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Title: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on March 09, 2011, 02:57:09 AM
unless it's solving biomedical needs (our bodies and the environment, sorry if i used the wrong word) and most definitely transportation.  we're relying way too much and getting a little too much with all of this technology (most especially our phones, that's the worst).  


remember; everytime u say Yes to new technology somebody is losing a job and somebody somewhere else is losing the prospect of a job (whether it's a 9 year old kid who just wants to work at a car factory or a 56 year old man or woman who's looking for another job somewhere in tha tech field that just lost theirs).  just remember that.
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: Russell Bell on March 09, 2011, 03:16:45 AM
phone commercials make me sick.  condescending uppity sounding dipshits acting like if i dont have their new touchscreen plastic POS then my life will implode
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on March 09, 2011, 04:07:12 AM
I just heard tha other day on tha news that people can hack into your car's computer system and drive the shit (toyota must've been doing some experimenting lol).  The 1st thing that pops into my mind is, why would i even need all of that technology in my car in tha 1st place, i can see a GPS but that's a given.  I mean aren't u supposed to be keeping your eyes on the road anyway, why would i need 2 fuck with all of these buttons. 


All technological advances aren't great for society, it brings me back to what we were talking about in the other thread about the Government telling us all of this shit we need and dont need and people being too dumb and too emotional to really process it. 
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: Matty on March 09, 2011, 04:15:02 AM
im chillin
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on March 09, 2011, 04:24:25 AM
im chillin


becuz your a web forum moderator.  what about the people who don't wanna sit in a chair all day?  what about the people who aren't all geeked up on web technology like that.  i knew u'd come in here at some point and say something like that.  there's more to life than computers (alot more). 


how much do u get paid for what u do anyways, i've always been curious about how much people like u make. 
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: Matty on March 09, 2011, 04:53:13 AM
im chillin


becuz your a web forum moderator.  what about the people who don't wanna sit in a chair all day?  what about the people who aren't all geeked up on web technology like that.  i knew u'd come in here at some point and say something like that.  there's more to life than computers (alot more).  


how much do u get paid for what u do anyways, i've always been curious about how much people like u make.  

lol, the comment was only in reference to the title tube! i'm not really at liberty to disclose this info but some say that dubcc pays a handsome salary for moderating (6 figures) :laugh:
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: Matty on March 09, 2011, 04:58:59 AM
oh i actually read your post now, i partly agree with the stuff about people being wrapped up in technology - social networking and their phones and what have you. its a tool/wealth multiplier and should be viewed like that. the govenment certainly use it effectively to spread propaganda and keep people distracted. the twitter and txting generation will end up learning the hard way. depends if the shady ones can keep a lid on genuine open information or not. could be the game changer.
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on March 09, 2011, 02:21:26 PM
im chillin


becuz your a web forum moderator.  what about the people who don't wanna sit in a chair all day?  what about the people who aren't all geeked up on web technology like that.  i knew u'd come in here at some point and say something like that.  there's more to life than computers (alot more).  


how much do u get paid for what u do anyways, i've always been curious about how much people like u make.  

lol, the comment was only in reference to the title tube! i'm not really at liberty to disclose this info but some say that dubcc pays a handsome salary for moderating (6 figures) :laugh:

he does it for free. At least I would hope so. Its essentially doing nothing.
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: LooN3y on March 09, 2011, 02:49:07 PM
ur a fucking moron, dont advance in technology? y not say the same for dont advance in ur education. we have minds to improve upgrade our standard of living, so your saying we should do nothing with our minds?

the whole concept of your argument has no grounds, might as well have no technological advances at all and go back to the hunter and gathering days where we truly dont hurt the enviroment.


we advance in techonlogy because thats who we are, as humans (well mayb not you cuz your a moron) we improve.


you are a moron, stop complaining bout bull shit saying "there too much technology" or what not thats the same shit generations before has said that had yet to adapt. all this "advancing" in technology also helps keep jobs.


your idiocy proceeds me, THROUGHOUT time industries disappear because new inventions and advancement in technology, shits been relevant since the beginning of civilized nations.

look here dumbfuck, take the vinyl industry for example, their gone their done and it got replaced by the CD's and the cd industry while destroying the vinyl and cassette industry makes more jobs and its reasonable. and this is an example for you to understand theres been millions of industries before in history that got destroyed because it was obsolete.


so you dumb nigga, you tryna carry a vinyl disk everywhere u go? no right? u cant listen to it on the go, while ur jogging, traveling, etc etc, its been going on throughout history, it seems to me your on that "i dont need technology, so im cool" tip. just shut the fuck up


just die, u'd do this world a good favor, you fucking moron. damn your such an idiot it pisses me off to have lil pathetic useless shits like you in the world

Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on March 09, 2011, 03:12:22 PM
Dude u need a life
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: LooN3y on March 09, 2011, 04:43:29 PM
Dude u need a life


lol  i barely come by here any more? any "normal" person realizes this concept of human advancement, your just a moron.


foo, your the one letting the whole forum know that your going to court, seems like you dont have life or friends for that matter.



edit: lol, averaging 4 posts a day? nigga u need a life
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on March 09, 2011, 05:46:48 PM
Super.  So when do u want u medal 4 how much shit u can talk.  Thats y that nigga Petey be roastin that azz, ur an outhouse to a spacestation
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on March 09, 2011, 05:48:47 PM
Super.  So when do u want u medal 4 how much shit u can talk.  Thats y that nigga Petey be roastin that azz, ur an outhouse to a spacestation

gettim
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: QuietTruth on March 09, 2011, 06:48:06 PM
remember; everytime u say Yes to new technology somebody is losing a job and somebody somewhere else is losing the prospect of a job (whether it's a 9 year old kid who just wants to work at a car factory or a 56 year old man or woman who's looking for another job somewhere in tha tech field that just lost theirs).  just remember that.

I agree, especially wit this.
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: LooN3y on March 09, 2011, 06:56:08 PM
Super.  So when do u want u medal 4 how much shit u can talk.  Thats y that nigga Petey be roastin that azz, ur an outhouse to a spacestation

peteys a nigga thats infactuated with black influence, he thinks that everything a black man does has swagger and that everyone else of another color tries to imitate them.


hes just mad ive said that alot of blacks that ive met were products of the media, they act talk and act hard because they see tv, but when its time to double up they run or they try to hop your ass.

just cuz your black doesnt mean your hard bro, aint nobody scared of a nigga, only a nigga with a gun, but that goes for any man of any color.
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on March 09, 2011, 07:01:11 PM
unless it's solving biomedical needs (our bodies and the environment, sorry if i used the wrong word) and most definitely transportation.  we're relying way too much and getting a little too much with all of this technology (most especially our phones, that's the worst).  


remember; everytime u say Yes to new technology somebody is losing a job and somebody somewhere else is losing the prospect of a job (whether it's a 9 year old kid who just wants to work at a car factory or a 56 year old man or woman who's looking for another job somewhere in tha tech field that just lost theirs).  just remember that.

WHAT?  Are you serious?  Some health care workers may of lost their jobs when the Polio vaccine came out but I still think the world is better off.  Maybe under your philosophy we should all go back to being hunters and gatherers, then we would all have jobs right?  What your missing is that it's not about jobs, it's about STANDARD OF LIVING...

Also, advances in technology don't cause jobs to be lost they cause jobs to be gained, it's just that they are lost in some sector of the economy, yet the jobs are gained in another sector of the economy that you fail to see.  

For example, when the internet boom hit in the last couple decades, the person who's running a local flea market could say "See, those damn technological advances caused me to lose my job."   Yet, what is unseen by him and others who don't understand basic economics, is that as many jobs as were lost in buying and selling in flea markets, more were gained in BUYING AND SELLING ON EBAY.  And that my friend, is an INCREASE IN STANDARD OF LIVING.  Cause no longer does a person have to travel around the whole city visiting distributors and stand in a store all day, he can buy and sell from the comfort of his own living room through EBAY on the internet.   This allows him to sell the products at lower prices because he doesn't have to do the legwork, and thus it increases the buying power of everyone and in turn leads to yet another INCREASE IN THE STANDARD OF LIVING.
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: LooN3y on March 09, 2011, 07:05:41 PM
unless it's solving biomedical needs (our bodies and the environment, sorry if i used the wrong word) and most definitely transportation.  we're relying way too much and getting a little too much with all of this technology (most especially our phones, that's the worst).  


remember; everytime u say Yes to new technology somebody is losing a job and somebody somewhere else is losing the prospect of a job (whether it's a 9 year old kid who just wants to work at a car factory or a 56 year old man or woman who's looking for another job somewhere in tha tech field that just lost theirs).  just remember that.

WHAT?  Are you serious?  Some health care workers may of lost their jobs when the Polio vaccine came out but I still think the world is better off.  Maybe under your philosophy we should all go back to being hunters and gatherers, then we would all have jobs right?  What your missing is that it's not about jobs, it's about STANDARD OF LIVING...

Also, advances in technology don't cause jobs to be lost they cause jobs to be gained, it's just that they are lost in some sector of the economy, yet the jobs are gained in another sector of the economy that you fail to see.  

