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Title: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: love33 on November 30, 2010, 12:14:02 PM
Dr. Dre's new style on all the tracks I've heard so far he just sounds like he's trying to rap like he's Eminem or Jay-Z.  He is mixing Miami electronic beats with the West Coast tempo and style, which is unique and cool, however, his rapping just doesn't do it anymore.  He tries to sounds like an uptempo intellectual emcee on his newer stuff and it's not intimidating at all.  He needs to change his voice back and become more intimidating like he does with some of his other songs.

What really brought Dre to the limelight was not only his production but his rapping was off the hook because he had a raw mean delivery.  He needs to rap more like he did on "Dre Day," "Nuthin but A G Thang," "Let Me Ride," and "Keep Their Heads Ringin."
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: Fonkarround on November 30, 2010, 12:38:03 PM
Agree.. I also really liked him rappin in "The Watcher".
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: Hoodlum204 on November 30, 2010, 12:54:14 PM
"Change his Flow"?? How Can He Do That When He Spitting Someone Else's Bars?? Dre Always Been Spittin Someone Else's Flow!! SMFH
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: dameons on November 30, 2010, 01:18:50 PM
He is week on the mic .Funny how he sounded upbeat on the NWA albums , then on The Chronic he slowed it waaay down to " Yeeeeeeeeeeuh" .
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: Native American on November 30, 2010, 01:20:05 PM
free post. 8)
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: Portugoal on November 30, 2010, 01:23:54 PM
The man's half a century old. He's rapped enough verses you do like.
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: Fonkarround on November 30, 2010, 02:14:01 PM
"Change his Flow"?? How Can He Do That When He Spitting Someone Else's Bars?? Dre Always Been Spittin Someone Else's Flow!! SMFH
Stop blind hating, couse then you write posts which are dumb like that one. So what he always used ghostwriters? It doesnt change anything to his flow, he is still involved into writing proccess. Compare his flow from N.W.A. days, to The Chronic ones, 2001, and then nowadays.. u still stand that its someone else's flow?
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on November 30, 2010, 02:53:29 PM
"Change his Flow"?? How Can He Do That When He Spitting Someone Else's Bars?? Dre Always Been Spittin Someone Else's Flow!! SMFH
Stop blind hating, couse then you write posts which are dumb like that one. So what he always used ghostwriters? It doesnt change anything to his flow, he is still involved into writing proccess. Compare his flow from N.W.A. days, to The Chronic ones, 2001, and then nowadays.. u still stand that its someone else's flow?

Have you not heard the reference tracks?
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: Gamestarr on November 30, 2010, 03:01:26 PM
Its a little weird, yes.. but its okay..

I would prefer his 2001 flow though..

Big Ego's..
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on November 30, 2010, 03:24:06 PM
I thought he came correct on Kush
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: So Much Style on November 30, 2010, 03:32:20 PM
i agree that dre has started sounded wierd lately (i first recognized it on hell breaks loose though ironically his flow on that has grown on me), but yeah...DRE's rappin on 2001 is very smooth and tight and i wish he could go back to that. I bumped the whole album the other day and all of his verses are nice!
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on November 30, 2010, 03:44:38 PM
isnt it obvious that Andre doesnt want to rap anymore and that it sounds forced?
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: MrJas on November 30, 2010, 05:26:34 PM
Dr Dre's Set it off remix flow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life itself
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: rhythmalism on November 30, 2010, 05:27:10 PM
His verse on "I need a Doctor" sounds forced but his verse on Kush is straight.
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: Scrappy Doo on November 30, 2010, 05:39:27 PM
i dont really care, dre got one of the best deliveries in the game if you ask me.
On Crack a Bottle for example his verse was really good if you ask me
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: MrJas on November 30, 2010, 05:54:25 PM
i dont really care, dre got one of the best deliveries in the game if you ask me.
On Crack a Bottle for example his verse was really good if you ask me

i'd have to agree there if you ask me
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on November 30, 2010, 05:59:36 PM
I always like his flow or delivery.
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: BIGWORM on November 30, 2010, 06:39:34 PM
Dr. Dre has no style period. I think thats the problem he's having with detox realizing he sounds like a different person on every track. Kush was sick I like that part were he gets kinda mad and tenses up.
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: DubWest21 on November 30, 2010, 06:42:40 PM
Agree.. I also really liked him rappin in "The Watcher".

Yeah that songs flow is great!
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: da chronic on November 30, 2010, 06:52:46 PM
Dr Dre's Set it off remix flow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life itself
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: The Predator on November 30, 2010, 07:11:23 PM
Wonder how much he will be rapping on Detox as he's retiring from the mic after.
I think he had about two solo spots on the entire '2001' album and two on the original 'Chronic', half the songs on his solo albums he's not even rapping on the tracks.

As for his flows, it does seem lately that they are not really tailor made for him, you know that deep heavy grumble that was the perfect accompaniment to what was once Snoop's silky laidback voice.

Theres been nothing memorable in his new lyrics eithier, suprising as it's mainly meant to be Eminem on the ghost-pen.

The D.O.C out of all people should be correcting Dre on this.

