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Title: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: Mista Rosa on December 27, 2010, 05:35:08 AM
I've always been wondering how close was Lil Half Dead with the other 213 members, Snoop, Nate & Warren.

I mean i read that he was part of the original 213 group but it seems like he disapeared when they started recording songs, the Chronic sessions, Indo Smoke etc... And we don't hear of him on the few early 213 tapes that leaked.

So what's up? Anyone can tell me more?

And if i'm correct he's the one mentionned in Nate's song friends, when Warren spit:

"That's my nigga Snoop D Woop and my nigga N-A-T-E
I can't forget about my nigga H to the Deezy"

HD, understand Half Dead.
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: Okka on December 27, 2010, 06:07:19 AM
He has known them since kids, like The Twinz too. They are friends but HD had some beef with Swoop G in '94 and that's when he got X'd from Tha Dogg Pound. "Who Got Some Gangsta Shit" is a Half Dead diss. HD is one of the original Dogg Pound members, but he has never been featured on their music that much. I think Half Dead once said somethin like that Snoop doesn't feature you on his albums just cause you are his friend. You need to have some hot shit to spit and if Snoop likes it, he will put you on.
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: Mr Wicked on December 27, 2010, 06:37:36 AM
I think lil half dead is the one who answers the questions on The $20 Sack Pyramid

he was also mentioned on Lil Ghetto Boy
"Wake up, jumped out my bed
I'm in a 2 man cell wit my homie Lil Half Dead"
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: Okka on December 27, 2010, 06:44:58 AM
I think lil half dead is the one who answers the questions on The $20 Sack Pyramid

Hell nah, that's Snoop Dogg and The D.O.C.
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: doggfather on December 27, 2010, 07:38:24 AM
I hope they will make some music together.
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: k1000 on December 27, 2010, 01:50:21 PM
I hope they will make some music together.

u can hear a track produced by Lil ˝ Dead on 213's unique album.
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: gio™fugahoo on December 27, 2010, 02:06:58 PM
I hope they will make some music together.
isn´t he a cousin of snoop and nate????
so i think he is around
and i remember that he want to do a full r´n´b album some time ago!!!
he is the singer on snoop and bad azz"wrong idea"
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: Fonkarround on December 27, 2010, 02:38:33 PM
I think lil half dead is the one who answers the questions on The $20 Sack Pyramid

Hell nah, that's Snoop Dogg and The D.O.C.
wikipedia:
Intro: Dr. Dre
Vocals: Snoop Dogg, Samara
Show host: Big Tittie Nickie
Contestant 1: The D.O.C.
Contestant 2: Samara
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: bouli77 on December 27, 2010, 02:59:19 PM
There are many websites on the web that claim that Nate and Half Dead are cousins with Snoop, Daz and RBX. This is not true. Nate Dogg is Butch Cassidy's cousin, period. Snoop is RBX's, Daz's, PFN's, Crystal's, Brandy's and Ray J's cousin.

As for Half Dead, he was one of Snoop's closest homie, then HD had his issues with the whole crew (hence the diss on Who Got Some Gangsta Shit) but came back in full effect in the late 90's as you can see him in movies such as Tha Eastsidaz. However, he's now only doing hooks and production work as far as I know. The last time I heard him rap was on Snoop's Welcome To Tha Chuuch Vol. 1 (2003) and let's face it, it was not that great. He's much better off doing soulful hooks like on "The Street" (by E-White) or Put Your Handz Up (Young Lyfe feat. Daz). To be truthful even though I consider his two solo albums as timeless classics it's mostly due to the incredible production effort by Total Track Productions. I mean he was kind of entertaining on certain songs (Had 2 Be A Hustler, Hood Lyfe, Still On A Mission, etc.) but he never was a very good rapper, he was barely average to me. He was struggling to write three verses for a song and all in all most of his shit sounded alike. That's what makes these records peculiar in a good way though, but no wonder he could not come up with renewed material after two albums. He kind of reminds me of The Twinz, they were relevant in the 90's but they failed to maintain their creativity afloat. Except that the Twinz were really good mc's.

