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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on December 20, 2010, 09:02:29 PM
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they gave it 4 mics, but the writers tone is still negative. Daz and Kurupt were "cockblockin" Snoop, and Dre's production is critiqued.. plus, they referred to Snoop as a "nigga" (professionalism in The Source Magazine's journalism improved during the years.. lol)
interesting thing bout this review, is that it confirms that the other "Niggaz dont give a fuck"-version is the orignal versoin (not the remix)..
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how did the source gain cred again?? lol
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thanks for this. Interesting that at that time they knew about both the unreleased version of niggaz don't give a fuck, and tha next episode. Makes you wonder if those songs were actually distributed in some format to magazines, dj's, etc.
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well, the tape (wit 9 deathrow-demos) that recently leaked online, was available for purchase on bootleg-casettes in Swap Meats before "Doggysytle" released.. Snoop leaked them..
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Is this the review that complains about the first verse not being Snoop? (even tho Rage spits the hottest verse on the album lol)
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The funny thing is that I bet the Source would pretend this review doesn't exist today. SMH @ this.
What were they smokin? Certainly wasn't the Chronic. 8)
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The funny thing is that I bet the Source would pretend this review doesn't exist today. SMH @ this.
For one of their anniversaries, they went back and gave 5 mics to this, The Chronic, and 2001. They especially apologized for their Doggystyle review since it was the least positive of the three.
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thanks for this. Interesting that at that time they knew about both the unreleased version of niggaz don't give a fuck, and tha next episode. Makes you wonder if those songs were actually distributed in some format to magazines, dj's, etc.
yea, i think that this is true. unfortunately, its like so many of these early promos are just lost now...
in this day and age, any radio person would immediately save any advances they get, and leak them when the time is right (i.e. they would leak songs that were on the promo that didn't make the retail and they realized would never be released).
i heard somewhere that 'The Next Episode' was on promotional copies of Doggystyle given to the press/media before the street date.
I also heard that a song called 'God Don't Like Ugly' was an early promo copy of the album that was reviewed/previewed by ... The Source also? i forgot what magazine. Supposedly that song had a children's choir singing the chorus.
either way, i mean, i really don't know for the most part, lol. i would assume that if some of these unreleased songs were given to the press/media, that whoever got them a) lost them b) had to give the advance cd back to the label and never got to copy it or c) wants to be the only person with these songs and has zero intention of leaking it. to be quite honest, i'm going with c). the internet has made it such that so little shit in this world is rare anymore. that creates an incentive to hang on to whatever truly rare shit you have and not just show it to everyone.
everything leaks eventually though. so we'll see.
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in this day and age, any radio person would immediately save any advances they get, and leak them when the time is right (i.e. they would leak songs that were on the promo that didn't make the retail and they realized would never be released).
I think you could be mistaking about that. In '03 Cash Money sent out a few promos of TQ's Gemini album at least one unreleased song and none of that ever leaked. That one song did leak eventually when TQ started to sell it five years later.
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thanks for this.
+1
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Chad Vader probably posted it a long time ago.
anyway, lol at korrupt :laugh:
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they are right in that I remember Suge made them rush the album out to capitalize on Black Friday sales
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they are right in that I remember Suge made them rush the album out to capitalize on Black Friday sales
and snoop had a buzz
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Epic fail review.
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True and it still turned out to be one of the greatest hiphop albums to this day.
Snoops unique flow still aint been replicated and his funk spit on this was just on some other shit. Nigga was blazing rhymes like it was nuttin back in the day. Too many ill joints on this.
Funny thing is if hiphop was filled with alot of these white clowns for fans that are here now complaining on anything party and scared of a track for women, an album like dogystyle would probably get shitted on. lmao
All time classic lyrics like '1,2,3 n to tha 4...' and such would get hated on by a lot of these uncultured fans, shits crazy looking back at hiphop, i've been in this game for too long lol
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I don't know how they could even BEGIN to critique the production at all. Dre completely perfected his style on Doggystyle. It even makes The Chronic sound slightly over-produced.
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LOL @ "Doggystyle is only half the album we exptected"
shit what are they gonna write about Detox expectations?
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Someone need to put up this review so i can read it,
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Someone need to put up this review so i can read it,
Check the OP
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The what now
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The original post has a link to the review
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Anyone have a link to the one where tey gave it 5 mics?
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http://rapresearcharchive.blogspot.com/2010/06/snoop-dogg-doggystyle-god-dont-like.html
that is the preview that The Source did in July 93 of the album. It references 'God Don't Like Ugly'. Maybe that song became murder was the case? who knows. someone track down whoever wrote that preview and ask them if they still have the advance cd they wrote the preview based on :P. lol.
