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Title: Me Against The World was Pac's best album...
Post by: dpgc2002 on December 26, 2002, 10:37:29 AM
It's so far ahead of Pac's work with Death Row it ain't even funny...After Pac went to the Row he started to make mostly  generic west coast gangsta music...And Snoop and DPG were alot better at making that type of music than Pac...Me Against The World was Pac's shining moment in hiphop...The album is almost flawless...
Title: Re:Me Against The World was Pac's best album...
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on December 26, 2002, 11:08:47 AM
Yep I agree 100%, although the Makaveli album is pretty close to it. This is the real Pac at his best, there ain't one track on this album that I ain't feeling. I enjoyed Pac hooking up with DPG and co on Death Row, and he did make some classic tracks whilst on DR, but it wasn't really Pac, and in trying to hold down that image over a double disc album (All Eyez On Me), Pac failed to maintain consistancy throughout the album.
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Post by: mauzip on December 26, 2002, 11:27:02 AM
Lyrically I agree with you, but the music on All Eyez On Me was better I think. But I don't really wanna choose because 2Pac is 2Pac and although I am not ghetto al all his lyrics touch me and they make me think.
Title: Re:Me Against The World was Pac's best album...
Post by: smartass on December 26, 2002, 11:43:42 AM
at least someone else realized this. i can't stand listening to aeom anymore.
Title: Re:Me Against The World was Pac's best album...
Post by: Lord Funk on December 26, 2002, 11:51:27 AM
It's so far ahead of Pac's work with Death Row it ain't even funny...After Pac went to the Row he started to make mostly  generic west coast gangsta music...And Snoop and DPG were alot better at making that type of music than Pac...Me Against The World was Pac's shining moment in hiphop...The album is almost flawless...

Agreed 100%. All Eyez On Me was a great album in its own right, but within Death Row's legacy it wasn't all that - Chronic, Doggystyle and Dogg Food were all more polished albums. But as for MATW... shit, one of the top hip hop albums made. True, Makaveli is very close to it, but MATW is one of those CDs that is so polished you could play it to someone with no experience of or interest in rap music and they would appreciate it.
Title: Re:Me Against The World was Pac's best album...
Post by: D1G1T4L on December 26, 2002, 11:58:15 AM
huh? me against the world doesnt have half the bangers all eyez on me has

maybe lyrics are good but i listen to music not because of lyrics, i listen to music because of the songs that make you want to bounce etc

if i cared about lyrics, 2pac isnt the best person to listen, might as well listen to canibus or some crazy freestylers

as far as bangers, all eyez on me > *
Title: Re:Me Against The World was Pac's best album...
Post by: dexter on December 26, 2002, 12:32:17 PM
^Tru Dat^ D1G1T4L knows the reel deal.
Title: Re:Me Against The World was Pac's best album...
Post by: Dedicato on December 26, 2002, 01:52:14 PM
def. one of his best records
Title: Re:Me Against The World was Pac's best album...
Post by: verbalassaulta on December 26, 2002, 06:34:36 PM
well i dont agree with you...aeom to me is better than the chronic and doggystyle...2pac is just flat out a better rapper than dre and even snoop in his prime and the production was just as good on aeom...and im not even gonna bother comparing it to dogg food which i think is really overrated...and me against the world is a dope album..just not as good as aeom
Title: Re:Me Against The World was Pac's best album...
Post by: js83 on December 26, 2002, 06:41:46 PM
great album..aeom was my fav though...
Title: Re:Me Against The World was Pac's best album...
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 26, 2002, 08:36:32 PM
7 Day Theory = greatest album ever recorded IMO

I love MATW and AEOM as much as the next man, but they aint touching this album.
Title: Re:Me Against The World was Pac's best album...
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 26, 2002, 08:39:25 PM
well i dont agree with you...aeom to me is better than the chronic and doggystyle...2pac is just flat out a better rapper than dre and even snoop in his prime and the production was just as good on aeom...and im not even gonna bother comparing it to dogg food which i think is really overrated...and me against the world is a dope album..just not as good as aeom

I agree with most of that. AEOM is better than The Chronic or Doggystyle, though all three albums are pretty close. Dogg Food is sooooooooooooo overrated, and is nowhere near AEOM. The only thing The Chronic and Doggystyle have on AEOM is production, and not by much. AEOM has them beat lyrically and conceptually, not to mention its a far more diverse album than either Dre or Snoop's classics.

Im not sure if AEOM is better than MATW though. I think they're about equal. But like I said in my last post, Makaveli is better than BOTH of them.
Title: Re:Me Against The World was Pac's best album...
Post by: Native_Joe99 on December 26, 2002, 08:54:32 PM
Sorry bruh, but you have to listen to the lyrics, but it takes a good beat and good lyrics, to make a tight song, if you just want the beat, go listen to bass cds or instrumentals or some ish like that.
Title: Re:Me Against The World was Pac's best album...
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 26, 2002, 09:10:28 PM
Here are Pac's 6 "official" albums ranked in order of greatness [note: just albums Pac released while he was alive, not post humous albums]:

1. 7 Day Theory
2. Me Against The World & All Eyez On Me tied
3. 2Pacaplyse Now
4. Thug Life
5. Strictly 4 My Niggaz
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Post by: IKON on December 26, 2002, 10:20:07 PM
MATW was a great album and was definitiely his most emotional (he dealt with so many emotions on that album)
AEOM was more of a party westcoast gangsta album but it still stands as my favorite, I will never get tired of listening to it
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Post by: M Dogg™ on December 26, 2002, 11:49:40 PM
7 Day Theroy, and Me Against the World are too different to compare. All Eyez On Me was not meant to be a classic I think, just more of an introduction to Death Row, that accidently got the title classic. The main purpose it seemed was to sell hits, and lots of them, not be a hip-hop classic, but it was.

As for Me Against the World, it was just straight 2Pac at his best. I felt 2Pac, all he stood for, an Fuck the World. It was the best 2Pac album I've ever heard.

7 Day Theroy was more of a straight raw 2Pac. It didn't seem like 2Pac was rapping, but 2Pac's rage, his wrath. And in that, it was his greatest album because he was not himself, but a lyrical killer.

Which 2Pac you prefer, you decide. I can listen to either CD without skipping a track, and have now for 6 to 7 years, at least once a week, and when certain moods hit, 3 times a day. I personally like Me Against the World, because I can feel it, the dealing with his mom like I dd mine, the growing up hopeless just to be an Outlaw, all that shit. But Makaveli was more my alter ego. When I pissed, or I wanna holla at a girl, or I just need to be a thug, I play that, and get into that. Which ever 'Pac is yours. But both are unquestionabily hip-hop classics, and should be regonized as such.