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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: M Dogg™ on December 31, 2002, 02:25:40 AM
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If you get offended by racist comments in rap, why listen. I listened to rap for many years, and I've neve been offended. Half the shit they say, coming from a minority point of view, makes sense. On this board, it seems that if a white person talks some stupit shit about race, 3/4 the board agrees, and they don't want to listen. A minority talks, and everyone argues and shit. Well I want to say this. You get offended by rap music, turn it off. They are making a point coming from a black point of view in the United States, and it must be true because as a Mexican/Native American who grew up poor and under the system, I see what they are saying. Remember, people don't say contraveral stuff unless they mean it, because record labels don't want to lose money. I think instead of being offended, that maybe you should try to understand. And if not, don't buy the CD, exchange it, and get something that will be kinder to your ears. The world is a very tuff, and real place, and lots of bad shit happends, even in the United States. People are expressing themselves after 300 years of slavery, and 140 years of opression, in which a whole community was reshaped. As I said, you can't take it, don't buy, so why complain?
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If you get offended by racist comments in rap, why listen. I listened to rap for many years, and I've neve been offended. Half the shit they say, coming from a minority point of view, makes sense. On this board, it seems that if a white person talks some stupit shit about race, 3/4 the board agrees, and they don't want to listen. A minority talks, and everyone argues and shit. Well I want to say this. You get offended by rap music, turn it off. They are making a point coming from a black point of view in the United States, and it must be true because as a Mexican/Native American who grew up poor and under the system, I see what they are saying. Remember, people don't say contraveral stuff unless they mean it, because record labels don't want to lose money. I think instead of being offended, that maybe you should try to understand. And if not, don't buy the CD, exchange it, and get something that will be kinder to your ears. The world is a very tuff, and real place, and lots of bad shit happends, even in the United States. People are expressing themselves after 300 years of slavery, and 140 years of opression, in which a whole community was reshaped. As I said, you can't take it, don't buy, so why complain?
Well said.
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If you get offended by racist comments in rap, why listen. I listened to rap for many years, and I've neve been offended. Half the shit they say, coming from a minority point of view, makes sense. On this board, it seems that if a white person talks some stupit shit about race, 3/4 the board agrees, and they don't want to listen. A minority talks, and everyone argues and shit. Well I want to say this. You get offended by rap music, turn it off. They are making a point coming from a black point of view in the United States, and it must be true because as a Mexican/Native American who grew up poor and under the system, I see what they are saying. Remember, people don't say contraveral stuff unless they mean it, because record labels don't want to lose money. I think instead of being offended, that maybe you should try to understand. And if not, don't buy the CD, exchange it, and get something that will be kinder to your ears. The world is a very tuff, and real place, and lots of bad shit happends, even in the United States. People are expressing themselves after 300 years of slavery, and 140 years of opression, in which a whole community was reshaped. As I said, you can't take it, don't buy, so why complain?
you said it the best way possible you cant take it dont buy so why complain word to that peace
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Damn, that's deep.. and the truth..! I know what cha sayin..It's all about expression..Take dem concerts and live performeces, if they said this or that, they will be arrested..While hard-rockers be "pissin in the crowd" for years, and also screamed fuck this and that.. Even end 1900 they wanted to silence the black americans, so what you hear now is a logic result of underpression..
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Racism is NEVER right. It doesn't matter from which side it comes (if u want to call it "side"), rather a white human talks shit like that or a black human! IT IS NEVER RIGHT. So for some ppl there might be a point to complain about.
I am white, I do listen to bands like Dead Prez, who have got some racist lyrics no doubt. But most of their reasons to be angry at white ppl are no bullshit, so I try to understand their anger... Plus, Rap lyrics are mostly exaggerated, no doubt! No u better don't trip...
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Racism is NEVER right. It doesn't matter from which side it comes (if u want to call it "side"), rather a white human talks shit like that or a black human! IT IS NEVER RIGHT. So for some ppl there might be a point to complain about.
I am white, I do listen to bands like Dead Prez, who have got some racist lyrics no doubt. But most of their reasons to be angry at white ppl are no bullshit, so I try to understand their anger... Plus, Rap lyrics are mostly exaggerated, no doubt! No u better don't trip...