Lets hope Dre dont start rapping with accents like Em did or singing with auto-tune like Lil Wayne  :P
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on November 30, 2010, 07:28:24 PM
Dr. Dre needs to change his fans
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: Matty on November 30, 2010, 07:38:36 PM
he definitely sounded better on some of those other recent joints than on kush.
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on November 30, 2010, 08:12:17 PM
he definitely sounded better on some of those other recent joints than on kush.


so this is the shit everybody's on now... son's voice?  i'm sorry but y'all r "OD'ing" big time on this "Kush" song, shit isn't even all that serious.  honestly tho, threads like these are a little obsessed and mushy-gushy, we're all waiting on Detox but give tha shit a rest 4 a minute and then come back to it when it's time 4 tha release.  I know this is a Forum, but this is over kill (u could look up that word in tha dictionary and find a link to this thread).
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: Portugoal on November 30, 2010, 08:35:50 PM
i dont really care, dre got one of the best deliveries in the game if you ask me.
On Crack a Bottle for example his verse was really good if you ask me

i'd have to agree there if you ask me


no one asked you!!
















 :P
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: Hectic on November 30, 2010, 08:42:06 PM
HIS NEW GHOST WRITER IS NOT THE BUSINESS , JUST MY OPINION .. STICK TO THE FORMULA DOC !
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 30, 2010, 11:57:40 PM
If Dre wasn't too busy counting his money and laughing his ass off at your critiques when you're all gonna buy the album anyways, I'm sure he would take this advice and scrap the current project.
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: Dre-Day on December 01, 2010, 01:26:18 AM
"Change his Flow"?? How Can He Do That When He Spitting Someone Else's Bars?? Dre Always Been Spittin Someone Else's Flow!! SMFH
Stop blind hating, couse then you write posts which are dumb like that one. So what he always used ghostwriters? It doesnt change anything to his flow, he is still involved into writing proccess. Compare his flow from N.W.A. days, to The Chronic ones, 2001, and then nowadays.. u still stand that its someone else's flow?
it's not hating.

when others write for Dre, they also record vocals as guidance for him.
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: on December 01, 2010, 02:49:49 AM
Yo Dre, stick to producin  ;D

Seriously, stick to producin  8)
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: Hoodlum204 on December 01, 2010, 07:03:11 AM
"Change his Flow"?? How Can He Do That When He Spitting Someone Else's Bars?? Dre Always Been Spittin Someone Else's Flow!! SMFH
Stop blind hating, couse then you write posts which are dumb like that one. So what he always used ghostwriters? It doesnt change anything to his flow, he is still involved into writing proccess. Compare his flow from N.W.A. days, to The Chronic ones, 2001, and then nowadays.. u still stand that its someone else's flow?
it's not hating.

when others write for Dre, they also record vocals as guidance for him.

Exactley...You Got Times Like On That "Imagine" Track When Kam Was On There Originaly & Dre Just Took Kam's Place But Still Used Kam's Verse. So I Don't Know How You Can Even Mention "Changing Delivery"  ???.....LOL@ "blind hating" I Been Waiting On Detox Just Like You So STFU
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: Meho on December 01, 2010, 07:03:30 AM
I thought that his delivery on I Need A Doctor was really awkward and forced sounding. Kush is classic Dre though, strong vocal presence and authority in his voice as per usual.
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: Hoodlum204 on December 01, 2010, 07:07:22 AM
I thought that his delivery on I Need A Doctor was really awkward and forced sounding. Kush is classic Dre though, strong vocal presence and authority in his voice as per usual.
Yup!!  8)
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: DjKeyz on December 01, 2010, 07:16:13 AM
His verse on Kush is way better than Snoop's verse imo...

His voice is clearly a plus for him.
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: love33 on December 01, 2010, 04:00:36 PM
I agree with the people sayin his delivery sounds forced.  It sounds like he's just readin off a sheet as quick as he can on his verse compared to "Let Me Ride" "Keep Their Heads Ringin" "Game Over" and "The Watcher" he sounds like he has a more natural delivery on those tracks.  His Death Row tracks he sounds more comfortable behind the mic, especially "Dre Day" and "Natural Born Killaz."

I'd rather have Dre rap more intimidating and rap about beating down people and shooting versus this weak stuff he's giving us with the new raps.  I hope the second single is a diss track like "Dre Day."  He needs to rap more aggressively like he does on Chronic.  I'll take the "Death Row Dre" over "Dictionary Dre" anyday.

I agree with the others also who say they like D.O.C. writing his music instead of Eminem and Jay-Z.  Dre is not a "mechanical-anical-animalistic" rapper he's a "Keep their motha fuckin heads ringin" artist.
Title: Re: Dre Needs to Change his Delivery
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on December 01, 2010, 05:09:37 PM
I agree with the people sayin his delivery sounds forced.  It sounds like he's just readin off a sheet as quick as he can on his verse compared to "Let Me Ride" "Keep Their Heads Ringin" "Game Over" and "The Watcher" he sounds like he has a more natural delivery on those tracks.  His Death Row tracks he sounds more comfortable behind the mic, especially "Dre Day" and "Natural Born Killaz."

I'd rather have Dre rap more intimidating and rap about beating down people and shooting versus this weak stuff he's giving us with the new raps.  I hope the second single is a diss track like "Dre Day."  He needs to rap more aggressively like he does on Chronic.  I'll take the "Death Row Dre" over "Dictionary Dre" anyday.

I agree with the others also who say they like D.O.C. writing his music instead of Eminem and Jay-Z.  Dre is not a "mechanical-anical-animalistic" rapper he's a "Keep their motha fuckin heads ringin" artist.

Except the DOC didn't write any of those songs you mentioned. As a matter of fact Eminem wrote The Watcher.