West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: dpgc2002 on December 29, 2002, 10:37:43 AM
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I think Ras is probably the dopest lyricist ever to come out of the West...My question to the white people on this board is do you find some of Ras lyrics offensive...I mean he has said some questionable things about whites in his raps...But so did Cube back in the day about Jews...Does this prevent you from liking his music?...
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Nature of the threat is the track that caused the most stir.. i'm not bothered.. and it doesnt stop me bumping ras.
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Ras offensive?????? naw, hes the dopest westcoast lyricist IMO, Soul on Ice is CLASSIC!!!!!
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im not up with all the racist shit he says, so it's kinda rare i bump a ras kass track at all, unless he's guesting on somethin
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im not sayin yall in particular...but any ras kass fan, lauryn hill fan...etc...that has a problem with benzinos racist views should have the same problem with their views...theyre equally as ignorant...whether or not ras is a 100x better lyricist isnt the case...he still has racist views towards whites....
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I lose my respect 4 cube when he diss the jews
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ras is a tyte rapper, but half the shit he said in nature of the threat isn't true. ya'll jus believe him cuz u think he's read up on it, and u can't be bothered too
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true. unfortunatly. all that stuff ras said is actually what the five percenters believe.... so its not just made up.... they believe that BS.
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Bullshit? I think just because one who doesn't and can't understand an afrocentric perspective on issues relative to race, religion, politics, or economics, should slang someone who does.
Ras Kass has never claimed to be a Five Percenter and "Nature of a Threat" and "Interview With A Vampire" contains ideologies that many scholars stand by.
Again, I think...no, I know Caucasians will never understand the struggle or mindset of Africans, no matter how many Hip-Hop albums you buy or how many Ecko Shirts you wear.
If you don't know anything about Afrocentric/Pan Africanist thought, I think you need to keep that feeble minded Eurocentric bullshit to yourself.
white world supremacist (racism) beliefs in full effect.
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the world doesnt need racism, keep that shit to yourself
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Hes maybe a dope lyricist with an opinion but MY opinion is that racism brings more racism and a racist black men makes people like me be victim of racist... It dosent prevent me from liking his music but I dont really listen to his music
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a racist black men makes people like me be victim of racist
That gets my vote for the most ignorant, but funny comment of 2002.
A racist black man makes other people a victim of racism, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.......let me breath.......hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ::)
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Ras Kass has never claimed to be a Five Percenter and "Nature of a Threat" and "Interview With A Vampire" contains ideologies that many scholars stand by..
word....i dont think Ras has ever claimed to be 5% , or at least heard of it...
and wasnt nature of the threat influenced by the Isis Papers?
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Most ignorant comment??.. Ur not black uh.. A Lot of people think im racist juss cuz im black, im talkin bout cyber wiggaz like u, ur laughin at my opinion cuz u know its true but ur too dumb(young?) to know it, u bitch ass sucka, if u cant respect an opinion, jusss keep that dick out of ur mouth, then u wont say
let me breath..
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Most ignorant comment??.. Ur not black uh.. A Lot of people think im racist juss cuz im black, im talkin bout cyber wiggaz like u, ur laughin at my opinion cuz u know its true but ur too dumb(young?) to know it, u bitch ass sucka, if u cant respect an opinion, jusss keep that dick out of ur mouth, then u wont say
let me breath..
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careful, he'll get your internet account cancelled
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Ras Kass, MC Ren & Noreaga - They have all shown ignorance towards white people, but I dont really care as long as it doesn't get TOO offensive..
MC Ren crossed the line though..
I have the feeling that SGV has been more against Scarface, after Scarface used the word "wetbacks", is this true SGV??
And what lays in this word btw??, I dont hear it much used..
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careful, he'll get your internet account cancelled
Nerd? Geek? Sensitive?
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Racism is not... I REPEAT, IS NOT, hating another race. Blacks hating whites is not racism. It's prejudgism. Racism is a system, or a belief that one race is better than the others. Example, I'm Mexican, I say I hate white people, they killed my people, and they stole California from Mexico, that's prejudgism. I say that white people are dirtier than Mexicans, and that they have no rights governing Mexican's because we need to have our on power, that racism. Learn what you are talking about before making comments. Oh, and Ras Kass was right about somethings, the U.S. started biowarfare with the Natives, and Thanksgiving. Being Native, I can at leat say that much.
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Example, I'm Mexican, I say I hate white people, they killed my people, and they stole California from Mexico, that's prejudgism. I say that white people are dirtier than Mexicans, and that they have no rights governing Mexican's because we need to have our on power, that racism. Learn what you are talking about before making comments.
BULLSHIT!
SOME white people may have killed your people, SOME white people might have stolen Cali from Mexico, SOME white people might be dirtier than u! Learn what you are talking about before making comments...
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Ras Kass has never claimed to be a Five Percenter and "Nature of a Threat" and "Interview With A Vampire" contains ideologies that many scholars stand by..
word....i dont think Ras has ever claimed to be 5% , or at least heard of it...
and wasnt nature of the threat influenced by the Isis Papers?