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Yes, rascism is never right...Ok, but in this case the question is; if you don't like these kinda lyrics, why listin? you know... And if you do listin, why complainin.. Nobody holds a gun to the dome and say "listin' bitch!"
But other then that, y'all right!
Peace
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I don't think u should only stop listining to it, if something is wrong, especially regarding racism, u should be allowed to discuss about it!
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I am white, I do listen to bands like Dead Prez, who have got some racist lyrics no doubt. But most of their reasons to be angry at white ppl are no bullshit, so I try to understand their anger... Plus, Rap lyrics are mostly exaggerated, no doubt! No u better don't trip...
Well worded big dogg.
If a white boy walks through a black neighbourhood he gets looked at strange. So how can blacks complain when the same happens.
You see Dead Prez etc dissing white folk because of history etc but that has no relevance to them. Maybe the black man is Seriously jelous of the white man.
I myself have no problem pulling Black women or White, is that a reason to make records with Hatred to my race?
Hmm...
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You hear black rappers with lyrics like "this aint for no white folk" or "strictly for my niggers" and worse!!!!!!!
Yet if Eminem says something like "Aint no niggers allowed to bump this shit"
Blacks would cry or have a fucking fit. LOL
fucking n*****s.
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You hear black rappers with lyrics like "this aint for no white folk" or "strictly for my niggers" and worse!!!!!!!
Yet if Eminem says something like "Aint no niggers allowed to bump this shit"
Blacks would cry or have a fucking fit. LOL
fucking n*****s.
Eminem would never dare say anything dumb like that. LoL
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i think u should stop listening to that shit which bothers you if you are unable to adapt to it.
peace
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If you get offended by racist comments in rap, why listen. I listened to rap for many years, and I've neve been offended. Half the shit they say, coming from a minority point of view, makes sense. On this board, it seems that if a white person talks some stupit shit about race, 3/4 the board agrees, and they don't want to listen. A minority talks, and everyone argues and shit. Well I want to say this. You get offended by rap music, turn it off. They are making a point coming from a black point of view in the United States, and it must be true because as a Mexican/Native American who grew up poor and under the system, I see what they are saying. Remember, people don't say contraveral stuff unless they mean it, because record labels don't want to lose money. I think instead of being offended, that maybe you should try to understand. And if not, don't buy the CD, exchange it, and get something that will be kinder to your ears. The world is a very tuff, and real place, and lots of bad shit happends, even in the United States. People are expressing themselves after 300 years of slavery, and 140 years of opression, in which a whole community was reshaped. As I said, you can't take it, don't buy, so why complain?
I agree 100%. *hits "props" button*
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Well said Lost Angel. I'd hit the props 2 u.
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i dont really care..sometimes find it funny actually...only thing that bothers me is people whining like little bitches about shit that never happened to them and happend generations before them, and trying to make it seem like they have it rough just cause they're another race...or flipping out just cause eminem or another white person says nigga....eventhough its meant in no disrespect....
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what i don't understand is 90% of rap records have direct or indirect disses towards whites but its mostly those white fans that buys the records....
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It's because everybody is fascinated by danger, death, dark stuff. So subliminally, to a white kid in the burbs, buying a dirty 'black' cracker-haters' cd is dangerous, and they get a thrill out of it.
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man we havin deep topics up in dubcc lol...........anyway like i said in the mc ren post i'm have black half white most see me as a black, and i can really say that half the shit we as blacks be complaining about like slavery and shit is bullshit! i mean when i look back at my ancesters it hurts alot to know what they went through but thats no fuckin excuse to say fuck white people we should kill them and shit, i mean shit in reality our worst ghettos in this country the people in em have a better chance of success than most countries, basically if you work your ass off in this country you can make something of your self, it might be harder for some but you can do it. using white peole as an excuse for not making it is pure bullshit these days!
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i dont really care..sometimes find it funny actually...only thing that bothers me is people whining like little bitches about shit that never happened to them and happend generations before them, and trying to make it seem like they have it rough just cause they're another race...or flipping out just cause eminem or another white person says nigga....eventhough its meant in no disrespect....
