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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 19, 2011, 01:28:11 PM
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Care to share your opinion?
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Kendrick Lamar shitting on drake. Alot of people hate on drake but i actually dont mind his shit. He's a telented artist, and a true artist not just a rapper. I see similarities with kendrick and him but kendrick goes way harder.
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^^^how u figure that? (just askin)^^^
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kendrick got better lyrics by far honestly
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much prefer Kendrick Lamar. i listened to Drake's album, and just found it so boring. it's not because he makes love-related songs that i didnt like it, it's the fact that that's pretty much what ALL the songs were about. and lots of any subject eventually gets boring. so it got repetitive, plus his voice is so monotone, and i find his flow and delivery really boring too. not hating on Drake, fair play to him for being so successful and what not, i just personally don't really like his music an awful lot.
Kendrick, on the other hand, is probably my favourite rapper at the moment, and has been since the Kendrick Lamar EP dropped. personally i think he's much more talented than Drake - he's versatile, in that he can make quality songs about various topics, and is much more interesting to listen to. plus just a far better MC, in my opinion.
just my 2 cents
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I'm failing miserably to see any single comparison between the two.
It's like comparing Tupac & Lady Gaga.
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I'm failing miserably to see any single comparison between the two.
It's like comparing Tupac & Lady Gaga.
Both are/were attention whores. So, I'm not sure...
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I'm failing miserably to see any single comparison between the two.
It's like comparing Tupac & Lady Gaga.
Both are/were attention whores. So, I'm not sure...
As far as comparing songs goes though lol.
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I'm failing miserably to see any single comparison between the two.
It's like comparing Tupac & Lady Gaga.
i know right, such and awkward comparison.
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If anything i see more similarities between j cole and kendrick lamar
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both of em are kids tho.
why listen to rappin children?
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Smh, im not even gona bother
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both of em are kids tho.
why listen to rappin children?
I know right? Why bother listening to pac
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Nah, i cant help it. In real life how u would come up with a 2pac vs. Gaga comparison is delusional and str8 dick riding. And also, if ur aware of her antics then u would know duke is on some str8 ``im a fan of this artist, i really am and i have an example, but everything this artist makes is wack to me`` shit. Duke is just a critic tryna get noticed in real life and tries so hard 2 derail/fade all of my good shit. BUT ANYWAY, Drake`s core audience is women just like any other entertainer that gets on, yall do remember that women outnumber men right. So if u get confused about Drake by his choice of singles and tha way he carrys himself at times then its undestandable, he really is just a new kind of rapper. I picked Kendrick as of now becuz as of this second im caught up in that ``flavor of tha month`` aura, even tho i 1st heard his music back in 08/09. I didnt wana pick J.Cole becuz tha fact remains he`s still a local and he`s yet to atleast gain my interest with anything, just becuz u signed with Jay Z doesnt make u interesting. But as far as tha first few automatically choosing Kendrick just goes to show that this ``westcoast`` board really hasnt grown much, even tho honestly i have 2 damn near agree with u. Right now tha only thing i see Drake has Kendrick beat in is tha fact Drake changed tha way rappers spit a little bit and he has Pop appeal which is good. And no matter whut u wana say about Drake he made everybody have 2 step their game up and he brought producers to tha game that made other producers have 2 step their game up. Other than that as of now (and im expecting and anticipating to hear more from Kendrick), they`re neck and neck with Drake just slightly ahead, even tho honestly that could change at any near moment with tha right amount of quality material consistantly being put out starting today. U kinda have 2 ask urself has Kendrick already reached his potential, just like Bishop Lamont has or is he really really trilly about 2 spaz tha fuck out on us?
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much prefer Kendrick Lamar. i listened to Drake's album, and just found it so boring. it's not because he makes love-related songs that i didnt like it, it's the fact that that's pretty much what ALL the songs were about. and lots of any subject eventually gets boring. so it got repetitive, plus his voice is so monotone, and i find his flow and delivery really boring too. not hating on Drake, fair play to him for being so successful and what not, i just personally don't really like his music an awful lot.
In other words..... HE SUCKS!!!
Drake is one of the most over-rated artists out there. I can remember picking up some stuff on him when others on the internet were giving him major praise, like any southern affiliated artist who hung around Cash Money got in 2007/2008, and I didn't see where all the hype was. It was below average IMO, with the majority of major, or upcoming Hip Hop at that time - a decisive reason as to why I don't buy music any more.