It's funny that you mention this line mista rosa 'cause i've always wondered about that too. I think he was featured on Long Beach Is A Motha too, and the original version of Still On A Mission features Snoop (you can clearly picture Snoop saying lines like "before I was a OG i was a BG"). Plus his deceased brother X-Con did a song with Nate Dogg back in the day called "Dayz of Bedrock", if anybody got that track by the way, please let me know, i used to own it but lost it like 5 years ago and I've been looking for it ever since.

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HD is one of the original Dogg Pound members, but he has never been featured on their music that much. I think Half Dead once said somethin like that Snoop doesn't feature you on his albums just cause you are his friend. You need to have some hot shit to spit and if Snoop likes it, he will put you on.

Very true. I think he got that from Dre. Cause we know for a fact that Half Dead was clownin' with the whole Death Row family in the beginning as he was featured on The Chronic tour and you can hear him speak on the Let Me Ride Extended remix but yet no proper rap song was released featuring Half Dead and Snoop. Matter of fact the only major rappers Half Dead ever got down with as far as rap is concerned were Tha Chill who is basically his childhood homeboy and AMG.
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: Okka on December 27, 2010, 03:56:11 PM
To be truthful even though I consider his two solo albums as timeless classics it's mostly due to the incredible production effort by Total Track Productions. I mean he was kind of entertaining on certain songs (Had 2 Be A Hustler, Hood Lyfe, Still On A Mission, etc.) but he never was a very good rapper, he was barely average to me. He was struggling to write three verses for a song and all in all most of his shit sounded alike. That's what makes these records peculiar in a good way though, but no wonder he could not come up with renewed material after two albums.

That's exactly how i feel about Lil' Half Dead. +1

I think lil half dead is the one who answers the questions on The $20 Sack Pyramid

Hell nah, that's Snoop Dogg and The D.O.C.
wikipedia:
Intro: Dr. Dre
Vocals: Snoop Dogg, Samara
Show host: Big Tittie Nickie
Contestant 1: The D.O.C.
Contestant 2: Samara

You can clearly hear that it's Snoop Dogg. Fuck what Wikipedia says.
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: Muhfukka on December 27, 2010, 05:22:19 PM
how can the real support tha fake
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: doggfather on December 28, 2010, 12:50:36 AM
I hope they will make some music together.

u can hear a track produced by Lil ˝ Dead on 213's unique album.


I know that track, and the wrong idea too.
I meant in the future!  ;)
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: MistaNova on December 28, 2010, 02:08:18 AM
Plus his deceased brother X-Con did a song with Nate Dogg back in the day called "Dayz of Bedrock", if anybody got that track by the way, please let me know, i used to own it but lost it like 5 years ago and I've been looking for it ever since.

X-Con was Lil 1/2 Dead's brother? If he had a track with Nate was he closer to the DPG than Half Dead?
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: 2euce 7even on December 28, 2010, 02:34:11 AM
I think lil half dead is the one who answers the questions on The $20 Sack Pyramid

he was also mentioned on Lil Ghetto Boy
"Wake up, jumped out my bed
I'm in a 2 man cell wit my homie Lil Half Dead"

also on "fuck you"

So I gave her some Hennesey, she gave me some head
I fucked her on the flo', so I wouldn't mess up my bed
Then Lil' 1/2 Dead put his dick on her head
Take that bitch home, and give her a bone
And give her the number to my cellular phone


its strange that some like lil half dead who was down from the start dont collaborate with them..
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: gio™fugahoo on December 28, 2010, 02:48:24 AM
I hope they will make some music together.

u can hear a track produced by Lil ˝ Dead on 213's unique album.


I know that track, and the wrong idea too.
I meant in the future!  ;)

didn´t daz posted a porn from him not to long ago
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on December 28, 2010, 02:51:56 AM
I hope they will make some music together.

u can hear a track produced by Lil ˝ Dead on 213's unique album.


I know that track, and the wrong idea too.
I meant in the future!  ;)

didn´t daz posted a porn from him not to long ago

yea, wit the Brady bitch.. lol
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: Okka on December 28, 2010, 03:06:38 AM
Plus his deceased brother X-Con did a song with Nate Dogg back in the day called "Dayz of Bedrock", if anybody got that track by the way, please let me know, i used to own it but lost it like 5 years ago and I've been looking for it ever since.

