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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: IRAN iz Gangsta! on September 09, 2010, 03:06:09 PM
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US is playing Lithuania in the semis and Turkey is playing Serbia
games are held in Turkey, both US and Turkey are the undefeated teams so far.....argentina got upset by Lithuania today, Scola has been the leading scorer
http://turkey2010.fiba.com/pages/esp/fe/10/fwcm/p/index.html
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Surprised nobody is commenting on this. Been a great WC so far imo. Serbia vs. Turkey was crazy shit. We're definitely up for a great finale, Turkey are pretty much the only team that have a chance of beating USA with the whole nation supporting them.
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It's been a good tournament so far. Can't wait for turkey vs USA. Gonna be a great clash!
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Surprised nobody is commenting on this. Been a great WC so far imo. Serbia vs. Turkey was crazy shit. We're definitely up for a great finale, Turkey are pretty much the only team that have a chance of beating USA with the whole nation supporting them.
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you guys must live outside of the us of a. why do we not care? BECAUSE IT'S THE OPENING SUNDAY FOR THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE
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Even though I generally hate watching Durant because of the fact that he got stolen from my city, this team is fun to watch.
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and what's the thanks them niggas gon get for this? barely anyone of them will get minutes during the 2012 olyimpics xD
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and what's the thanks them niggas gon get for this? barely anyone of them will get minutes during the 2012 olyimpics xD
i'm sure they get some kind of award lol
anyways it's hilarious....20,000 people from outsite of the US voted on this game on ESPN.com and 89% picked Turkey to win. what a bunch of morons.
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and what's the thanks them niggas gon get for this? barely anyone of them will get minutes during the 2012 olyimpics xD
i'm sure they get some kind of award lol
anyways it's hilarious....20,000 people from outsite of the US voted on this game on ESPN.com and 89% picked Turkey to win. what a bunch of morons.
turkeys, underdog-supporters and haters.... not morons. :laugh:
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durant is sick! cant hate on the guy
turkey was a good team but i think they needed okur, the big man against US. I actually think the teams in the semis; serbia, lithuania, turkey werent better than teams like greece, spain and argentina, those teams wouldve been more of a challenge.
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you guys must live outside of the us of a. why do we not care? BECAUSE IT'S THE OPENING SUNDAY FOR THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE
yes i know its too much for u guys to handle more than one thing at a time
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Props to the US for pulling it off. I got mad respect for Durant...last year that Seattle was here I won a raffle lottery, showed up 3 hours early to the key with courtside tickets, and he came over to my seat, invited me on the court, and introduced me to the entire roster/coacing staff. Much love to Durant, but the Thunder can burn in hell. Fuck Seattle Government, Fuck Clay Bennet, Fuck Howard Shultz, and fuck all yall that thought Seattle couldn't support a basketball team. We were never at the bottom 50th% in terms of attendice, it was all lies y'all. Fuck yall I'm out
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It's not even fair. We sent the B-Team & won lol.
It's Coach K, he's too good.
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Duran-chilla killin em...thunder got a dope player
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Duran-chilla killin em...thunder got a dope player
Fuck you.
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Who the fuck cares about this nonsense
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you guys must live outside of the us of a. why do we not care? BECAUSE IT'S THE OPENING SUNDAY FOR THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE
yes i know its too much for u guys to handle more than one thing at a time
you live in Iran and you're on an American forum dissing Americans?
lmao wow
anyways football > basketball ESPECIALLY a basketball game that means nothing to us because we already know we're the best country
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Remedy wut up baby girl...u mad bitch? Lol
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^Nothin personal, but anyone who ups the Thunder gets a fuck you from the Remedy.
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Who the fuck cares about this nonsense
you do cuz you're posting here
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Dont confront queens bitch like that...lol
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Dont confront queens bitch like that...lol
i don't even know who that is lol
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The queen, the stalker, the snitch, the leader of the new school bitches small queen petey...my bitch catch u n a lil bit...u mean the site...u mean the site...u mean the site....follow me this way bitch
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any one who hates enyca now is in my "gang"(http://dachillspot.19.forumer.com/images/smiles/dachillspot/xzibit123.gif)
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I seem to recall a certain infamous poster on here, one who repeatedly refers to himself as more knowledgeable than pretty much everyone, who insisted Danny Grainger was better than Kevin Durant...
