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Title: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: m-b on August 27, 2010, 06:51:34 AM
Oscar-nominated screenwriters Stephen J. Rivele and Chris Wilkinson (Ali, Nixon) have just been hired to write the Tupac Shakur biopic, which means the Antoine Fuqua-directed film could begin shooting by mid-November. (No cast yet; Fuqua is looking for an unknown to play the late rapper.) While the writing partners are known for adapting true lives and stories — they also worked on the Moneyball script, and an upcoming Jackie Robinson story — Wilkinson tells Vulture that the key to this script is an approach that “is not in any way biopic-y.”

That’s a big change in direction for the project. An initial draft written by Steven Bagatourian (2005's American Gun) was largely documentary in style, simply laying out the facts of the slain rapper-poet-actor's brief 25-year life. But Wilkinson says that their script will center on the last day of Tupac's life, flashing back to show the final four years leading up to it.

Rivele admits that "I knew nothing about [Shakur]" before diving into
research, but upon immersing himself in just about everything ever
written about the rapper, "it became clear that he was essentially a
19th century Romantic poet who found himself in the 21st century." To
the best of our knowledge, neither John Keats nor Samuel Coleridge did prison time for sex abuse or shot an off-duty cop in the buttocks, so we asked Rivele to clarify. "This is the story of an artist whose
character is at odds with his medium," explains Rivele, "He was a
really sensitive, very romantic, talented young poet who also could
sing, dance, and act. But the realities [of the hip-hop record business] were that he had to create this persona of the gangster."

Having been killed in a 1996 Las Vegas drive-by shooting, Shakur's
murder remains unsolved. But Rivele says their goal is not to show who killed Shakur, but rather why anyone would want to. "He was obviously very angry, and had been subjected to a great deal of violence at home, in the streets and in prison," says Rivele, "But he was just beginning to shed that anger and look for a purer voice...He was in the process of changing himself, and entering a new phase of his life — essentially a Romantic vision — and had set up a new label, and a new production company to create it. He saw the contradiction between the musicalpersona of 'Thug Life,' and his essential nature as a gentle, sensitive person. And that was partly responsible for his murder: He was not a gangster, but the people around him were. They saw he was going to leave, that they were going to lose him, and so I think they decided to kill him."
Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: RoscoeOutlaw on August 27, 2010, 07:09:00 AM
sounds interesting!
Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: wardy on August 27, 2010, 07:14:33 AM
Is this film being endorsed by Afeni Shakur? If it is i will be looking forward to watching this as one thing with her on board there will be no bullshit rubbish in there as she won't allow it.
Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: DJ ACE CAPONE on August 27, 2010, 08:38:13 AM
How many of thee movies do I have to sit through? How much will they milk of of this guys name?
Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: MarshColin on August 27, 2010, 08:58:11 AM
Wow they got some guy that knows nothing about 2pac to make this movie and before it even comes out he is saying he thinks Suge & Death Row had Pac killed which we all know is bullshit. 2Pac got caught up in a gang feud. End of story.
Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: Stashh on August 27, 2010, 09:17:00 AM
pac was gang related they should stop the bs
Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: Davizz on August 27, 2010, 10:41:07 AM
Sounds interesting, Afeni betta stay out of this.
Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: V2DHeart on August 27, 2010, 11:09:55 AM
Stallones movie about the murders would have been one I'd have been interested in. You know he wouldn't put out a load of rubbish
Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on August 27, 2010, 11:14:12 AM
Sounds interesting the way they are going to do it but not sure about the whole suge killed him angle !
Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: papa-smurf on August 27, 2010, 01:55:11 PM
this gonna be bullshit.pac got killed by the dude they jumped in the motel.just by the guy going off opion and not facts tell me laready that the film gonna be bullshit.
Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: Unforgivable by Sean John on August 27, 2010, 02:06:59 PM
And that was partly responsible for his murder: He was not a gangster, but the people around him were. They saw he was going to leave, that they were going to lose him, and so I think they decided to kill him."

That just doesn't sound plausible. I think what's much more likely is that 2Pac had BEEF with gang members, and they killed him over BEEF, not over him wanting to leave behind a thuggish lifestyle.
Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: Jimmy H. on August 27, 2010, 02:34:02 PM
Is this film being endorsed by Afeni Shakur? If it is i will be looking forward to watching this as one thing with her on board there will be no bullshit rubbish in there as she won't allow it.
It would most likekly have to be. Shakur's Estate is very gung-ho about not allowing unauthorized projects to come out and if they are making a movie about his life, they would need that blessing.