For example, when the internet boom hit in the last couple decades, the person who's running a local flea market could say "See, those damn technological advances caused me to lose my job."   Yet, what is unseen by him and others who don't understand basic economics, is that as many jobs as were lost in buying and selling in flea markets, more were gained in BUYING AND SELLING ON EBAY.  And that my friend, is an INCREASE IN STANDARD OF LIVING.  Cause no longer does a person have to travel around the whole city visiting distributors and stand in a store all day, he can buy and sell from the comfort of his own living room through EBAY on the internet.   This allows him to sell the products at lower prices because he doesn't have to do the legwork, and thus it increases the buying power of everyone and in turn leads to yet another INCREASE IN THE STANDARD OF LIVING.



basically what i said, but i had to tone it down for a person with his handicap, and that moron still didnt get it.
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: Russell Bell on March 10, 2011, 03:22:37 PM
unless it's solving biomedical needs (our bodies and the environment, sorry if i used the wrong word) and most definitely transportation.  we're relying way too much and getting a little too much with all of this technology (most especially our phones, that's the worst). 


remember; everytime u say Yes to new technology somebody is losing a job and somebody somewhere else is losing the prospect of a job (whether it's a 9 year old kid who just wants to work at a car factory or a 56 year old man or woman who's looking for another job somewhere in tha tech field that just lost theirs).  just remember that.

WHAT?  Are you serious?  Some health care workers may of lost their jobs when the Polio vaccine came out but I still think the world is better off.  Maybe under your philosophy we should all go back to being hunters and gatherers, then we would all have jobs right?  What your missing is that it's not about jobs, it's about STANDARD OF LIVING...

Also, advances in technology don't cause jobs to be lost they cause jobs to be gained, it's just that they are lost in some sector of the economy, yet the jobs are gained in another sector of the economy that you fail to see.   

For example, when the internet boom hit in the last couple decades, the person who's running a local flea market could say "See, those damn technological advances caused me to lose my job."   Yet, what is unseen by him and others who don't understand basic economics, is that as many jobs as were lost in buying and selling in flea markets, more were gained in BUYING AND SELLING ON EBAY.  And that my friend, is an INCREASE IN STANDARD OF LIVING.  Cause no longer does a person have to travel around the whole city visiting distributors and stand in a store all day, he can buy and sell from the comfort of his own living room through EBAY on the internet.   This allows him to sell the products at lower prices because he doesn't have to do the legwork, and thus it increases the buying power of everyone and in turn leads to yet another INCREASE IN THE STANDARD OF LIVING.



basically what i said, but i had to tone it down for a person with his handicap, and that moron still didnt get it.

I think our society has gone overboard with technology in some areas.  For example, a car that parks itself?  Really?  If you cant park then you shouldnt pass your license test.  And before you say "oh, well its just convenience", bullshit.  As technology is viewed as more and more important and we use it in unnecessary ways, skills we need will be erased therefore dumbing people down (reading/writing skills come to mind).  Or the Benz commercial which has people talking about how their car steered itself because they weren't paying attn or were asleep at the wheel, ridiculous.  People like this should be weeded out not kept alive longer.

But as for the jobs deal, some industries it does kill or hurt.  Like season 2 of the wire where Frank is sitting at the meeting where the big wigs are talking about technology that will cut down on dock workers to be replaced by machines and how thats supposed to be "good" and hes sitting there knowing his industry is shrinking.  Its give and take, really.  People gotta adapt or else. 

Something else that bothers me about technology is that it is slowly replacing real human interaction and contact, which is changing our society into a bunch of self serving shallow folks.   
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on March 10, 2011, 04:38:25 PM

I think our society has gone overboard with technology in some areas.  For example, a car that parks itself?  Really?  If you cant park then you shouldnt pass your license test.  And before you say "oh, well its just convenience", bullshit.  As technology is viewed as more and more important and we use it in unnecessary ways, skills we need will be erased therefore dumbing people down (reading/writing skills come to mind).  Or the Benz commercial which has people talking about how their car steered itself because they weren't paying attn or were asleep at the wheel, ridiculous.  People like this should be weeded out not kept alive longer.


If the product is as bad as you say it is, then nobody will buy it and it will disappear anyway.  New products only come on the market and thrive when there is a demand for such products.  So I don't see where the problem is.  Nobody's forcing you to buy it, it was made with somebody else in mind.  


But as for the jobs deal, some industries it does kill or hurt.  Like season 2 of the wire where Frank is sitting at the meeting where the big wigs are talking about technology that will cut down on dock workers to be replaced by machines and how thats supposed to be "good" and hes sitting there knowing his industry is shrinking.  Its give and take, really.


That's because your only focused on one segment of the marketplace and your not allowing yourself to see the big picture.  The first thing to keep in mind is that it's not about jobs, it's about standard of living.  You could have full employment picking cotton all day if you wanted to.  There is never a shortage of jobs.  It's only that a job isn't paying you as much as you would like so you wouldn't accept it.  I mean, if anybody out there really needs a job they can come wash my dishes for me for 10 cents a day.  But standard of living has increased greatly due to technology so you wouldn't accept such a job as cleaning my dishes for 10 cents a day.  But back in the day people used to jump at the chance to work their asses off for shit jobs that only paid a few bucks a day.