He's one of these morons who exploit the over-use of auto-tune in modern music.
The image, and impressionability sells, but trust me, when real music makes another comeback, Drake will be out very quickly along with most of these other half-hearted "artists" who haven't been smart enough to invest wisely, or who haven't got the creativity to adapt
Kendrick Lamar > Drake!!!
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Nah, i cant help it. In real life how u would come up with a 2pac vs. Gaga comparison is delusional and str8 dick riding. And also, if ur aware of her antics then u would know duke is on some str8 ``im a fan of this artist, i really am and i have an example, but everything this artist makes is wack to me`` shit. Duke is just a critic tryna get noticed in real life and tries so hard 2 derail/fade all of my good shit. BUT ANYWAY, Drake`s core audience is women just like any other entertainer that gets on, yall do remember that women outnumber men right. So if u get confused about Drake by his choice of singles and tha way he carrys himself at times then its undestandable, he really is just a new kind of rapper. I picked Kendrick as of now becuz as of this second im caught up in that ``flavor of tha month`` aura, even tho i 1st heard his music back in 08/09. I didnt wana pick J.Cole becuz tha fact remains he`s still a local and he`s yet to atleast gain my interest with anything, just becuz u signed with Jay Z doesnt make u interesting. But as far as tha first few automatically choosing Kendrick just goes to show that this ``westcoast`` board really hasnt grown much, even tho honestly i have 2 damn near agree with u. Right now tha only thing i see Drake has Kendrick beat in is tha fact Drake changed tha way rappers spit a little bit and he has Pop appeal which is good. And no matter whut u wana say about Drake he made everybody have 2 step their game up and he brought producers to tha game that made other producers have 2 step their game up. Other than that as of now (and im expecting and anticipating to hear more from Kendrick), they`re neck and neck with Drake just slightly ahead, even tho honestly that could change at any near moment with tha right amount of quality material consistantly being put out starting today. U kinda have 2 ask urself has Kendrick already reached his potential, just like Bishop Lamont has or is he really really trilly about 2 spaz tha fuck out on us?
The reason this board hasn't grown much is that the majority respect authentic work. Most on here have the intelligence to understand whether or not music has been carefully assessed through quality control, or whether or not it's just been sh!t out to capitalize quickly on 'flavour of the month' trends... That's fine for pop fans, and investors, but a West coast forum want a talented artist who's reliable, and consistent in the level of his work where their hard earned money isn't wasted...
People aren't stupid and know some sacrifices have to be made in order to hit commercial success and stay on there for a little while, but when it's individuals with very little talent to begin with, people on these boards wont support it, because there's plenty of others with genuine 100% talent, and have provided years of good quality product to fans not getting their turn or opportunity to show what they can do at mainstream level regardless of whether or not their willing to modify their whole content, and image.
It has nothing to do with a 90's sound either, because artists or producers who are driven enough to adapt to adjust and tweak their work for a modern audience do just that, and still get love from the entire board. Neither Kendrick, nor Drake have the ability to contain an entire hardcore fan base for decades, and never will. Granted Kendrick can spit reasonably well, but his voice isn't to everybody's taste and he lacks star quality - Drake, exactly the same, both monotone rappers with no individuality or passion, and that's half the problem these days. There isn't a big enough market in the forefront to select a rapper for his uniqueness or personality. Game, and Kanye maybe, but no one young, no one new
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Wierd combo, Kendrick V.S. J. Cole or Kendrick V.S. Freddie Gibbs would've been better.
I'll go with Drake.
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But as far as tha first few automatically choosing Kendrick just goes to show that this ``westcoast`` board really hasnt grown much, even tho honestly i have 2 damn near agree with u.
Besides that people actually explained why they like Kendrick better you don't think anything's strange about this statement like, say, you agree with Kendrick being better?
Oh, did you manage to sneak into your "grandmother's house" yet?