GENERATIONS AGO!!!!!!!!! Damn
Las generation was the one fighting for civil right, not allowed in resturants and shit. This generation had the Rodey King beatings, and police practicing Racial Profiling. Generations Ago, shit is still happing today. It started with slavery, and it continues. Generations ago, the past affects the presents. In slavery, mastrs would sell the fathers of children, so when slavers were freed, men did not know how to be men, for they had no dad to learn from, and therefore, they would leave their families in fear, a problem that still exist today. In Africa, leaving your family is look really down apon, so they didn't learn it there. But after 300 hundred years of slavery, it becomes a learned trait, that many blacks are trying to reverse. Generation ago! Muthaphukka, generations ago, whites killed Native Americans, and generations later, they ain't comeback. A man blows up a black church 35 years ago, and he never comes to justice, as blacks are told to forget about it as it happened years ago. Is that justice. This was this year. Native are fighting to be allow to have casinos so they can support themselves after years of being poor, and dying. This is this generation, just hidden behind the surface The media ain't telling you shit. Generation's ago, whites came to my valley, now San Bernardino California, and took it away from the Native's here, my tribe. Now out of thousands of people, only 2 families exist. What happened generations ago, still effects today. We have a generation now that our parents say no problems exist, yet they see it, and though hip-hop it's expressed. White's are not an excuse, it's just they need to be educated that in ths country we have problems. I never ask anyone to help me, and my family, for we can only help ourselves. But people should know. Peace
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i agree wit some of this shit. I like black people and i like black people. But its true why are black people complainin today if it doesn't even affect them. I mean they are livin in freedom these days. True it happened generations ago. But you've also got to see it from black point of view. that is if your not black. So i can't really say wheter they are right or wrong. They have a good reason to complain tho. I don't know, lol.
peace
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good post, i agree with wat ya sayin
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i agree that minoritys have a right to complain about how they r still opressed 2day, b/c no matter how hard u wanna try an say opression dont exist it does exist so i dont blame blacks when shit like that happens. but they should stop bitching about when the white man looks at em weird cuz they do the same shit to the white man. also its time to stop using slavery as a crutch. none of any of our realatives alive have owned or been slaves or n an maybe a few of us here have a relative that knew some1 that was a slaver owner or a slave. but than again this is comin from a naive white boy that dont kno any better
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MC Ren & Ras Kass - 2 of my favorite artists, and they both have racist remarks in 0.3% of their lyrics..(Aimed at white people)
Do I care? Not really, but if 0.3% turned into 3%, I would probably would find something else to listen to.
If it really WAS 3%, they would probably sell 3K units, instead of 30K.
And that's probably why most people don't care - they're nobodys to the mass public.
Now, if 2Pac or Jay-Z had these kinda lyrics, there would be hella lot more noise about it.
Another thing - black people sees upon themselves as one people, brothership etc.
E.G. a white/brown/yellow dude offend a black guy - you upset the whole black community.
Turned around - a black guy offending a white guy, the regular white guy wouldn't care, he'd probably say: "Yeah so what, we are a few hundred million white people on earth".
So if MC Ren, Ras Kass or Dead Prez says "cracker" in the U.S. - why should I care, or get upset??
They never seen me in their whole life, and probably won't.
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i agree black people have had it rough in the past but the people rapping now weren't born in the 50's and 60's, they weren't born into slavery or none of that shit, and some of them act like ALL white people were against them. like in everything there's bad and good people, they got Klu Klux Klan and they got white people fighting for black rights.
honestly though, jewish people have had it the worst, if you believe in the bible, they were slaves back then, WW2 almost seen them get taken off this earth and still you don't see any JET or Jewish entertainment Television. the don't make songs saying they want to kill fucking germans and this and that. they got one of the best countries in the world and they started from nothing.
the reasons why black people feel segregated today is because they do it to themselves. they have clothes that are supposed to be just for blacks, music that's supposed to be just for blacks, TV, radio stations (here in buffalo we got WBLK) people would have a fit if there was WHTY. W.E.T. and shit like that.
