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Title: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: doggfather on October 27, 2010, 09:25:27 AM
http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2010/10/27/christopher-nolan-reveals-title-of-third-batman-film-and-that-it-wont-be-the-riddler/


Any comments?!

What you think?!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Javier on October 27, 2010, 10:48:43 AM
Excited!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 27, 2010, 04:05:41 PM
Kinda fucking hyped.

But that title sucks lol.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: G-Funk on October 27, 2010, 04:19:11 PM
Kind of a weak title if you ask me.
But now that Riddler is crossed off the possible villains, who will be in the next installment? ???

Joker can't for obvious reasons. Hush? Black Mask?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on October 27, 2010, 06:40:46 PM
wow 4 years in between these ones. Dint we only wait 2 last time around??? no it was 3 thats right.

Im hype , im not too familiar with the comic book vilains i was more of a tv dude the 70s series and the 80/90s movies.

I guess seing a character like Hush or black mask would be cool but i would like to see pengouin( since riddler is out) come and be a vilain as well.

Mt Freeze would be realy cool as a psycopath locking people in freezers or something lol.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 27, 2010, 07:28:31 PM
Nobody will ever top Heath.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on October 27, 2010, 10:22:38 PM
Speak on it!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: doggfather on October 27, 2010, 11:34:09 PM

But that title sucks lol.

Tought the same.

Black Mask, Pengouin, Ventriloquist or some other real gangster villain would be cool!!!!

 8) 8)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: O.G A.Geesta'z on October 28, 2010, 01:27:26 AM
im thinkin only possibilties is Harley quinn, Penguin, Black Mask (should be for sure), or maybe Catwoman

didnt they say something like "It protects against cats" about Batman gear in the 2nd film?

Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: doggfather on October 28, 2010, 01:46:31 AM
im thinkin only possibilties is Harley quinn, Penguin, Black Mask (should be for sure), or maybe Catwoman

didnt they say something like "It protects against cats" about Batman gear in the 2nd film?



I don't think Harley could be there without The Joker, she is not so relevant on her own, IMO.

the other is possibility IMO.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: O.G A.Geesta'z on October 28, 2010, 01:53:15 AM
im thinkin only possibilties is Harley quinn, Penguin, Black Mask (should be for sure), or maybe Catwoman

didnt they say something like "It protects against cats" about Batman gear in the 2nd film?



I don't think Harley could be there without The Joker, she is not so relevant on her own, IMO.

the other is possibility IMO.
what about the ventriloquist or Mad Hatter?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: doggfather on October 28, 2010, 02:14:29 AM
im thinkin only possibilties is Harley quinn, Penguin, Black Mask (should be for sure), or maybe Catwoman

didnt they say something like "It protects against cats" about Batman gear in the 2nd film?



I don't think Harley could be there without The Joker, she is not so relevant on her own, IMO.

the other is possibility IMO.
what about the ventriloquist or Mad Hatter?

Ventriloquist, I've wrote him before, check it! ;)
he could be a good choice, He was playd good in the City of scars fan film, remember?!
(or Billy Bob thornton could be a good choice IMO)

Mad Hatter: don't think so, after Tim Burton's Alice, I don't think Nolan want him, but who knows...
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: G-Funk on October 28, 2010, 02:30:11 AM
im thinkin only possibilties is Harley quinn, Penguin, Black Mask (should be for sure), or maybe Catwoman
didnt they say something like "It protects against cats" about Batman gear in the 2nd film?

Harley's cool but like doggfather said, she needs the Joker, I mean she can be deadly but she's mostly known for causing chaos with Joker. She hasn't really been seen as a serious foe for Batman.. she's like a villain side-kick I guess.
From what I've seen she's hardly by herself, she's either with Joker or with Ivy.

I can dig Penguin if they establish him well and Black Mask too.

Catwoman could maybe replace that ugly Rachel bitch that died in TDK.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: doggfather on October 28, 2010, 09:13:10 AM
im thinkin only possibilties is Harley quinn, Penguin, Black Mask (should be for sure), or maybe Catwoman
didnt they say something like "It protects against cats" about Batman gear in the 2nd film?

Harley's cool but like doggfather said, she needs the Joker, I mean she can be deadly but she's mostly known for causing chaos with Joker. She hasn't really been seen as a serious foe for Batman.. she's like a villain side-kick I guess.
From what I've seen she's hardly by herself, she's either with Joker or with Ivy.

I can dig Penguin if they establish him well and Black Mask too.

Catwoman could maybe replace that ugly Rachel bitch that died in TDK.


catwomen is one of my favourites femme fatale in the comic history.
i would like her too!