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Back when everyone was sayin durant will b a beast i didnt buy into it but damn hes makin headlines from last season and on fareal
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you guys must live outside of the us of a. why do we not care? BECAUSE IT'S THE OPENING SUNDAY FOR THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE
yes i know its too much for u guys to handle more than one thing at a time
you live in Iran and you're on an American forum dissing Americans?
lmao wow
anyways football > basketball ESPECIALLY a basketball game that means nothing to us because we already know we're the best country
why didn't you guys won a world cup for the last 12 years than?
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have you not noticed we only send our A team for the olmypics?
we sent a team over there in Fiba without Kobe, Lebron or D-wade and still waxed the world's asses
football > baseball > basketball in terms of importance in US btw
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you guys must live outside of the us of a. why do we not care? BECAUSE IT'S THE OPENING SUNDAY FOR THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE
yes i know its too much for u guys to handle more than one thing at a time
you live in Iran and you're on an American forum dissing Americans?
lmao wow
anyways football > basketball ESPECIALLY a basketball game that means nothing to us because we already know we're the best country
I live in california you dumb fuck, I'm on this forum cuz i like west coast hip hop, I just check this sub forum just to get a laugh out of you fools.
I also know more about these sports than you do cuz your brain can only handle 1 thing at a time. US has been sending their A squad in the past and they lost last world cup to Greece. Also this year, other teams missed their stars too such as ginobili, gasol, kirilenko, okur, nene and more...
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you guys must live outside of the us of a. why do we not care? BECAUSE IT'S THE OPENING SUNDAY FOR THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE
yes i know its too much for u guys to handle more than one thing at a time
you live in Iran and you're on an American forum dissing Americans?
lmao wow
anyways football > basketball ESPECIALLY a basketball game that means nothing to us because we already know we're the best country
I live in california you dumb fuck, I'm on this forum cuz i like west coast hip hop, I just check this sub forum just to get a laugh out of you fools.
I also know more about these sports than you do cuz your brain can only handle 1 thing at a time. US has been sending their A squad in the past and they lost last world cup to Greece. Also this year, other teams missed their stars too such as ginobili, gasol, kirilenko, okur, nene and more...
LOL, this guy.
You can take any five players from anywhere in the world, besides the US & you cannot physically beat...
PG - Chris Paul
SG - Kobe Bryant
SF - LeBron James
PF - Chris Bosh
C - Dwight Howard
WITH D-Wade & Melo coming off the bench. Fuck country vs. country; you couldn't beat that team US vs. World lol.
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you guys must live outside of the us of a. why do we not care? BECAUSE IT'S THE OPENING SUNDAY FOR THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE
yes i know its too much for u guys to handle more than one thing at a time
you live in Iran and you're on an American forum dissing Americans?
lmao wow
anyways football > basketball ESPECIALLY a basketball game that means nothing to us because we already know we're the best country
I live in california you dumb fuck, I'm on this forum cuz i like west coast hip hop, I just check this sub forum just to get a laugh out of you fools.
I also know more about these sports than you do cuz your brain can only handle 1 thing at a time. US has been sending their A squad in the past and they lost last world cup to Greece. Also this year, other teams missed their stars too such as ginobili, gasol, kirilenko, okur, nene and more...
That team that lost in Greece was lead by a bunch of inexperienced players and didn't have the veteran leadership they needed. Put Kobe, Dwade, LeBron, Melo, Bosh, Cp3 etc on a team and nobody is gonna beat them, straight up.
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you guys must live outside of the us of a. why do we not care? BECAUSE IT'S THE OPENING SUNDAY FOR THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE
yes i know its too much for u guys to handle more than one thing at a time
you live in Iran and you're on an American forum dissing Americans?
lmao wow
anyways football > basketball ESPECIALLY a basketball game that means nothing to us because we already know we're the best country
I live in california you dumb fuck, I'm on this forum cuz i like west coast hip hop, I just check this sub forum just to get a laugh out of you fools.
I also know more about these sports than you do cuz your brain can only handle 1 thing at a time. US has been sending their A squad in the past and they lost last world cup to Greece. Also this year, other teams missed their stars too such as ginobili, gasol, kirilenko, okur, nene and more...