I'm on the fence about a biopic. If done right, it could be interesting but I really don't need another "Notorious". I think "Resurrection" was the best possible and most creative outlet in terms of telling Tupac's story.
Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: V2DHeart on August 28, 2010, 01:50:10 AM
There's no way this is coming out. Amaru can't even get organised for Live 2 Tell
Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 28, 2010, 07:29:24 AM
Lol @ they decided 2 kill him
Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: dexter on August 28, 2010, 09:05:08 AM
And that was partly responsible for his murder: He was not a gangster, but the people around him were. They saw he was going to leave, that they were going to lose him, and so I think they decided to kill him."

That just doesn't sound plausible. I think what's much more likely is that 2Pac had BEEF with gang members, and they killed him over BEEF, not over him wanting to leave behind a thuggish lifestyle.
Pac got killed because he was Second Rate
Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: V2DHeart on August 28, 2010, 02:08:26 PM
And that was partly responsible for his murder: He was not a gangster, but the people around him were. They saw he was going to leave, that they were going to lose him, and so I think they decided to kill him."

That just doesn't sound plausible. I think what's much more likely is that 2Pac had BEEF with gang members, and they killed him over BEEF, not over him wanting to leave behind a thuggish lifestyle.
Pac got killed because he was Second Rate

He got killed because he was an idiot, and got caught up in the moment to try and solidify his image as a "gangster" rapper. He thought that he - with the company Death Row kept - could run up and smash a crip, who's uncle was high up and that he'd be untouchable with his company backing him, and they saw that 2Pac was easily the weakest link when it came to the gang thing, and easiest to get at without major retaliation. I know that his murder triggered a little war, and it was little but people need to let his murder go as a simple gang retaliation, and get rid of the Suge Knight conspiracy, or the government conspiracy. 2Pac wasn't the best political speaker. He let his emotion and passion get in the way and may have had a following but wouldn't be able to break down barriers in government
Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: Unforgivable by Sean John on August 28, 2010, 02:56:29 PM
And that was partly responsible for his murder: He was not a gangster, but the people around him were. They saw he was going to leave, that they were going to lose him, and so I think they decided to kill him."

That just doesn't sound plausible. I think what's much more likely is that 2Pac had BEEF with gang members, and they killed him over BEEF, not over him wanting to leave behind a thuggish lifestyle.
Pac got killed because he was Second Rate

He got killed because he was an idiot, and got caught up in the moment to try and solidify his image as a "gangster" rapper. He thought that he - with the company Death Row kept - could run up and smash a crip, who's uncle was high up and that he'd be untouchable with his company backing him, and they saw that 2Pac was easily the weakest link when it came to the gang thing, and easiest to get at without major retaliation. I know that his murder triggered a little war, and it was little but people need to let his murder go as a simple gang retaliation, and get rid of the Suge Knight conspiracy, or the government conspiracy. 2Pac wasn't the best political speaker. He let his emotion and passion get in the way and may have had a following but wouldn't be able to break down barriers in government

aight aight... interesting... but I thought they beat up Orlando Anderson because he snatched someone's death row chain? You are making it seem like they beat him up just for the sake of beating up a crip...

but also are you suggesting that Orlando Anderson just took out pac that same night? Like he got up, wiped the blood off his face, got in his car, then killed him?
it would seem more plausible that baby lane asked one of his boys to do it... and then checked himself into a hospital, haha.

and yea... i agree that it was the case that 2pac's bad side was ultimately what got him killed... he was a very intelligent man, who was intent on inspiring great ideas throughout the black community... but he had a bad side that was all about proving himself as a thug and fucking up his enemies. BTW it is my opinion that 2Pac had manic-depressive disorder... so that complicates things even more.
Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: krzieg on August 28, 2010, 05:41:39 PM
And that was partly responsible for his murder: He was not a gangster, but the people around him were. They saw he was going to leave, that they were going to lose him, and so I think they decided to kill him."

