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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Detox Iz Not Active on December 04, 2010, 07:34:48 PM
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With all the anticipation, hype, and acclaim around MBDTF one would have thought it was Detox that had finally dropped
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weird to compare 2 diff producers like that.
nothing is "better", one of the two styles suits the listeners perosnal taste more than the other..
do u like to compare DJ Premier with Timabaland?
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i don't have a problem comparing.
i think dre's will be better mixed when it drops. not sure if i'll like it more
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First of all, Dre doesn't have ghost producers. He gives them all full credit. And second, I do believe Detox will have MUCH cleaner production and mixing.
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its like comparing Apples and Oranges
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yeah, they're both fruit
on that note i'm pretty sure ye doesn't use ghost producers anymore and hasn't since late registration. he used to
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yeah, they're both fruit
on that note i'm pretty sure ye doesn't use ghost producers anymore and hasn't since late registration. he used to
he uses coproducers
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nothing wrong with comparing the two, they are both hip hop producers, those who say otherwise are just coping pleas for Dre
I think MBDTF will have a greater impact and be better musically, Detox will bump harder in the car and have a cleaner mix
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MBDTF production aint nothin special so it will easily be topped..
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MBDTF production aint nothin special so it will easily be topped..
nothing special? then what do you consider special?
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whtas so special bout nwe kanye album? nothin stuck in my ear,like wooow. ??? ???
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whtas so special bout nwe kanye album? nothin stuck in my ear,like wooow. ??? ???
yup, nothing really stood out to me either, heard most of the tracks n didnt even bother to download the album. its what i expected from a modern mainstream album.
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i think Detox will be better. Kanye's album is impressive but it isn't exactly my cup of tea :coffee:
The Book of David could be better than both.
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MBDTF production aint nothin special so it will easily be topped..
Exactly, the only people who rate Kanye are non-hip-hop fans, always have been, because they don't understand hip-hop production in the first place
All the rock critics are like, "wow, he sampled King Crimson," when to hip-hop producers who sample, that shit is too obvious,
but rock critics think that Kanye invented this stuff, but he's got weak snares and his beats aren't put together nice
He's ok, it's not like he's terrible, it's just he's mediocre on the beats and his rapping is poor
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That Kanye album had some weak songs on there, but I can't imagine "Detox" will be better than "Late Registration" or "The College Dropout".
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idk
Kanye is a genius and Dr. Dre is a legend. If u want my opinion I think Dre will have 2 step his game up a little (hopefully not imitating Kanye becuz y'all know how the industry goes). Dr. Dre is my preferred choice of listening but Kanye is a legend already, if u don't like him then that's merely just YOUR PERSONAL OPINION becuz his music/catalog speaks VOLUMES, in NOT JUST hip hop but music period, anybody can hear that.
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This is a pointless question on here the bias is just insane. Look at the responses above me it's pretty humorous. If detox gets anywhere close to the critical acclaim that kanyes new album got it will be a great album. And anyone that listened to his new album and calls his rapping poor and his production mediocre needs to off themselves
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This is a pointless question on here the bias is just insane. Look at the responses above me it's pretty humorous. If detox gets anywhere close to the critical acclaim that kanyes new album got it will be a great album. And anyone that listened to his new album and calls his rapping poor and his production mediocre needs to off themselves
exactly
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This is a pointless question on here the bias is just insane. Look at the responses above me it's pretty humorous. If detox gets anywhere close to the critical acclaim that kanyes new album got it will be a great album. And anyone that listened to his new album and calls his rapping poor and his production mediocre needs to off themselves
so you have no opinion?
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And anyone that listened to his new album and calls his rapping poor and his production mediocre needs to off themselves
His rapping is poor, I don't see how anyone can deny that, he has pretty much zero flow, he just talks in an annoying tone of voice.
And his beat-making is mediocre - he doesn't do anything new (if you think he does, then you need to listen to hip-hop from 1986-1994 and realize sampling has been way more clever than how Kanye does it) and he's just not that good at the craft, he doesn't have the dope snares and other sounds of a Premier or a Pete Rock
He's not bad, it's just people calling him genius and shit = LOL
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And anyone that listened to his new album and calls his rapping poor and his production mediocre needs to off themselves
if you think he does, then you need to listen to hip-hop from 1986-1994 and realize sampling has been way more clever than how Kanye does it)
you threw away your whole argument (OPINION lyke shyt) with that 1. i'm sorry my nigga but stop whoring 4 attention.