Exactly, even though he has made several references to the teaching of The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, he wouldn't claim to be a member of The Nation Of Islam or The 5% Nation Of Gods and Earths.
Besides I can bet that 99.9% of these fools making these blanketed statements have never even read Dr. Frances Cress Welsings "The Isis Papers" or her other works. Plus she is writing a follow-up to the Isis Papers which is going to get even deeper into the pysche of White World Supremacy and it's affects and effects on Caucasians and people of color.
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Example, I'm Mexican, I say I hate white people, they killed my people, and they stole California from Mexico, that's prejudgism. I say that white people are dirtier than Mexicans, and that they have no rights governing Mexican's because we need to have our on power, that racism. Learn what you are talking about before making comments.
BULLSHIT!
SOME white people may have killed your people, SOME white people might have stolen Cali from Mexico, SOME white people might be dirtier than u! Learn what you are talking about before making comments...
This coming from a Caucasian who is so much influenced through Hip-Hop (Black culture) that he was clowned for trying to represent a notable Black street organization, but he claims he was just "joking."
So his words hold no merit and what would he know about the amerikkkan history and the pillaging his ancestors did to the Chicano history and culture?
What's crackin' Sven Crizzip (that name was very humorous on Tha Row board)
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Most ignorant comment??.. Ur not black uh.. A Lot of people think im racist juss cuz im black, im talkin bout cyber wiggaz like u, ur laughin at my opinion cuz u know its true but ur too dumb(young?) to know it, u bitch ass sucka, if u cant respect an opinion, jusss keep that dick out of ur mouth, then u wont say
let me breath..
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I would like to respond BB Mak, but I don't understand what the fuck you just said. I know that a GED is not the same as a high school diploma, but son..... I find it strange that you can spell the words "dick" and "bitch" but you can't spell simple second grade words like "just" or "doesn't". Now when you can at least form a complete sentence with a subject and predicate, get at me and maybe I'll take your janky comebacks with a bit of humor, but in the meantime you sound like you are a bit autistic, so maybe your replies are the effects of that.
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LOL Damon... Welcome to the great world named Internet, here u can type juss and dosent however the fuck u want.. now leave me alone, this cyber beef with u is useless, so is ur reply , wigga ass motha fucka, why u tryna act smart when ur not, fuck ur fuckin annoying man , anywayz fuck dis shit, im too busy to fuck with an under age bitch like u
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BULLSHIT!
SOME white people may have killed your people, SOME white people might have stolen Cali from Mexico, SOME white people might be dirtier than u! Learn what you are talking about before making comments...
What's bullshit. Alright, I'm saying, if I'm ignorite, I would say, I hate white people because they told half of Mexico. I'm not racist, I'm prejudge because I would not give white's the time of day, and I would avoid. Now, if I was racist, I would feel that I should be over whites, that I superior. I'm of a clear race that should governer ourselves with no whites because they are not good enough. That's racism. And for the record, I'm neither, just giving example. I know my shit, I'm a college educated muthaphukka, I'm a senior AT A ALL WHITE COLLEGE, and I'm from Southern California, a place with great racial diversity. I think I now a thing about racism. Peace
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preach on about how you think racism is ok or whatever, but the world is goin nowhere fast if people can't realise this shit is over & just deal with it
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BULLSHIT!
SOME white people may have killed your people, SOME white people might have stolen Cali from Mexico, SOME white people might be dirtier than u! Learn what you are talking about before making comments...
What's bullshit. Alright, I'm saying, if I'm ignorite, I would say, I hate white people because they told half of Mexico. I'm not racist, I'm prejudge because I would not give white's the time of day, and I would avoid. Now, if I was racist, I would feel that I should be over whites, that I superior. I'm of a clear race that should governer ourselves with no whites because they are not good enough. That's racism. And for the record, I'm neither, just giving example. I know my shit, I'm a college educated muthaphukka, I'm a senior AT A ALL WHITE COLLEGE, and I'm from Southern California, a place with great racial diversity. I think I now a thing about racism. Peace
Cool... I respect your opinion. No problem, but u say u r from a "AT A ALL WHITE COLLEGE", right? So don't u have also white friends? Do u hate them now?
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Racism is not dead until racial profiling is ended, until I can be treated fairly in job aplication without worry if hiring a Hispanic looks good for multi-cultural relation, wheni make friends that are white and they look to me for multi-cultural issues, and people stop labeling people. And do I have white friends? Man, my best friend in life was white, and I've aways had white friends. Whites are not the problem, I said, racism is, and I didn't say racism is right, I said you need to get you defination right. I was being hypothical, like if I was ignorite, I would think like this being racist, and be prejudgist. But take it as you will, I know where I'm coming from, let me ask you, you got any black friends? And if so, did they grow up in a mainly black neighborhood, or a mainly white neighborhood, 'cause you about me, broke minorities Latin and Black, now about you.
