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Title: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: Fraxxx on March 18, 2011, 05:32:44 AM
Naw, not really... ;D

But another point for splitting the westcoast section up into classic/Golden Era and New West. ;)
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: MistaNova on March 18, 2011, 05:39:23 AM
As if there weren't enough threads for 90's rappers...

But another point for splitting the westcoast section up into classic/Golden Era and New West. ;)

I support the splitting-into-two idea but there's no doubt the New West section will be filled with threads about how OG's were better in their prime or how the new guys are just rip-offs of those that came before them. With the non-Cali West Coast acts pushed to the side (at most).
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on March 18, 2011, 05:48:07 AM
I agree. The nigga is overrated. Ain't dropped a hot album since his debut, according to cham
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: Gamestarr on March 18, 2011, 05:58:24 AM
NO! Splitting the forum in to 2 sections like that will kill the forum.


DO NOT DO IT!
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: Fraxxx on March 18, 2011, 09:57:14 AM
NO! Splitting the forum in to 2 sections like that will kill the forum.


DO NOT DO IT!

Why would it kill the forum?
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: Gamestarr on March 18, 2011, 10:45:16 AM
NO! Splitting the forum in to 2 sections like that will kill the forum.


DO NOT DO IT!

Why would it kill the forum?

no activity and the way things are right now are just fine.
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: Chamillitary Click on March 18, 2011, 11:11:04 AM
Not even close.

Kurupt is hands down the better rapper though.
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on March 18, 2011, 11:15:29 AM
Why divide West Coast rap even further? It's bad enough we got this whole new west vs. old west bull shit to begin with.
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: WCoastTillIDie on March 18, 2011, 11:48:52 AM
Snoop's Discography>>> Kurupt's. 
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on March 18, 2011, 11:52:38 AM
Kurupts a better rapper, but Snoops career superior by a million miles
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: HighEyeCue on March 18, 2011, 12:17:12 PM
Not even close.

Kurupt is hands down the better rapper though.
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: D-Nice on March 18, 2011, 12:21:24 PM
I'm not sure even as a better rapper Kurupt just runs away with that though. I mean Death Row era of course, even Kurupt was outshining Snoop on his own album. But solo albums, let's not get it twisted, even post Doggystyle there are many examples of Snoop rapping his ass off. Both fell off a bit granted, but I dont think it is a clear runaway that Kurupt is a better rapper.
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: HighEyeCue on March 18, 2011, 12:27:09 PM
I'm not sure even as a better rapper Kurupt just runs away with that though. I mean Death Row era of course, even Kurupt was outshining Snoop on his own album. But solo albums, let's not get it twisted, even post Doggystyle there are many examples of Snoop rapping his ass off. Both fell off a bit granted, but I dont think it is a clear runaway that Kurupt is a better rapper.

yeah as a lyricist Kurupt is miles ahead but in all the other aspects of rapping flow, delivery, etc Snoop is right up with him

Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: D-Nice on March 18, 2011, 12:40:45 PM
I'm not sure even as a better rapper Kurupt just runs away with that though. I mean Death Row era of course, even Kurupt was outshining Snoop on his own album. But solo albums, let's not get it twisted, even post Doggystyle there are many examples of Snoop rapping his ass off. Both fell off a bit granted, but I dont think it is a clear runaway that Kurupt is a better rapper.

yeah as a lyricist Kurupt is miles ahead but in all the other aspects of rapping flow, delivery, etc Snoop is right up with him



Even as a lyricist HEC it is not that runaway for Kurupt either. I mean the amount of lyrical gems from Kurupt has reduced quite a bit post DR. Snoop got lyrics, listen to a song like Think About It.
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on March 18, 2011, 12:44:20 PM
I'm not sure even as a better rapper Kurupt just runs away with that though. I mean Death Row era of course, even Kurupt was outshining Snoop on his own album. But solo albums, let's not get it twisted, even post Doggystyle there are many examples of Snoop rapping his ass off. Both fell off a bit granted, but I dont think it is a clear runaway that Kurupt is a better rapper.