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I actually think Native Americans had it worst. They didn't try to kill off Natives, they did kill off Natives. 2/3 of the population is gone, never t comeback, and the rest that are here are in poverty, and using casinos to get money. They tried to kill the Jews, they did kill the Natives.
And black people weren't born into the 50's, but their parents were. Most were born into the 80's that your talking about, lets see what has happened since then... Rodney King, Riots, O.J. and resentment white people felt because he go off, when black men where not killing white women around the nation, but white cops where beating black men, it's not the black communities fault for O.J., I still hear whites complain. Also, the continuation of racial profiling, and intercities still get shitty education and intercity minorities can't keep up with raising standards, the cut of school funding threaten by President George Bush. It's rooted from their parents fight in the 50' and 60's, and even the 70's, and in the 80's it never went away, so after being silenced for a decade, the 90's exploded, and no one even did shit to resolve the problem, and until people reconize their is a problem, people will stll complain.
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I actually think Native Americans had it worst. They didn't try to kill off Natives, they did kill off Natives. 2/3 of the population is gone, never t comeback, and the rest that are here are in poverty, and using casinos to get money. They tried to kill the Jews, they did kill the Natives.
And black people weren't born into the 50's, but their parents were. Most were born into the 80's that your talking about, lets see what has happened since then... Rodney King, Riots, O.J. and resentment white people felt because he go off, when black men where not killing white women around the nation, but white cops where beating black men, it's not the black communities fault for O.J., I still hear whites complain. Also, the continuation of racial profiling, and intercities still get shitty education and intercity minorities can't keep up with raising standards, the cut of school funding threaten by President George Bush. It's rooted from their parents fight in the 50' and 60's, and even the 70's, and in the 80's it never went away, so after being silenced for a decade, the 90's exploded, and no one even did shit to resolve the problem, and until people reconize their is a problem, people will stll complain.
word, that shit is 100% true
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If you get offended by racist comments in rap, why listen. I listened to rap for many years, and I've neve been offended. Half the shit they say, coming from a minority point of view, makes sense. On this board, it seems that if a white person talks some stupit shit about race, 3/4 the board agrees, and they don't want to listen. A minority talks, and everyone argues and shit. Well I want to say this. You get offended by rap music, turn it off. They are making a point coming from a black point of view in the United States, and it must be true because as a Mexican/Native American who grew up poor and under the system, I see what they are saying. Remember, people don't say contraveral stuff unless they mean it, because record labels don't want to lose money. I think instead of being offended, that maybe you should try to understand. And if not, don't buy the CD, exchange it, and get something that will be kinder to your ears. The world is a very tuff, and real place, and lots of bad shit happends, even in the United States. People are expressing themselves after 300 years of slavery, and 140 years of opression, in which a whole community was reshaped. As I said, you can't take it, don't buy, so why complain?
So because white people, who are probably not related to me, did some awful crimes & racism (I hate all racists, including the black ones), that makes me accountable just because of my skin colour? So if you're great great great grand uncle did some ungodly crime like murder or rape 100 or more years before you were born, that means you must be guilty of your distant relatives crimes? Thats what you are saying!. I have nothing against any race, heck i'm a white Australian & most of my friends are indian, sri lanken & asian (dont say why arent u friends with aboriginals because theres none in my parts, & not many in my state) & some of them act more Australian than me.
& Finally if a white person said on a record "go to a black neighborhood & shoot em up" & "I'm sick of them niggers (they say crackers in there songs, so whats the difference) crying racism for everything bad that happens to them", i'll tell you to fuck off because "english is our form of expression you dont like dont use it or listen to it"
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Racism is NEVER right. It doesn't matter from which side it comes (if u want to call it "side"), rather a white human talks shit like that or a black human! IT IS NEVER RIGHT. So for some ppl there might be a point to complain about.
I am white, I do listen to bands like Dead Prez, who have got some racist lyrics no doubt. But most of their reasons to be angry at white ppl are no bullshit, so I try to understand their anger... Plus, Rap lyrics are mostly exaggerated, no doubt! No u better don't trip...
If a white boy walks through a black neighbourhood he gets looked at strange. So how can blacks complain when the same happens.
