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Title: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: D-Nice on January 29, 2011, 08:13:48 PM
Rakim absolutely murdered the 2nd one. Beat is bananas. What yall think?
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Post by: Matty on January 29, 2011, 08:37:37 PM
prefer the first, cleaner beat 8)
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: D-Nice on January 29, 2011, 08:39:15 PM
True but that guitar riff on the 2nd one hit soooo hard. I wish it was a solo track for Rakim. He KILLED that shit.
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: Hittman2001 on January 29, 2011, 08:47:17 PM
Man, i remember the day Blueprint 2 leaked.....i was hyped for that album because of this track....lol

anyway,  gotta say the original takes it.....however i still get the chills during the hook and beat build up between dre and rakim's verse.  He absolutely killed it


would've actually prefered just hearing dre, hittman's bridge, and rakim like it was originally intended.....guess i gotta settle with dj jam's version
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: D-Nice on January 29, 2011, 08:51:04 PM
Man, i remember the day Blueprint 2 leaked.....i was hyped for that album because of this track....lol

anyway,  gotta say the original takes it.....however i still get the chills during the hook and beat build up between dre and rakim's verse.  He absolutely killed it


would've actually prefered just hearing dre, hittman's bridge, and rakim like it was originally intended.....guess i gotta settle with dj jam's version

I think I listened to the 2nd one 10 times before I got to the rest of the album. Shame Rakim never got a album out on Aftermath. I am digging through my cds and pulled this one out and have not stopped bumping it since.
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Post by: Hittman2001 on January 29, 2011, 08:56:38 PM
to be honest i dont think i've ever listened to that album fully.  i used to skip jay's part (1:53 mark) lol and just go from there.  when i look back on it, i wish rakim would've released his album then.  but, i dont think it would've lived up to the internet hype at the time.
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: D-Nice on January 29, 2011, 08:59:56 PM
to be honest i dont think i've ever listened to that album fully.  i used to skip jay's part (1:53 mark) lol and just go from there.  when i look back on it, i wish rakim would've released his album then.  but, i dont think it would've lived up to the internet hype at the time.

I personally like that album more than the 1st Blueprint. I still think the 1st one is a better overall album but the 2nd had more dynamic singles. I think released it would have done what it supposed to do and then some.
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: JohnnyL on January 29, 2011, 09:12:48 PM
  First one is a classic.  2nd one is really nice too though.  Always liked that they made it sound similar to the original but added the extra elements like the 007 music.  And yes, they all did their thing, but Rakim ripped his verse. Had me hyped for that "Oh My God" album.  Too bad that never went down.
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: D-Nice on January 29, 2011, 09:25:00 PM
  First one is a classic.  2nd one is really nice too though.  Always liked that they made it sound similar to the original but added the extra elements like the 007 music.  And yes, they all did their thing, but Rakim ripped his verse. Had me hyped for that "Oh My God" album.  Too bad that never went down.

Both are classics to me. Dre- one of the best when it comes to the remix
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: BlueSwan on January 29, 2011, 09:30:32 PM
To me, the original "The Watcher" is one of the alltime greatest hip-hop tracks. Second one is nice.
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: The Predator on January 30, 2011, 02:26:46 AM
The original, everything on that is Dr Dre at his finest. The scratching at 1:58 mins  :o

The sequel, lyrically sharp but the music sounded like an off-key 007 theme. Still dope though.
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Post by: TRG on January 30, 2011, 02:36:00 AM
Definitely The Watcher  8)

classic track, and great opener for 2001.

Watcher II is still dope though.
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: Trip Dee on January 30, 2011, 03:06:38 AM
1st one hands down imo. and if it would have Rakim on it, we wouldn't even have this conversation...

Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: Dre-Day on January 30, 2011, 03:18:36 AM
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=74358.0
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: Gamestarr on January 30, 2011, 03:44:56 AM
The Watcher >
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: D-e-f- on January 30, 2011, 04:18:16 AM
the original has so much harder hitting drums, it's not even funny. though, as y'all said already, that rakim verse on the second one ... :)

still, if I had to chose: the original!
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: RingMan on January 30, 2011, 10:00:55 AM
Rakim absolutely murdered the 2nd one.
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: Okka on January 30, 2011, 12:10:47 PM
1st one hands down imo.
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: Fonkarround on January 30, 2011, 12:55:19 PM
The Watcher II is a very good track, but original one is a classic track
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: YoungGotti on January 31, 2011, 03:02:53 PM
I like the original, better beat imo
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: LAC/EASTSIDE on January 31, 2011, 03:50:33 PM
Rakim absolutely murdered the 2nd one. Beat is bananas. What yall think?

