the 2008 Olympics, where D'Antoni was an assistant coach for Team USA.
The Knicks signed only Stoudemire from a 2010 free agent class that included LeBron James and Chris Bosh, who both joined Miami, with their respective teams (Cleveland, Toronto) getting nothing in return.
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There are two ways that Anthony could force a trade in the near future. He could sign the three-year, $65 million extension Denver has offered him and demand a trade.
He could also refuse to sign, leaving the Nuggets to trade him or receive nothing when he becomes a free agent after this season.
LOL, why would anyone in their right mind even consider taking on Eddy Curry's terrible contract?
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I want to see angry Lakers fans in here. Bitching and complaining that he "scumbagged" the Nuggets.
This is a straight up LeBron James move; now start crying to me.
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^ He's still acting like a bitch, but not on LeBron's level. He's telling them he wants a trade, not waiting until the last minute and announcing his decision to leave on a fuckin ESPN special.
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^As an owner I'd prefer a player to play out his contract while winning the MVP and making my team tons of money while winning 60+ games, than a player who demands a trade prior to his contract ending.
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^ I see where you're coming from, but at least Melo is giving them a chance to actually acquire some pieces for him. And besides LeBron making a bunch of money for the organization last year, what else did he do for them? They got eliminated in the second round.. And I don't remember there being anything in Melo's contract that said he could only go to the Knicks, there's probably plenty of large market teams that would give up prospects for Melo. I don't agree with what either guy is doing, but LeBron's seemed way more classless to me (which is saying something)
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A writer from the Denver Post said that this in no way is as big as the LeBron deal. Now within the Nuggets org, this is like Armageddon, but for the fans, Denver is a football town that got lucky that the Detroit Pistons were dumb enough not to pick up 'Melo, and Denver is a city that has won titles in other sports so they are not going to be as mad. In Cleveland, they are a whatever team has the best chance of winning a title because none of my teams have even a snow balls chance in hell, except for the Cavs who are lead by our hometown hero. Then the hometown hero stabbed us in the back, and is now talking shit about never liking Cleveland. There's a huge difference.
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I'd say it's the same. Melo bailing out now cancels out the hour long decision show LeBron had & he's going to play with Amare, which is more help.
& let's be real, I wouldn't be surprised to see CP3 heading to NY next season either. Basically the EXACT same thing LeBron did; but since it's LeBron & there are "LeBron>>>" talks, you guys run & make it seem different.
Let's have an unbiased viewing of the situation at hand; it wasn't like Lebron said "I'm without a doubt coming back to Cleveland", he took his time played it out & made you all sit & watch & it made you sick, but in the end just the fact that it aggrivated you so much to see & hear about him everywhere you turned that made you hate it when he ran to his best scenario & given the chemistry is there will beat the Lakers in the Finals lol.
If a week after he lost to Boston he said, "I think I'm going to play in Miami with Wade" & wasn't on TV, you'd still hate on the decision. But if he came out & said, "I'm going to New Jersey with Jay-Z" you'd respect the decision because as a Lakers fan or any fan of a competitive team, you know him playing in NJ can't hurt you.
Bottom line, you're all just mad that he's in the world's greatest scenario to win a title besides play with Kobe in LA; when in reality Melo is doing the same thing, just situating himself in his best possible scenario.
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man if i was in nuggets management i'd laugh at this equal for being a bitch like alot of the 03 draft class,then ship his ass off to the clippers for some of they good young talent and draft pics without giving his ass the extension, i mean really how you gonna ask for an extention and a trade hahahaha,tell a equal he a star now and he goes extra diva, may not be no labron shit but fucc wanting and extension and a trade would even make labron say damn even i ain't do no bitch shit like that yell
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I'd say it's the same. Melo bailing out now cancels out the hour long decision show LeBron had & he's going to play with Amare, which is more help.
& let's be real, I wouldn't be surprised to see CP3 heading to NY next season either. Basically the EXACT same thing LeBron did; but since it's LeBron & there are "LeBron>>>" talks, you guys run & make it seem different.