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And anyone that listened to his new album and calls his rapping poor and his production mediocre needs to off themselves
if you think he does, then you need to listen to hip-hop from 1986-1994 and realize sampling has been way more clever than how Kanye does it)
you threw away your whole argument (OPINION lyke shyt) with that 1. i'm sorry my nigga but stop whoring 4 attention.
lol at this dude - jump off my nuts and go listen to some real hip-hop, then come back,
let me guess you're like 16 or some shit right and never heard any hip-hop before 2000
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MBDTF production aint nothin special so it will easily be topped..
nothing special? then what do you consider special?
This whole MBDTF is a fuckin classic/ a masterpiece / art etc. etc. is just a BANDWAGON thing..
People read the reviews and their opinions are coloured by that..
Im sure if 90% of the people who bumped MBDTF didnt read any reviews/comments/opinions or anything like that before they bumped it their ratings would be different!
And I just think that when people praise the album the way they do there should be somethin extraordinary on the album and I really dont think there is any
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we'll see.
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And anyone that listened to his new album and calls his rapping poor and his production mediocre needs to off themselves
if you think he does, then you need to listen to hip-hop from 1986-1994 and realize sampling has been way more clever than how Kanye does it)
you threw away your whole argument (OPINION lyke shyt) with that 1. i'm sorry my nigga but stop whoring 4 attention.
lol at this dude - jump off my nuts and go listen to some real hip-hop, then come back,
let me guess you're like 16 or some shit right and never heard any hip-hop before 2000
what's real hip hop... oh wait let me guess... KRS1, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, 2Pac, Biggie, Big L and all of them right?
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MBDTF production aint nothin special so it will easily be topped..
nothing special? then what do you consider special?
This whole MBDTF is a fuckin classic/ a masterpiece / art etc. etc. is just a BANDWAGON thing..
People read the reviews and their opinions are coloured by that..
Im sure if 90% of the people who bumped MBDTF didnt read any reviews/comments/opinions or anything like that before they bumped it their ratings would be different!
And I just think that when people praise the album the way they do there should be somethin extraordinary on the album and I really dont think there is any
abstract/artistic hip hop is more popular than u think it is. i don't even listen to Kanye like that but I know he's onto something with this album, whether it's a stepping stone towards a new direction or just something 2 give 2 tha people before tha Holidays to make a quick buck.
if it's a "Bandwagon" thing then The 1st couple of A Tribe Called Quest albums are weak and only have a handful of good songs on them between the 1st 2 albums.
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anyone that listened to his new album and calls his rapping poor and his production mediocre needs to off themselves
This. And anyone who starts talking about "real hip hop" needs to off themselves.
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And anyone that listened to his new album and calls his rapping poor and his production mediocre needs to off themselves
His rapping is poor, I don't see how anyone can deny that, he has pretty much zero flow, he just talks in an annoying tone of voice.
And his beat-making is mediocre - he doesn't do anything new (if you think he does, then you need to listen to hip-hop from 1986-1994 and realize sampling has been way more clever than how Kanye does it) and he's just not that good at the craft, he doesn't have the dope snares and other sounds of a Premier or a Pete Rock
He's not bad, it's just people calling him genius and shit = LOL
you bithces says his beat making is mediocre, then tell me who has amazing beat making?
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It's easy to tell who on this board are just kids who haven't listened to much hip-hop,
because as soon as someone points this out, they just tell that person to "off themselves"
or call them a bitch or a whore or whatever, instead of just having a normal conversation like grown ups
When you guys grow up and want to actually discuss hip-hop instead of trying to come up with some
playground insults, let us all know
Let me guess, your replies will be -
"LOLZ, if u r talking bout growing up then u need 2 go off yoself, homz" ::)
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what stands out to me the most about mbdtf is how creative it is, not really the production. ye always seems to bring something different to the table, which in my opinion is what makes him so successful. i would say the same thing about kid cudi - his songs just sound different, which is what i like.
detox should top it production wise, i just hope dre comes with something creative / new as well. i would be surprised if he didn't.
