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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: KWayz on September 30, 2010, 04:29:40 PM
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Check it out......
http://www.youngandthefly.com/2010/09/eminem-feat-lil-wayne-no-love-video.html
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teenie video... $$$
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Cool video, song sucks tho.
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That sample of LADY DON'T Hurt Me is fiiire.
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like it, the vid is help for the song...
This song is max average...
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is weezy out of jail or did they filmed the video before he went in ???
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^ before he went in
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best Eminem video since "3 A.M."
and I still fucks with the song
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I think Eminem doesn't fit the beat at all... singing + rapping
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Cool video, song sucks tho.
What's wrong with the song. I think it's one of Em's strongest tracks, and not just from recent years. This track would stand out even on the MMLP. Maybe not as a replacement for The Way I Am, but better than Remember Me.
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amazing track sum ppl r fukd need to smoke some weed
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^ before he went in
tought the same.
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Cool video, song sucks tho.
What's wrong with the song. I think it's one of Em's strongest tracks, and not just from recent years. This track would stand out even on the MMLP. Maybe not as a replacement for The Way I Am, but better than Remember Me.
This is better than 'Remember Me'?! R u fuckin serious? gat damn we have different tastes. I tried liking this song but Lil Wayne sounds like a retard on it, the sample is retarded. Slim spits a good verse but the singing sounds forced. One of the worst tracks on Recovery IMO. I guess it's a good choice for a single to please the masses cuz Wayne is on it.
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amazing track sum ppl r fukd need to smoke some weed
Damn i smoke plenty weed and this shit is still wack. Maybe if I do some blow it'll sound better.
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Cool video, song sucks tho.
What's wrong with the song. I think it's one of Em's strongest tracks, and not just from recent years. This track would stand out even on the MMLP. Maybe not as a replacement for The Way I Am, but better than Remember Me.
One fo my favourite track from Em is remember me. I don't think he got too much better than that.
this is not one of 'em...
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Sometimes i love this track other times i just think the sample is corney !
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Recovery is mehh, but No Love is my shit. Best song on the album by a mile. Em kills it and the beat is off the hook.
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Em has a crazy verse, but the song is still mad corny and wack.
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Only track that I still play from Recovery. Em and Wayne are a great combo, a good contrast in style (like the old 50 and Em used to be).
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1 good verse doesn't = good song.
Whack feature, whack hook, and for me personally the sample doesn't have any energy.
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The sample is killing that whole track..
God I hate the sampled song.
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Cool video, song sucks tho.
What's wrong with the song. I think it's one of Em's strongest tracks, and not just from recent years. This track would stand out even on the MMLP. Maybe not as a replacement for The Way I Am, but better than Remember Me.
This is better than 'Remember Me'?! R u fuckin serious? gat damn we have different tastes. I tried liking this song but Lil Wayne sounds like a retard on it, the sample is retarded. Slim spits a good verse but the singing sounds forced. One of the worst tracks on Recovery IMO. I guess it's a good choice for a single to please the masses cuz Wayne is on it.
You guys are only hating on the sample because you know the original so well and it being used kills it. Welcome to my world. I've gotten to numb to songs I both love and hate being brought in to the hip hop world and have the sample ruin the song for me that I've simply moved past it. Samples can't ruin hip hop for me anymore. No matter how well I know the original.
And Remember Me fucking sucks. Generic bass line beat, 3 verses that make no sense with each other and have no business on the album. Did Dre impregnate RBX's daughter or something? What business did RBX have on that album, or any album in 2000?
All No Love would have to say was produced and mixed by A.Young and half the fags here that hate it would be on their knees stroking it. I'm not even saying it's all that great a track. But at least it has appeal. Remember Me both sucks and couldn't sell umbrellas in the rain.
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I wanna know what is so wack to people about this song? The sample and beat are hot. Eminem's verse is strong. Wayne's verse is okay.
By far one of the better tracks on Recovery.