X-Con was Lil 1/2 Dead's brother? If he had a track with Nate was he closer to the DPG than Half Dead?

Damn that's a stupid ass question.
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: Mista Rosa on December 28, 2010, 03:13:14 AM
Plus his deceased brother X-Con did a song with Nate Dogg back in the day called "Dayz of Bedrock", if anybody got that track by the way, please let me know, i used to own it but lost it like 5 years ago and I've been looking for it ever since.

X-Con was Lil 1/2 Dead's brother? If he had a track with Nate was he closer to the DPG than Half Dead?

I don't know who is X-Con but the song you are talking about is by Mr.X. It's Mr. X feat Nate Dogg - Dayz of bedrock. I have it, i'll upload if you need it.
Lil Half Dead's deceased brother was Big Half Dead, he's mentioned in the booklets. He past away before the begining of Lil Half Dead rap's career.
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on December 28, 2010, 03:17:53 AM
Plus his deceased brother X-Con did a song with Nate Dogg back in the day called "Dayz of Bedrock", if anybody got that track by the way, please let me know, i used to own it but lost it like 5 years ago and I've been looking for it ever since.

X-Con was Lil 1/2 Dead's brother? If he had a track with Nate was he closer to the DPG than Half Dead?

I don't know who is X-Con but the song you are talking about is by Mr.X. It's Mr. X feat Nate Dogg - Dayz of bedrock. I have it, i'll upload if you need it.
Lil Half Dead's deceased brother was Big Half Dead, he's mentioned in the booklets. He past away before the begining of Lil Half Dead rap's career.

thats a cool track.  8)
was it ever confirmed that it was a QDIII-production?
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: bouli77 on December 29, 2010, 06:49:11 AM
That would be very nice mista rosa. But I don't think it's Mr. X on the song though even if most of the mp3's tagged it that way. His voice doesn't sound like Mr. X's. Plus Mr X is from South Central and at the end he is shouting out LBC cats mostly. I could be wrong though.

Quote from: tupacologist
its strange that some like lil half dead who was down from the start dont collaborate with them..

He's not the only one in this situation though. The Twinz can be seen (with Half Dead) in Fuck Wit Dre Day's video. Yet they never released anything with Dre and made only a couple of collaborations with Snoop over 18+ years (who remembers the bonus track from the Doggystyle All Stars compilation ? lol). They can also be seen in Lil Ghetto Boy's video too by the way. Same goes with Foesum, who are in Nothing But a G-Thang's video...
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: Mista Rosa on December 29, 2010, 07:16:50 AM
Dayz of bedrock:

http://www.mediafire.com/?f18ptjxqf4g4j1w

You're right, i listened to the song, then dear god from Mr. X album, and it's clear that it's not Mr. X on Dayz of Bedrock. My bad!

At the very end of the song you hear Nate singing "Half Dead rest in peace"..

So who is that guy X-Con? Is it him on the song?

Edit: 3:16 "To my brother Half Dead Rest In Peace"

Edit 2 : Solved! Just check the booklet of "Dead has arisen" Lil HD thanks his big brother X-Con, so i guess it's safe to say it's him on Dayz of Bedrock..
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: bouli77 on December 29, 2010, 07:34:43 AM
Wow. Thanks a lot. You made my month. By the way, the song is so not from 1999, lol. More like 1991 or 1992.

X-Con is a really common name for a rapper, someone called X-Con from CPT i think put out a compilation in like 90. And another X-Con was featured on Half Dead's Deadicated on his 1994 album.
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: Mista Rosa on December 29, 2010, 07:45:53 AM
You're welcome. Check my previous message i've edited it.

Yeah mos def it's not from 1999 but that's how it was "tagged" when somebody shared it with me some years ago..

I'm curious of when it was recorded.