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Nobody said WHY he is better, its just abuncha Drake is a pop star act disses, basically ignoring tha fact that Drake is actually lyrically talented and giving all of tha props 2 tha home team outta bias. Like yall do know jealousy is a bitch emotion right. I mean I fuck wit Kendrick kinda tuff now but where does he go, better yet how does he top ``vanity slave 2`` (and yes i know Kendrick has alott of other tough records too). And i think its a pretty fair comparison in tha grand scheme of things, i just think tha truth about tha quality of Drake`s skills are too hard to over look. Basically, all Ive seen is abuncha anti-successful rapper disses which is more common than not and ``i think Kendrick is better becuz he hasnt made it yet`` shit, in other words alot of statements with very little backbone 2 it. But i fuck wit Kendrick tuff too so i understand it but sheep flock in high numbers. We`ll have 2 see what direction Kendrick goes during and after this whole ``detox`` phase, it definitely should boost his game up. Im not just gona hand Drake tha `w` like that but as far as i see it this moment he has a slight lead over Kendrick.
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Kendrick Lamar. To me lyrically hes better than drake and he can switch his flow up. Drake just bores me
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I'm still trying to figure out why this is a comparison. Usually there has to be some similarities to make this work.
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Its radiotube tho he'll come up with some fucked up reason
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Its radiotube tho he'll come up with some fucked up reason
Of course he will. There is a method behind all his madness.
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Kendrick and Drake are very similar, u dont know too much of anything if u cant c that. If they were similar ver batim u`d find sum other reason 2 complain.
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Kendrick and Drake are very similar, u dont know too much of anything if u cant c that. If they were similar ver batim u`d find sum other reason 2 complain.
LOL, alright. Show me one similarity in their music & I'll agree with you.
Different styles, different beat selections, different flows, different lyrical content, different everything.
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Actually dumb ass, everything u named is where they`re similar at but u wouldnt know becuz u`ve only heard a handful of Drake material. Hope off tha west coast`s dick u fake ass new yorker.
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Everything I've heard from Drake doesn't even register on my radar for good music.
First time I heard a Kendrick Lamar verse I was like 'Damn who is this?!'
Big big difference.
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Kendrick Lamar
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Actually dumb ass, everything u named is where they`re similar at but u wouldnt know becuz u`ve only heard a handful of Drake material. Hope off tha west coast`s dick u fake ass new yorker.
I heard his first mixtape he dropped & his album. Am I missing something?
Post one song from Drake & one from Kendrick that are similar in any sense lol.
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Actually dumb ass, everything u named is where they`re similar at but u wouldnt know becuz u`ve only heard a handful of Drake material. Hope off tha west coast`s dick u fake ass new yorker.
I heard his first mixtape he dropped & his album. Am I missing something?
Post one song from Drake & one from Kendrick that are similar in any sense lol.
nah i'm good, don't want to. just listen and see for yourself
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nah i'm good, don't want to. just listen and see for yourself
:eh:
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nah i'm good, don't want to. just listen and see for yourself
:eh:
Yeah, really lmfao.
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nah i'm good, don't want to. just listen and see for yourself
:eh:
Yeah, really lmfao.
yes really, i don't need 2 waste my time showing people [for free] (especially you). especially when i already know where it's going.
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nah i'm good, don't want to. just listen and see for yourself
:eh:
Yeah, really lmfao.
yes really, i don't need 2 waste my time showing people [for free] (especially you). especially when i already know where it's going.
So the original motive for the thread was...?
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nah i'm good, don't want to. just listen and see for yourself
:eh:
Yeah, really lmfao.
yes really, i don't need 2 waste my time showing people [for free] (especially you). especially when i already know where it's going.
So the original motive for the thread was...?
2 talk about it for a second, not drag out some senseless debate. Kendrick and Drake are very similar (and you'll see more with that in time). if u don't get it now, u'll see it later. even tho whole time that wasn't even why i was comparing them in tha 1st place.
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LOL, so why were you comparing them in the "first place"?
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LOL, so why were you comparing them in the "first place"?
a battle
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LOL, so why were you comparing them in the "first place"?
a battle
You mean whipping up the Kendrick fans who are mad at Drakes rise to power? :laugh:
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LOL, so why were you comparing them in the "first place"?
a battle
You mean whipping up the Kendrick fans who are mad at Drakes rise to power? :laugh:
lol, that wasn't exactly what i was aiming for. i really was hoping for an HONEST discussion.
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You mean whipping up the Kendrick fans who are mad at Drakes rise to power? :laugh:
lol, that wasn't exactly what i was aiming for. i really was hoping for an HONEST discussion.
Hmmmmm I doubt many will be crying bro ;D
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Honestly speaking, I don't see the purpose.