Snoop only rapped his ass of when other ppl wrote the lines for him lol
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: D-Nice on March 18, 2011, 12:49:49 PM
I'm not sure even as a better rapper Kurupt just runs away with that though. I mean Death Row era of course, even Kurupt was outshining Snoop on his own album. But solo albums, let's not get it twisted, even post Doggystyle there are many examples of Snoop rapping his ass off. Both fell off a bit granted, but I dont think it is a clear runaway that Kurupt is a better rapper.

Snoop only rapped his ass of when other ppl wrote the lines for him lol

True lol. I would like to see how many of my favorite Snoop lines are DOC assisted
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: HighEyeCue on March 18, 2011, 12:51:59 PM
I'm not sure even as a better rapper Kurupt just runs away with that though. I mean Death Row era of course, even Kurupt was outshining Snoop on his own album. But solo albums, let's not get it twisted, even post Doggystyle there are many examples of Snoop rapping his ass off. Both fell off a bit granted, but I dont think it is a clear runaway that Kurupt is a better rapper.

yeah as a lyricist Kurupt is miles ahead but in all the other aspects of rapping flow, delivery, etc Snoop is right up with him



Even as a lyricist HEC it is not that runaway for Kurupt either. I mean the amount of lyrical gems from Kurupt has reduced quite a bit post DR. Snoop got lyrics, listen to a song like Think About It.

true but I think Kurupt has always written his own lyrics, the only time was his 2nd stint at Death Row where Crooked was rumored to have written for him but I question that because the lyrics were subpar

I think lyricially Doggfather is Snoops best album but alot of it was ghost written. Think About it as well.
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: D-Nice on March 18, 2011, 01:08:50 PM
I'm not sure even as a better rapper Kurupt just runs away with that though. I mean Death Row era of course, even Kurupt was outshining Snoop on his own album. But solo albums, let's not get it twisted, even post Doggystyle there are many examples of Snoop rapping his ass off. Both fell off a bit granted, but I dont think it is a clear runaway that Kurupt is a better rapper.

yeah as a lyricist Kurupt is miles ahead but in all the other aspects of rapping flow, delivery, etc Snoop is right up with him



Even as a lyricist HEC it is not that runaway for Kurupt either. I mean the amount of lyrical gems from Kurupt has reduced quite a bit post DR. Snoop got lyrics, listen to a song like Think About It.

true but I think Kurupt has always written his own lyrics, the only time was his 2nd stint at Death Row where Crooked was rumored to have written for him but I question that because the lyrics were subpar

I think lyricially Doggfather is Snoops best album but alot of it was ghost written. Think About it as well.

Yeah good point. I know Snoop CAN and does write his own stuff at times. I will say this, Streetlights>MIW lol
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on March 18, 2011, 01:15:33 PM
nah, hold up now,
this is a misconception.
Snoop always wrote his own shit, till "ego trippin" (n he did that as a favour to artists on his camp, so they could cake up wit royalties)

he used to even write rhymes for other artists on Death Row
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: HighEyeCue on March 19, 2011, 01:42:14 PM
nah, hold up now,
this is a misconception.
Snoop always wrote his own shit, till "ego trippin" (n he did that as a favour to artists on his camp, so they could cake up wit royalties)

he used to even write rhymes for other artists on Death Row

Bad Azz and Tray Dee wrote alot of Tha Doggfather
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on March 19, 2011, 01:52:34 PM
nah, hold up now,
this is a misconception.
Snoop always wrote his own shit, till "ego trippin" (n he did that as a favour to artists on his camp, so they could cake up wit royalties)

he used to even write rhymes for other artists on Death Row

Bad Azz and Tray Dee wrote alot of Tha Doggfather

and On Top Dogg
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: Smackdog on March 19, 2011, 01:54:12 PM
NO! Splitting the forum in to 2 sections like that will kill the forum.


