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Title: If I Was Suge and I was Exec. Pro. "Tha Dogg Father" I would've...
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 23, 2010, 01:34:59 PM
waited until february or August of 1997 to release it.  that way Snoop could've eased people in on the funky gap band style of production with those soundtrack joints.  


In that time I would've re-worked it and told Snoop to take some beats from here and there and told tha other niggaz to use something else in tha vault that they wanted to put out.  


It would've went more like this:


01 - Intro

02 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vugieC45Q8 I would've brought that beat from Swoop G and used it for Snoop.

03 - Ride 4 Me

04 - Too Blacc

05 - Groupie

06 - When I Grow Up

07 - County Blues

08 - Up Jumps Tha Boogie

09 - You Thought

10 - Blueberry
 
11 - Downtown Assassins
 
12 - Dippin' In My Lo Lo

13 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrlNDVGnbc0&feature=related this would've sound right in 97'.  snoop solo

14 - Traffic Jam/Midnight Love

15 - Vapors

16 - Outro

17 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOzLFpdQuG8 *The perfect solo 4 Snoop, a "close out" type of track that's not a direct close out.


http://polskihh.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/snoop-dogg-tha-doggfather-1996.jpg

"Snoop's Upside Ya Head" could've went on the "Gridlock'd" Soundtrack.  It would've helped blend  him in, it was crazy hearin him without Dre on the album.  
Title: Re: If I Was Suge and I was Exec. Pro. "Tha Dogg Father" I would've...
Post by: Black Excellence on December 23, 2010, 01:37:50 PM
the album's great as it is.
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 23, 2010, 01:38:30 PM
the album's great as it is.

naw it's kinda soft.  it lacked testicular fortitude!
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Post by: HighEyeCue on December 23, 2010, 01:45:00 PM
what about Gold Rush? that was my jam 8)
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Post by: Black Excellence on December 23, 2010, 01:45:34 PM
the album's great as it is.

naw it's kinda soft.  it lacked testicular fortitude!
the thing that i liked about the album (although dre's absent) is snoop progressed as a emcee from a ghetto nigga to some slick pimp shit and it worked well him being at death row and the big things they was doing at the time.
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Post by: Mietek23 on December 23, 2010, 01:46:51 PM
Your 14 years too late dude - give it up, walk outside to breathe some fresh air and reconnect with the natural world instead of living in a fantasy one.
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 23, 2010, 02:10:37 PM
CM:  in real life i agree with tha whole image thing at tha time, that`s what i showed yall.  Tha harder beats was what was missing from that album, but i guess they were saying that on tha Intro about ``the positive image`` thing.
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Post by: Black Excellence on December 23, 2010, 02:13:18 PM
CM:  in real life i agree with tha whole image thing at tha time, that`s what i showed yall.  Tha harder beats was what was missing from that album, but i guess they were saying that on tha Intro about ``the positive image`` thing.
pooh had some hard beats on that album
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 23, 2010, 02:16:58 PM
They lacked kick and authority
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 23, 2010, 02:22:02 PM
In real life Snoop couldve went with tha album above and mutilated tha game in 58 minutes.
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Post by: Black Excellence on December 23, 2010, 02:22:54 PM
They lacked kick and authority
false.
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Post by: Paul on December 23, 2010, 04:31:14 PM
Loved the Doggfather. especially the title track produced by DAZ
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Post by: Smackdog on December 23, 2010, 04:44:25 PM
wickety wacky wack album.........no matter what you do with it
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 23, 2010, 05:11:44 PM
Loved the Doggfather. especially the title track produced by DAZ

i hated that song.  i still tend to skip that song to this day. 
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Post by: Black Excellence on December 23, 2010, 06:33:58 PM
Loved the Doggfather. especially the title track produced by DAZ
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Post by: Mat on December 24, 2010, 01:54:57 AM
The album was classic the way it was,it showed that Snoop could do it without Dre
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Post by: doggfather on December 24, 2010, 02:00:37 AM
the album's great as it is.

+1
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Post by: Dre-Day on December 24, 2010, 02:25:20 AM
The album was classic the way it was,it showed that Snoop could do it without Dre
it's not a classic
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Post by: J$crILLa on December 24, 2010, 03:36:55 AM
tha doggfather was dope as fuck and still is, no reason to change it.

yes, in 1996, it threw me off at first, cuz it was so diff from doggystyle, but thats cuz no dre involved.

but i LOVE that album
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Post by: Mat on December 24, 2010, 05:14:37 AM
The album was classic the way it was,it showed that Snoop could do it without Dre
it's not a classic
imo it is that album is better then the shit that's coming out today
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Post by: Black Excellence on December 24, 2010, 01:18:56 PM
The album was classic the way it was,it showed that Snoop could do it without Dre
it's not a classic
yes it is.
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Post by: Black Excellence on December 24, 2010, 01:59:45 PM
tha doggfather was dope as fuck and still is, no reason to change it.

yes, in 1996, it threw me off at first, cuz it was so diff from doggystyle, but thats cuz no dre involved.

but i LOVE that album
this.
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Post by: Fraxxx on December 24, 2010, 03:12:52 PM
They lacked kick and authority

First time I agree with Radiotube!!