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Honestly speaking, I don't see the purpose.
this wasn't a "chamillitaryclick explains it all" type of thread
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They're both similar in the sense that they're both monotone rappers with no unique selling point (USP) :D
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Drake sounds to much like Lil Wayne with the rhyme cadence and fake southern accent. I would be interested to hear what he really sounds like when he isn't trying to sound like someone else, because he's got talent.
Kendrick is more than a punchline type rapper which is most of what Ive heard from Drake, not doubting he can make songs without the over reliance on punchilnes and one liners, its just what he presents to the mainstream. And I dont agree with the fact that his fans dictate his music. If he had more musical integrity rather than monetary priorities, I'm sure he could pull off something a little less generic.
So Kendrick wins.
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Drake sounds to much like Lil Wayne with the rhyme cadence and fake southern accent. I would be interested to hear what he really sounds like when he isn't trying to sound like someone else, because he's got talent.
I've actually heard some songs he did before he blew up and he sounded dope. Check em out if you're interested. I think there's a mixtape
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The way drake raps is annoying as fuck sometimes and minaj aswell that #hashtag style or whatever the fuck they call it. I think drake has some decent songs its just that hes way overrated
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Honestly speaking, I don't see the purpose.
this wasn't a "chamillitaryclick explains it all" type of thread
It wasn't any type of thread besides a "Look at me, I like to say things for shock reaction" thread.
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Smh Spam, when will u realize that i just dont like u... On subject: does anybody here even fuck wit Young Money. Becuz its pointless 2 debate with this much hatin floating around, its kinda useless 2 even bring em up.
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lol when i try to sum up drakes lyrical prowess in the game all i can come up with is:
something something something, come n find me.....Nemo."
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Smh Spam, when will u realize that i just dont like u... On subject: does anybody here even fuck wit Young Money. Becuz its pointless 2 debate with this much hatin floating around, its kinda useless 2 even bring em up.
I hate 2c u 2 suffer like this. You and cham need to kiss and make up
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Smh Spam, when will u realize that i just dont like u... On subject: does anybody here even fuck wit Young Money. Becuz its pointless 2 debate with this much hatin floating around, its kinda useless 2 even bring em up.
LOL. More like "Its kinda pointless 2 even bring em up".
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Smh Spam, when will u realize that i just dont like u... On subject: does anybody here even fuck wit Young Money. Becuz its pointless 2 debate with this much hatin floating around, its kinda useless 2 even bring em up.
LOL. More like "Its kinda pointless 2 even bring em up".
Yea Mack Maine is cool and Lil Wayne is hit or miss for me
I just don't like Drake all that much (Fm what ive heard)
Punchline rapping mixed with autotune just doesn't appeal to me (not exactly groundbreaking stuff), and doesn't have the same staying power for me as other types of rap
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Smh Spam, when will u realize that i just dont like u... On subject: does anybody here even fuck wit Young Money. Becuz its pointless 2 debate with this much hatin floating around, its kinda useless 2 even bring em up.
no one's been hating in this thread, you asked a question, so people answered it, and gave reasons for their answer
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^^^ not at 1st. i could tell it was about to go downhill so that's why i pointed shit out. look, honestly, i really don't care and i would love to discuss it but if none of y'all are hip about Drake then it's just a waste of time and an irrelevant conversation. i'm hip 2 Kendrick Lamar aka K.Dot but I know who is who and what is what.
:spam: millitary click smh
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^Clown. I listen to more Drake then you do, hence why I know there are no comparisons between the two. Hence, why I asked to hear these similarities. Hence, why you didn't come up with a single one. Because there aren't any.
You're talking apples & oranges here. They're both fruit (rappers) that's about it.
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^^^ not at 1st. i could tell it was about to go downhill so that's why i pointed shit out. look, honestly, i really don't care and i would love to discuss it but if none of y'all are hip about Drake then it's just a waste of time and an irrelevant conversation. i'm hip 2 Kendrick Lamar aka K.Dot but I know who is who and what is what.
I ain't hatin, but you're saying you need to discuss this with someone who's already a Drake fan in order to sell them fact Drake is good? ???
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y'all don't act like fans to me. and last, if you haven't comprehended my words correctly, I said I'm a fan of both Kendrick and Drake and think both are talented, it's just now Drake has the upper edge (and u have 2 respect that). tha same thing y'all said about Bishop Lamont and every other rapper from the West Coast that was supposed to be hot is tha same thing y'all are saying about Kendrick now, but 3 years from now y'all will be shitting on Kendrick calling him wack compared to his older shit and he's a sellout becuz he makes music for all of his fans instead of just 1 demographic and all of that other blah blah shit y'all be talkin.