Let's have an unbiased viewing of the situation at hand; it wasn't like Lebron said "I'm without a doubt coming back to Cleveland", he took his time played it out & made you all sit & watch & it made you sick, but in the end just the fact that it aggrivated you so much to see & hear about him everywhere you turned that made you hate it when he ran to his best scenario & given the chemistry is there will beat the Lakers in the Finals lol.
If a week after he lost to Boston he said, "I think I'm going to play in Miami with Wade" & wasn't on TV, you'd still hate on the decision. But if he came out & said, "I'm going to New Jersey with Jay-Z" you'd respect the decision because as a Lakers fan or any fan of a competitive team, you know him playing in NJ can't hurt you.
Bottom line, you're all just mad that he's in the world's greatest scenario to win a title besides play with Kobe in LA; when in reality Melo is doing the same thing, just situating himself in his best possible scenario.
WTF are you talking about. No, LeBron waiting until the last minute, and the Cavs getting nothing is far worst than giving a team a year long notice so that they can take their time and handle the situation correctly. I mean, seriously, are you truly trying to argue this point when you know damn well what LeBron did was cripple his team and gave them no other options. Within a few days the Cavs lost their star player, their starting center and their back up center all because of LeBron decision. Carmelo is still thinking things over, and Denver is preparing for the worst, and they know that if they play their cards right they can get something back. Cleveland was not given that chance as LeBron didn't talk to anybody and he played it to fit his ego, Carmelo is trying to get LaLa back into the NYC. I can't believe you are even trying to argue this.
http://www.denverpost.com/krieger/ci_15810611
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LOL, LeBron is the best (or seconds best w/e) player in the game. No matter what happened, the Cavs couldn't recover. He wasn't going to be traded, why would the Cavs trade him during the middle of a season they were on pace & reached 66 wins? Who in their right mind would do that?
Whether LeBron waited until the last mintue or told them seconds after they lost to Boston, the Cavs would be in the exact same situation; there was nothing they could do about it. Don't make it seem like him waiting hurt them, even if he told them going into the playoffs "If I don't win, I'm going to Miami", they STILL would have no answer for that & STILL be in the same position they find themselves.
It shows how little help he truly had that him leaving makes that team automatically the worst in the entire NBA. Kobe leaves the Lakers, they are still playoff bound, in the more difficult West, none the less; but that's a different story/debate.
Melo is bailing on the Nuggets because he knows he can't win there with Kobe & his squad in LA & LeBron & his crew in South Beach. He must know CP3 is planning on going to NY with him & next season they will be able to compete with both of them.
Basically the ONLY positive thing Melo is doing for Denver is giving them Eddy Curry's expiring contract lol. If Carmelo leaves, they are finished & will be a lottery team & Carmelo Anthony's don't just show up in the draft every season, they will be in the same boat, even giving them a year's notice.
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good let melos ass go to NY less competition in the west 8)
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I don't give a shit what people think about Kobe, I like him personally, but he ain't reppin my city so don't use that as an argument. My issue with LeBron wasn't him leaving, it's the fact that he demanded that lame ass 1 hour special and shat all over the city and team that made him. Like I said, I don't agree with what either did, but at least Melo is giving them a warning and giving them a chance to acquire some talent, unlike LeBron who left his team in the dark all off season only to leave.
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I'd say it's the same. Melo bailing out now cancels out the hour long decision show LeBron had & he's going to play with Amare, which is more help.
& let's be real, I wouldn't be surprised to see CP3 heading to NY next season either. Basically the EXACT same thing LeBron did; but since it's LeBron & there are "LeBron>>>" talks, you guys run & make it seem different.
Let's have an unbiased viewing of the situation at hand; it wasn't like Lebron said "I'm without a doubt coming back to Cleveland", he took his time played it out & made you all sit & watch & it made you sick, but in the end just the fact that it aggrivated you so much to see & hear about him everywhere you turned that made you hate it when he ran to his best scenario & given the chemistry is there will beat the Lakers in the Finals lol.
If a week after he lost to Boston he said, "I think I'm going to play in Miami with Wade" & wasn't on TV, you'd still hate on the decision. But if he came out & said, "I'm going to New Jersey with Jay-Z" you'd respect the decision because as a Lakers fan or any fan of a competitive team, you know him playing in NJ can't hurt you.
