West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: phatj on September 03, 2010, 11:22:44 AM
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snoop is gonna ruin the the little bit of legacy he's still got from DOGGYSTYLE.snoop is a pop/hip hop artist not RAPPER anymore after he destroys his legacy then hopefully he retires.we all no it wont be a west coast album it will feat whoevers popular.he has fredwreck,battlecat,daz,soopafly for in house produces,but use garbage ass producers.what a joke he don't care about his TRUE FANS from 1992.if it weren't for the chronic & DOGGYSTYLE,Who would really like SNOOP no one.
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A lot of fallen artists always resort to renaming their "classic" epic or groundbreaking album as a sequel because they themselves know they have fallen off
The album will suck anyway
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this is great,and if snoop is not apart of the west how many legit stars will we have to rep the coast? i mean he tried to get dre but y'all know how he is, i wouldn't call the album doggystyle 2 but i wouldn't mind him going bacc to that content in it's raw form yell
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this is great,and if snoop is not apart of the west how many legit stars will we have to rep the coast? i mean he tried to get dre but y'all know how he is, i wouldn't call the album doggystyle 2 but i wouldn't mind him going bacc to that content in it's raw form yell
Thats what we're all saying genius. We would all love a dope album from Snoop but its probably not going to happen. He's abandoned his fanbase in hopes of getting the teeny boppers to buy his shit and neither side is happy (hints his last few albums beeing the lowest selling). So if he's not going to be able to produce great music that we all want to hear (more Last Meal / Top Dogg esque and less R&G / MIW ish) - then why taint the Doggystyle name with it?
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The man wants to leave a legacy of providing enough money so his family wont have to worry about money for generations, not impress some wiggerfags living in a gangsta fantasy life.
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Why is it always up to the artists to rep the coast and hand over torches? I think a lot of people forget that all these OG's from the late 80's/early 90's were over-run by younger West Coast rappers WITHOUT their hand. The radio's, magazines, and media overall have a bigger part to play, as well as the labels playing a bigger part.
This album is nothing more than to ride of the success and legacy of the original Doggystyle to make some extra cash, and it's sad that Snoop is resorting to this route. Why ruin such a classic title when you know fine well that your talent has declined?
Money over reputation for Snoop
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LOL @ these niggaz thinking Doggy 2 is gonna ruin the original. How the fuck is that gonna ruin the original? The Original is there regardless of what he drops. You can say "he's taking the name and ruining it" but the fucking name isn't what made the album great. It was the tracks. So unless he Remixes the Album and stops the OG from sells, then the original is fucked. Doggystyle 2 is just gonna be a POS album.
I mean the original has been out since 1993, So there is no way this shit is effecting the original in any way. If anything if people read the comparisons (Which will happen do to the name) they'll check the original because the original is always gonna win. It's just a classic.
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Co sign.
I didn't know Doggystyle 2 wasn't gonna be a westcoast album, is that a fact?
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The man wants to leave a legacy of providing enough money so his family wont have to worry about money for generations, not impress some wiggerfags living in a gangsta fantasy life.
But to recieve royalty payments, they have to come from albums that still sell well in his catalog. Unfortunatly for Snoop, that doesn't come from MIW, or Ego Trippin, it comes from the likes of Doggystyle, Last Meal and so
LOL @ these niggaz thinking Doggy 2 is gonna ruin the original. How the fuck is that gonna ruin the original? The Original is there regardless of what he drops. You can say "he's taking the name and ruining it" but the fucking name isn't what made the album great. It was the tracks. So unless he Remixes the Album and stops the OG from sells, then the original is fucked. Doggystyle 2 is just gonna be a POS album.
I mean the original has been out since 1993, So there is no way this shit is effecting the original in any way. If anything if people read the comparisons (Which will happen do to the name) they'll check the original because the original is always gonna win. It's just a classic.
Well it kind of does in a way have a ripple effect. People with a consistent release of music in their career - people can go and buy any one of their albums and be left with a good impression to purchase more. However if Snoop releases an album in his current state under the title of Doggystyle, then a new generation of fans may think that a part 2 will resemble or better the original, and purchase part 2 being the more current as their first Snoop release, and either hate it or like it for a pop 5 minute moment filler (like all his latest attempts) and may not even bother to purchase the original despite it's reputation, because in the current internet days of music and news, the newer Doggystyle will be all over the net, promoted and bigged up as a great album making the younger audiences think "Hmmmm, It was alright, but I thnk I'll pass on buying the original. Besides, it's almost 10 years old"..
People may pass on the 93 Doggystyle, thinking Doggystyle part 2 will reflect or be similar to the original. It wont stop us older generations here, but it wont help boost sales for the original either. That's why these artists need to re-promote the product rather than try to re-create it
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The man wants to leave a legacy of providing enough money so his family wont have to worry about money for generations, not impress some wiggerfags living in a gangsta fantasy life.
Doggystyle is easily his biggest selling album - 6 mill
All the others are under 2 mill
Last decent selling album was BCT
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But Snoop doesn't have a piece of Doggystyle's publishing so those sales do him no good. Thing with a Doggystyle 2 is you need to get your fanbase happy with that one because that's it for you. The moment you tell them you're dropping a sequel to that album, they're gonna expect a level of quality there and if you don't get it right, you can't ever sell something like that again at the same value. I think he should hold off this one and call in that favor when Dre need him on Detox and see if they can work it again.