All No Love would have to say was produced and mixed by A.Young and half the fags here that hate it would be on their knees stroking it.
LOL. It's the truth though.
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I wanna know what is so wack to people about this song? The sample and beat are hot. Eminem's verse is strong. Wayne's verse is okay.
Most of us that were forced to listen hear the original song when it came out can't stand it. If you like it to each their own, but I'd just as soon forget about that whole euro-dance craze of the 90s and pretend it never existed.
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I wanna know what is so wack to people about this song? The sample and beat are hot. Eminem's verse is strong. Wayne's verse is okay.
Most of us that were forced to listen hear the original song when it came out can't stand it. If you like it to each their own, but I'd just as soon forget about that whole euro-dance craze of the 90s and pretend it never existed.
Will Ferrell alone means I could never hate that song.
Now when Nas used Beethoven for I Can I thought that was ridiculously stupid. You might as well sample Silent Night for a party anthem.
For the record, I get the reason people hate the sample. They don't want a somewhat serious song to remind them of a comedy routine. Like this debacle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRv7A5kWLqo
The last thing I want to think of when I'm listening to gangsta rap is John Travolta disco dancing. Who produced this crap again?
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I wanna know what is so wack to people about this song? The sample and beat are hot. Eminem's verse is strong. Wayne's verse is okay.
Most of us that were forced to listen hear the original song when it came out can't stand it. If you like it to each their own, but I'd just as soon forget about that whole euro-dance craze of the 90s and pretend it never existed.
Will Ferrell alone means I could never hate that song.
Now when Nas used Beethoven for I Can I thought that was ridiculously stupid. You might as well sample Silent Night for a party anthem.
For the record, I get the reason people hate the sample. They don't want a somewhat serious song to remind them of a comedy routine. Like this debacle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRv7A5kWLqo
The last thing I want to think of when I'm listening to gangsta rap is John Travolta disco dancing. Who produced this crap again?
Sampling Beethoven isn't even close to the same thing. What Is Love? is trashy euro-pop at its finest worst and a lot of people hate that song with a passion. Hence any sampling of it is gonna be wack to me. The sampling itself is wack, not how its used or what it reminds me of.
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I wanna know what is so wack to people about this song? The sample and beat are hot. Eminem's verse is strong. Wayne's verse is okay.
Most of us that were forced to listen hear the original song when it came out can't stand it. If you like it to each their own, but I'd just as soon forget about that whole euro-dance craze of the 90s and pretend it never existed.
Will Ferrell alone means I could never hate that song.
Now when Nas used Beethoven for I Can I thought that was ridiculously stupid. You might as well sample Silent Night for a party anthem.
For the record, I get the reason people hate the sample. They don't want a somewhat serious song to remind them of a comedy routine. Like this debacle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRv7A5kWLqo
The last thing I want to think of when I'm listening to gangsta rap is John Travolta disco dancing. Who produced this crap again?
Sampling Beethoven isn't even close to the same thing. What Is Love? is trashy euro-pop at its finest worst and a lot of people hate that song with a passion. Hence any sampling of it is gonna be wack to me. The sampling itself is wack, not how its used or what it reminds me of.
What you said makes no sense. It has nothing to do of what the song reminds you of but the only reason you hate it is because of what it represents in the euro dance world. There isn't enough of the song to recognize it as crappy euro-trash unless you already know the song. No Love doesn't sound like a euro dance song.
And Dr Dre retooling the Stayin Alive chorus is head and shoulders worse than sampling What Is Love.
P.S. sampling Beethoveen, and giving no credit in the liner notes if I remember correctly, is just plain silly when everyone and their mother not only knows the song like the back of their hand but probably was taught how to play it as a kid.
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I wanna know what is so wack to people about this song? The sample and beat are hot. Eminem's verse is strong. Wayne's verse is okay.
