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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: 7even on November 24, 2010, 12:06:54 PM
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What's happening? All he did was leaving an ungrateful franchise in a cocky manner to team up with 2 All-Star buddies. It's not like did something horrible, like raping or shooting a nigga in the face with a shotgun. What's the deal with all the hate? After all he busted his ass off for the Cavs for 7 long years. I would have left right after my rookie contract was up. So why is niggas hating like he killed a bunch of babies or some shit?
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Lebron didn't cry during a press conference and give Cleveland a ring
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And also a bit more seriously, in this age of free agents in all sport people tend to hope that superstar players stay on one team.
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The best get hated. Thats the reason.
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I still think Kobe 2003 was WAAAY more hated that LeBron 2010, and with good reason, LeBron never had to go to court for what he did, Kobe did.
This is a good article though as to why people hate LeBron. I think this hold true, LeBron is in the prime of his career and people think he cheated. In the US, a country of highly competitive people, we see teaming up with our enemies as cheating. When we elect politicians, we want the ones who are going to fight the other side, not actually work out solutions with them, we have to be the best at everything and our sports teams have to be the best. So LeBron, by building his own all-star team, in our opinions, cheated and didn't win a title on his own, even though no NBA great has. Magic had Kareem, MJ had Pippen, Hakeem had Maxwell and then Clyde, Duncan had Robinson then Parker, Wade had Shaq, Shaq had Kobe, Kobe had Gasol and on and on.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/michael_rosenberg/11/23/lebron.hatred/index.html
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LOL, Laker fans won't even allow LeBron to win the argument of "more hated" lmfao.
Anyway, LeBron is hated because he situated himself to win a ring & the rest of the league hated that; except for the people who are intelligent enough to realize only 3 teams have a shot at winning the Finals to begin with lol.
If LeBron went to the Knicks, nobody would say shit.
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its because lebron did a classless act with his "decision" and turning his back on the cavaliers.
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its because lebron did a classless act with his "decision" and turning his back on the cavaliers.
It wasn't the choice of the decision, it was the events leading up to it.
Someone was feeding him bad advice; athletes never do anything off the court/field on their own accord. Somebody said you can get millions of views, do this show, draw this out & he went to NBA devil.
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I still think Kobe 2003 was WAAAY more hated that LeBron 2010, and with good reason, LeBron never had to go to court for what he did, Kobe did.
This is a good article though as to why people hate LeBron. I think this hold true, LeBron is in the prime of his career and people think he cheated. In the US, a country of highly competitive people, we see teaming up with our enemies as cheating. When we elect politicians, we want the ones who are going to fight the other side, not actually work out solutions with them, we have to be the best at everything and our sports teams have to be the best. So LeBron, by building his own all-star team, in our opinions, cheated and didn't win a title on his own, even though no NBA great has. Magic had Kareem, MJ had Pippen, Hakeem had Maxwell and then Clyde, Duncan had Robinson then Parker, Wade had Shaq, Shaq had Kobe, Kobe had Gasol and on and on.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/michael_rosenberg/11/23/lebron.hatred/index.html
If we did not love sports, we would not hate LeBron James. He has not sinned against society. He has sinned against competition. And this sounds backward, but it's true: If he had sinned against society, we would have an easier time forgiving him. We all sin against society at some point. In sports, competition is everything.
Well, I get the point, I really do... but still, hating someone more for joining a team that features good players than you would hate him for killing a cool nigga in cold blood and getting away with it or something is just flat out dumb.. so many athletes have done so much vile crap, yet LeBron is the most hated for joining the Heat. Retarded.
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LOL, Laker fans won't even allow LeBron to win the argument of "more hated" lmfao.
Anyway, LeBron is hated because he situated himself to win a ring & the rest of the league hated that; except for the people who are intelligent enough to realize only 3 teams have a shot at winning the Finals to begin with lol.
If LeBron went to the Knicks, nobody would say shit.
WTF!
Why would I even want Kobe to win that argument. I remember damn near riots when Kobe would go into Denver, and everywhere people hating Kobe for what he was accused of. And to me, it was fair, if Kobe really raped a woman he should have booed all the way to JAIL! But why as a Laker fan would I even want Kobe to be more hated than LeBron, because I'd rather have Kobe and the Lakers win titles than win a Kobe/LeBron popularity contest.
And read my post, especially when I said this...
So LeBron, by building his own all-star team, in our opinions, cheated and didn't win a title on his own, even though no NBA great has. Magic had Kareem, MJ had Pippen, Hakeem had Maxwell and then Clyde, Duncan had Robinson then Parker, Wade had Shaq, Shaq had Kobe, Kobe had Gasol and on and on.
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Seriously? What do you mean "how come"? I'd have thought its glaringly obvious why he's hated. It wasnt that he left a franchise, it was the manner in which he did it. Not to mention the people who always want to see these fake dynasties fail when they are created (me included, fuck the Miami Heat).