LOL, this guy.
You can take any five players from anywhere in the world, besides the US & you cannot physically beat...
PG - Chris Paul
SG - Kobe Bryant
SF - LeBron James
PF - Chris Bosh
C - Dwight Howard
WITH D-Wade & Melo coming off the bench. Fuck country vs. country; you couldn't beat that team US vs. World lol.
physically? lol when did basketball became a physical contact sport? more like a 0 contact
anyway, no ones saying US is NOT the best team, they are and thats because of all the money and years they've put into it. Its one of the top 3 sports here so alot of people go for it and the opportunities are there. Basketball is not as popular around the world, which is why now its starting to pick up now, give those countries the same situation with the amount of opportunities and they'll be up there.
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^Absolutely not.
I'm White, but I can admit Blacks are just more gifted atheletes. No other country in the World has the atheticism to stick with the players I named; it's not possible.
Hence why the league is 95% Black.
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first off iran you butt hurt
second off the US made some poooor efforts in '04 and '06
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^Absolutely not.
I'm White, but I can admit Blacks are just more gifted atheletes. No other country in the World has the atheticism to stick with the players I named; it's not possible.
Hence why the league is 95% Black.
so when is only 8% of baseball black?
it's all about what you choose to play...the best white athletes are playing baseball and football except for Steve Nash lol
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^Absolutely not.
I'm White, but I can admit Blacks are just more gifted atheletes. No other country in the World has the atheticism to stick with the players I named; it's not possible.
Hence why the league is 95% Black.
so when is only 8% of baseball black?
it's all about what you choose to play...the best white athletes are playing baseball and football except for Steve Nash lol
Yeah, but look at Dustin Pedroia, he couldn't play Basketball & nobody in the NBA could play second base for a Major League team lol.
You don't need to have amazing leaping ability, insane speed & be 6'8'' to make it in the majors; plus Baseball is much more of a skill game, you can't compete off of pure athleticism; where in Basketball a guy like Wade or LeBron can dominate just playing off pure athleticism.
Football, a majority of the white players are offensive linemen & QB's; one requires zero athleticism & the being QB is the most skillful position on the field that needs to be managed by a skilled person. Where RB, MLB, SS, CB, WR can all be successful just based off of pure athleticism. AP can't even hold on to the ball, but he's so above every other running back in his build, he can get away with that.
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^Absolutely not.
I'm White, but I can admit Blacks are just more gifted atheletes. No other country in the World has the atheticism to stick with the players I named; it's not possible.
Hence why the league is 95% Black.
so when is only 8% of baseball black?
it's all about what you choose to play...the best white athletes are playing baseball and football except for Steve Nash lol
LOL, be real man. If a player isn't a QB or a lineman chances are he's black.
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^Absolutely not.
I'm White, but I can admit Blacks are just more gifted atheletes. No other country in the World has the atheticism to stick with the players I named; it's not possible.
Hence why the league is 95% Black.
so when is only 8% of baseball black?
it's all about what you choose to play...the best white athletes are playing baseball and football except for Steve Nash lol
LOL, be real man. If a player isn't a QB or a lineman chances are he's black.
Exactly. With the occasional Middle Lineback like Urlacher or Brian Cushing lol.
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^Absolutely not.
I'm White, but I can admit Blacks are just more gifted atheletes. No other country in the World has the atheticism to stick with the players I named; it's not possible.
Hence why the league is 95% Black.
so when is only 8% of baseball black?
it's all about what you choose to play...the best white athletes are playing baseball and football except for Steve Nash lol
LOL, be real man. If a player isn't a QB or a lineman chances are he's black.
Wes Welker says hi
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^Absolutely not.
I'm White, but I can admit Blacks are just more gifted atheletes. No other country in the World has the atheticism to stick with the players I named; it's not possible.
Hence why the league is 95% Black.
so then why isn't AFRICA the best in every sport? ::)
athletisim has nothing to do with race, its about how much time and effort you put towards it. Black culture in america promotes sports and entertainment, therefore many of their kids go that route, as opposed to asians in america promote school and studying so most their kids go that route.
by the way, look at the recent wrestling world championship, US sent bunch of big ass black guys there they didnt win shit..lol...even korea and china did better than them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_World_Wrestling_Championships
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^Where did I say every sport? Some sports it doesn't pay to be tall, buff & muscular, like Baseball or Soccer or Golf or Wrestling.
