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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: illuminutty on March 24, 2011, 08:44:33 AM
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Don't know why everybody hates on DETOX an Album NOBODY heard yet.....
Everybody is suprised that Dre didn't produce any of tha leaked Tracks...WooooooHHHH..He said a million Times before that he wanted to do something different.I'm 34 yrs. old now and i started with Eazy Duz it wayback.Ya'll some ungratefull Assholes.This Man gave ya over 20 Years of Bangers and ya'll hate on a few Leaks???Dre doesn't need to prove anything to some Internet Stans.Where is yo Track record?Most of these Haters on this Board wasn't even Born when Niggaz4life dropped so STFU.
Wait for the Albu & then judge..before that..STFU....
Actually i like some of tha leaked stuff & you know why?It's new..you wanna hear G Funk?Tha 2001 Sound....Then go back & listen to it.Times Change Musi c Changes and even People.Don't Know where that EURO Dance hate comes from but we was dealing with them sound from 91-99 than that shit died.In Europe we laugh our Asses off @ them Eurodance Samples & Sounds we already heard 15 yrs. ago & to America jumped on it & embraced it.Finally Americans caught up with shit Europeans didn't even like :-D
Now let the Hate beginn......... 8)
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because every joint leaked has been crooked I status (full garbage with no lid on it on a hot summer day status)
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but dre's shit sounds wack by today's standards. I wanna hear new music too. But I wanna hear dope new music.
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and since when is this shit new? the nigga comes out with played out alex da kid production and Em screaming on a track, shit we heard all last year and expects ppl to love it. Fuck outta here.
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Good post thread starter. I agree for the most part. And yea, that techno shit was/is popular in Europe first and for some reason it finally started to pollute the air overseas. Not a huge fan but I like how Dre is evolving and changing with the times...
You want Still D.R.E. or The Watcher? Get in a time machine and go back a decade; shits not happening anymore I think a lot of people need to swallow that. A lot of player-haters in this forum... who got their PHD and talk a lot shit like they know it all. I got a degree but still, you can't hate him for trying to keep it fresh. I like some of the stuff and try hard not to compare it to music that came out over a decade ago.
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Don't know why everybody hates on DETOX an Album NOBODY heard yet.....
Everybody is suprised that Dre didn't produce any of tha leaked Tracks...WooooooHHHH..He said a million Times before that he wanted to do something different.I'm 34 yrs. old now and i started with Eazy Duz it wayback.Ya'll some ungratefull Assholes.This Man gave ya over 20 Years of Bangers and ya'll hate on a few Leaks???Dre doesn't need to prove anything to some Internet Stans.Where is yo Track record?Most of these Haters on this Board wasn't even Born when Niggaz4life dropped so STFU.
Wait for the Albu & then judge..before that..STFU....
Actually i like some of tha leaked stuff & you know why?It's new..you wanna hear G Funk?Tha 2001 Sound....Then go back & listen to it.Times Change Musi c Changes and even People.Don't Know where that EURO Dance hate comes from but we was dealing with them sound from 91-99 than that shit died.In Europe we laugh our Asses off @ them Eurodance Samples & Sounds we already heard 15 yrs. ago & to America jumped on it & embraced it.Finally Americans caught up with shit Europeans didn't even like :-D
Now let the Hate beginn......... 8)
everything i've heard is bland, wack.. and i'm a year older than you...
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and since when is this shit new? the nigga comes out with played out alex da kid production and Em screaming on a track, shit we heard all last year and expects ppl to love it. Fuck outta here.
Some of the other leaks have a new sound ie. Mr. Prescription and that Bishop reference track and one other (a short 2 minute one).
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People on this forum always will hate on Detox...its like a half-time job for some people...even if it would be the hottest shit ever they would vry about something...like that Nate Dogg guy on Kush..and if it would be Nate Dogg the song would be a classic huh? ::)
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Wait for the Albu & then judge..before that..STFU....
Please. ::) We've been waiting nine years now. There is no album.
How long do we have to wait according to you before we're allowed to talk about Detox? 15 years? 20 years? Let the mods know so they can lock all Detox threads until then.