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It's easy to tell who on this board are just kids who haven't listened to much hip-hop,
because as soon as someone points this out, they just tell that person to "off themselves"
or call them a bitch or a whore or whatever, instead of just having a normal conversation like grown ups
When you guys grow up and want to actually discuss hip-hop instead of trying to come up with some
playground insults, let us all know
Let me guess, your replies will be -
"LOLZ, if u r talking bout growing up then u need 2 go off yoself, homz" ::)
naw son it's not that, ur just on your own with tha whole "kanye is average" thing. how can u say that and "go listen to some real hip hop" in tha same sentence. face it, you're alone on this 1, not becuz of wat u think. me personally i'm 22 but i know i probably have more knowledge on this game than u and alot of people on here and just in general period (i can back that up too but why, i don't get into all of that). u say "Grow Up" but since nobody agrees with u then we're all children and you're the adult (don't think so).
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i feel like dre will make another 2001, which is all good and stuff, but, thats not doing anything 'new', (if we can use kush as a ruler)
k-west is really trying to do different stuff, especially by rap standards./
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Its easy to see the people who think they know more than they do. Because they take on this elitist attitude and start talking about "real hip hop" as if there's any such thing as fake hip hop. And in any argument they'll bring up a non sequitur like say "oh you must be a kid who doesn't listen to much hip hop". I know this 'cause I was in that phase 3 years ago ;D
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Its easy to see the people who think they know more than they do. Because they take on this elitist attitude and start talking about "real hip hop" as if there's any such thing as fake hip hop. And in any argument they'll bring up a non sequitur like say "oh you must be a kid who doesn't listen to much hip hop". I know this 'cause I was in that phase 3 years ago ;D
UCC does make a valid point about this forum though, some posters do act immature on here.
not saying that it applies to you though
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Its easy to see the people who think they know more than they do. Because they take on this elitist attitude and start talking about "real hip hop" as if there's any such thing as fake hip hop. And in any argument they'll bring up a non sequitur like say "oh you must be a kid who doesn't listen to much hip hop". I know this 'cause I was in that phase 3 years ago ;D
UCC does make a valid point about this forum though, some posters do act immature on here.
not saying that it applies to you though
that's becuz they're lames in real life and it shows in their dialect. it's like it's cool 2 hate and that just isn't tha business. uccmouth came across as a hater and somebody who obviously doesn't know much about tha guy (artist) he's dissing/talking about. plus people on here act like they can't read and interpret shit right and sometimes act like they don't know just 4 kicks (goes back 2 your point). some people are just cool with exposing themselves, go figure.
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Kush did sound banging on the new new Best Buy commercial
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If you don't like kanye then just say it, Ucc you have an obvious bias. If his rapping is so poor then why does everyone agree he's been murdering everyone on thier own songs? And if his production is so mediocre why has had a part in the production of multiple of classics with everyone wanting his beats? Take your head out of your ass. Just because you have old mam syndrome doesn't mean hip hop stopped being great after the 90s. Your just stuck in the past, take your head out of your and the hate out of your ears. Everyone has artists they just don't like, but that doesn't make the artist poor, just not to your taste. Learn the difference.
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Kanye used to be a horrible genuine rapper. He's improved considerably by technical standards but still doesn't hang with the best when it comes to flow. He's learned to be more emotive and his pen game has stepped up several notches. He's a dope MC now and where he lacks he picks up in other areas.
Game is a better vocalist.
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Kanye no doubt has very good production on his album. Dre came with something different on Under Pressure but the response to that was not favorable, granted it was not a finished track. I think he will stick to his forumula on Detox with maybe a few surprises.
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under pressure is a joke, if that was the single i would be sooooooooooooo much more pessimistic then with kush (pretty much the only thing that REALLY annoys me about that song is akon, and the fact that i was naive to think that dre would actually want to do something different instead of rapping about blunts booze and bitches (at 46).
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under pressure is a joke, if that was the single i would be sooooooooooooo much more pessimistic then with kush (pretty much the only thing that REALLY annoys me about that song is akon, and the fact that i was naive to think that dre would actually want to do something different instead of rapping about blunts booze and bitches (at 46).
well Dre said it himself in previous interviews, so i can understand why you were expecting something different
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Dre sounds dope on under pressure more so then he does on Kush. Jay-Z sounded terrible. He should've released under pressure with Eminem
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Dre sounds dope on under pressure more so then he does on Kush. Jay-Z sounded terrible. He should've released under pressure with Eminem
whoa... that's completely wack. Dre was cool on UP, Jay MURDERED UP, and Eminem would've sounded completely outta place on that.
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MBDTF production aint nothin special so it will easily be topped..
nothing special? then what do you consider special?
This whole MBDTF is a fuckin classic/ a masterpiece / art etc. etc. is just a BANDWAGON thing..
People read the reviews and their opinions are coloured by that..