And I think the same about the Rachel girl in begins, and TDK...
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Blasphemy on October 29, 2010, 03:38:47 PM
im thinkin only possibilties is Harley quinn, Penguin, Black Mask (should be for sure), or maybe Catwoman
didnt they say something like "It protects against cats" about Batman gear in the 2nd film?

Harley's cool but like doggfather said, she needs the Joker, I mean she can be deadly but she's mostly known for causing chaos with Joker. She hasn't really been seen as a serious foe for Batman.. she's like a villain side-kick I guess.
From what I've seen she's hardly by herself, she's either with Joker or with Ivy.

I can dig Penguin if they establish him well and Black Mask too.

Catwoman could maybe replace that ugly Rachel bitch that died in TDK.


catwomen is one of my favourites femme fatale in the comic history.
i would like her too!

And I think the same about the Rachel girl in begins, and TDK...

I notice no one Likes Rachel in Either movies. lol
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: JohnnyL on October 30, 2010, 05:43:51 AM
 Kind of liked the title just because it wasn't what everyone was expecting it would be.  Less sure about not using Riddler.  He seemed like a good choice just because he's one of the villains that could easily be grounded in reality.  But whatever.  Nolan has, thus far, done a good job of making any character he's introduced work well within his established universe.  I'm sure he won't disappoint.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: The Watcher on October 30, 2010, 06:43:07 PM
im thinking the villain will be two-face. whoever the villain is will be one of the mob focused villains that are around gotham, so either two-face or black mask
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on October 31, 2010, 10:10:11 PM
 probably both i cant see them using just one
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: doggfather on November 01, 2010, 01:18:26 AM
probably both i cant see them using just one

I don"t think too that just only one villain is enough
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Javier on November 01, 2010, 11:37:52 AM
It's not the best title out there, but it does give the fan an idea on what the movie will be about.   

Batman Begins- Clearly an origin story

The Dark Knight- Batman willing to sacrifice himself for the good of Gotham City therefore being a "Dark" Knight. 

The Dark Knight Rises- seems that will be a much more connection from 2nd and 3rd than the 1st and 2nd of the trilogy.  Batman will also try to find a way of clearing up his image in Gotham but this will be a problem because whoever is the villain will most likely be using Batman's bad image to their advantage.  The word "rises" usually is used when you deal with dead people. Or in the case of Batman, it's "that's not who I thought it was".  I've read a few alternate titles, like "Gotham City" or "Batman", etc but none seem to fit with what the trilogy seems to be working on.  "Batman: Resurrection" might fit, but this will intentionally mislead tons of people into thinking that Batman dies.   I'm certain I'm completely wrong with everything I said, but that's my theory with the titles. 
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on November 01, 2010, 04:22:41 PM
Glad it's not in 3D.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on November 01, 2010, 05:28:28 PM
Glad it's not in 3D.

seriously!!!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: doggfather on November 02, 2010, 06:05:35 AM
It's not the best title out there, but it does give the fan an idea on what the movie will be about.   

Batman Begins- Clearly an origin story

The Dark Knight- Batman willing to sacrifice himself for the good of Gotham City therefore being a "Dark" Knight. 

The Dark Knight Rises- seems that will be a much more connection from 2nd and 3rd than the 1st and 2nd of the trilogy.  Batman will also try to find a way of clearing up his image in Gotham but this will be a problem because whoever is the villain will most likely be using Batman's bad image to their advantage.  The word "rises" usually is used when you deal with dead people. Or in the case of Batman, it's "that's not who I thought it was".  I've read a few alternate titles, like "Gotham City" or "Batman", etc but none seem to fit with what the trilogy seems to be working on.  "Batman: Resurrection" might fit, but this will intentionally mislead tons of people into thinking that Batman dies.   I'm certain I'm completely wrong with everything I said, but that's my theory with the titles. 

Think the same, I don't like the title too.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: JohnnyL on November 02, 2010, 10:02:49 AM
im thinkin only possibilties is Harley quinn, Penguin, Black Mask (should be for sure), or maybe Catwoman
didnt they say something like "It protects against cats" about Batman gear in the 2nd film?

Harley's cool but like doggfather said, she needs the Joker, I mean she can be deadly but she's mostly known for causing chaos with Joker. She hasn't really been seen as a serious foe for Batman.. she's like a villain side-kick I guess.
From what I've seen she's hardly by herself, she's either with Joker or with Ivy.

I can dig Penguin if they establish him well and Black Mask too.

Catwoman could maybe replace that ugly Rachel bitch that died in TDK.


catwomen is one of my favourites femme fatale in the comic history.
i would like her too!

And I think the same about the Rachel girl in begins, and TDK...