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Dre's new Music is not weak INAD was no.1 on ITunes and No.4 in US Charts ,Kush was No.1 Hip Hop Charts outside US .wake up we have 2011 .The Album is not only for the Fans ,for everybody .I'm 32 Years old i listen the old Chronic in 92 ,i don't want the old Sound ,today People outside this Board don't need that old Gangsta sound from the 90's
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Dre's new Music is not weak INAD was no.1 on ITunes and No.4 in US Charts ,Kush was No.1 Hip Hop Charts outside US .wake up we have 2011 .The Album is not only for the Fans ,for everybody .I'm 32 Years old i listen the old Chronic in 92 ,i don't want the old Sound ,today People outside this Board don't need that old Gangsta sound from the 90's
you hear Under Pressure? that shit raped a listeners ears, it has nothing to do with g funk gantsa music
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Dre's new Music is not weak INAD was no.1 on ITunes and No.4 in US Charts ,Kush was No.1 Hip Hop Charts outside US .wake up we have 2011 .The Album is not only for the Fans ,for everybody .I'm 32 Years old i listen the old Chronic in 92 ,i don't want the old Sound ,today People outside this Board don't need that old Gangsta sound from the 90's
where is the new sound? INAD is Alex da kid's sound and Em's sound, not Dre's.
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Don't know why everybody hates on DETOX an Album NOBODY heard yet.....
Everybody is suprised that Dre didn't produce any of tha leaked Tracks...WooooooHHHH..He said a million Times before that he wanted to do something different.I'm 34 yrs. old now and i started with Eazy Duz it wayback.Ya'll some ungratefull Assholes.This Man gave ya over 20 Years of Bangers and ya'll hate on a few Leaks???Dre doesn't need to prove anything to some Internet Stans.Where is yo Track record?Most of these Haters on this Board wasn't even Born when Niggaz4life dropped so STFU.
Wait for the Albu & then judge..before that..STFU....
Actually i like some of tha leaked stuff & you know why?It's new..you wanna hear G Funk?Tha 2001 Sound....Then go back & listen to it.Times Change Musi c Changes and even People.Don't Know where that EURO Dance hate comes from but we was dealing with them sound from 91-99 than that shit died.In Europe we laugh our Asses off @ them Eurodance Samples & Sounds we already heard 15 yrs. ago & to America jumped on it & embraced it.Finally Americans caught up with shit Europeans didn't even like :-D
Now let the Hate beginn......... 8)
New? Don't think so. Makin corny/poppy records for the clubs is definitely not new. Timbaland, Black Eyed Peas already did that years ago.
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and since when is this shit new? the nigga comes out with played out alex da kid production and Em screaming on a track, shit we heard all last year and expects ppl to love it. Fuck outta here.
Some of the other leaks have a new sound ie. Mr. Prescription and that Bishop reference track and one other (a short 2 minute one).
that didn't sound like a timbo record to you?
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Dre's new Music is not weak INAD was no.1 on ITunes and No.4 in US Charts ,Kush was No.1 Hip Hop Charts outside US .wake up we have 2011 .The Album is not only for the Fans ,for everybody .I'm 32 Years old i listen the old Chronic in 92 ,i don't want the old Sound ,today People outside this Board don't need that old Gangsta sound from the 90's
you hear Under Pressure? that shit raped a listeners ears, it has nothing to do with g funk gantsa music
Read my Post again! That old G Funk sound is out it comes no more back and Dre's new Album has a different sound it is what it is and that's good.
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Dre's new Music is not weak INAD was no.1 on ITunes and No.4 in US Charts ,Kush was No.1 Hip Hop Charts outside US .wake up we have 2011 .The Album is not only for the Fans ,for everybody .I'm 32 Years old i listen the old Chronic in 92 ,i don't want the old Sound ,today People outside this Board don't need that old Gangsta sound from the 90's
where is the new sound? INAD is Alex da kid's sound and Em's sound, not Dre's.
Dre open the Door with his Album for New and Upcoming Producers and Artists he said this in an Interview for about 4-5 Years
I think he produced a couple of Song of his Album the Rest from other Producers.
The last 2 Albums was Produced by Dr.Dre ,Mel Man , Scott Storch , ....The Chronic co producer DAZ, SONGS: Natural Born Killaz Produced by DRE and SAM SNEED,California Love DRE and JFLEXX, Keep there Heads ringin DRE and SAM SNEED,not Dre alone produced this Tracks or Albums
Kush is prod. by DJ Khalil and mixed by Dr.Dre
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I never hate on Detox and I'm really open for a new type of sound (that's what I want for Detox)
The thing is that we dont want some new techno type shit we want some new DR DRE TYPE SHIT like the beat on the first HP commercial, the beat on The Score video in studio with Dre, etc etc. PRODUCED BY HIMSELF
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and since when is this shit new? the nigga comes out with played out alex da kid production and Em screaming on a track, shit we heard all last year and expects ppl to love it. Fuck outta here.