You see Dead Prez etc dissing white folk because of history etc but that has no relevance to them. Maybe the black man is Seriously jelous of the white man.
I myself have no problem pulling Black women or White, is that a reason to make records with Hatred to my race?
Hmm...
i agree black people have had it rough in the past but the people rapping now weren't born in the 50's and 60's, they weren't born into slavery or none of that shit, and some of them act like ALL white people were against them. like in everything there's bad and good people, they got Klu Klux Klan and they got white people fighting for black rights.
honestly though, jewish people have had it the worst, if you believe in the bible, they were slaves back then, WW2 almost seen them get taken off this earth and still you don't see any JET or Jewish entertainment Television. the don't make songs saying they want to kill fucking germans and this and that. they got one of the best countries in the world and they started from nothing.
the reasons why black people feel segregated today is because they do it to themselves. they have clothes that are supposed to be just for blacks, music that's supposed to be just for blacks, TV, radio stations (here in buffalo we got WBLK) people would have a fit if there was WHTY. W.E.T. and shit like that.
These words above are as good as gospel!
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They tried to kill the Jews, they did kill the Natives.
Tried to kill the Jews?
What, are you fuckin retarded?
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If you get offended by racist comments in rap, why listen. I listened to rap for many years, and I've neve been offended. Half the shit they say, coming from a minority point of view, makes sense. On this board, it seems that if a white person talks some stupit shit about race, 3/4 the board agrees, and they don't want to listen. A minority talks, and everyone argues and shit. Well I want to say this. You get offended by rap music, turn it off. They are making a point coming from a black point of view in the United States, and it must be true because as a Mexican/Native American who grew up poor and under the system, I see what they are saying. Remember, people don't say contraveral stuff unless they mean it, because record labels don't want to lose money. I think instead of being offended, that maybe you should try to understand. And if not, don't buy the CD, exchange it, and get something that will be kinder to your ears. The world is a very tuff, and real place, and lots of bad shit happends, even in the United States. People are expressing themselves after 300 years of slavery, and 140 years of opression, in which a whole community was reshaped. As I said, you can't take it, don't buy, so why complain?
hey, dawg, wat I would suggest iz 2 care only bout wat makes sence... if wat they say in rap iz real, keep it real, if they r dissin white ppl, only cause, their favourite color iz pink, and they r allergic 2 white- fuck it!!!! I only care if they r dissin white ppl, if they have no reason 2 do dat... u feel me? and if I hear somethin like dat, I do exactly wat u said, I turn dat shit OFF!!!! and one more, dissin any1 cuz of tha color of their skin, iz da fuckin RASIZM, no matter wat u say!!! u got it? and, by tha way, ur post is stupid, like, probably, U, cause u dont even know wat u r talkin bout... fuck it!!!
Chuuch!!!
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Were you made to stand outside during English lessons?
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Were you made to stand outside during English lessons?
LOL
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I've looked over what a lot of you have said and have you taken in the idea that maybe racism is a form of marketing for their music? i.e Targeting a particular "group" and taking the elements from that the "group" and making something that they know they will be able to relate to. Hence, making them fell as though they are able to relate to what message this artist is trying to get across, and inturn making them want to buy their material. It's a bonus if they are able to express themselves in away that other ppl (i.e the ones they discriminate against) like.
*Just something for ya's to think about* :P
It's just like all these lil' "beefs" that happen these days, in most cases it's only away to attract publicity to themselves and try and create sales. It seems that the Hip Hop industry is the most notrious and the biggest user of this tactic.
oh...and btw (solo) MC Ren is whack. *imo of course* ;D
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Props to Lost Angel....
peace
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They tried to kill the Jews, they did kill the Natives.
Tried to kill the Jews?
What, are you fuckin retarded?
Well... alright, I messed up, they did kill milions of Jews, but not every Jew. They did kill almost every Native American.