My only complaint was Rakim not getting extra bars. He would have made Jay-z look even more foolish. Rakim terminated the beat ha.
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: Black Excellence on January 31, 2011, 04:17:18 PM
prefer the first, cleaner beat 8)
exactly. and dre is flowing correctly on it solo.
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: CJMacc on January 31, 2011, 10:49:44 PM
the og.... i luv second one alot though but jay-z verse just don't sound right on that beat..... rakim tore it up....
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: HighEyeCue on February 01, 2011, 05:02:09 AM
I like the first one, Dre almost had a Rakim like flow on it himself
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: Stan on February 01, 2011, 02:15:05 PM
Anyone else hear an alarm clock go off in OG Watcher?  Interesting...
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: Okka on February 03, 2011, 09:04:50 AM
Hittman also had a nice verse on the second part, but he was taken off and Jay was added.
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: Fonkarround on February 08, 2011, 04:19:48 PM
Anyone else hear an alarm clock go off in OG Watcher?  Interesting...
What you mean?
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: Stan on February 08, 2011, 05:03:22 PM
Anyone else hear an alarm clock go off in OG Watcher?  Interesting...
What you mean?

Listen closely ... then wait about 20 seconds deep and you'll hear it.  I always wondered why he put that in there.
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: Dre-Day on February 09, 2011, 01:20:46 AM
Anyone else hear an alarm clock go off in OG Watcher?  Interesting...
What you mean?

Listen closely ... then wait about 20 seconds deep and you'll hear it.  I always wondered why he put that in there.
watcher--watch-alarmclock?
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: G-Funk on February 09, 2011, 01:25:32 AM
Anyone else hear an alarm clock go off in OG Watcher?  Interesting...
What you mean?
Listen closely ... then wait about 20 seconds deep and you'll hear it.  I always wondered why he put that in there.
ah, I know what you are talking about.
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: rick1 on February 09, 2011, 03:48:55 AM
Anyone else hear an alarm clock go off in OG Watcher?  Interesting...
What you mean?

Listen closely ... then wait about 20 seconds deep and you'll hear it.  I always wondered why he put that in there.
watcher--watch-alarmclock?

:)
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: Dre-Day on February 09, 2011, 05:21:43 AM
Anyone else hear an alarm clock go off in OG Watcher?  Interesting...
What you mean?

Listen closely ... then wait about 20 seconds deep and you'll hear it.  I always wondered why he put that in there.
the song was playing on my mp3 player today & it's the first time i noticed it actually. the sound stays until the end of the song, it's annoying
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on February 09, 2011, 05:32:09 AM
Anyone else hear an alarm clock go off in OG Watcher?  Interesting...
What you mean?

Listen closely ... then wait about 20 seconds deep and you'll hear it.  I always wondered why he put that in there.
the song was playing on my mp3 player today & it's the first time i noticed it actually. the sound stays until the end of the song, it's annoying

hahah, and now that dude pointed it out its going to bother you every time. Don't you hate that?
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: Dre-Day on February 09, 2011, 05:36:18 AM
Anyone else hear an alarm clock go off in OG Watcher?  Interesting...
What you mean?

Listen closely ... then wait about 20 seconds deep and you'll hear it.  I always wondered why he put that in there.
the song was playing on my mp3 player today & it's the first time i noticed it actually. the sound stays until the end of the song, it's annoying

hahah, and now that dude pointed it out its going to bother you every time. Don't you hate that?
hopefully i won't focus on it so much next time
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: Fonkarround on February 09, 2011, 05:49:10 AM
Anyone else hear an alarm clock go off in OG Watcher?  Interesting...
What you mean?

Listen closely ... then wait about 20 seconds deep and you'll hear it.  I always wondered why he put that in there.
Oh, i thought you mean that it goes off in some strict moment or so.. yeah, i heard that sound - not botherin me anyway.
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: Stan on February 09, 2011, 09:24:06 AM
Anyone else hear an alarm clock go off in OG Watcher?  Interesting...
What you mean?

Listen closely ... then wait about 20 seconds deep and you'll hear it.  I always wondered why he put that in there.
Oh, i thought you mean that it goes off in some strict moment or so.. yeah, i heard that sound - not botherin me anyway.

Yea one of those things that once your aware of it you can't put it aside ... sorry ha ha ... I've been trying to figure it out for awhile.  Yea maybe a watch goes off to signal "watching" but that seems a little dramatic doesn't it?
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: You'll Never Walk Alone on February 09, 2011, 11:02:41 AM
The watcher. Part 2's still dope but i dont like the beat as much.
Title: Re: Tha Watcher or Tha Watcher 2- better track and beat?
Post by: Hoodlum204 on February 09, 2011, 11:25:03 AM
The Watcher Is Classic IMO.....The Watcher 2 Was Just Okay!!
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Post by: OG Hack Wilson on February 09, 2011, 11:33:15 AM
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