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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: love33 on January 08, 2011, 11:03:35 PM
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Howcome Dr. Dre's "Kush" is not doing very good on the charts? "Kush" currently sits at #58 on the charts now this would be good for your average artist but for Dr. Dre this thing should be at least in the top 30 at worst. "Ashton Martin Music" (Rick Ross/Drake) and "Deuces" (Chris Brown/Kanye/Drake) are sitting above "Kush." I was out in Hollywood and they play the track at the club and everyone gets down but back in Florida nobody is really even listening to the track and it gets an occasional first verse spin in Miami. E-40 & Too Short get more spins with "Biiiatch" than "Kush" gets in Florida. So what's going on here is the track going to catch fire eventually and it just takes longer or is Dre going to try another single (or worse yet the album gets pushed back AGAIN). In the day and age of bootlegging, the West Coast alone is not enough to push the album up the charts. Now rap as a whole is struggling but for all the promotion (the HP Commercials, Mafia Wars Dr. Dre promotion, the track with Jay-Z, etc.) Maybe Interscope is losing its ability to push artists also as they couldn't push Busta Rhymez but this is a shocker to see "Kush" sitting stagnant and struggling for airplay in the South.
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DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH DETOX ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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He needs another single before the album drops, it'll cross promote and give hope that this album is actually coming out soon. No one cares about a single for an album without a release date.
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shits on the way guys just lean back and watch...
kush dont need the push you want it to have on the charts... its just a fun track as dre said...
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i guess a lot people overe here are younger...dont blame them,they dont know.
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If Interscope really wants a track to be in the top ten, it'll happen. This all just makes the fact that it "wasn't supposed to leak" more believable. You would think Interscope would gear up and put their 100% effort into their most hyped album of all time. . . which leads me to believe Kush was either never meant to come out and it was a forced rush job, or they have completely different plans.
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"Kush" is just a warm up single and is doing pretty damn well, I hear it on the radio at least a few times a week and I don't even listen to the radio like that... and not to mention people I know are actually talking about the song and not cuz of me bumping it around them, so that proves it's doing what it's supposed to in terms of creating a buzz obviously
also, what "weed" track has even gotten a pass on radio/TV like this in recent years? the content is another factor
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"Kush" is just a warm up single and is doing pretty damn well, I hear it on the radio at least a few times a week and I don't even listen to the radio like that... and not to mention people I know are actually talking about the song and not cuz of me bumping it around them, so that proves it's doing what it's supposed to in terms of creating a buzz obviously
also, what "weed" track has even gotten a pass on radio/TV like this in recent years? the content is another factor
Hes right....Usually drug related songs dont get much of a push on radio, the only reason its so heavy in rotation is cause of the hype around Detox. Not to mention its a good track. Look the song peaked I think in the mid 30s on the billboard charts.....For a street single that came out of nowhere, that is good. The song is serving its purpose, Dre took the negative buzz on his album and switched it up. Now everyone that was thinking the album wont come knows its actually gonna drop....So the hype is now positive....Very soon your going to get the single that Dre actually wants you to hear....Thats when your really gonna hyped up for the album and thats when it will get a release date.
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It's not that good
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Kush gets a lot of play on Hot97.
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Dr.Dre Kush is No.1 in German Hip Hop Charts about 3 Weeks!!
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I'm ready for the next single
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another topic about this?
seriously, let it go.
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I'm ready for the next single
I wonder who will be featured on it, i have a feeling that it ain't gonna be a solo song.
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I'm ready for the next single
I wonder who will be featured on it, i have a feeling that it ain't gonna be a solo song.
my guess is Eminem, hopefully not I Need A Doctor though
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I don't see how this could be a positive sign at all. Interscope wanted Busta Rhymes to sell and he didn't. Dre's biggest hurdle is that he's been out of the game for over a decade and the true fans who have been waiting 10 years for a song want something bigger than Kush. So hopefully it is just a "warm up" but this track peaking in the 30's and sitting in the 50's on the top singles chart can't be what anyone expected for as long as we have waited.
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I don't see how this could be a positive sign at all. Interscope wanted Busta Rhymes to sell and he didn't. Dre's biggest hurdle is that he's been out of the game for over a decade and the true fans who have been waiting 10 years for a song want something bigger than Kush. So hopefully it is just a "warm up" but this track peaking in the 30's and sitting in the 50's on the top singles chart can't be what anyone expected for as long as we have waited.
It's not because YOU (and me, too) waited years for Detox that everyone in America waited for it 10 years. It's just a track to put Dr Dre's name in the charts, so people will at least know that he exist. It's 2011, not 2001.
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I don't see how this could be a positive sign at all. Interscope wanted Busta Rhymes to sell and he didn't. Dre's biggest hurdle is that he's been out of the game for over a decade and the true fans who have been waiting 10 years for a song want something bigger than Kush. So hopefully it is just a "warm up" but this track peaking in the 30's and sitting in the 50's on the top singles chart can't be what anyone expected for as long as we have waited.
It's not because YOU (and me, too) waited years for Detox that everyone in America waited for it 10 years. It's just a track to put Dr Dre's name in the charts, so people will at least know that he exist. It's 2011, not 2001.
thats how i feel too but at the same time I see this as a 4min Beats Headphones commercial (the video)... as for the the song i think they were just testing it.. Official or not this song did flop... its clear that Dres name aint what he used to be. ... like Jay Z , this guy could release an acapella song and he could be a hit..