It's definitely the X-Con featuring on lil HD album, who seems to be both HD and lil HD brother.
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: bouli77 on December 29, 2010, 07:55:06 AM
Thanks for the info. I'd say it's from 92-93. X-Con talks about the riots in the first verse. And nate dogg's high pitch vocals sound like his early music, like Deeez Nuuuts.
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on December 29, 2010, 08:12:12 AM
both Half Dead and Twinz, collaborated wit Snoop plenty of times since the early 90's.. theres tracks scattered everywhere
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: bouli77 on December 29, 2010, 08:20:15 AM
Not on major releases... The Twinz are only featured on the first Eastidaz album, on the track Dogghouse, and they spit straight fire btw. They're featured here and there on mixtapes (cf. We Da West, there's a video for the song). Half Dead, when not featured on mixtapes, is only doing hooks, like on Wrong Idea. They're not what you call "professional recording artists" anymore so it makes sense you don't hear them on real projects.
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: kuruptlon on December 29, 2010, 08:26:27 AM
Yo thanks a lot for the track. This shit is smooth. George Bush mention means this track has got to be pre 93.
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on December 29, 2010, 08:27:52 AM
id say whether retail or not, is beside the point tough..
they have recorded plenty of times wit Snoop. 20-25 tracks.
plus, almost all of the "Welcoem 2 the chuuch"-volumes were released in retail-format in Europe.
yeah, Half Dead is just fuckin around wit his shit, he raps sometimes but mostly silly hooks.
 but Twinz are still rappin. Snoop even produced a full EP for them..
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: kuruptlon on December 29, 2010, 08:34:49 AM
Man I haven't listened to lil half dead in a while. I picked up 2 of his albums back in the day and they had some decent cuts on them. Some real classic west coast beats.

had 2 be a hustla
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R37D-2-xoqg

eastside westside
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbSYnoajqVE&feature=related

Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: makavelisimon on December 29, 2010, 09:52:10 PM
The substitute soundtrack had imo prioritys best lil half dead song of all time...

Hood Lyfe,   

has an outro one can loop and flow over, str8 classic and could have made SOAM be a real banging LP and reach out to the mainstream.

Took me a while to find a flac of it... but here it is, flac sounds perfect retail cdq....

http://www.zshare.net/download/84531721472c1dbb/


Half dead could have killed it if every beat was this fire.
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: Muhfukka on December 29, 2010, 10:46:36 PM
i still listen to eastside westide all the time
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: Mista Rosa on December 30, 2010, 02:23:43 PM
Yo thanks a lot for the track. This shit is smooth. George Bush mention means this track has got to be pre 93.

Pre means after, post means before. So you say this song was recorded after 93 ??
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: BakinSodaFree on December 30, 2010, 02:32:32 PM
Yo thanks a lot for the track. This shit is smooth. George Bush mention means this track has got to be pre 93.

Pre means after, post means before. So you say this song was recorded after 93 ??

Other way around...  ;D
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: Mista Rosa on December 30, 2010, 04:22:34 PM
Yo thanks a lot for the track. This shit is smooth. George Bush mention means this track has got to be pre 93.

Pre means after, post means before. So you say this song was recorded after 93 ??

Other way around...  ;D

Haha yeah my bad!
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: ThugJay on January 01, 2011, 02:22:01 AM
DPG - Fine Bitch (feat. Snoop Dogg & Lil 1/2 Dead) (DPG - Tha Unreleased Collection)
http://www.multiupload.com/NXTM99KY0H

Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on January 01, 2011, 02:28:18 AM
^^
that track is pretty cool  8) but Half Dead isnt on it tho..
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: Muhfukka on January 01, 2011, 02:29:31 PM
Yo thanks a lot for the track. This shit is smooth. George Bush mention means this track has got to be pre 93.

Pre means after, post means before. So you say this song was recorded after 93 ??
FUCKIN EUROPE
Title: Re: Lil Half Dead & 213
Post by: ThugJay on January 02, 2011, 03:53:54 AM
Snoop Dogg - Ballin (feat. The Dramatics & Lil' Half Dead) (http://www.multiupload.com/FGH3JIRNZ1)

I cant hear lil half dead here, but on  the back cover of Snoop's album Paid The Cost To Be Da Bo$$ u can see his name on the track
(http://i14.fastpic.ru/big/2011/0102/fc/1a3b40f4548888af0a6a7b7e7891eefc.jpg)