Most of us that were forced to listen hear the original song when it came out can't stand it. If you like it to each their own, but I'd just as soon forget about that whole euro-dance craze of the 90s and pretend it never existed.
Will Ferrell alone means I could never hate that song.
Now when Nas used Beethoven for I Can I thought that was ridiculously stupid. You might as well sample Silent Night for a party anthem.
For the record, I get the reason people hate the sample. They don't want a somewhat serious song to remind them of a comedy routine. Like this debacle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRv7A5kWLqo
The last thing I want to think of when I'm listening to gangsta rap is John Travolta disco dancing. Who produced this crap again?
Sampling Beethoven isn't even close to the same thing. What Is Love? is trashy euro-pop at its finest worst and a lot of people hate that song with a passion. Hence any sampling of it is gonna be wack to me. The sampling itself is wack, not how its used or what it reminds me of.
What you said makes no sense. It has nothing to do of what the song reminds you of but the only reason you hate it is because of what it represents in the euro dance world. There isn't enough of the song to recognize it as crappy euro-trash unless you already know the song. No Love doesn't sound like a euro dance song.
And Dr Dre retooling the Stayin Alive chorus is head and shoulders worse than sampling What Is Love.
P.S. sampling Beethoveen, and giving no credit in the liner notes if I remember correctly, is just plain silly when everyone and their mother not only knows the song like the back of their hand but probably was taught how to play it as a kid.
Beethoven is the most famous classical composer. What is Love is a goddawful euro pop song from the 90s that no one from that decade wants to remember.
It's not like Just Blaze found a non-wack part of the song to sample. He uses the chorus (the wackest part of the song) and a completely unnecessary sampling of the beat.
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I wanna know what is so wack to people about this song? The sample and beat are hot. Eminem's verse is strong. Wayne's verse is okay.
Most of us that were forced to listen hear the original song when it came out can't stand it. If you like it to each their own, but I'd just as soon forget about that whole euro-dance craze of the 90s and pretend it never existed.
Will Ferrell alone means I could never hate that song.
Now when Nas used Beethoven for I Can I thought that was ridiculously stupid. You might as well sample Silent Night for a party anthem.
For the record, I get the reason people hate the sample. They don't want a somewhat serious song to remind them of a comedy routine. Like this debacle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRv7A5kWLqo
The last thing I want to think of when I'm listening to gangsta rap is John Travolta disco dancing. Who produced this crap again?
Sampling Beethoven isn't even close to the same thing. What Is Love? is trashy euro-pop at its finest worst and a lot of people hate that song with a passion. Hence any sampling of it is gonna be wack to me. The sampling itself is wack, not how its used or what it reminds me of.
Spot on.
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With regards to Nas "not giving credit" to Beethoven - when 70 years have passed since the death of the composer of a song, the song becomes free for public use, which means that ANYONE can "interpolate" (recreate an original composition) without permission or without giving credit. What you still can't do is actually SAMPLE a recording without giving credit to the people behind that particular recording. In the case of Nas, that piece was replayed in the studio, not sampled from a record.
Back on topic: No Love is great and the fact that Just Blaze has the nerve to sample THAT record and turn it into a great hip-hop record only makes it greater. Far more original than sampling the usual old r&B, soul and funk records.
Just Blaze should sample "Baby One More Time" or "Macarena" next. If anyone can pull it off, it's him.
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I wanna know what is so wack to people about this song? The sample and beat are hot. Eminem's verse is strong. Wayne's verse is okay.
Most of us that were forced to listen hear the original song when it came out can't stand it. If you like it to each their own, but I'd just as soon forget about that whole euro-dance craze of the 90s and pretend it never existed.
I dunno man. I see what you're saying, but I'm all for people taking a negative and making it a positive. I feel like that's what they did on that song.
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With regards to Nas "not giving credit" to Beethoven - when 70 years have passed since the death of the composer of a song, the song becomes free for public use, which means that ANYONE can "interpolate" (recreate an original composition) without permission or without giving credit. What you still can't do is actually SAMPLE a recording without giving credit to the people behind that particular recording. In the case of Nas, that piece was replayed in the studio, not sampled from a record.