Also, I'm do with this, no one can come up with an educated answer to why I should ignore the racism around me in my life, and why I should ignore a system that has obress minorities for years. I think I can honestly say, that if you guys were victoms of racial profiling, wither it be schools (which I was, I was labeled at risk to join gangs because I was Mexican and poor, which went to my school records and affected what college say when I applited to them, and other schools saw when I finally transfered out of them damn schools) police, who we all know label minorities to "easier" catch criminals when it is know that 70% of drug dealers are white. People are not racist, because people have no power to be racist. The system is, The system is, the system is. Simple, We live in a racist system, and don't denie it because I have been a victom. But that's ok, because some over come, and fight the fight to end it. Rap music is coming from the same point of view I'm coming from, with no racial lines. The message is there, as these people have had the same experience. Some artist get mad at their misfortions, others get political, others just ignore it and make money off white fans. Either way, their are many people, and they take thinks different. I'm saying, why should I ignore a system that doesn't want me to sucessed. Shit, I'm a self made man, ask Pink, no one but me, and my brains pay for my college, my books, and more and more, my cloths, food, and shoes. I've risen, others haven't, my job is not to say, "theirs no racism, get up because I'm doing well so you should" NO!!!!!!!! My job is to help my community get up. That's why I will say when I speak, this is only for the Mexicans. That's not racism because simply put, they are the only ones that will understand my message that I got to say. Racism is what is done to people, when a teacher singles you out because you got on second hand cloths and are dark. I'm done with this. You ain't like the message, don't buy the album. Go buy a sell out, you want Latin, buy Ricky Martin, you what rap, go buy Will Smith, leave the real issues to those that can handle it. Peace, I'm done with this.
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i dont think u should ignore it...
here there isnt such a large amount of diversity with races. BUT
We got something America - and many other countries dont have - which is the class system.
same thing... poor stay poor, rich get rich.
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6 Million Jews got killed...Thats more than half...Did 6 million blacks get killed? No...These black people bitch wayyyyy to much...You don't hear jews running around going "Oh my god...we were slaves, lets kill all the Germans now"....In fact, rarely any people know about the Holocaust...People need to stop bitching and complaining and start getting their shit together...PeACe
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6 Million Jews got killed...Thats more than half...Did 6 million blacks get killed? No...These black people bitch wayyyyy to much...You don't hear jews running around going "Oh my god...we were slaves, lets kill all the Germans now"....In fact, rarely any people know about the Holocaust...People need to stop bitching and complaining and start getting their shit together...PeACe
That may be true but blacks are the ones still getting shiited on in todays society...
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That may be true but blacks are the ones still getting shiited on in todays society...
My ass...Black people just make a big deal out of everything..."Oh no! I was pulled over by a cop! It was because I'm black!!!"...PeACe
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6 Million Jews got killed...Thats more than half...Did 6 million blacks get killed? No...These black people bitch wayyyyy to much...You don't hear jews running around going "Oh my god...we were slaves, lets kill all the Germans now"....In fact, rarely any people know about the Holocaust...People need to stop bitching and complaining and start getting their shit together...PeACe
Thats what you're doing in a way lol I remember in a post when u said that the whole board were hating on you because u were a jew... Some white people, when they see black people they say that we look at em strange juss cause they white..
One day, I was chillin with these arabs one day and one of em did something and the cop came, the first man they were screamin at was me.. Sometimes some black people are paranoying, but sometimes its true, believe me
peace
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6 Million Jews got killed...Thats more than half...Did 6 million blacks get killed? No...These black people bitch wayyyyy to much...You don't hear jews running around going "Oh my god...we were slaves, lets kill all the Germans now"....In fact, rarely any people know about the Holocaust...People need to stop bitching and complaining and start getting their shit together...PeACe
Thats what you're doing in a way lol I remember in a post when u said that the whole board were hating on you because u were a jew... Some white people, when they see black people they say that we look at em strange juss cause they white..