Im sure if 90% of the people who bumped MBDTF didnt read any reviews/comments/opinions or anything like that before they bumped it their ratings would be different!
And I just think that when people praise the album the way they do there should be somethin extraordinary on the album and I really dont think there is any
Nope, downloaded it as soon as the explicit version leaked, listened to it and liked it.
Dark fantasy is one of the best beats this year, the original hook was much better though.
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MBDTF production aint nothin special so it will easily be topped..
nothing special? then what do you consider special?
This whole MBDTF is a fuckin classic/ a masterpiece / art etc. etc. is just a BANDWAGON thing..
People read the reviews and their opinions are coloured by that..
Im sure if 90% of the people who bumped MBDTF didnt read any reviews/comments/opinions or anything like that before they bumped it their ratings would be different!
And I just think that when people praise the album the way they do there should be somethin extraordinary on the album and I really dont think there is any
Nope, downloaded it as soon as the explicit version leaked, listened to it and liked it.
Dark fantasy is one of the best beats this year, the original hook was much better though.
yeah how can it be a bandwagon when it leaked so early? Dubcc had the album weeks before the album or any reviews came out
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Dre sounds dope on under pressure more so then he does on Kush. Jay-Z sounded terrible. He should've released under pressure with Eminem
whoa... that's completely wack. Dre was cool on UP, Jay MURDERED UP, and Eminem would've sounded completely outta place on that.
I thought both Dre and Jay sounded uncomfortable on the track, I don't know about Em over this type of beat as well.
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Dre sounds dope on under pressure more so then he does on Kush. Jay-Z sounded terrible. He should've released under pressure with Eminem
whoa... that's completely wack. Dre was cool on UP, Jay MURDERED UP, and Eminem would've sounded completely outta place on that.
I thought both Dre and Jay sounded uncomfortable on the track, I don't know about Em over this type of beat as well.
matter of fact, if Eminem turned this into a pop-techno track and did it with some UK Techno band on it (playing sounds and all) and just really making it different but with their heart and soul in it it couldn't be bad, it could be phenomenal.
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The new Ye album will only be valued entirely by those who have rocked with him since College Dropout or Late Registration.
They saw him grow, try different styles and finally drop a classic (this may surpass all previous albums).
Detox will bump but won't leave the listener with much after the album is played in its entirety.
True they both can't be compared in music but they can be compared according to their accomplishments.
I think Kanye has put in more work and will be remembered longer than Dre in the realm of music.
So my opinion, Detox will not top My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.
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Oh and another thing, in leading up to both albums I remember hearing 'Kush' and it wasn't that great.
But when GOOD Fridays came along and I heard tracks like 'GOOD Friday' with C. Wilson, Cudi & Big Sean or 'Monster'?
Those were in heavy rotation and it felt GOOD to listen to Ye producing a sound that was new, fresh and risky.
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The new Ye album will only be valued entirely by those who have rocked with him since College Dropout or Late Registration.
They saw him grow, try different styles and finally drop a classic (this may surpass all previous albums).
Detox will bump but won't leave the listener with much after the album is played in its entirety.
True they both can't be compared in music but they can be compared according to their accomplishments.
I think Kanye has put in more work and will be remembered longer than Dre in the realm of music.
So my opinion, Detox will not top My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.
Dr. Dre will already be remembered forever. Even if you never listened to Hip Hop like or ever you know who Dr. Dre is and what he's done. He's literally the greatest Producer in Hip Hop history.
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Is it me or are the tracks on Kanye's new album waaaay too long? I prefer short Dre tracks than a plodding 7 minute "opus" that gets boring and repetitive 4 mintues deep. I don't think you can do rap tracks that long, generally speaking.
I mean you gotta give a guitarist his props if he's wailing away for 3 mins but if your playing the same drum beat and melody for 5 minutes it gets fuckin boring.
I can't even listen to Kanye's album, well the whole thing, because the shit gets so repetitive.
So on that point, production judgement calls, I'm gonna feel safe giving it to Dre. Also Kanye didn't do anything to blow my mind but I'll admit a lot of the songs are awesome, I just press skip a few minutes in. I think Dre can do better for sure.
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The new Ye album will only be valued entirely by those who have rocked with him since College Dropout or Late Registration.
They saw him grow, try different styles and finally drop a classic (this may surpass all previous albums).
Detox will bump but won't leave the listener with much after the album is played in its entirety.
True they both can't be compared in music but they can be compared according to their accomplishments.