I notice no one Likes Rachel in Either movies. lol

 I'm not too crazy about the Rachel character in general, but I did like the way they used her character in "The Dark Knight."  They were kind of able to tie up that character thread and give Batman added motivation for hating the Joker.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on November 02, 2010, 03:54:43 PM
im thinkin only possibilties is Harley quinn, Penguin, Black Mask (should be for sure), or maybe Catwoman
didnt they say something like "It protects against cats" about Batman gear in the 2nd film?

Harley's cool but like doggfather said, she needs the Joker, I mean she can be deadly but she's mostly known for causing chaos with Joker. She hasn't really been seen as a serious foe for Batman.. she's like a villain side-kick I guess.
From what I've seen she's hardly by herself, she's either with Joker or with Ivy.

I can dig Penguin if they establish him well and Black Mask too.

Catwoman could maybe replace that ugly Rachel bitch that died in TDK.


catwomen is one of my favourites femme fatale in the comic history.
i would like her too!

And I think the same about the Rachel girl in begins, and TDK...

I notice no one Likes Rachel in Either movies. lol

 I'm not too crazy about the Rachel character in general, but I did like the way they used her character in "The Dark Knight."  They were kind of able to tie up that character thread and give Batman added motivation for hating the Joker.
Me too. It sucks that I saw TDK before Batman Begins. I had to retroactively find out just how significant she was to Batman.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: The Watcher on November 03, 2010, 02:20:46 AM
from the casting notices one of the websites picked up it looks like one of the villains will probably be clayface

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2010/11/02/do-latest-dark-knight-rises-rumors-point-to-clayface-as-the-villain/

so my guess for this movie; twoface and clayface, maybe with catwoman thrown in somewhere
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: G-Funk on November 03, 2010, 02:27:20 AM
from the casting notices one of the websites picked up it looks like one of the villains will probably be clayface

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2010/11/02/do-latest-dark-knight-rises-rumors-point-to-clayface-as-the-villain/

so my guess for this movie; twoface and clayface, maybe with catwoman thrown in somewhere

I thought Nolan wanted to do a more realistic approach with his take on Batman. Wonder how he could work Clayface if that was to be a villain in the next installment.
Also, I'm pretty sure Two-Face is dead.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: doggfather on November 03, 2010, 02:31:49 AM
And don't forget about Scarecrow, who is still livin, and was on Begins, and a little cameo in TDK too.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: The Watcher on November 03, 2010, 04:41:16 AM
from the casting notices one of the websites picked up it looks like one of the villains will probably be clayface

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2010/11/02/do-latest-dark-knight-rises-rumors-point-to-clayface-as-the-villain/

so my guess for this movie; twoface and clayface, maybe with catwoman thrown in somewhere

I thought Nolan wanted to do a more realistic approach with his take on Batman. Wonder how he could work Clayface if that was to be a villain in the next installment.
Also, I'm pretty sure Two-Face is dead.

its debatable about twoface i guess. 'the dark knight' was a term that was used for both batman ('the dark knight', but also a 'white knight (aka saviour)) to dent's 'dark knight' (twoface). basically 'the dark knight rises' = twoface is alive
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Javier on November 03, 2010, 11:19:49 AM
from the casting notices one of the websites picked up it looks like one of the villains will probably be clayface

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2010/11/02/do-latest-dark-knight-rises-rumors-point-to-clayface-as-the-villain/

so my guess for this movie; twoface and clayface, maybe with catwoman thrown in somewhere

I thought Nolan wanted to do a more realistic approach with his take on Batman. Wonder how he could work Clayface if that was to be a villain in the next installment.
Also, I'm pretty sure Two-Face is dead.

its debatable about twoface i guess. 'the dark knight' was a term that was used for both batman ('the dark knight', but also a 'white knight (aka saviour)) to dent's 'dark knight' (twoface). basically 'the dark knight rises' = twoface is alive

The White Knight was Harvey Dent.  Batman told Gordon that the people of Gotham must never know what he did.  That he's willing to take all the blame for Two-Face's actions in order to save his image and keep Gotham sane.  Here's what Gordon told Dent's son

Quote
Because we have to chase him, because he's the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now, So we'll hunt him, because he can take it, because he's not a hero, he's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. The Dark Knight

Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Shallow on November 03, 2010, 01:01:24 PM
from the casting notices one of the websites picked up it looks like one of the villains will probably be clayface

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2010/11/02/do-latest-dark-knight-rises-rumors-point-to-clayface-as-the-villain/

so my guess for this movie; twoface and clayface, maybe with catwoman thrown in somewhere

I thought Nolan wanted to do a more realistic approach with his take on Batman. Wonder how he could work Clayface if that was to be a villain in the next installment.
Also, I'm pretty sure Two-Face is dead.