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The ONE valid criticism I saw in that article was how to some degree it did feel like a compilation, and lmao at the line "you don't want a preview of the next niggas album" (That was kinda common on DR at the time)
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The ONE valid criticism I saw in that article was how to some degree it did feel like a compilation, and lmao at the line "you don't want a preview of the next niggas album" (That was kinda common on DR at the time)
Doggystyle does feel like a Dogg Pound album of sorts, but that certainly doesn't make it any less classic.
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i wonder what the Source first gave AEOM
i know Vibe gave it a bad review saying nobody would remember it lmao
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i wonder what the Source first gave AEOM
i know Vibe gave it a bad review saying nobody would remember it lmao
The Source didn't review "All Eyez On Me", until 2002.
They gave it 5 mics.
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The ONE valid criticism I saw in that article was how to some degree it did feel like a compilation, and lmao at the line "you don't want a preview of the next niggas album" (That was kinda common on DR at the time)
Doggystyle does feel like a Dogg Pound album of sorts, but that certainly doesn't make it any less classic.
True it does kinda feel like a Dre produced "Dogg Pound album, Starring Snoop Dogg"
Although i must say, hearing Rage on that G-Funk Intro had me pumped for her Dre produced solo... Gfunk in it's stride, and with rage rhyming over those type beats?!
But we got Murder was The Case instead...
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The ONE valid criticism I saw in that article was how to some degree it did feel like a compilation, and lmao at the line "you don't want a preview of the next niggas album" (That was kinda common on DR at the time)
That was an idea that I believed Dre took from Ruthless when he went over to Death Row. Ruthless did the same thing on all of their early albums, basically having a preview of their next album to come out. Actually, I always thought that idea was ingenious. The only problem is, the release of rap albums has become so unreliable in recent years, some of the latest times I've seen artists try this, the album that was promised never dropped (ex: Hittman, Young Zee, etc.) .
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Rightfully so, we can look back and hate on the Source and use this review as proof that they were ridin East Coast dick all those years, but don't forget this is the same Source mag that just 3 short years later featured Ice Cube on the cover throwing up the Dubb, and also did a feature on Dre leaving Death Row which is the single greatest hip-hop interview/article I have ever, and will ever read...
...So my point is, I would rather have ol' school hip-hop heads from the 80's New York generation running the magazine and downgrading the quality of classic West Coast music as was the case then... then what we have now with a newer generation of writers with no backbone pandering to Southern trash like Lil Wayne that is fucking up the industry.
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i wonder what the Source first gave AEOM
i know Vibe gave it a bad review saying nobody would remember it lmao
LMAO at Vibe saying "nobody would remember" possibly the most memorable rap album of all time... EPIC EPIC fail. I think this is also a sign of just how great hip-hop used to be that people had such high expectations for a Snoop album or a 2pac album, that they could come with perfection and people still wanted and expected more out of them, such a high standard they had achieved in those days.
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The funny thing is that I bet the Source would pretend this review doesn't exist today. SMH @ this.
What were they smokin? Certainly wasn't the Chronic. 8)
They had an issue maybe 5 years back where they upgraded a load of 4 mic albums to 5 mics, Doggystyle was one of them.
They also spoke about the original review basically saying they were so hyped about Snoop after the chronic, when they heard doggystyle they were dissapointed due to the number of guest appearences.
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The funny thing is that I bet the Source would pretend this review doesn't exist today. SMH @ this.
What were they smokin? Certainly wasn't the Chronic. 8)
They had an issue maybe 5 years back where they upgraded a load of 4 mic albums to 5 mics, Doggystyle was one of them.
They also spoke about the original review basically saying they were so hyped about Snoop after the chronic, when they heard doggystyle they were dissapointed due to the number of guest appearences.
Since Dre knew something that they didn't know back then. Dre knew that Snoop, as great as he was, was not an artist that could carry a whole album on his own, and that he needed support from the All-Star cast that they had at the label to keep Snoop always sounding fresh. Cause back then everyone thought that anything Snooped dropped would just magically be dope, we realized later that it was Dre holding him to that high standard all along.
This is why when the Slim Shady LP came out in 1999 I knew Dre had a great respect for Eminem as an emcee, letting Eminem carry 98% of the album all on his own, Dre had an appearance on "Guilty Conscience" and Royce was superb on "Bad Meetz Evil", but to think Dre let Eminem carry the rest of that album all on his own is really a great credit to Eminem's unbelievable skill.
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It was less about Snoop not being able to carry an album and more about promoting the other artists on the label. That was Death Row's way of doing things. Snoop had the star power and gave the other artists shine.
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It was less about Snoop not being able to carry an album and more about promoting the other artists on the label. That was Death Row's way of doing things. Snoop had the star power and gave the other artists shine.
Name one time in his whole career where Snoop has been able to carry a whole album? Snoop isn't that kind of artist. Artists like Eminem or Nas can carry whole albums.
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Ego Trippin had only 1 song with features.
Snoop always features his rap associates, none of whom are even remotely as famous as he is. Don't you think its a case of him letting them get some shine? He doesn't need to have features.