DO NOT DO IT!


the forum is almost dead as it is....
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on March 19, 2011, 02:00:51 PM
what makes u think that Tray Deee and Bad Azz wrote those 2 albums for Snoop?
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: Paul on March 19, 2011, 02:30:30 PM
what makes u think that Tray Deee and Bad Azz wrote those 2 albums for Snoop?

The credits
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on March 19, 2011, 02:35:10 PM
what makes u think that Tray Deee and Bad Azz wrote those 2 albums for Snoop?

The credits

LOL exactly
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on March 19, 2011, 02:38:09 PM
do u guys have Indonesian versions of those albums, or somethin?   ???
Jamar Stamps and Tracey Davis are only credited for their own verses.
Snoop is credited as a writer for all of his songs on those 2 albums (except for "Groupie", "Downtown Assassins")

Tray Dee is a gangster. Gangsters dont ghostwrite.
Bad Azz helped Snoop wit hooks or input on lyrics
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: HighEyeCue on March 19, 2011, 02:44:01 PM
Bad Azz also wrote the track "2001" with Threat
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on March 19, 2011, 02:47:38 PM
do u guys have Indonesian versions of those albums, or somethin?   ???
Jamar Stamps and Tracey Davis are only credited for their own verses.
Snoop is credited as a writer for all of his songs on those 2 albums (except for "Groupie", "Downtown Assassins")

Tray Dee is a gangster. Gangsters dont ghostwrite.
Bad Azz helped Snoop wit hooks or input on lyrics

are you serious?
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on March 19, 2011, 02:50:45 PM
wit what?
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on March 19, 2011, 02:53:13 PM
wit what?

I think its been confirmed that They wrote lots of ish on both album
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on March 19, 2011, 02:55:33 PM
i dont think so. more like common misconception
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on March 19, 2011, 03:05:01 PM
i dont think so. more like common misconception

for example, Snoop & Dre didnt write shit on Just Dippin
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on March 19, 2011, 03:07:50 PM
Snoop is credited as a writer on "Just Dippin".
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: Dre-Day on March 20, 2011, 01:30:06 AM
i dont think so. more like common misconception
if rappers use ghostwriters, you're not supposed to know...
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: HighEyeCue on March 20, 2011, 07:28:25 AM
i dont think so. more like common misconception
if rappers use ghostwriters, you're not supposed to know...

exactly, the examples given were common knowledge. The ghostwritten tracks would not have the original writers listed in the credits.
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on March 20, 2011, 07:40:46 AM
no, dude
if bad azz and tray deee wrote all those songs for Snoop, they woulve been credited.
Snoop was credited.
they were credited on the songs, when they had added input ("just dippin" ) or when they did write all the lyrics ("downtwon assassins").
Tray Dee and bad azz didnt ghostwrite "doggfather" or "top dogg" for Snoop.
i dont know where u got that info from..
bad azz confirmed he wrote some songs with Snoop, never mentioned he wrote any albums
Title: Re: Kurupt's career shits on Snoops!
Post by: bouli77 on March 20, 2011, 12:37:46 PM
Tray deee and Bad Azz never wrote entire albums for Snoop, but I believe they did write at least partially some of his solo songs. Bad Azz wrote songs for Warren G though, that's for sure, G dub said it in interviews. Tray Deee co-wrote Doin Too Much on Top Dogg. Also if you listen to demos, og versions and unreleased songs from the Death Row era, you'll hear a lot of lines that were Tray Deee's and that Snoop later used (i cant remember what now, i have to re listen to songs)

You're wrong about Tray Deee though, Tray Deee may be a gangster but he's also a seasoned writer and a respected lyricist. He's praised for his well constructed verses and rhyme schemes, I said it in other topics but even a lyrical dudes like Crooked I explicitly said that he used to carefully study Tray Deee's verses and that it helped him with his craft. So it's not preposterous to think that he might have written for other ppl, including Snoop.