But still

tha doggfather was dope as fuck and still is, no reason to change it.

yes, in 1996, it threw me off at first, cuz it was so diff from doggystyle, but thats cuz no dre involved.

but i LOVE that album
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Post by: Black Excellence on December 24, 2010, 03:17:42 PM
again. pooh laced tha doggfather wit very thorough production...... how dare y'all.
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Post by: Muhfukka on December 24, 2010, 06:08:28 PM
"If I was Suge......" just stop right there
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Post by: acgrundy on December 24, 2010, 06:49:23 PM
great album.  easily snoops 2nd best and miles ahead of his 3rd best.
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Post by: MistaNova on December 25, 2010, 02:40:21 AM
the album's great as it is.
This.
DJ Pooh, Daz and Sam Sneed brought out some of the best shit their production discography has to offer. Though one thing I would've changed is adding a track produced by DJ Quik as well as that joint with Shaq & Mista Grimm and getting the thing mixed by either Cold 187um or Dr. Dre. Having Snoop replace a few verses with lines D.O.C. & RBX might've left is something I'd consider too.
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Post by: Paul on December 25, 2010, 03:23:52 AM
great album.  easily snoops 2nd best and miles ahead of his 3rd best.

Can't agree with this at all. The last meal and topp dogg were just as good if not better.
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Post by: Mietek23 on December 25, 2010, 04:23:29 AM
great album.  easily snoops 2nd best and miles ahead of his 3rd best.

Can't agree with this at all. The last meal and topp dogg were just as good if not better.

They were close but not as good as Doggfather. Remember they had these wack ass No Limit tracks on there like "Down 4 My Niggaz" and all the other bullshit.
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Post by: procrastiNate on December 25, 2010, 05:39:43 AM
Yeah, Tha Doggfather is definitely Snoop's second best album imo. With No Limit Top Dogg being third and Tha Last Meal being fourth.
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Post by: Paul on December 25, 2010, 05:57:42 AM
great album.  easily snoops 2nd best and miles ahead of his 3rd best.

Can't agree with this at all. The last meal and topp dogg were just as good if not better.

They were close but not as good as Doggfather. Remember they had these wack ass No Limit tracks on there like "Down 4 My Niggaz" and all the other bullshit.


Shit slaps  8)
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 25, 2010, 07:38:47 AM
"Top Dogg" is Snoop's weakest album if u want tha truth.  "Da Game Is To Be Sold And Not To Be Told" is a way better album and "Tha Last Meal" was more "advanced" for a Snoop Dogg album in it's time (i remember that album like it came out yesterday), it was the baby of Real Snoop Dogg, Funk-Homage Snoop Dogg (u know he's always on that shit, especially in that time frame), Hard Hitter Snoop Dogg, and No Limit Snoop Dogg all rolled into 1 (blunt).  


I loved "Tha Doggfather" when I first heard it all of tha way thru like that but IMO I can't really say it was all that impressive and tha mark it's left in time goes unnoticed (like what goes on today that takes u back to that album, like what's the reference?, he never really ever talks about that album - never!).  You would've figured from all of tha tales from album and that time period (especially in tha days that it was released) it would be more of a "milestone" for Calvin than anything.  


Truth be told tho, in real life society, it was an okay album (a lot better with a little age on it) but it doesn't resonate with you like it should've (which I think was done on purpose).  Honestly, an album like I mentioned in tha 1st place would've made Snoop's catalog slightly more prestige.  Suge tried too hard to get that November release date when really he should've been more focused on tha content and tha quality rather than the hype (it would've worked out better, imo you could see that from a mile away)...sophmore jinx??
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Post by: Black Excellence on December 25, 2010, 09:24:28 AM
if you take off them no limit joints on top dogg and tha last meal and add some west coast heaters both were classics.
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Post by: Black Excellence on December 25, 2010, 09:26:16 AM
the album's great as it is.
This.
DJ Pooh, Daz and Sam Sneed brought out some of the best shit their production discography has to offer. Though one thing I would've changed is adding a track produced by DJ Quik as well as that joint with Shaq & Mista Grimm and getting the thing mixed by either Cold 187um or Dr. Dre. Having Snoop replace a few verses with lines D.O.C. & RBX might've left is something I'd consider too.
at that time quik shoulda been on there. someone needs to ask snoop about that.