That just doesn't sound plausible. I think what's much more likely is that 2Pac had BEEF with gang members, and they killed him over BEEF, not over him wanting to leave behind a thuggish lifestyle.
Pac got killed because he was Second Rate

He got killed because he was an idiot, and got caught up in the moment to try and solidify his image as a "gangster" rapper. He thought that he - with the company Death Row kept - could run up and smash a crip, who's uncle was high up and that he'd be untouchable with his company backing him, and they saw that 2Pac was easily the weakest link when it came to the gang thing, and easiest to get at without major retaliation. I know that his murder triggered a little war, and it was little but people need to let his murder go as a simple gang retaliation, and get rid of the Suge Knight conspiracy, or the government conspiracy. 2Pac wasn't the best political speaker. He let his emotion and passion get in the way and may have had a following but wouldn't be able to break down barriers in government

aight aight... interesting... but I thought they beat up Orlando Anderson because he snatched someone's death row chain? You are making it seem like they beat him up just for the sake of beating up a crip...

but also are you suggesting that Orlando Anderson just took out pac that same night? Like he got up, wiped the blood off his face, got in his car, then killed him?
it would seem more plausible that baby lane asked one of his boys to do it... and then checked himself into a hospital, haha.

and yea... i agree that it was the case that 2pac's bad side was ultimately what got him killed... he was a very intelligent man, who was intent on inspiring great ideas throughout the black community... but he had a bad side that was all about proving himself as a thug and fucking up his enemies. BTW it is my opinion that 2Pac had manic-depressive disorder... so that complicates things even more.

it's well known that 2pac was killed by the crips and Orlando may or may not have been the shooter. But it was b/c Orlando wanted retaliation that 2pac was killed
Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: illuminutty on August 29, 2010, 04:49:36 AM
who cares....Dude is Dead for almost 14 Years.....
live on!!!!
Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 29, 2010, 08:18:06 AM
Cant hes westcoast savoir
Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: MarshColin on August 29, 2010, 09:50:33 AM
And that was partly responsible for his murder: He was not a gangster, but the people around him were. They saw he was going to leave, that they were going to lose him, and so I think they decided to kill him."

That just doesn't sound plausible. I think what's much more likely is that 2Pac had BEEF with gang members, and they killed him over BEEF, not over him wanting to leave behind a thuggish lifestyle.
Pac got killed because he was Second Rate

He got killed because he was an idiot, and got caught up in the moment to try and solidify his image as a "gangster" rapper. He thought that he - with the company Death Row kept - could run up and smash a crip, who's uncle was high up and that he'd be untouchable with his company backing him, and they saw that 2Pac was easily the weakest link when it came to the gang thing, and easiest to get at without major retaliation. I know that his murder triggered a little war, and it was little but people need to let his murder go as a simple gang retaliation, and get rid of the Suge Knight conspiracy, or the government conspiracy. 2Pac wasn't the best political speaker. He let his emotion and passion get in the way and may have had a following but wouldn't be able to break down barriers in government

Disagree with the easiest to get at without retalitation part of your post. There was a week long war in Compton after his death. I would hardly refer to that as a "little war." Everything else you said was pretty on point though.
Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: Muhfukka on August 29, 2010, 11:16:47 AM
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Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on August 29, 2010, 05:14:53 PM
And that was partly responsible for his murder: He was not a gangster, but the people around him were. They saw he was going to leave, that they were going to lose him, and so I think they decided to kill him."

That just doesn't sound plausible. I think what's much more likely is that 2Pac had BEEF with gang members, and they killed him over BEEF, not over him wanting to leave behind a thuggish lifestyle.
Pac got killed because he was Second Rate

He got killed because he was an idiot, and got caught up in the moment to try and solidify his image as a "gangster" rapper. He thought that he - with the company Death Row kept - could run up and smash a crip, who's uncle was high up and that he'd be untouchable with his company backing him, and they saw that 2Pac was easily the weakest link when it came to the gang thing, and easiest to get at without major retaliation. I know that his murder triggered a little war, and it was little but people need to let his murder go as a simple gang retaliation, and get rid of the Suge Knight conspiracy, or the government conspiracy. 2Pac wasn't the best political speaker. He let his emotion and passion get in the way and may have had a following but wouldn't be able to break down barriers in government

Disagree with the easiest to get at without retalitation part of your post. There was a week long war in Compton after his death. I would hardly refer to that as a "little war." Everything else you said was pretty on point though.

Was there???
Title: Re: New Tupac Shakur Biopic Will Answer Why He Was Killed, If Not By Whom
Post by: Sikotic™ on August 29, 2010, 07:12:01 PM
Me and Pac were playing X-Box at the crib last week.