Back on topic: No Love is great and the fact that Just Blaze has the nerve to sample THAT record and turn it into a great hip-hop record only makes it greater. Far more original than sampling the usual old r&B, soul and funk records.
Just Blaze should sample "Baby One More Time" or "Macarena" next. If anyone can pull it off, it's him.
I understand the concept of public domain. What I'm talking about is simply courtesy and false advertising. Truthfully I feel bad for the 1 out of 1000 listeners that hear the track, check the credits, and thinks Salaam Remi came up with it. I say give the credit not because of law, but because of respect. He shouldn't be forced to. But it makes him look stupid.
And I've more than noticed no one seeming to mind it when Dre does the same thing that No Love is doing. Because both Eminem and I can see the hater in your eyes, yo eyes, yo eyes.
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the difference is, Hate in yo eyes has a dope beat, while this one sucks
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The track isn't bad but I think they could have done a lot more with that sample.
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the difference is, Hate in yo eyes has a dope beat, while this one sucks
One say A. Young the other doesn't. That's the only difference to people on this board. The difference to the rest of the world is that What Is Love is a catchy beat and Hate In Yo Eyes isn't. It's a very throwaway beat from Dre. And for the record if Dre had been the producer for Haddaway's song back in 93 most people here would be using that song asa an example of Dre's genius jumping to other genre.
Truth Hurts could have used a track like What Is Love. Same for Michel'le.
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If anything, the person behind the No Love beat was way more creative than Dre was with Hate In Yo Eyes.
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^ That Tom Green video is a fuckin classic, X to the Z did not see that shit coming.
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If anything, the person behind the No Love beat was way more creative than Dre was with Hate In Yo Eyes.
Exactly. It's a bonafide hit. A much bigger hit than anything Dre has done outside of rap. That Mary J single might be the closest, but as nice as it sounds it gets so boring after a few bars.
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If anything, the person behind the No Love beat was way more creative than Dre was with Hate In Yo Eyes.
Exactly. It's a bonafide hit. A much bigger hit than anything Dre has done outside of rap. That Mary J single might be the closest, but as nice as it sounds it gets so boring after a few bars.
I have no idea what you just said. Let me get this straight. Did you just say that this particular "rap song" is a bigger hit than anything a different "rap producer" (totally random to start talking about Dr. Dre btw) has produced "outside of rap"? What does that even mean? Not only is that an empty statement, its also false.
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If anything, the person behind the No Love beat was way more creative than Dre was with Hate In Yo Eyes.
Exactly. It's a bonafide hit. A much bigger hit than anything Dre has done outside of rap. That Mary J single might be the closest, but as nice as it sounds it gets so boring after a few bars.
I have no idea what you just said. Let me get this straight. Did you just say that this particular "rap song" is a bigger hit than anything a different "rap producer" (totally random to start talking about Dr. Dre btw) has produced "outside of rap"? What does that even mean? Not only is that an empty statement, its also false.
No. I'm comparing the Haddaway song to the Michel'le and Truth Hurts stuff that Dre produced. Dre was brought up because I think if he had produced No Love, the Em and Wayne track, and it sounded exactly the same it would not be put through the ringer because on this forum Dre is seen as infallible. I also used a very bad sample for a Mack 10 song that got a pass on this forum only because Dre produced it. Mark my words if Hate in Yo Eyes was produced by Eminem and sounded exactly the same it would have been put through the ringer on this forum as one of the worst tracks of all time.
Look, take away Em's verse and it's a nothing special song, but the verse is so strong it makes the track solid. Yes rappers rapping well can make average tracks sound better. Just like super solid production can cover up mediocre rapping.
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If anything, the person behind the No Love beat was way more creative than Dre was with Hate In Yo Eyes.