I think Kanye has put in more work and will be remembered longer than Dre in the realm of music.
So my opinion, Detox will not top My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.
Dr. Dre will already be remembered forever. Even if you never listened to Hip Hop like or ever you know who Dr. Dre is and what he's done. He's literally the greatest Producer in Hip Hop history.
In later years when we are all either senior or have passed away, our great grandkids can look back through the history pages of music and see Kanye on page 2 and Dre on page 87 under 'Hip-hop'.
This is of course a statement I made based on their mainstream success.
It was alot easier to produce bangin tracks in Dre's era and for other producers to emulate that sound. Hip-hop was in the West Coast's backyard.
Try do that now. It's almost near impossible to produce something as good as My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.
Overall, this is all based on Dre's production on every project including his own in the past two years.
My opinion may change entirely when Detox drops though so we'll see.
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In later years when we are all either senior or have passed away, our great grandkids can look back through the history pages of music and see Kanye on page 2 and Dre on page 87 under 'Hip-hop'.
This is of course a statement I made based on their mainstream success.
Are you high?
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They'll both be remembered equally for their respective eras. From NWA to Snoop Dogg to Eminem. That's like a 20+ year legacy and that's not including the smaller artist like 50 Cent, Game, G-Unit, etc.
Kanye will be remembered for his music and resurrecting Common & Jay-Z's career (yes, Kanye west saved Jay-z's career).
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In later years when we are all either senior or have passed away, our great grandkids can look back through the history pages of music and see Kanye on page 2 and Dre on page 87 under 'Hip-hop'.
This is of course a statement I made based on their mainstream success.
Are you high?
No I am completely aware of what I'm saying. I'm not saying Dre will be forgotten but if you think hip-hop? Dre, Pac, Jay-Z, Nas etc. (the greats) but music overall in the 21st century you'll definitely see Kanye alongside Coldplay, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Justin Timberlake etc. (cultural icons).
Dre will not be part of that I hate to say. But this is steering away from the thread topic.
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In later years when we are all either senior or have passed away, our great grandkids can look back through the history pages of music and see Kanye on page 2 and Dre on page 87 under 'Hip-hop'.
This is of course a statement I made based on their mainstream success.
Are you high?
No I am completely aware of what I'm saying. I'm not saying Dre will be forgotten but if you think hip-hop? Dre, Pac, Jay-Z, Nas etc. (the greats) but music overall in the 21st century you'll definitely see Kanye alongside Coldplay, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Justin Timberlake etc. (cultural icons).
Dre will not be part of that I hate to say. But this is steering away from the thread topic.
Elk is right tho. Vocally Dr. Dre hasn't done shit for the past decade (almost literally) so it's not like kids have grown up with him. Even though there's Eminem and 50 Cent that doesn't automatically mean Dr. Dre will be held in the same light, he made the beats, they made the Raps, who's more memorable in the situation (the rapper who's speaking ALL OVER the songs or the producer who stays in the background and doesn't say much if at all anything?).
Y'all know what I know about Dr. Dre but like I've said before 1 person can count on they hands how many Dr. Dre raps have come out since 2000 and that was 10/11 years ago. Let's keep it 100. And no nobody isn't taking away from Dr. Dre becuz Dr. Dre is in a whole different caliber of artists when it comes to things (there's Elvis Presley, there's 2Pac, there's U2, there's Metallica, and then there's Dr. Dre), his name and catalog has an importance to society.
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The new Ye album will only be valued entirely by those who have rocked with him since College Dropout or Late Registration.
They saw him grow, try different styles and finally drop a classic (this may surpass all previous albums).
Detox will bump but won't leave the listener with much after the album is played in its entirety.
True they both can't be compared in music but they can be compared according to their accomplishments.
I think Kanye has put in more work and will be remembered longer than Dre in the realm of music.
So my opinion, Detox will not top My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.
Dr. Dre will already be remembered forever. Even if you never listened to Hip Hop like or ever you know who Dr. Dre is and what he's done. He's literally the greatest Producer in Hip Hop history.
Because popularity means he's the greatest?
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Detox will go down as 1 of the most IMPORTANT Hip Hop albums of all time. Why, becuz Dr. Dre is kinda like passing the torch in a way with this album. I mean after Detox what is there, it's anybody's game 2 take tha ball and run with it. Regardless of how the albums turns out to be or what numbers he does or anything you can base off of tangible success. It's anybody's game, after Dr. Dre there's no1.