But in Football & Basketball it does & it has to do with race lmfao. Name me a race of people that are overall as a race more athletic then Blacks...lol.
I don't mean athletic like, having good control of your body, I mean like physically dominating athletic.
& being Black doesn't mean you're purely African. I'd say most people in the NBA aren't straight up African, they are from African decent.
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^Where did I say every sport? Some sports it doesn't pay to be tall, buff & muscular, like Baseball or Soccer or Golf or Wrestling.
But in Football & Basketball it does & it has to do with race lmfao. Name me a race of people that are overall as a race more athletic then Blacks...lol.
I don't mean athletic like, having good control of your body, I mean like physically dominating athletic.
& being Black doesn't mean you're purely African. I'd say most people in the NBA aren't straight up African, they are from African decent.
u dont know anything about soccer so we'll leave it alone but....
what a dumb ass, WRESTLING doesnt require muscles?? LOL do u watch MMA or UFC?? the most successful guys are wrestlers
so some skinny ass basketball players are stronger than these guys right?
(http://old.armymwr.com/images/news/0878-DremielByersVsTimothyTaylor.jpg)
(http://www.amateurwrestlingphotos.com/spotlight/wtt03_files/lowney-ruiz.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/2743393840_78b42c7077.jpg)
(http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/070924/pb_twisp_070924_07_hood.photoblog900.jpg)
(http://www.payvand.com/news/09/mar/2009-World-Freestyle-Wrestling-Tehran7.jpg)
(http://www.payvand.com/news/04/aug/alireza-heidari.jpg)
and these ^^^ fools are NATURALLY RIPPED, not that steroid shit american athletes are on
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^LOL, naturally ripped? You act like they aren't in the gym working out 24/7. But I personally guarentee you that they couldn't play a sport. Not one.
& none of those guys are athletic in the sense that they can jump high, run fast, have control of their feet to juke or stop on a dime; you're talking out of you ass about wrestling. Sure it's a sport, but it's for muscle heads, who aren't physically dominating to play basketball.
I'm just going off of what I hear, but isn't the best player in Europe that guy on Greece? He's supposedly an amazing passer & shooter? I've seen highlights of him on Youtube & he doesn't come close to being the type of physically dominating athlete that LeBron James, Kobe Bryant or Dwayne Wade are. & PLEASE, show me one white European center that is built like Dwight Howard lmfao.
& you're doing a great job of naturally getting off topic because I think you know you're wrong. Bottom line, you can't find five players world-wide that would beat the players previously mentioned for the US. The topic is Basketball, not wrestling; something that is more popular when faked like the WWE, then the actual thing.
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^Where did I say every sport? Some sports it doesn't pay to be tall, buff & muscular, like Baseball or Soccer or Golf or Wrestling.
But in Football & Basketball it does & it has to do with race lmfao. Name me a race of people that are overall as a race more athletic then Blacks...lol.
I don't mean athletic like, having good control of your body, I mean like physically dominating athletic.
& being Black doesn't mean you're purely African. I'd say most people in the NBA aren't straight up African, they are from African decent.
u dont know anything about soccer so we'll leave it alone but....
what a dumb ass, WRESTLING doesnt require muscles?? LOL do u watch MMA or UFC?? the most successful guys are wrestlers
so some skinny ass basketball players are stronger than these guys right?
(http://old.armymwr.com/images/news/0878-DremielByersVsTimothyTaylor.jpg)
(http://www.amateurwrestlingphotos.com/spotlight/wtt03_files/lowney-ruiz.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/2743393840_78b42c7077.jpg)
(http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/070924/pb_twisp_070924_07_hood.photoblog900.jpg)
(http://www.payvand.com/news/09/mar/2009-World-Freestyle-Wrestling-Tehran7.jpg)
(http://www.payvand.com/news/04/aug/alireza-heidari.jpg)
and these ^^^ fools are NATURALLY RIPPED, not that steroid shit american athletes are on
I'm glad you used Wrestling as to back your argument considering the fact that so many people care about it.