But that being said, in the end, still more jobs can be created.  Because the more we can produce as a society, the more profit companies make, the wealthier society becomes, the more money gets invested into created new jobs and expanding businesses and commerce.  So new jobs will be created, jobs that we never thought of before.


Something else that bothers me about technology is that it is slowly replacing real human interaction and contact, which is changing our society into a bunch of self serving shallow folks.  

Again, you are only focusing on one aspect and neglecting the big picture.  A persons need for human interaction may not be met because instead of going to the bar on a particular night, let's say they are involved with social networking.  Yet through that networking they meet people they never knew existed, people who more uniquely fit in with their refined tastes and bring meaning to their life in a way the people at the bar never could.
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on March 10, 2011, 10:52:48 PM
^^^ u know what i hate the most about technology (at this particular SECOND) is that when it comes to blogs people always try 2 tear down everything u say.  i mean come on "infinite", can u not GRASP tha concept of computers taking over and replacing people and their jobs or were u just looking 2 be an 'ass'. 


and the thing that got me 2 say this was when u said "the demand is there", well who's demanding it muthafucka?  i mean i didn't demand an I-Pad, I didn't demand that my car come with a memory chip that stores songs in the hard drive, a hard drive that shouldn't even be there in the 1st place smh.  Why do i need an I-Pad when I have a laptop with a wireless internet, it just doesn't make any sense along with alot of other new technology that we're distributing. 


face it my dude, you're a tech-geek and that's the only reason why you're saying this, you and a couple other people.  most people in the REAL WORLD don't care about all of tha high tech features we're getting with alotta this stuff, and neither do tha kids so don't go using that bullshit excuse. 


i mean i don't wanna sound like Grandpa but honestly there's just no need 4 alotta tha stuff we're getting and it's really killing our job market.  and then u wanna turn around and blame the wrong thing/people 4 tha economy.  WE DO NOT NEED THIS STUFF... necessity or not we most likely can IMPROVISE (did u forget what that word meant) and go about whatever another way. 
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: virtuoso on March 24, 2011, 03:36:24 PM

Some people have become obsessed with expansion of technology, some of it is obviously for the betterment, or at least can be used for the betterment of us whether it's through information, whether it's through medical break throughs, there is no doubt that there is an upside. However we don't live in a world which is black and white and where progress simply comes about to improve our living conditions. We live in a world which is becoming increasingly centralised and therefore when I hear talk about "the market" well...this market is becoming increasingly more concentrated with only a few vested interests.

The object and goal of a business is it's bottom line, HR stands for human resource, we are just that a mechanism for which the output occurs. When suitable developments have been made that allow for a shrinkage of the work force and in turn replaced by mechanical, or robots. When those robots are far cheaper to run and more efficient then it becomes extremely problematic because it only takes one major business to break away and make robots an integral part of the work force before others are forced to do so.

Now so called libertarians may rejoice at this idea because it reduces wastage, optimises ouput etc but it's EXTREMELY disengenuous to say where jobs are lost in sector they will be created in another. The hell they will, enthusiasts on this subject will admit to the fact that of course there will be a need for humans in the development stages, in the logistical stages, in the selling, in the maintenance, and this is where the dishonesty really sets in. The jobs will be offshored to cheaper nations. Therefore, yes, technology does threaten the livelihoods of tens of millions both financially and threatens to further empower and centralise control.

Wars fought increasingly without people
Construction without people
Trains, planes without people
Improved automated cash points without people
Warehouses run largely without people

This is the way technology is going, if you think it's a good thing that unemployment will sky rocket well fine.

If you are going to shoot someone down, please keep the integrity of your argument intact.
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: Bananas on March 26, 2011, 04:32:41 PM
remember; everytime u say Yes to new technology somebody is losing a job and somebody somewhere else is losing the prospect of a job

Actually I think the truth lies with exact opposite of that statement. Do you need me to explain it for you?
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on March 26, 2011, 04:34:08 PM
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there's more to life than computers (alot more)

pussy and beer :D
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on March 26, 2011, 09:46:25 PM
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there's more to life than computers (alot more)

pussy and beer :D

Hence why advancing technology is good. We should keep going forward until we have female androids who have been programmed to serve us beer and fuck our brains out.
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on March 27, 2011, 11:19:34 PM
^^^ that don't exist in this galaxy.


real life... stop talking and listen 4 a second
Title: Re: We really do need 2 chill on all of this "advanced/advancing technology"
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on March 27, 2011, 11:53:48 PM
^^^ that don't exist in this galaxy.


real life... stop talking and listen 4 a second

I guarantee you that shit will one day be a reality as long as technology is allowed to grow