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To everyone questioning why LeBron is so hated... do you guys not remember the "The Decision" topic at this very forum? That topic answered all of your questions for you. When he announced he was going to publicly state which team he was going to play for on national television, everybody who thought LeBron was going to leave Cleveland, no longer thought that he would anymore. Every single poster in that topic, myself included, thought that there was no way in hell he would be stupid enough to draw even more attention to himself just so he could ditch his home state and join Dwyane Wade's team, especially after he had countless quotes talking about how he could never leave Cleveland until he "brings home a championship." We all assumed that if someone were to do something like that, he would do it discreetly and with class, not on national fucking television like a douchebag. No way would he want to get himself involved in this PR nightmare, right? And what do you know... he actually does it. They even acknowledge how stupid of a move that was in his own commercials.
I personally don't hate him for it. I thought the backlash he drew was entertaining as fuck, and while I do feel sympathy for Cleveland, the way everyone in Cleveland reacted made me crack up. But if you can't see why people hate LeBron at this point, whether or not you hate him yourself, then you are seriously turning a blind eye.
its because lebron did a classless act with his "decision" and turning his back on the cavaliers.
It wasn't the choice of the decision, it was the events leading up to it.
Someone was feeding him bad advice; athletes never do anything off the court/field on their own accord. Somebody said you can get millions of views, do this show, draw this out & he went to NBA devil.
Obviously he listened to shitty advice, but the bottomline is he still went out and did it. Dude is 26 years old, he's responsible for his own damn decisions.
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Let's be clear here: Of course I see why what he did makes him dislikeable. It's not about that. It's about how he is hated more than other people are hated for doing really fucked up off-court stuff. People act as if "The Decision" is worse than slapping your own unborn child out of your wife or something. That's what I'm saying and that's what is so damn weird and beyond my understanding.
Let's take Tyson, OJ or Vick for example who did far worse things respectively, yet blacks still jumped to their defense... people even felt hella sorry for Kobe back in 2003. Yet with LeBron everybody hates him or is indifferent to his suffering even though what he did is nothing compared to what other athletes did. Guys say it's cheating how he teams up with All-Stars, then the same guys turn around and defend real cheaters like Barry Bonds or Lance Armstrong. It's just obscene.
My point still stands: Many athletes have done far worse things and received far less hate for it. That's a fact. Also, LeBron was generally "liked" before this incident. I could understand if he had always been somewhat hated for his personality and then finally fed the public something to let out their hate for. But that isn't the case, he was rather liked and now he is hated more than Vick, Artest, Tyson, Kobe, Mayweather, Bonds and Roethlisberger combined.
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Because you cannot talk shit if you have won nothing ...
remember when him , Wade and Bosh threw a parade like they just won it all...
quotes like : it's going to be easy for us , each loss will be like the world trade center , I feel sorry for those who are going to defend us ... :-X
Now they are just making fools of themselves ....
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Because the only thing people like to do more than build someone up...is tear them down. Fans hold these athletes to a much higher standard than they hold themselves. If the average person worked for a company where they didnt feel appreciated, they would leave and not give a fuck. Look how Dan Gilbert acted, its clear he saw LeBron as nothing more than his money maker. But for an athlete, they are supposed to shut up and just deal with it.
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LeBron was never as hated as Kobe was. Being called a douche, egomaniac, etc, is nothing compared to being called a rapist.
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LeBron was never as hated as Kobe was. Being called a douche, egomaniac, etc, is nothing compared to being called a rapist.
LeBron is booed like a rapist in every arena on the road..
Cavs officials are seriously concerned about his safety when the Heat are visiting Cleveland. Security measures are at an all-time high, even hateful t-shirts are banned for that game.
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LeBron was never as hated as Kobe was. Being called a douche, egomaniac, etc, is nothing compared to being called a rapist.
LeBron is booed like a rapist in every arena on the road..
Cavs officials are seriously concerned about his safety when the Heat are visiting Cleveland. Security measures are at an all-time high, even hateful t-shirts are banned for that game.
That's cause he shat all over his home state. Not saying he didn't have the right to leave but he made a complete ass out himself the way he did it. I still don't think he's as hated as Kobe was. I went to a Sonics the same year Kobe got accused and the crowd was fuckin ruthless yelling all kinds of crazy shit at him. Hell, he still gets booed every time he touches the ball at a number of places.
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Lebron had a complete team built around him, its funny a cavs team with lebron for damn sure wouldnt of had this many losses early.
they aquired a nice PF in jamison and had a high energy pf in varaejo, had a shooting point guard (so he can run the offense) athletic wing men, and solid centers and a pretty young and deep bench, and a 3 pt specialist.
like i said before the heats team is basically trash theres almost no strategy or a build up plan when they made that team, they just got the cheapest guys they can sign possible.
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Lebron had a complete team built around him, its funny a cavs team with lebron for damn sure wouldnt of had this many losses early.
That's because they are learning to play together. You're nuts if you don't think the Heat will play better as the season goes on.
LeBron would have one of the best records in Cleveland, no doubt, because his offense was "give me the ball", now he has to work with this new one.