Bottom line, you're all just mad that he's in the world's greatest scenario to win a title besides play with Kobe in LA; when in reality Melo is doing the same thing, just situating himself in his best possible scenario.
you are the biggest fuckin idiot alive LOL
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I want to see angry Lakers fans in here. Bitching and complaining that he "scumbagged" the Nuggets.
This is a straight up LeBron James move; now start crying to me.
very true
but don't get rationalism out of most Laker fans
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I want to see angry Lakers fans in here. Bitching and complaining that he "scumbagged" the Nuggets.
This is a straight up LeBron James move; now start crying to me.
very true
but don't get rationalism out of most Laker fans
ala NIK, who can't even comment.
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I don't give a shit what people think about Kobe, I like him personally, but he ain't reppin my city so don't use that as an argument. My issue with LeBron wasn't him leaving, it's the fact that he demanded that lame ass 1 hour special and shat all over the city and team that made him. Like I said, I don't agree with what either did, but at least Melo is giving them a warning and giving them a chance to acquire some talent, unlike LeBron who left his team in the dark all off season only to leave.
Like I said, that's the only reason people act like it was so bad because he built it up so much. I never said he wasn't egotistical.
& also like I said, Melo is giving them a warning; but Denver can't get much from the Knicks, so Denver is still inevitably fucked.
& ALSO like I said, even if LeBron gave them "warning" (if that was even possible), they had no alternative; they'd be in the same situation. He couldn't be traded prior to last year because why could the Cavs trade him after a 60+ win season; he was their best chance of winning. People knew all of last season & the season before that, that he was either leaving or staying. Then even if he IMMIDIATLEY told them that he was leaving after they lost, the Cavs STILL couldn't do anything about it. They, like the Nuggets will soon be, were inevitably fucked.
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If a player like LeBron leaves a cursed sports city with a bad basketball team like the Cavs, they are fucked, there is nothing he can do about it. He played out his contract and left. Normal stuff in my opinion. I personally would have left after my rookie contract was up. Nothing wrong with it. The Cavs didn't make him, he made the Cavs.
Say about "The Decision" what you want, yes, it was a major attention whore move, but guess why he's the only player to do that? Because he's the only player who CAN do that.
As for Carmelo, I've heard that the Rockets and Nets are also in the bargain. Both clearly better teams than the Knicks.
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Yeah y would cp3 talk aloud like that if he aint thinkin of goin there? But hes still under contract right? But looks like they tryna get a eastcoast thing goin...lakers will take anyone cham b easy wit dat
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I don't give a shit what people think about Kobe, I like him personally, but he ain't reppin my city so don't use that as an argument. My issue with LeBron wasn't him leaving, it's the fact that he demanded that lame ass 1 hour special and shat all over the city and team that made him. Like I said, I don't agree with what either did, but at least Melo is giving them a warning and giving them a chance to acquire some talent, unlike LeBron who left his team in the dark all off season only to leave.
Like I said, that's the only reason people act like it was so bad because he built it up so much. I never said he wasn't egotistical.
& also like I said, Melo is giving them a warning; but Denver can't get much from the Knicks, so Denver is still inevitably fucked.
& ALSO like I said, even if LeBron gave them "warning" (if that was even possible), they had no alternative; they'd be in the same situation. He couldn't be traded prior to last year because why could the Cavs trade him after a 60+ win season; he was their best chance of winning. People knew all of last season & the season before that, that he was either leaving or staying. Then even if he IMMIDIATLEY told them that he was leaving after they lost, the Cavs STILL couldn't do anything about it. They, like the Nuggets will soon be, were inevitably fucked.
Ken Griffey Jr was Seattle's biggest superstar and essentially saved the Mariners from going the same route as the Sonics, but when he wanted to be traded (last season in his contract before free agency) he straight up told the front office that he wanted out. As much as that pissed me off as a Mariners fan, in retrospect, I'm glad he told the team that, cause we made the playoffs the next two years with Mike Cameron playing all star ball and other players we got in the trade contributing. I know that we're talking different sports but I'm only making the point that if a player wants out, then you trade him and get what you can. Even if the trade isn't great, it's a hell of a lot better than thinking a guy is gonna resign only to have him leave the team, especially in an egotistical way like LeBron did.