Some of the other leaks have a new sound ie. Mr. Prescription and that Bishop reference track and one other (a short 2 minute one).
that didn't sound like a timbo record to you?
Which one?
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and since when is this shit new? the nigga comes out with played out alex da kid production and Em screaming on a track, shit we heard all last year and expects ppl to love it. Fuck outta here.
Some of the other leaks have a new sound ie. Mr. Prescription and that Bishop reference track and one other (a short 2 minute one).
that didn't sound like a timbo record to you?
Which one?
Mr. Prescription.
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Don't know why everybody hates on DETOX an Album NOBODY heard yet.....
Everybody is suprised that Dre didn't produce any of tha leaked Tracks...WooooooHHHH..He said a million Times before that he wanted to do something different.I'm 34 yrs. old now and i started with Eazy Duz it wayback.Ya'll some ungratefull Assholes.This Man gave ya over 20 Years of Bangers and ya'll hate on a few Leaks???Dre doesn't need to prove anything to some Internet Stans.Where is yo Track record?Most of these Haters on this Board wasn't even Born when Niggaz4life dropped so STFU.
Wait for the Albu & then judge..before that..STFU....
Actually i like some of tha leaked stuff & you know why?It's new..you wanna hear G Funk?Tha 2001 Sound....Then go back & listen to it.Times Change Musi c Changes and even People.Don't Know where that EURO Dance hate comes from but we was dealing with them sound from 91-99 than that shit died.In Europe we laugh our Asses off @ them Eurodance Samples & Sounds we already heard 15 yrs. ago & to America jumped on it & embraced it.Finally Americans caught up with shit Europeans didn't even like :-D
Now let the Hate beginn......... 8)
Co-sign... It's bullshit that the #1 West Coast rap website on the net has all this hate for Dre and Detox. This forum should have love for Dre and Detox more than anywhere else, this should be a place for Dre's true fans.
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If he would put out some good music people wouldnt hate but the songs that have leaked/released have been poor. That fact it charts well has fuck all to do with quality.
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Well it's hard to judge a song when its half-finished, unmixed and unmastered. I'm sure if you heard 2001 tracks like that back in the day, you would be saying the same thing. I feel like this is just 2001 repeating itself all over again. I remember people were hating at the beginning cuz it sounded nothing like The Chronic. After it came out, everyone loved it.
Still. D.R.E. is worlds apart from anything on The Chronic. If you heard instrumentals only, you would never ever guess it was Dre.
Also to me Mr. Prescription doesn't sound like Timbo. Timbo's drums are completely different. I'm pretty sure if Dre polished that track Dre style it would be a HUGE club hit. I see what your saying about that synth tho. I just think it is a "futuristic" sounding effect or something. Also I like that Turnin Me On song, that's dope.
EDIT: INAD has potential imo. Maybe had... I think if he cleaned it up and polished it a bit it would be much better. Those drums are hard on the ears and I think he could have changed the rock feel to a more hip-hop feel buy just changing those drums a bit.
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Bullshit! There's plenty of good westcoast rap, which unfortunately won't be very succesful commercially. And there's some commercially succesful rap music that's very enjoyable as well. But to me nothing I heard by now fits one of those two options. I don't hate on Detox because I don't care but I fully understand the disappointment with the music.
If Detox is a kiler album when it drops great, but don't act like you can't see why people doubt it.
I'm 30 BTW and Niggaz4Life was my first rap album. I witnessed the music evolve and I don't expect any G-Funk. Plus I listen to a lot of music outside of rap and I go by one principle: Good music is good music. Detox leaks so far are simply average.
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If he would put out some good music people wouldnt hate but the songs that have leaked/released have been poor. That fact it charts well has fuck all to do with quality.
+1 for the short version to my novel.
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Yeah we REALLY needed this thread cause it has points NEVER made on dubcc before ::) ::) ::)
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Fuck Dre & Fuck Detox!!!
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Talk about hypocritical, people not allowed to critcise it, but you are allowed to defend an album that no-one has heard. People are allowed opinions. If they feel the supposed Detox tracks that have leaked are wack, then let them feel that way. By the way, all the leaked tracks so far have been below average.