Wow, u disagree'd with me, great, but fact is both Kendrick and Drake got more money than all of us combined (even if Kendrick is broke for a right now semi-famous rapper). If he blows up then he blows up (i pray that man does) but if not it doesn't matter. He's already done things that we all wish we could do now (which is part reason why all of us are here and on other Hip Hop sites in tha 1st place). I think tha homie is great for an MC, but he has to keep getting better at it and keep on coming with tighter and tighter shit if he's gonna do somethin', otherwise he'll end up like how Nipsey Hu$$le is lookin at this moment (not that I'm countin Nip out right now or anything).
If u wanna keep tha debate going then let's keep it movin' but if ur just gonna call Drake wack and say all of that other cliche' bullshit then I'm wasting my time. There's no way in hell Drake is wack, even his soft-wack shit isn't all that terrible. And for the record, Drake's music is "grown man music" and if u wanna fade that then you're fading yourself. When I'm with tha bitches best believe I'm putting on some Drake, I don't think I could do that with Kendrick's music (and right now my friend my life is all about money, money, money, women, hoes, and weed).
So like i said, if u wanna talk skills then Drake has Kendrick beat in:
1 - Popularity
2 - Lyrical ability (even tho both can blow alotta these niggaz outta tha water)
3 - Impact on tha game
4 - Longevity (tho I could see Kendrick definitely being around for a minute)
5 - Diversity
6 - shit niggaz are gonna do after they Rap in their youth
I think some of y'all got tha impression that I'm trying to fade Kendrick and that's definitely not tha motivation here. I like Kendrick but let's keep shit 100... In real life Drake says shit that touches your soul (no homo), Kendrick just says shit that's hot. The way Drake does it separates him from any other rapper who Raps about real life.
*and Spamillitary, please don't ever use tha word "hence" like that again, u sound like u half a stick stuck up your ass*
http://www.youtube.com//v/YJSoaNu0baA
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Dude first I personally don't come here because I wanna be a rapper or someshit like that. I just like dope music. Not all music is dope, and neither is all rap dope because I like some of it. I discriminate. I listen to what I like and especially rappers who can make a dope album, not just features or a radio song.
Second. Drake don't make grown man music of any kind. He's a youngster. He's a radio dude and props to him for making top of your list on popularity. Truthfully. But that's it. I could ask all my friends who Drake is, and probably at least half would know the dude. Probably most of the girls. So he's a hit. Name, exposure, radio play, sales the lot. I'm not discounting that at all. In any way shape or form.
Now Kendrick doesn't make grown man shit either. But! He makes lyrics with intelligence. He puts knowledge, word play, sociology, black politics and personal feelings, and his own style into his raps. Not industry style. Not What he needs to do to make Drake $$$. Just a young dude pushing to make a name in Hiphop. However if I ask my friends if they heard of Kendrick - probably 1 or 2 tops *may* heave. And I'd be stunned if it's any more than that. I hope he carries on his path and drops a dope album (which I'll support).
So on your list:
1 - Popularity
2 - Lyrical ability (even tho both can blow alotta these niggaz outta tha water)
3 - Impact on tha game
4 - Longevity (tho I could see Kendrick definitely being around for a minute)
5 - Diversity
6 - shit niggaz are gonna do after they Rap in their youth
1. Yes. Without doubt in the mainstream.
2 No.
3. on 'the game' as a whole, you can't call it. so 50/50 for what I've been talking bout above.
4 I think Drake will come and go like 99% of idustry Cats. I imagine I'll be listening for Kendrick for future years beyond Drake.
5. Kendrick wins 100%
6 Well that's interesting. Drake will prolly go into movies, get a video game...so who knows!
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^Clown. I listen to more Drake then you do, hence why I know there are no comparisons between the two. Hence, why I asked to hear these similarities. Hence, why you didn't come up with a single one. Because there aren't any.
You're talking apples & oranges here. They're both fruit (rappers) that's about it.
lol. That pretty much sums it up
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Radiotube, I did not once knock Drake in this thread. Although I'd rather listen to Kendrick, all I was saying is that there aren't any similarities between the two.