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Either English isn't his first language or he is 11.
STFU with that "Doggystyle 2 is gonna ruin the original Doggystyle". What kind of retard statement is that, you wigger fuck?
I almost forgot why I avoided this section.
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this is great,and if snoop is not apart of the west how many legit stars will we have to rep the coast? i mean he tried to get dre but y'all know how he is, i wouldn't call the album doggystyle 2 but i wouldn't mind him going bacc to that content in it's raw form yell
Thats what we're all saying genius. We would all love a dope album from Snoop but its probably not going to happen. He's abandoned his fanbase in hopes of getting the teeny boppers to buy his shit and neither side is happy (hints his last few albums beeing the lowest selling). So if he's not going to be able to produce great music that we all want to hear (more Last Meal / Top Dogg esque and less R&G / MIW ish) - then why taint the Doggystyle name with it?
i can ride with that,i just don't think he should need dre to be dope,or quik or none of them,but you equals here fo some reason think if only those people are on the album then it can be good, i just say give me the doggy style content with different producers it really ain't that hard to do yell
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The man wants to leave a legacy of providing enough money so his family wont have to worry about money for generations, not impress some wiggerfags living in a gangsta fantasy life.
oh im sorry is he broke now????
lmao
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The man wants to leave a legacy of providing enough money so his family wont have to worry about money for generations, not impress some wiggerfags living in a gangsta fantasy life.
Doggystyle is easily his biggest selling album - 6 mill
All the others are under 2 mill
Last decent selling album was BCT
i'm pretty sure r&g sold 3 millions to this day
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this is great,and if snoop is not apart of the west how many legit stars will we have to rep the coast? i mean he tried to get dre but y'all know how he is, i wouldn't call the album doggystyle 2 but i wouldn't mind him going bacc to that content in it's raw form yell
Thats what we're all saying genius. We would all love a dope album from Snoop but its probably not going to happen. He's abandoned his fanbase in hopes of getting the teeny boppers to buy his shit and neither side is happy (hints his last few albums beeing the lowest selling). So if he's not going to be able to produce great music that we all want to hear (more Last Meal / Top Dogg esque and less R&G / MIW ish) - then why taint the Doggystyle name with it?
i can ride with that,i just don't think he should need dre to be dope,or quik or none of them,but you equals here fo some reason think if only those people are on the album then it can be good, i just say give me the doggy style content with different producers it really ain't that hard to do yell
my fault to interject. but about the content i see what you're saying but Snoop would definitely have to polish it up a little bit. the producers i could see Snoop working well with on this project for what he's trying to attempt here is Dr. Dre & The HitMen. Remember, records back then all had their own sound to it (mainly due to tha fact that it was produced by the same group of people all thru out tha album). But other than them two Snoop really wouldn't need anybody else, it would just sound OuttaPlace, Corny, or Below the Above.
I guess they could throw some guest producers in to help with the sound, like Daz, Scoop DeVille maybe, Sam Sneed maybe, and Soopafly but other than that there really shouldn't be anybody else touching that album. Not CrazyTunes, Not DJ Quik, Not Terrace Martin, Not Swizz Beatz (even when he's having his moment), Not Battlecat, Not Cold187um, Not Warren G, not anybody else.
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I dont get why some of you guys talk about Swizz Beats like he was a new comer, dude been around since the late 90s been dropping hits ever since.. dude aint no rookie... this section of the forum is getting wack
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Jimmy who owns publishin 4 first doggystyle?
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I dont think Swizz Beatz is wack but him being Snoop Doggs new Pharrell aint exactly a good idea, they dont have that chemistry like that, like Game and Pharrell. Its only probably cuz Swizz got married, now the locked down husbands gotta find sumthing to do lol. Id go as far as a mixtape of nuthin but tha best cuts out that 18 and thats it. Pressing that one up could go either way. It could either be very great or very shitty.
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Doggystyle East..
I think everyone would rather see Snoop work with Dre, Daz, Warren G, & Soopafly but Snoop rather follow the trends now rather than set them.
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seems like everyone in here knows what real music is, but these billionaires just aint getting it. i mean if they had half the knowledge you had then shit would be off the hook !..... 8)
fuckin clowns.
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seems like everyone in here knows what real music is, but these billionaires just aint getting it. i mean if they had half the knowledge you had then shit would be off the hook !..... 8)
fuckin clowns.
so, money = good music ? by that logic lady gaga ,rihanna and britney are fucking great . and puffy too.
talking bout fucking clowns...
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I would like to see Snoop just creating solid tracks. He is obviously capable of creating good tracks, but for every album he get's shittier and shittier.
Why would you like to see Snoop working with Warren G, Soopafly and Daz? IMO none of them has created something stellar in years.
My advice to Snoop would be: Get one or two NEW producers who got the hunger, the passion and the skills to create something awesome to handle the project. Remember when Doggystyle came out, the G-funk sound was FRESH, it's not fresh anymore. To create something unique and on the same level of originality of the first Doggystyle, you need some fresh input.