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As someone else pointed out, INAD is Dre's 2nd most successful solo single ever. Considering Dre's career, that is not bad. Detox is going to have to sell great numbers to live up to expectations. In order to do that Dre is going to need to cater the album to more than just his original fan base.
The thing I find odd, is that Dre has been know to be a perfectionist and not leak material prior to releasing album. People also frequently complain that Dre is so stingy with his unrealeased material. Now, the same people are complaining about the songs that actually leak. It justifies Dre's hesitance to put out material and only enforces his reputation as a perfectionist.
I think we should enjoy the leaks for what they are, and wait to judge Detox until it finally drops.
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As someone else pointed out, INAD is Dre's 2nd most successful solo single ever. Considering Dre's career, that is not bad. Detox is going to have to sell great numbers to live up to expectations. In order to do that Dre is going to need to cater the album to more than just his original fan base.
The thing I find odd, is that Dre has been know to be a perfectionist and not leak material prior to releasing album. People also frequently complain that Dre is so stingy with his unrealeased material. Now, the same people are complaining about the songs that actually leak. It justifies Dre's hesitance to put out material and only enforces his reputation as a perfectionist.
I think we should enjoy the leaks for what they are, and wait to judge Detox until it finally drops.
It doesnt have to sell shit to live up to expectations. Id rather have good music and poor sales than shit music and mega numbers
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As someone else pointed out, INAD is Dre's 2nd most successful solo single ever. Considering Dre's career, that is not bad. Detox is going to have to sell great numbers to live up to expectations. In order to do that Dre is going to need to cater the album to more than just his original fan base.
The thing I find odd, is that Dre has been know to be a perfectionist and not leak material prior to releasing album. People also frequently complain that Dre is so stingy with his unrealeased material. Now, the same people are complaining about the songs that actually leak. It justifies Dre's hesitance to put out material and only enforces his reputation as a perfectionist.
I think we should enjoy the leaks for what they are, and wait to judge Detox until it finally drops.
No INAD is FAR from being in his top 5 successful solo singles. Check the sales figures from the old singles and how many people love those songs and can recite every word from them.
Just because it was #4 on BillBoard Hot 100 it does not mean its more successful than Still D.R.E. or some of the other singles he has released in the past.
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when Dre is making music that is below his standards of course people are not going to like it
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As someone else pointed out, INAD is Dre's 2nd most successful solo single ever. Considering Dre's career, that is not bad. Detox is going to have to sell great numbers to live up to expectations. In order to do that Dre is going to need to cater the album to more than just his original fan base.
The thing I find odd, is that Dre has been know to be a perfectionist and not leak material prior to releasing album. People also frequently complain that Dre is so stingy with his unrealeased material. Now, the same people are complaining about the songs that actually leak. It justifies Dre's hesitance to put out material and only enforces his reputation as a perfectionist.
I think we should enjoy the leaks for what they are, and wait to judge Detox until it finally drops.
As it has probably been said many times now, the only reason INAD was successful was because of Em.
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Kush couldve been huge if it was without Akon, and with better verses from Dre and snoop!
INAD is cool as a single.. get lots of radioplay.. even in norway!
the two other leaked tracks: chillin ot whatever its called can be dope, if its finished right.. imagine nate on the hook on that beat!!
that new timbo-track is whack!
peace
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As someone else pointed out, INAD is Dre's 2nd most successful solo single ever. Considering Dre's career, that is not bad. Detox is going to have to sell great numbers to live up to expectations. In order to do that Dre is going to need to cater the album to more than just his original fan base.
The thing I find odd, is that Dre has been know to be a perfectionist and not leak material prior to releasing album. People also frequently complain that Dre is so stingy with his unrealeased material. Now, the same people are complaining about the songs that actually leak. It justifies Dre's hesitance to put out material and only enforces his reputation as a perfectionist.
I think we should enjoy the leaks for what they are, and wait to judge Detox until it finally drops.
No INAD is FAR from being in his top 5 successful solo singles. Check the sales figures from the old singles and how many people love those songs and can recite every word from them.
Just because it was #4 on BillBoard Hot 100 it does not mean its more successful than Still D.R.E. or some of the other singles he has released in the past.
I think you need to check the facts. INAD is Dre's second most successful single as far as sales. Still D.R.E. doesn't even sniff it as far as sales.