One day, I was chillin with these arabs one day and one of em did something and the cop came, the first man they were screamin at was me.. Sometimes some black people are paranoying, but sometimes its true, believe me
peace
When Jews get pulled over by cops, they don't say "OMG MAN! a cop pulled me over because i was Jewish!!!"...and my dad gets pulled over a LOT...And if I ever said people hate me cuz I'm Jewish, it's only because people were OPENLY racist towards me on this board (calling me Jew, Kike, etc)...PeAce
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The shit your talking about NIK, I agree with you. Jews got shitted on in Europe, and it somewhat continues in the U.S. To me, any hatred to a race for whatever reason is wrong. I honestly don't hate whites, I just an fighting a system that's unjust to minorities. You talk about not complaining, well when someone hits me, I'm going to fight back. I'm not standing there, and taking it. If someone is trying to rape me, I'm going to wipe his ass, I'm not taking it up the butt. That goes with anything else. A cop pulls me over for no reason, I ask, why am I pulled over, and question what makes them think I have no insurance. People openly hate on Jews here, but then again they openly are mad at blacks ad what they say in music, yet buy the CD, s go figure. But NIK, I understand where you are coming from and shit like the Holocast, as much as people want to, will never be forgotten, because many Jews also us that. But it is important to learn about, like slavery, and Native American genocide, and Japonese consitration camps, and the bad treatment of Irish, and slavery, and the taking of half of Mexico. But when we learn, learn the lessens too, not just that it happened and why were people thinking like that, for we must understand where people come from before we can completely tolerate them. Yeah, 6 Million Jews will never be replaced. 6 Million deaths, think about that, that's almost the size of people in L.A., it double the size of the I.E., that's a lot of people, death because of intolerance and racism. And though it happened many year to us, ask you grandparents, they remember WWII, and that's in their life time. Remember, civil rights is only 35 years old also, which is younger than most your parents, and Rodney King is only 10 years old, which was in your lifetime. We must not ignore, but instead learn about how we got where we are, to better understand each other.
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Luke ia an ass Who u callin nigga Pecker?
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Lost Angel u need 2 teach these Fools.
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I am part Native American, White, & Black. So, I guess I can see where everyone is coming from. The Native American's were descriminated against more than the Blacks, especially up in Canada when the British and the French came over. They killed a lot of Natives. Today, Natives are still descriminated against more than the Blacks are. When I went up to Canada to visit my relatives, which are Natives, it turned out that the government put sanctions on their fishing rights (they were not allowed to fish). That is how alot of Natives up there make a living. Now tell me that is not descrimination. Some Natives are forced to live on reservations also.
Now coming from a black point of view, yes some blacks are still descriminated against by the whites. But like my Uncle's friend said (he is Black), "You can't hate a whole race just because a few people who belong to that race are ignorant".
And yes, I agree with Lost Angel, if you are offended by the lyrics then don't listen to the song.
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If blacks diss whites because of the past and they way blacks got treated (and still get in some areas n shit) I kinda understand this and I'll still bumb their shit and support 'em.
BUT
befor that topic about Ren was satrted it there was another topic about Em cuz he might have said 'Nigga' (100% obvies in NO racist way, prolly something like 70% of Em's homies are black)
and still people said 'Fuck him if he really said this shit'.
Em would NOT be dissing blacks
Ren on the other hand is clearly dissing whites in GENERAL plus he said fuck blacks who fuck with whites
and still some people even agreed with him
I don't think this is the right way
How can the situation of blacks improve if blacks just say 'don't fuck with these white mothafuckas'.
I mean what we ALL want is all races to be treated the same
so always thinkin about the past and hating on the whites of today(who are NOT the same whites that treated blacks like shit back in those fucked up days) doesn't help to improve black people's situation.
and the example of this big word 'Nigga' is nice to see how people be WAY more trippin of a possible (in Em's case NOT even possible) diss to blacks than of a possible or even obvies diss to whites.
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I don't think this is the right way
How can the situation of blacks improve if blacks just say 'don't fuck with these white mothafuckas'.
I mean what we ALL want is all races to be treated the same
so always thinkin about the past and hating on the whites of today(who are NOT the same whites that treated blacks like shit back in those fucked up days) doesn't help to improve black people's situation.
Alright, to generalize like you did in that first sentance I quoted, is wrong. Blacks to need to rise no more than they did. By themselves since slavery, they have overcame sharecropping, lynchings, and had their own civil rights movements, had their own rallies, and made it so that in a racist country, they can get at least a little chance to make it, and some do. The black race has no more to prove. Now they gave themselves a chance, but that's just a little chance. Some minorities grow fustrated at situations they are in, and they lash out. Just like sometimes here, white people grow fustrated with what blacks say, and the lash out. It's normal, so if you hear a black person dissing whites in a rhyme, it's fustration.