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u guys contradict urself over and over and its cuz u dont know sports besides the few that u follow so theres no possible way u can comprehend other stuff
its ok back to ur fantasy world boys :-*
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u guys contradict urself over and over and its cuz u dont know sports besides the few that u follow so theres no possible way u can comprehend other stuff
its ok back to ur fantasy world boys :-*
When did I contradict myself? Fantasy world? So you're saying since I don't follow amateur wrestling I'm living in a "fanstasy world?"
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u guys contradict urself over and over and its cuz u dont know sports besides the few that u follow so theres no possible way u can comprehend other stuff
its ok back to ur fantasy world boys :-*
When did I contradict myself? Fantasy world? So you're saying since I don't follow amateur wrestling I'm living in a "fanstasy world?"
For real. I could do a live webcam of me jerking off & I'd have more people watching it than people do amateur wrestling LMFAO.
Back to the topic at hand, Iran. Please name me five international players what can beat LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Chris Paul, Melo, Dwight Howard, Dwayne Wade & Chris Bosh..?
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u guys contradict urself over and over and its cuz u dont know sports besides the few that u follow so theres no possible way u can comprehend other stuff
its ok back to ur fantasy world boys :-*
When did I contradict myself? Fantasy world? So you're saying since I don't follow amateur wrestling I'm living in a "fanstasy world?"
u miss the whole point, it wasnt about wrestling...homeboy said wrestling is not a physical sport and i showed a few pix to prove to him that wrestles are the toughest athletes out there
its not AMATEUR wrestling, its PROFESSIONAL...what do u call pro wrestling? WWE? lol
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u guys contradict urself over and over and its cuz u dont know sports besides the few that u follow so theres no possible way u can comprehend other stuff
its ok back to ur fantasy world boys :-*
When did I contradict myself? Fantasy world? So you're saying since I don't follow amateur wrestling I'm living in a "fanstasy world?"
For real. I could do a live webcam of me jerking off & I'd have more people watching it than people do amateur wrestling LMFAO.
Back to the topic at hand, Iran. Please name me five international players what can beat LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Chris Paul, Melo, Dwight Howard, Dwayne Wade & Chris Bosh..?
u keep twisting the argument around. U said something like basketball players are strongest athletes and proved u wrong. Sports such as swimming, cycling, soccer, rugby are all way more physically demanding than basketball. But ur fooled by the image of basketball players; tall, dunks, thumping chest, etc....thats not power. Basketball is a finese sport, hardly any contact, if theres contact its a foul.
And i never said US basketball is not best, i posted this thread! lol...obviously i like US basketball and they are the best in the world but due to their TACTICS, its not what u claim to be as if americans are just gifted and rest of the world is not.
Then u mentioned blacks being best athletes, well i proved u wrong again. American blacks dont represent all black in the world. If that was the case, africans would be the best atheletes in most sports but they're not. Sure there are tons of good african soccer players, etc....but they're not necessarily the best. Blacks in america were cream of the crop, when slave traders brought blacks here they chose the best and strongest so obviously after generations of being in America and being trained under the best sport PROGRAMS out there, they are bound to become good athletes.
Thats why u need to admit if the rest of the world had the same INFRASTRUCTURE and sport PROGRAMS as US did then you'd have alot more competition.
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^I think you're getting it twisted. I'm not saying that Blacks are the best athletes in the world & the best players. They might not be the best players in every sport, but physically, they are a more naturally gifted race than any other.
It's sterotypical, but they can run faster, jump higher, etc. than your average person of another race. Stronger calf muscles, but that doesn't mean they are the best at every sport. Just Basketball & Football because those are two sports that can be off of pure athleticism, especially the jumping & running side of it.
There are some amazing, Black Baseball players, but the American Black culture doesn't play Baseball as much as the other two. If you're a gifted enough athlete, Blacks go more for Football & Basketball because those sports allow their natural, pure athleticism to do a majority of the work, whereas Baseball you need amazing hand-eye coordination & other skills that need more input than just raw athletic ability.