But no, a "complete team" is a ridiculous statement. Kobe has a complete team around him. He can shoot under 30% in a Finals game & still win it by double digits lol. LeBron shot like that 21 times last year & they lost all those games lol.
When Kobe can go from scoring 34 a game to scoring 24 a game & be twice as successful, that only happens because you have that "complete team", otherwise logically, Kobe averaging 10 less point a game & winning Finals is physically impossible lol.
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When Kobe was hated, many said it was just the media. Truth was dude was arrogant, caught a rape charge (deserved or not), and was tryin to hard to be MJ. But the media didn't help........
Lebron? He bailed on his team, isn't winning, isn't playing that great, and keeps saying some stupid shit. The media aren't helping...
BOttom line, dude's arrogance is shining through. Once he starts winning, he'll be fine. Having said that, as I said since the beginning, the Heat's lineup is wack compared to Lakers or Celtics
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First of all, Lebron crowned himself The King with no basis, while Kobe is the best player in the world. 2nd of all, LeBron is a douchebag. Third of all, make a topic like this when LeBron loses all his sponsors and has to completely re-work his image to get superstar credit in the league...PeACe
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To everyone questioning why LeBron is so hated... do you guys not remember the "The Decision" topic at this very forum? That topic answered all of your questions for you. When he announced he was going to publicly state which team he was going to play for on national television, everybody who thought LeBron was going to leave Cleveland, no longer thought that he would anymore. Every single poster in that topic, myself included, thought that there was no way in hell he would be stupid enough to draw even more attention to himself just so he could ditch his home state and join Dwyane Wade's team, especially after he had countless quotes talking about how he could never leave Cleveland until he "brings home a championship." We all assumed that if someone were to do something like that, he would do it discreetly and with class, not on national fucking television like a douchebag. No way would he want to get himself involved in this PR nightmare, right? And what do you know... he actually does it. They even acknowledge how stupid of a move that was in his own commercials.
I personally don't hate him for it. I thought the backlash he drew was entertaining as fuck, and while I do feel sympathy for Cleveland, the way everyone in Cleveland reacted made me crack up. But if you can't see why people hate LeBron at this point, whether or not you hate him yourself, then you are seriously turning a blind eye.
its because lebron did a classless act with his "decision" and turning his back on the cavaliers.
It wasn't the choice of the decision, it was the events leading up to it.
Someone was feeding him bad advice; athletes never do anything off the court/field on their own accord. Somebody said you can get millions of views, do this show, draw this out & he went to NBA devil.
Obviously he listened to shitty advice, but the bottomline is he still went out and did it. Dude is 26 years old, he's responsible for his own damn decisions.
excellent analysis.
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First of all, Lebron crowned himself The King with no basis, while Kobe is the best player in the world. 2nd of all, LeBron is a douchebag. Third of all, make a topic like this when LeBron loses all his sponsors and has to completely re-work his image to get superstar credit in the league...PeACe
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Yeah I completely forgot about the lost endorsements. Nike made a commercial for LeBron about his current situation lol
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To me its a different kind of hate. To me, Kobe was hated because he came across as fucking up that great Laker team because of his massive ego. Seemed like he would rather score 80 than get a ring. A spoiled brat and came across as a phony. Anyone w half a brain knew he didn't rape that broad, but that was great ammo to shit on him even more.
Lebron also seemed like a massive douche, saying his goal was to become a global icon. But him doing "the decision" was a way bigger douche move than Kobe has ever done. Say what you want, but Kobe was loyal to LA. And even if he did leave, I don't think he would have shit on the LA fans by doing a 3 hour special about that decision. I mean Lebron was in the place that he was born and raised, and he punked all those people that literally worshipped him.
I don't give a fuck about Lebron changing teams, that's free agency. But to do it the way he did was sinister lol.
I don't know, I def despised Kobe for a while. But he was fun to hate. A good villain. Lebron just seems like a pretentious asshole and he hasn't won shit to back it up. I'm kinda glad what's his face banged his moms.
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^Pretty on point, other than the fact that Kobe was nowhere near breaking up any great Laker teams (he was more like the main component of those great Laker teams), and Kobe was ALWAYS all about winning and collecting rings...other than that, you made some good points. PeACe
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what was the story of cleveland crowd yelling scottie pippen last night?? heat vs. cavs
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what was the story of cleveland crowd yelling scottie pippen last night?? heat vs. cavs
scottie pippen was like jordan' sidekick, so that's what they calling him, he went to miami to become wade's sidekick, it ain't looking like it by now though ;D. I wouldn't care though because pippen's an all time great and without him jordan wouldn't win those rings.
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what was the story of cleveland crowd yelling scottie pippen last night?? heat vs. cavs
scottie pippen was like jordan' sidekick, so that's what they calling him, he went to miami to become wade's sidekick, it ain't looking like it by now though ;D. I wouldn't care though because pippen's an all time great and without him jordan wouldn't win those rings.
oh thats just fucked up, pippen was an alll time great and his own player, basketball fans are some retards