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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: dameons on November 02, 2010, 11:03:12 PM
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"Both Busta Rhymes and Dr. Dre are gonna be dropping," Nottz promised. "Dre is moving like a snail, but [the album will come out]. He's gonna drop, I know it. Dre played me so many records, it's a lot of records that has you thinking, "He's rapping over this?" And it's dope sh*t. He played at least about 40 records and each one of them joints were like East Coast sounding stuff. And it was crazy, East Coast underground sh*t. Like, if he drops this, it'll be over." (SOHH)
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snailtox? :laugh:
detox is gonna be one amazing west coast, east coast, techno, electro, hip-hop, g-funk bonanza :banana:
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Dre did say he's been listening to alot of Mobb Deep and Wu Tang, but the only thing East Coast sounding he's dropped was "Death To My Enemies" even Raekwon didn't get those grimey East beats. Be interesting though, new sound for Dre
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i hope he throws some Opera songs on there too
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definitely never coming out.
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definitely never coming out.
And you know this how?
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Detox has no sound.
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Just one man gets to bump Detox whenever he wants, its Chuck Norris.
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definitely never coming out.
And you know this how?
lol everybody who waited this shit since 2004 know this
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definitely never coming out.
And you know this how?
lol everybody who waited this shit since 2004 know this
since 2001...
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definitely never coming out.
And you know this how?
lol everybody who waited this shit since 2004 know this
since 2001...
I was a bit too young ;)
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snailtox? :laugh:
detox is gonna be one amazing west coast, east coast, techno, electro, hip-hop, g-funk bonanza :banana:
yeah, did the party songs disappear :laugh:
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definitely never coming out.
And you know this how?
Dre told me he set up a plan to make it look like he died...so he leaves the Detox legacy behind and the world will be questioning about it for ever
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;D
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At this point, I don't care what kind of sound it has,
just as long as it is NOT the following:
sparse, plodding drums, with just a kick drum and an echoey snare
with a few piano notes, and some dark keyboard string stabs
If it's an album full of the same thing we've been hearing for 5 years, I'll scream.
I would literally rather it be 80s Bulgarian disco-trance or some shit, ANYTHING except the plodding slow piano stuff.
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At this point, I don't care what kind of sound it has,
just as long as it is NOT the following:
sparse, plodding drums, with just a kick drum and an echoey snare
with a few piano notes, and some dark keyboard string stabs
If it's an album full of the same thing we've been hearing for 5 years, I'll scream.
I would literally rather it be 80s Bulgarian disco-trance or some shit, ANYTHING except the plodding slow piano stuff.
lol! :laugh:
well whatever direction he takes, it will sound like Dre, in other words: simple ;)
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At this point, I don't care what kind of sound it has,
just as long as it is NOT the following:
sparse, plodding drums, with just a kick drum and an echoey snare
with a few piano notes, and some dark keyboard string stabs
If it's an album full of the same thing we've been hearing for 5 years, I'll scream.
I would literally rather it be 80s Bulgarian disco-trance or some shit, ANYTHING except the plodding slow piano stuff.
lol! :laugh:
well whatever direction he takes, it will sound like Dre, in other words: simple ;)
Maybe he'll strip the sound down even further, so it's just one huge repeating clap sound
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At this point, I don't care what kind of sound it has,
just as long as it is NOT the following:
sparse, plodding drums, with just a kick drum and an echoey snare
with a few piano notes, and some dark keyboard string stabs
If it's an album full of the same thing we've been hearing for 5 years, I'll scream.
I would literally rather it be 80s Bulgarian disco-trance or some shit, ANYTHING except the plodding slow piano stuff.
lol! :laugh:
well whatever direction he takes, it will sound like Dre, in other words: simple ;)
Maybe he'll strip the sound down even further, so it's just one huge repeating clap sound
I like how dre spend like 2 years in the middle of the 2000's studying music theory, and then comes out of it making the kind of beats you described. I guess despite his knowledge of music theory, his ear for good music has been totally corrupted. If he thinks that 3 piano notes and 2 bars of plodding drums looped for 4 minutes straight is good music then honestly Detox might not be that hot. Maybe he needs that legendary 'ear' he had in the 90s back, more so than he needs Scott Storch back...
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At this point, I don't care what kind of sound it has,
just as long as it is NOT the following:
sparse, plodding drums, with just a kick drum and an echoey snare
with a few piano notes, and some dark keyboard string stabs
If it's an album full of the same thing we've been hearing for 5 years, I'll scream.