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its like comparing Apples and Oranges
why? its all hip hop.. then again in this day and age hip hop has grown so much that it does have different genres.
If you look at Rock music, there is also different genres so with that said you cannot compare Heavy Metal to blues rock or to Punk rock.
feel me?
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Nah, Kanye got him
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Dre sounds dope on under pressure more so then he does on Kush. Jay-Z sounded terrible. He should've released under pressure with Eminem
whoa... that's completely wack. Dre was cool on UP, Jay MURDERED UP, and Eminem would've sounded completely outta place on that.
I thought both Dre and Jay sounded uncomfortable on the track, I don't know about Em over this type of beat as well.
Dre's delivery was weird
In later years when we are all either senior or have passed away, our great grandkids can look back through the history pages of music and see Kanye on page 2 and Dre on page 87 under 'Hip-hop'.
This is of course a statement I made based on their mainstream success.
Are you high?
No I am completely aware of what I'm saying. I'm not saying Dre will be forgotten but if you think hip-hop? Dre, Pac, Jay-Z, Nas etc. (the greats) but music overall in the 21st century you'll definitely see Kanye alongside Coldplay, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Justin Timberlake etc. (cultural icons).
Dre will not be part of that I hate to say. But this is steering away from the thread topic.
it does make a lot of difference whether Detox drops
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In later years when we are all either senior or have passed away, our great grandkids can look back through the history pages of music and see Kanye on page 2 and Dre on page 87 under 'Hip-hop'.
This is of course a statement I made based on their mainstream success.
Are you high?
No I am completely aware of what I'm saying. I'm not saying Dre will be forgotten but if you think hip-hop? Dre, Pac, Jay-Z, Nas etc. (the greats) but music overall in the 21st century you'll definitely see Kanye alongside Coldplay, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Justin Timberlake etc. (cultural icons).
Dre will not be part of that I hate to say. But this is steering away from the thread topic.
lmao Kanye isn't a cultural Icon. Maybe one day he will go down as being greater than Dre if he continues to be successful. But as of right now? He's not on Dre's level yet. He hasn't pioneered an entire sound of hip hop. He may have dabbed outside of hip hop a little because of 808s and Heartbreak, but most people still see him as a rapper. And frankly he's more recognized for his antics than his musical output.
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In later years when we are all either senior or have passed away, our great grandkids can look back through the history pages of music and see Kanye on page 2 and Dre on page 87 under 'Hip-hop'.
This is of course a statement I made based on their mainstream success.
Are you high?
Just for the heck of it, what sound has Dre pioneered and which era did it take place? What albums? I'm not taking jabs, it's a direct question. And this time, again I'm not high.
No I am completely aware of what I'm saying. I'm not saying Dre will be forgotten but if you think hip-hop? Dre, Pac, Jay-Z, Nas etc. (the greats) but music overall in the 21st century you'll definitely see Kanye alongside Coldplay, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Justin Timberlake etc. (cultural icons).
Dre will not be part of that I hate to say. But this is steering away from the thread topic.
lmao Kanye isn't a cultural Icon. Maybe one day he will go down as being greater than Dre if he continues to be successful. But as of right now? He's not on Dre's level yet. He hasn't pioneered an entire sound of hip hop. He may have dabbed outside of hip hop a little because of 808s and Heartbreak, but most people still see him as a rapper. And frankly he's more recognized for his antics than his musical output.
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Also if it makes any difference, if I had to take a road trip or be in a situation similar and I had Dre and Ye to choose from, I WILL choose Dre.
Dre is partially why I'm apart of this forum and a fan of West Coast hip-hop.
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Kanye more like the modern day dr.dre. They're both incredibly influential for their respective eras. Also, the entire new school is influenced by Kanye. Drake's style is Kanye's 808s sans auto-tune
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idk
Kanye is a genius and Dr. Dre is a legend. If u want my opinion I think Dre will have 2 step his game up a little (hopefully not imitating Kanye becuz y'all know how the industry goes). Dr. Dre is my preferred choice of listening but Kanye is a legend already, if u don't like him then that's merely just YOUR PERSONAL OPINION becuz his music/catalog speaks VOLUMES, in NOT JUST hip hop but music period, anybody can hear that.
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I'm a BIG fan of Kanye, but I seriously don't understand the hype for MBDTF. There were like 3-4 good cuts, and the rest of it ranged from decent to garbage. His older albums are easily better.
As for who will have the better produced album, only time will tell, but I think Dre is gonna take this one.