Exactly. It's a bonafide hit. A much bigger hit than anything Dre has done outside of rap. That Mary J single might be the closest, but as nice as it sounds it gets so boring after a few bars.
I have no idea what you just said. Let me get this straight. Did you just say that this particular "rap song" is a bigger hit than anything a different "rap producer" (totally random to start talking about Dr. Dre btw) has produced "outside of rap"? What does that even mean? Not only is that an empty statement, its also false.
No. I'm comparing the Haddaway song to the Michel'le and Truth Hurts stuff that Dre produced. Dre was brought up because I think if he had produced No Love, the Em and Wayne track, and it sounded exactly the same it would not be put through the ringer because on this forum Dre is seen as infallible. I also used a very bad sample for a Mack 10 song that got a pass on this forum only because Dre produced it. Mark my words if Hate in Yo Eyes was produced by Eminem and sounded exactly the same it would have been put through the ringer on this forum as one of the worst tracks of all time.
Look, take away Em's verse and it's a nothing special song, but the verse is so strong it makes the track solid. Yes rappers rapping well can make average tracks sound better. Just like super solid production can cover up mediocre rapping.
The Haddaway song is wick wick whack....just like many of the other big pop singles. Does it make a difference how popular it was? Surely anyone on this forum wouldn't think so. There's also nothing really "creative" about that song once you put it among all the rest of the europop trash coming out at the same time. If you enjoy the song for Em's verse then say that. I don't understand why everyone is defending the sampling when its plain horrible in my mind.
Dre is not seen as infallible. All the response to his recent production should tell you as much. And Em has produced much worse than Hate in Yo Eyes, so I doubt it would make a dent in his career if he had produced it. And really, Em gets a way bigger pass on music than Dre right now. I could argue that "No Love" would have been completely shitted on if Em weren't on it. Would YOU even be defending it?
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How did this thread become Dre related? This song still sucks and doesnt compare to Dre beats. I expect better from you Just Blaze (exhibit C).
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I could argue that "No Love" would have been completely shitted on if Em weren't on it. Would YOU even be defending it?
I would defend the beat.
Another thing: I don't get how No Love gets shitted on so hard in this thread, but a song like Live Your Life with T.I. gets nothing but praise when its complete ass and ripping off some shitty europop. The No Love beat beats Live Your Life and Hate In Yo Eyes by far.
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Another thing: I don't get how No Love gets shitted on so hard in this thread, but a song like Live Your Life with T.I. gets nothing but praise when its complete ass and ripping off some shitty europop. The No Love beat beats Live Your Life and Hate In Yo Eyes by far.
Oh hell no, that song is beyond wack too. This song is actually way better, and that's saying much. But it's Eminem who saves the song.
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the difference is, Hate in yo eyes has a dope beat, while this one sucks
One say A. Young the other doesn't. That's the only difference to people on this board. The difference to the rest of the world is that What Is Love is a catchy beat and Hate In Yo Eyes isn't. It's a very throwaway beat from Dre. And for the record if Dre had been the producer for Haddaway's song back in 93 most people here would be using that song asa an example of Dre's genius jumping to other genre.
Truth Hurts could have used a track like What Is Love. Same for Michel'le.
maybe that counts for some people, but not for everybody(including myself).
and the forum doesn't praise everything with Dre's name attached to it, take under pressure for example, it got shitted on.
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If anything, the person behind the No Love beat was way more creative than Dre was with Hate In Yo Eyes.
Exactly. It's a bonafide hit. A much bigger hit than anything Dre has done outside of rap. That Mary J single might be the closest, but as nice as it sounds it gets so boring after a few bars.
I have no idea what you just said. Let me get this straight. Did you just say that this particular "rap song" is a bigger hit than anything a different "rap producer" (totally random to start talking about Dr. Dre btw) has produced "outside of rap"? What does that even mean? Not only is that an empty statement, its also false.