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is it really a surprise that the track is not blowing up? not much to do with the push imo, shit's got a huge video and everything. the track just isn't that good. the whole vibe of it is corny and predictable - whip cracking snare sounds, epic pianos and spiralling synths or not. this was definitely a song that the 'office' people were for, as slim the mobster was saying. that reflects badly on dre, or andre 3000 and 1 1 1! give me a break! dre has to put out a real single next, something real banging. i need a doctor was even worse. dre just about gets a pass for now, but is skating on very thin ice :laugh:
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for real...KUSH was a bad idea.. only Snoop is pushing it and we all know why
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there's a track that should be on detox which is supposed to be the super epic monster banging beat we've all been waiting for - one of the best things dre has ever cooked up. it was discussed by some 'insiders' a while back and i think it's likely to be the one that ended up featuring xzibit/nas. they probably gonna save it for a later single, just hope there is some other stuff that's really worth the wait.
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DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH DETOX ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, I do. Read my signature...but add the word "headphones" to it.
It's not that good
Worst single of Dre's solo career.
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i THINK DRE IS GOING TO DO GOOD REGARDLESS WHAT THE CHARTS SAY FUCK THE CHARTS! OTHER SONGS GOT MORE PLAY LIKE DRAKE AND THEM CAUSE THEY POP NOT HIPHOP AND EVERYBODY LIKES TO SLEEP ON THE WESTCOAST NO SUPPORT NO LOVE ONLY FOR SOUTH MUSIC AND SHIT LIKE PIT BULL YOU KNOW THE REGULAR POP TRACKS THEY PLAY ON THE RADIO! SHIT EVEN FOR CHICANO RAPPERS THERE IS NO SUPPORT! YOU GO TO A FUCKEN LATIN LABEL AND SHOW THEM SOME WEST COAST SHIT THEY SAY YOUR TOO WESTCOST! THEY WANT YOU TO SELL OUT AND MAKE POP MUSIC OR RAGATON PUT ON A SUIT AND DANCE LIKE DIDDY! SO YOU JUST GOT TO STICK TO YOUR GUNS AND ROLL WITH THE PUNCHES! KUSH IS DOPE AND ILL SMOKE TO THAT! 8)
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is it really a surprise that the track is not blowing up? not much to do with the push imo, shit's got a huge video and everything. the track just isn't that good. the whole vibe of it is corny and predictable - whip cracking snare sounds, epic pianos and spiralling synths or not. this was definitely a song that the 'office' people were for, as slim the mobster was saying. that reflects badly on dre, or andre 3000 and 1 1 1! give me a break! dre has to put out a real single next, something real banging. i need a doctor was even worse. dre just about gets a pass for now, but is skating on very thin ice :laugh:
corny & predictable: i could say the same about eminem's single with rihanna but it's a hit.
i'm not sure if it's a good thing that Kush didn't do the numbers(so far) that interscope hoped.
perhaps it's a good idea to put eminem on the next single & dre producing the song himself.
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Lets be honest here, 10 years ago Dre dropped a weed song "The Next Episode" and it blew up. There is all kinds of promotion for this thing: videos, mafia wars promotion, HP Computers commercials, Dr. Pepper soda commercial. You can't just tell me they threw down all this money in computers, soda, internet games, and a music video that gets Dre and Snoop, the Jordan and Pippen of rap together, and it charts in the 50's after we waited 10 years. This single should be poppin coast to coast top 10 and bangin out in every stereo like when Pac dropped "All Eyez On Me." We haven't seen anything. I hope Dre can come through but this is not looking good. People are talkin about Interscope but if he can't touch that new fanbase (under 25) that wasn't there when the last album dropped it will be a lifeless effort. At some point, Interscope is going to say we need to step back and cut our losses. They aren't just going to pour all this money into all this stuff and not get any return. Think about the Bishop Lamont Dre singles that didn't work out. I hope Dre can come up huge with the next single, we need something like "Nuthin But A G' Thang."
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Lets be honest here, 10 years ago Dre dropped a weed song "The Next Episode" and it blew up. There is all kinds of promotion for this thing: videos, mafia wars promotion, HP Computers commercials, Dr. Pepper soda commercial. You can't just tell me they threw down all this money in computers, soda, internet games, and a music video that gets Dre and Snoop, the Jordan and Pippen of rap together, and it charts in the 50's after we waited 10 years. This single should be poppin coast to coast top 10 and bangin out in every stereo like when Pac dropped "All Eyez On Me." We haven't seen anything. I hope Dre can come through but this is not looking good. People are talkin about Interscope but if he can't touch that new fanbase (under 25) that wasn't there when the last album dropped it will be a lifeless effort. At some point, Interscope is going to say we need to step back and cut our losses. They aren't just going to pour all this money into all this stuff and not get any return. Think about the Bishop Lamont Dre singles that didn't work out. I hope Dre can come up huge with the next single, we need something like "Nuthin But A G' Thang."
This is actually a good point. The thing about it is this single has been getting real good air play at Power 106 and that 97.1 station. It's crazy cuz the airplay is there, it's just not blowing up like it should.
I personally think the track is real good, it's a very solid song. However it seems Dre waited a bit too long to drop this. He always talks about his troubles with being able to connect with the younger generation, but waiting even longer is not helping. Time waits for no one. Dre is no exception.
Hopefully he'll be able to pull through with something proper.
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