I would literally rather it be 80s Bulgarian disco-trance or some shit, ANYTHING except the plodding slow piano stuff.
lol! :laugh:
well whatever direction he takes, it will sound like Dre, in other words: simple ;)
Maybe he'll strip the sound down even further, so it's just one huge repeating clap sound
I like how dre spend like 2 years in the middle of the 2000's studying music theory, and then comes out of it making the kind of beats you described. I guess despite his knowledge of music theory, his ear for good music has been totally corrupted. If he thinks that 3 piano notes and 2 bars of plodding drums looped for 4 minutes straight is good music then honestly Detox might not be that hot. Maybe he needs that legendary 'ear' he had in the 90s back, more so than he needs Scott Storch back...
but his instrumentals were always simple
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Sounds like he has heard the negative feedback and has changed directions . The beats will be hard , mixed with " I've been doing this for years , I'm a legend , not a gangster anymore but i will shoot you" lyrics ...Guaranteed
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His genius before was picking really dope samples and having them replayed and mixed fantastically, and adding bits and pieces, or combining other samples with them
He can still make dope beats, but it must take a LOT longer because instead of going through records that already exist and picking out dope bits, he MAKES loads of records and then shifts through them for the best ones
Also, when you replay a sample, you can still copy the funk and swing of the original sample, because the sample was the jumping off point... but when you start by making a slow kick and clap, then it's plodding to begin with
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2nd beat in the latest beats ad = east coast style drums. also, beat in the HP ad with stat quo.
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His genius before was picking really dope samples and having them replayed and mixed fantastically, and adding bits and pieces, or combining other samples with them
He can still make dope beats, but it must take a LOT longer because instead of going through records that already exist and picking out dope bits, he MAKES loads of records and then shifts through them for the best ones
Also, when you replay a sample, you can still copy the funk and swing of the original sample, because the sample was the jumping off point... but when you start by making a slow kick and clap, then it's plodding to begin with
so you didn't like the beat of Deja Vu for example?
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Dre did say he's been listening to alot of Mobb Deep and Wu Tang, but the only thing East Coast sounding he's dropped was "Death To My Enemies" even Raekwon didn't get those grimey East beats. Be interesting though, new sound for Dre
Remember that 50 cent's In Da Hood joint
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definitely never coming out.
And U do know that! lol :D
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His genius before was picking really dope samples and having them replayed and mixed fantastically, and adding bits and pieces, or combining other samples with them
He can still make dope beats, but it must take a LOT longer because instead of going through records that already exist and picking out dope bits, he MAKES loads of records and then shifts through them for the best ones
Also, when you replay a sample, you can still copy the funk and swing of the original sample, because the sample was the jumping off point... but when you start by making a slow kick and clap, then it's plodding to begin with
so you didn't like the beat of Deja Vu for example?
I like some of them, and he still does replay samples sometimes or he makes ones that sound different, it's just he seems to want to make a LOT of those piano ones, so I hope Detox isn't like all piano ones
Though maybe he's been saving like 12 incredible piano ones specially for Detox, so who knows
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Detox is going to be like the record from the movie "Pootie Tang"
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Does anybody on here really think that Detox is going to sound like anything Dre has done before?
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I Hope Havoc gonna do some shit on album.if he ever drop. ;D
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His genius before was picking really dope samples and having them replayed and mixed fantastically, and adding bits and pieces, or combining other samples with them
He can still make dope beats, but it must take a LOT longer because instead of going through records that already exist and picking out dope bits, he MAKES loads of records and then shifts through them for the best ones
Also, when you replay a sample, you can still copy the funk and swing of the original sample, because the sample was the jumping off point... but when you start by making a slow kick and clap, then it's plodding to begin with
on the money. great insight.
... but there are plenty of other producers who make beats from scratch, in a quarter the time dre can. Also, those producers will develop a great beat, rather than making a million simple ones, and then picking the best one.
See that's his problem - why START with a plodding kick and snare? I was listening to Hallelujah a minute ago, and yea its a dope beat, but the snare is just so plodding and deliberate that it drags down the beat and is awkward for bishop to flow over. Bishop still flows sick, but the drums are the weak point of that song.
If Dre is really that bad at composition, and needs samples and session players as jumping off points that badly.... i mean can't he can't just turn on his music production software, open up a stock funk drum beat, and work from there? I mean no offense, but Dre's drums used to be his strong point, now they are his weak point. Though I liked some of the drums on relapse.... only some tho, lol.