No. I'm comparing the Haddaway song to the Michel'le and Truth Hurts stuff that Dre produced. Dre was brought up because I think if he had produced No Love, the Em and Wayne track, and it sounded exactly the same it would not be put through the ringer because on this forum Dre is seen as infallible. I also used a very bad sample for a Mack 10 song that got a pass on this forum only because Dre produced it. Mark my words if Hate in Yo Eyes was produced by Eminem and sounded exactly the same it would have been put through the ringer on this forum as one of the worst tracks of all time.
Look, take away Em's verse and it's a nothing special song, but the verse is so strong it makes the track solid. Yes rappers rapping well can make average tracks sound better. Just like super solid production can cover up mediocre rapping.
The Haddaway song is wick wick whack....just like many of the other big pop singles. Does it make a difference how popular it was? Surely anyone on this forum wouldn't think so. There's also nothing really "creative" about that song once you put it among all the rest of the europop trash coming out at the same time. If you enjoy the song for Em's verse then say that. I don't understand why everyone is defending the sampling when its plain horrible in my mind.
Dre is not seen as infallible. All the response to his recent production should tell you as much. And Em has produced much worse than Hate in Yo Eyes, so I doubt it would make a dent in his career if he had produced it. And really, Em gets a way bigger pass on music than Dre right now. I could argue that "No Love" would have been completely shitted on if Em weren't on it. Would YOU even be defending it?
To be honest I really do like the Wayne verse and the tone the music sets. I didn't even pick up on the sample right away when I first heard the leak. It takes into an almost gothic dark atmoshpehere. When Wayne gets to the nightstand/open bibles part it really has something. Then the faster, dick in your mouth, part comes in and he oversuses the life and game as a female mataphor but it's still decent. And way better than I'd ever expect from Wayne. The Chorus is wasted on Eminem. I might have gone with a operatic approach. Maybe even translated to another language.
But yes Em makes the song a great track. How many old Tupac tracks could have sucked with out his rapping on it? I hold the vocals to a higher regard than old song loops.
And what you say about Euro-crap is right, but no more right than what I would say about West Coast rap. Meaning; There's also nothing really "creative" about that song once you put it among all the rest of the west coast trash coming out at the same time. I can still like most genres and understand they can sound the same.
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i mean really..these to cats just need to go some where and chill the fuck out....Em is boring,and wayne is bisexual :-Xsad.
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Whoever said that shit about it just being the sample related to Night at the Roxbury and cheesy Disco in general, ruining the song was half right. (Rapsodie I think?)
I want to think that this song is just bad, but I'm starting to notice myself getting aggy at the sample everytime I hear it now.
Which leads me to this not being a good beat. Because many times before corny samples have created lively songs. (Numa Numa, Live Your Life).
And yes Weezy's verse is whack. Listen to his fuckin flow, it's so basic, he rapping slower than a 50 Cent love song.. Come on.. It's like he's just talking, not RAPPING.
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Whoever said that shit about it just being the sample related to Night at the Roxbury and cheesy Disco in general, ruining the song was half right. (Rapsodie I think?)
I said that too.
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Whoever said that shit about it just being the sample related to Night at the Roxbury and cheesy Disco in general, ruining the song was half right. (Rapsodie I think?)
I said that too.
Props.
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And what you say about Euro-crap is right, but no more right than what I would say about West Coast rap. Meaning; There's also nothing really "creative" about that song once you put it among all the rest of the west coast trash coming out at the same time. I can still like most genres and understand they can sound the same.
I never said the Dre song was creative. You're the one who brought the song up, remember? And you're the one who said the Haddaway song was creative, which it isn't. I don't quite see the point in bringing up other producers and other songs. All I'm saying is that sampling Haddaway for the No Love song was a horrible idea and it didn't work out.
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Enough of this nonsense lol.
Do you like the song or not? Simple.
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Enough of this nonsense lol.
Do you like the song or not? Simple.
wick wick wack