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Racism is not... I REPEAT, IS NOT, hating another race. Blacks hating whites is not racism. It's prejudgism. Racism is a system, or a belief that one race is better than the others. Example, I'm Mexican, I say I hate white people, they killed my people, and they stole California from Mexico, that's prejudgism. I say that white people are dirtier than Mexicans, and that they have no rights governing Mexican's because we need to have our on power, that racism. Learn what you are talking about before making comments. Oh, and Ras Kass was right about somethings, the U.S. started biowarfare with the Natives, and Thanksgiving. Being Native, I can at leat say that much.
This is what I don't want to understand, I can't understand. U stated u hate whites because some of them acted cruel towards other ppl, right? To me, no matter if u call it racism, prejudgism or whatever, IT IS WRONG and very ignorant. Like u said ur best friend is white, do u hate him cause some other whites hurted u? C'mon man...
Now your question, yes I have/had fruiends that are white. But they live in a white neighbourhood, so it's hard to compare. In Germany, there are mainly no neighbourhoods with only people having one skin color. It's all mixed up. Those friends of mine who are black do not care a lot about the past, what was done to blacks by white ppl. One on hand I think it's good they don't, because it could cause problems and theres some point where ppl should just stop hating. On they other hand there are still whites who call them "nigger" or "neger" or whatever, even if they are best friends, even if it's not meant because they hate, it's because it's normal for some ppl to call em like this and that is wrong! They don't even care about that and dont complain.
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Ras Kass, MC Ren & Noreaga - They have all shown ignorance towards white people, but I dont really care as long as it doesn't get TOO offensive..
MC Ren crossed the line though..
I have the feeling that SGV has been more against Scarface, after Scarface used the word "wetbacks", is this true SGV??
And what lays in this word btw??, I dont hear it much used..
i usually dont get upset at that word...but when scarface used it on that wack ass album it made me mad...cuz imagine if mr shadow said "in the cell with all the niggers" he would be lynched...but scarface says it and it goes unnoticed..fuck that...wet back is a term for latinos when theyre illegal...
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Ras Kass, MC Ren & Noreaga - They have all shown ignorance towards white people, but I dont really care as long as it doesn't get TOO offensive..
MC Ren crossed the line though..
I have the feeling that SGV has been more against Scarface, after Scarface used the word "wetbacks", is this true SGV??
And what lays in this word btw??, I dont hear it much used..
i usually dont get upset at that word...but when scarface used it on that wack ass album it made me mad...cuz imagine if mr shadow said "in the cell with all the niggers" he would be lynched...but scarface says it and it goes unnoticed..fuck that...wet back is a term for latinos when theyre illegal...
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Ras Kass, MC Ren & Noreaga - They have all shown ignorance towards white people, but I dont really care as long as it doesn't get TOO offensive..
MC Ren crossed the line though..
I have the feeling that SGV has been more against Scarface, after Scarface used the word "wetbacks", is this true SGV??
And what lays in this word btw??, I dont hear it much used..
i usually dont get upset at that word...but when scarface used it on that wack ass album it made me mad...cuz imagine if mr shadow said "in the cell with all the niggers" he would be lynched...but scarface says it and it goes unnoticed..fuck that...wet back is a term for latinos when theyre illegal...
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LoL, I got the picture the first time..
Foo!! ;D
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This is what I don't want to understand, I can't understand. U stated u hate whites because some of them acted cruel towards other ppl, right? To me, no matter if u call it racism, prejudgism or whatever, IT IS WRONG and very ignorant. Like u said ur best friend is white, do u hate him cause some other whites hurted u? C'mon man...
Now your question, yes I have/had fruiends that are white. But they live in a white neighbourhood, so it's hard to compare. In Germany, there are mainly no neighbourhoods with only people having one skin color. It's all mixed up. Those friends of mine who are black do not care a lot about the past, what was done to blacks by white ppl. One on hand I think it's good they don't, because it could cause problems and theres some point where ppl should just stop hating. On they other hand there are still whites who call them "nigger" or "neger" or whatever, even if they are best friends, even if it's not meant because they hate, it's because it's normal for some ppl to call em like this and that is wrong! They don't even care about that and dont complain.
I never said I hated white people. If I was ignorite, I would think like the way you quoted me. You take what I said, take out what you want to hear and make that against me, when that's not what I mean. What I said is, if I was ignorite. As for people forgetting the past. The past has not past. Racial profiling still goes on, singling out our young Latin children to label them at-risk, a title that stays so when they apply to college, the college gets to see, and lower oppertuniny for our minorities in jobs. Like you said, your black friends do this, shit, they are their own people and can do what they want. By judging their behavior to other black people, it is unfar to all black people involved, because no black person should have to live up to, or down to, standards of another black person. In the U.S., when a white person goes crazy, it's just another person, but when a Middle Eastern does something, all Middle Easterns are a threat, or a black person rapes, all black men are rapist, or when a Latino ripes you off, all Latinos are crooks. When a white child shots up his school, he has problems, and the parents are to blame. A shot out happens in a black high school, black people have the problem. You see the difference. Minorities are label and grouped. We can't forget the past, because we are living in a era of HIDDEN RACISM. And those minorities that can overcome, great, God Bless the child that can hold his own (we are all God's Children, even adults) but for those that can't, their is reasons, and we have it tuffer than anyone. No doubt. Peace.