Clayface in his comic form wouldn't work. The furthest you could go is have Roland Dagget be in some sort accident with the cream that makes his face easy to manipulate, but requires some sort of quick surgery every time. No way would anyone buy a shape shifting monster. But that idea seems far fetched and silly.

Whoever the villain is he has to be big enough to justify the city getting beyond the cop killer thing.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: JohnnyL on November 03, 2010, 02:21:44 PM
from the casting notices one of the websites picked up it looks like one of the villains will probably be clayface

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2010/11/02/do-latest-dark-knight-rises-rumors-point-to-clayface-as-the-villain/

so my guess for this movie; twoface and clayface, maybe with catwoman thrown in somewhere

I thought Nolan wanted to do a more realistic approach with his take on Batman. Wonder how he could work Clayface if that was to be a villain in the next installment.
Also, I'm pretty sure Two-Face is dead.

Clayface in his comic form wouldn't work. The furthest you could go is have Roland Dagget be in some sort accident with the cream that makes his face easy to manipulate, but requires some sort of quick surgery every time. No way would anyone buy a shape shifting monster. But that idea seems far fetched and silly.

Whoever the villain is he has to be big enough to justify the city getting beyond the cop killer thing.

 Well the first Clayface, Basil Karlo, started out as just a regular guy that wore a clay mask and used a knife to murder people (Until they changed it in the late '80s and had him inject himself with samples from Clayfaces II through IV which gave him Clayface II and IV's shape-shifting powers and Clayface III's melty powers.)  I doubt they'd use Karlo though, as Matt Hagan (Clayface II) is really the more well-known character.  Really, this is another character that while cool in the comics, I'm sure Nolan will just skip.
  Now that Riddler has been ruled out, my money is on Penguin, Catwoman, Talia Al Ghul, or Black Mask.  I'd say it's a safe bet that we'll also get more regular gangsters like Anthony Zucco or some of the other ones from Frank Miller or Jeph Loeb's Batman stories too.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Shallow on November 03, 2010, 03:58:39 PM
from the casting notices one of the websites picked up it looks like one of the villains will probably be clayface

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2010/11/02/do-latest-dark-knight-rises-rumors-point-to-clayface-as-the-villain/

so my guess for this movie; twoface and clayface, maybe with catwoman thrown in somewhere

I thought Nolan wanted to do a more realistic approach with his take on Batman. Wonder how he could work Clayface if that was to be a villain in the next installment.
Also, I'm pretty sure Two-Face is dead.

Clayface in his comic form wouldn't work. The furthest you could go is have Roland Dagget be in some sort accident with the cream that makes his face easy to manipulate, but requires some sort of quick surgery every time. No way would anyone buy a shape shifting monster. But that idea seems far fetched and silly.

Whoever the villain is he has to be big enough to justify the city getting beyond the cop killer thing.

 Well the first Clayface, Basil Karlo, started out as just a regular guy that wore a clay mask and used a knife to murder people (Until they changed it in the late '80s and had him inject himself with samples from Clayfaces II through IV which gave him Clayface II and IV's shape-shifting powers and Clayface III's melty powers.)  I doubt they'd use Karlo though, as Matt Hagan (Clayface II) is really the more well-known character.  Really, this is another character that while cool in the comics, I'm sure Nolan will just skip.
  Now that Riddler has been ruled out, my money is on Penguin, Catwoman, Talia Al Ghul, or Black Mask.  I'd say it's a safe bet that we'll also get more regular gangsters like Anthony Zucco or some of the other ones from Frank Miller or Jeph Loeb's Batman stories too.

Oh yeah. Forgot about him. Cursed cartoon series makes me forget the past. Either way, Karlo seems was too small time a villain to feature. I guess if they used a big time crime lord as one villain and Karlo as just this disgruntled serial killer as a sub lot with the idea that Batman has no time to find a serial killer that kills 1 person every few weeks while the crime lord endangers lives and quality of life of thousands. But in the end it's the catching of the celebrity Clayface that makes Batman a hero again while taking down the crimelord barely makes the second page of the paper.

It could work I guess. But it would be very similar to what they did with Batman ignoring the Joker.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: 714rep on November 04, 2010, 12:08:32 AM
What about Bane?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: F-cisco on November 17, 2010, 04:41:04 PM
I don't think they will use Black Mask. His current design looks too much like the Red Skull and the Captain America movie is coming out next summer.

I'm hoping for the villain to be an amagalm of Azrael/Reaper or maybe Deadshot.. Batman needs worthy adversaries.