You're confusing athleticism with being a good player. There are Black people that are 6'5'', 210 pounds that aren't gifted with the skills to play Basketball, but that doesn't mean the guy isn't a good athlete; his body type is still impressive. But when you have the skills to be World Class in a sport & now you have added, naturally gifted athleticism, now you have the full package; hence why American, NBA players are all better than everybody else in the rest of the World.
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u guys contradict urself over and over and its cuz u dont know sports besides the few that u follow so theres no possible way u can comprehend other stuff
its ok back to ur fantasy world boys :-*
When did I contradict myself? Fantasy world? So you're saying since I don't follow amateur wrestling I'm living in a "fanstasy world?"
u miss the whole point, it wasnt about wrestling...homeboy said wrestling is not a physical sport and i showed a few pix to prove to him that wrestles are the toughest athletes out there
its not AMATEUR wrestling, its PROFESSIONAL...what do u call pro wrestling? WWE? lol
LOL, you got me on that one.
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^I think you're getting it twisted. I'm not saying that Blacks are the best athletes in the world & the best players. They might not be the best players in every sport, but physically, they are a more naturally gifted race than any other.
It's sterotypical, but they can run faster, jump higher, etc. than your average person of another race. Stronger calf muscles, but that doesn't mean they are the best at every sport. Just Basketball & Football because those are two sports that can be off of pure athleticism, especially the jumping & running side of it.
There are some amazing, Black Baseball players, but the American Black culture doesn't play Baseball as much as the other two. If you're a gifted enough athlete, Blacks go more for Football & Basketball because those sports allow their natural, pure athleticism to do a majority of the work, whereas Baseball you need amazing hand-eye coordination & other skills that need more input than just raw athletic ability.
You're confusing athleticism with being a good player. There are Black people that are 6'5'', 210 pounds that aren't gifted with the skills to play Basketball, but that doesn't mean the guy isn't a good athlete; his body type is still impressive. But when you have the skills to be World Class in a sport & now you have added, naturally gifted athleticism, now you have the full package; hence why American, NBA players are all better than everybody else in the rest of the World.
i understand the point you're trying to make and those are logical and make sense, but im not convinced yet because basketball and american football are not favorite sports in other countries. American football is kind of non-existant although rugby is very similar and basketball is starting to grow but not yet there. If they were popular and i'm sure they will get in the coming decades then it'll give us a good sample of what the rest are capable of. i dont know if u've ever visited outside of US, but the opportunities that exist here are like no other, just the fact that u can start a sports career for free at ur local high school or jr. high is what paves the way.
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^I think you're getting it twisted. I'm not saying that Blacks are the best athletes in the world & the best players. They might not be the best players in every sport, but physically, they are a more naturally gifted race than any other.
It's sterotypical, but they can run faster, jump higher, etc. than your average person of another race. Stronger calf muscles, but that doesn't mean they are the best at every sport. Just Basketball & Football because those are two sports that can be off of pure athleticism, especially the jumping & running side of it.
There are some amazing, Black Baseball players, but the American Black culture doesn't play Baseball as much as the other two. If you're a gifted enough athlete, Blacks go more for Football & Basketball because those sports allow their natural, pure athleticism to do a majority of the work, whereas Baseball you need amazing hand-eye coordination & other skills that need more input than just raw athletic ability.
You're confusing athleticism with being a good player. There are Black people that are 6'5'', 210 pounds that aren't gifted with the skills to play Basketball, but that doesn't mean the guy isn't a good athlete; his body type is still impressive. But when you have the skills to be World Class in a sport & now you have added, naturally gifted athleticism, now you have the full package; hence why American, NBA players are all better than everybody else in the rest of the World.
i understand the point you're trying to make and those are logical and make sense, but im not convinced yet because basketball and american football are not favorite sports in other countries. American football is kind of non-existant although rugby is very similar and basketball is starting to grow but not yet there. If they were popular and i'm sure they will get in the coming decades then it'll give us a good sample of what the rest are capable of. i dont know if u've ever visited outside of US, but the opportunities that exist here are like no other, just the fact that u can start a sports career for free at ur local high school or jr. high is what paves the way. There are alot of atheletes that are from immigrant parents who would've probably never made it close to what they are if they're parents didnt come here. These athletes are all over american sports scene, u just dont hear it all the time about their background.