And to have every race treated the same, that's not happening until everyone in this country is bi-racial. Peace.
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I'm seeing a whole hell of alot of posts on here from white people talking about what black people go through. You're not black so you don't know period. We bitch and complain for NO REASON, BULLSHIT !!! F*ckin' white people always think it's all rosy and great for everyone because everything is fine and dandy for them. I walk the streets and people fear me because of my skin color. Has a lady ever swithced the hand she's holding her purse in when you walk by ??? Have you ever been stalked in the store to the point where you are forced to leave the store in anger ??? Have you ever been the victim in a crime and been abused and nearly arrested for trying to report the crime ??? Have You ever been handcuffed for standing in front of your own house too long ??? Have you ever had a business throw your application away as you turned it in ??? Most white people have never been a part of or know about shit like this. Usually when I tell a white person about shit that I go through they just sit there in amazement. My whole point is that it's not as equal as some may think. Even with all the schooling I am going to get I will run into a wall of racism sooner or later. Our system does not appreciate black men in high places, the only way to get there is to turn your back on your own people in most cases, or be a totally different person in front of white people. Our countries motto should be: If you want to be successful be like the white man, that's how our system works. Stereotypes will always exist in our country. Even if you are not personally racist, the system will remain racist. Look at the President/Vice Presidents in America. Hundreds of years of white men, anybody else would lose their life instantly, if racism is over, then why is that ???
I acknowledge everyone elses struggles too. White man made a history of abuse of other races. All other races have had their share of abuse from white men...
I am in no way racist. I just see it the way it is. In America at least, white men have all of the power, and they sure as hell aren't about to give it up.Check to see who is the oppressor and who are the opressees. So before you say the struggle is over analyze the situation closer and see who is at the head of our System.. It sure as hell isn't a Black, Hispanic, Asian, or Jewish face, it's a white one...
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it ain't even worth arguin about this anymore, this shit will go on forever, quick! everybody go kill yourself now
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That may be true but blacks are the ones still getting shiited on in todays society...
My ass...Black people just make a big deal out of everything..."Oh no! I was pulled over by a cop! It was because I'm black!!!"...PeACe
lol
Thats true
When i got disrespected by cops I didnt go "Ohh my god you are doin this coz i'm white arent you!"
lmao
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most off yall make a good point.
but lets stop these topics about race
lets get back to the music
thats wat WCC is all about
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Typical. People ain't want to listen to this shit. But let us mention it exist, and people get pissy, but don't want to help out to quiet. Oh well, back to the music, but don't diss on a minority complaining about being in a system of whites, when you support Eminem breaking the colorlines of rap, which I support also. But you can't be one sided, because it's unfair when even on a board for black music, that common white opinion is the majority here. Peace.
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I don't think this is the right way
How can the situation of blacks improve if blacks just say 'don't fuck with these white mothafuckas'.
I mean what we ALL want is all races to be treated the same
so always thinkin about the past and hating on the whites of today(who are NOT the same whites that treated blacks like shit back in those fucked up days) doesn't help to improve black people's situation.
Alright, to generalize like you did in that first sentance I quoted, is wrong. Blacks to need to rise no more than they did. By themselves since slavery, they have overcame sharecropping, lynchings, and had their own civil rights movements, had their own rallies, and made it so that in a racist country, they can get at least a little chance to make it, and some do. The black race has no more to prove. Now they gave themselves a chance, but that's just a little chance. Some minorities grow fustrated at situations they are in, and they lash out. Just like sometimes here, white people grow fustrated with what blacks say, and the lash out. It's normal, so if you hear a black person dissing whites in a rhyme, it's fustration.
And to have every race treated the same, that's not happening until everyone in this country is bi-racial. Peace.
I know it's not happening any soon but how will it EVER happen if people generally say they don't even wanna fuck with the other race like Ren said in his lyircs
like I said I do understand why he sais shit like this that's why I'll still support him but fact is it is wrong, that's fo shure.