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Dre did say he's been listening to alot of Mobb Deep and Wu Tang, but the only thing East Coast sounding he's dropped was "Death To My Enemies" even Raekwon didn't get those grimey East beats. Be interesting though, new sound for Dre
Remember that 50 cent's In Da Hood joint
Yeah I could never get into that track, was still West Coast influenced though. The joints he gave Jigga and Nas weren't very East Coast. The closest he's come is probably some of his early aftermath beats, the mafioso firm era. But recently there's been only 1 East Coast joint, Death To My Enemies and I gotta admit that shit goes hard!
Either way we've had about 5 Detox leaks, and everyone has had a different sound. Topless, Shit Popped Off, Under Pressure, Turn Me On, Flashy. None of these tracks really flow together, so he's definitely been searching for that sound
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Does anybody on here really think that Detox is going to sound like anything Dre has done before?
when compared to his last albums it won't be similar at all, because shit is going to be wack as fuck
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Well I saw in an interview that the only hip hop music he listens to is old school mobb deep. No big surprise. There's a lot of similarities in their sound.
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I think Dre has all but guaranteed that people will not like this album no matter how it comes out lol. Short of cure cancer, fix the economy and create jobs.
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Dre been sounding eastcoast for a minute now tho. IM cool with it.
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Well I saw in an interview that the only hip hop music he listens to is old school mobb deep. No big surprise. There's a lot of similarities in their sound.
The production and mixing on 'The Infamous' was phenomenal. But really Dre? I mean, I guess I can't knock him for being into old school Mobb Deep the most, but... i mean there is similar music to what they made that i consider just as valuable.... oh well. lol.
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all these artists who talk about detox like its some revolutionary shit are such fucking tools
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Just one man gets to bump Detox whenever he wants, its Chuck Norris.
word, detox is chuck norris approved. Dre will not release this otherwise he will eat chuck norris fists
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all these artists who talk about detox like its some revolutionary shit are such fucking tools
who isnt sucking up to Dre these days
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maybe dr. dre has been releasing Detox thru workin with other producers under the table. maybe he could've worked with Jeezy on "lose my mind" or a couple of tracks with Nipsey on his shit he's been releasin, he could've been workin with some things with Kanye or Swagger Mane or co produced some tracks with Swizz Beatz, Niggarachi, or Lexx Lugar. Maybe that's whut Nottz and everybody was talking about when they say they've heard Detox? I might aswell throw out Tha Dogg Pound's name out there too on some Direction/Mixing type shit or song guidance. Really, Detox isn't an album but it's a sound.
i mean after all, we're used to being under the impression that Dre do boom bap piano string hip hop and having that sound that they have over there (that Bishop Lamont/Eminem shit). but for some1 who's been this dedicated thru all of this time has surely developed some sort've musical skill. I'm sure Premier and 9th Wonder can really produce some music, Quik & Terrace ain't the only niggaz that play instruments.
Some songs I've heard on the radio over the past few years have had some similarities to a Dr. Dre production (I mean really noticable like some of Beyonce's records and Alicia Keyes records; of course I could be wrong about those particular two ladies but I know I ain't far off the bat). Dr. Dre could be looking for that Dr. Dre he's supposed to be (and I say that lightly).
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Detox
aint never coming out gonna blow our minds, shit gonna be biggest thing in music history
and if it will, shit gonna be wack shit gonna make us delete our entire music collection, throw away cds..
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Detox is going to be a wack fest......because hip hop is about having a persona and a greatvoice and dre doesn't have that.....all he has is his beats his voice was never anything special he always was able to get by on the strength of his beats...He couldn't make a dope record even if he tryed to .....everyone who is waiting on detox is like waiting on
Gary Coleman to put out a dope hip hop album..........
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Dr.Dre makes more money by not dropping detox. Figure it out...
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definitely never coming out.
And U do know that! lol :D
Mac Shawn is that you?!
but yeah above post is right.(BigWorm)
Umm though Detox,I'm sick of hearing all this "It's coming soon"what the world ending?
Geez even though some of you guys are hating on him right now,9/10 y'all gon cop it when it does come out.Dr.Dre should have kept us happy in the mean time and should have released some "Dr.Dre and the family" compilations similar in idea to those P.Diddy ones.He could use his bass players,keyboard players,samples,2nd pair of ears,Dr. Dre 2(This one is gonna hold us down later on with ads promoting Detox as well).He had along time to release this and that,I know hes what a "perfectionist" and all that but still.
I'm surprised I haven't heard the nWo is stopping Dre releasing Detox,yet lol
but yeah above post is right.