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I don't give a shit what people think about Kobe, I like him personally, but he ain't reppin my city so don't use that as an argument. My issue with LeBron wasn't him leaving, it's the fact that he demanded that lame ass 1 hour special and shat all over the city and team that made him. Like I said, I don't agree with what either did, but at least Melo is giving them a warning and giving them a chance to acquire some talent, unlike LeBron who left his team in the dark all off season only to leave.
Like I said, that's the only reason people act like it was so bad because he built it up so much. I never said he wasn't egotistical.
& also like I said, Melo is giving them a warning; but Denver can't get much from the Knicks, so Denver is still inevitably fucked.
& ALSO like I said, even if LeBron gave them "warning" (if that was even possible), they had no alternative; they'd be in the same situation. He couldn't be traded prior to last year because why could the Cavs trade him after a 60+ win season; he was their best chance of winning. People knew all of last season & the season before that, that he was either leaving or staying. Then even if he IMMIDIATLEY told them that he was leaving after they lost, the Cavs STILL couldn't do anything about it. They, like the Nuggets will soon be, were inevitably fucked.
Ken Griffey Jr was Seattle's biggest superstar and essentially saved the Mariners from going the same route as the Sonics, but when he wanted to be traded (last season in his contract before free agency) he straight up told the front office that he wanted out. As much as that pissed me off as a Mariners fan, in retrospect, I'm glad he told the team that, cause we made the playoffs the next two years with Mike Cameron playing all star ball and other players we got in the trade contributing. I know that we're talking different sports but I'm only making the point that if a player wants out, then you trade him and get what you can. Even if the trade isn't great, it's a hell of a lot better than thinking a guy is gonna resign only to have him leave the team, especially in an egotistical way like LeBron did.
I guess, but there is no way LeBron was getting traded. The Cavs went into the season with expectations to win the Finals; even if it was up in the air about LeBron's future, they knew if they won the Finals he was going to likely stay. They were stuck between a rock & a hard place with the only option of winning the Finals to insure that he would come back.
All I'm saying is Free Agency happens every season in every sport & people come & go & nobody ever cares. It's "damn, great move by...'insert team here'". LeBron goes through Free Agency & it's like he did the unthinkable. Take away the hour special & it's your typical offseason pickup, just greater talent.
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if melo leaves to nyc lakers got teh west on lock, and i see clippers or grizzlies makin the playoffs
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i doubt this is going to happen, y leave the nuggets, they have a solid team.
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if melo leaves to nyc lakers got teh west on lock, and i see clippers or grizzlies makin the playoffs
as long as the refs still make calls LA is fine until they face Miami
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if melo leaves to nyc lakers got teh west on lock, and i see clippers or grizzlies makin the playoffs
as long as the refs still make calls LA is fine until they face Miami
For real, right? Melo & the Nuggets are zero threat to you guys.
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if melo leaves to nyc lakers got teh west on lock, and i see clippers or grizzlies makin the playoffs
as long as the refs still make calls LA is fine until they face Miami
actually... we got the refs against the Heat too... I mean Stern's wet dream is Kobe equaling MJ's record and then going for one more against LeBron and the Heat. Dude, Stern has had the refs set this up the whole time. I mean, why else you think LeBron tanked. Look for the Heat to not even make the finals this year, and the west to just get weaker for a 5th consecutive NBA Finals in 2012. Yeah buddy, Stern knows what's up.
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Heat didnt jus drop that much money 4 nuthin
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if melo leaves to nyc lakers got teh west on lock, and i see clippers or grizzlies makin the playoffs
as long as the refs still make calls LA is fine until they face Miami
actually... we got the refs against the Heat too... I mean Stern's wet dream is Kobe equaling MJ's record and then going for one more against LeBron and the Heat. Dude, Stern has had the refs set this up the whole time. I mean, why else you think LeBron tanked. Look for the Heat to not even make the finals this year, and the west to just get weaker for a 5th consecutive NBA Finals in 2012. Yeah buddy, Stern knows what's up.
LMAO