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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: G-Bee on April 09, 2011, 08:29:46 AM
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The FBI has put about 2000 declassified files online at The Vault: http://vault.fbi.gov. Some of these documents concern Tupac and Biggie, as the Australian Daily Telegraph reports (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/carl-sagan-warned-of-space-shuttle-columbia-disaster-the-truth-is-in-the-vault/story-e6frev00-1226035518503).
A quote concerning Tupac:
“During the interview, (censored) advised writer that (censored) and others yet unidentified have been extorting money from various rap music stars via death threats. The scheme involves (censored) and other subjects making telephonic death threats to the rap star. Subjects then intercede by contacting the victim and offering protection for a fee. The victim and their family are taken to a “safe haven”, usually a private estate, and are protected by gun-totting body guards associated with the JEWISH DEFENSE LEAGUE (JDL). The subjects convince the victim they have worked a “deal” out with the person(s) making the death threats and the threats cease. The victim then pays the subjects for protection services rendered and resume their normal lifestyle with no fear of further death threats.”
A quote on the murder investigation of Biggie:
"Informants told the FBI that the killing of B.I.G., whose real name was Christopher Wallace, may have been aided by corrupt police officers. The heavily redacted files include several mentions of sources who wouldn't talk to Los Angeles police investigators about Wallace's death because of suspicions about corruption."
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That doesn't sound like its about 2Pac at all, more like Eazy.
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Yeah, that first quote sounds like a description of how Suge reportedly shook down Eric Wright and Jerry Heller for the contracts of Dr. Dre, D.O.C., and Mich'elle.
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I hadn't thought about that, it might be true, but how does the Jewish Defence League fit in to all this?
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I hadn't thought about that, it might be true, but how does the Jewish Defence League fit in to all this?
Jerry Heller
but it could've been about Pac... we ain't know all of the behind the scenes action goin' on. Rappers were more famous than financially straight back then (Pac didn't tour like that and obviously he didn't make too much money from those movies he was in). By tha time Pac got 2 Death Row he was all fucked up money-wise... shiiiittt, it could've been Biggie doin all of that. Maybe Big was like "he can have tha Rap fame but I got him by his nuts in real life"...
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Some more info on Death Row and Tupac from The Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-04-09/10-revelations-from-notorious-bigs-fbi-files-on-murder/2/):
"An informant divulged a strange theory to the FBI. According to the FBI's files, the informant suggested Death Row records which at the time, was run by Suge Knight allegedly owed Tupac Shakur $10 million in royalties. Furthermore, the informant said that Death Row had many of its artists, employees, groupies, and even the LAPD peddling drugs—allegedly buying cocaine for $14,000 per kilo on the West Coast and selling it for $24,000 per kilo on the East Coast. Several top artists reportedly left Death Row records because of the alleged practices, despite fearing for their lives. According to the FBI's records from the informant, since Tupac was owed so much money in royalties, the rapper was going to leave Death Row—taking un-released songs worth millions with him and blow the whistle on the drug operation. The records state that the informant also alleged that this Death Row employee made it look like L.A. Crips murdered Tupac and Wallace. Complicating matters, "in late 1996 or early 1997," the key witness in Tupac's murder, was, according to an informant, "executed from point blank range" in East Orange, New Jersey. He was allegedly killed by "16 and 17-year-old subjects," who, according to the FBI files, "apparently had an uncle or some other relative who lived in Los Angeles and was somehow involved with Death Row Records."
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Some more info on Death Row and Tupac from The Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-04-09/10-revelations-from-notorious-bigs-fbi-files-on-murder/2/):
"An informant divulged a strange theory to the FBI. According to the FBI's files, the informant suggested Death Row records which at the time, was run by Suge Knight allegedly owed Tupac Shakur $10 million in royalties. Furthermore, the informant said that Death Row had many of its artists, employees, groupies, and even the LAPD peddling drugs—allegedly buying cocaine for $14,000 per kilo on the West Coast and selling it for $24,000 per kilo on the East Coast. Several top artists reportedly left Death Row records because of the alleged practices, despite fearing for their lives. According to the FBI's records from the informant, since Tupac was owed so much money in royalties, the rapper was going to leave Death Row—taking un-released songs worth millions with him and blow the whistle on the drug operation. The records state that the informant also alleged that this Death Row employee made it look like L.A. Crips murdered Tupac and Wallace. Complicating matters, "in late 1996 or early 1997," the key witness in Tupac's murder, was, according to an informant, "executed from point blank range" in East Orange, New Jersey. He was allegedly killed by "16 and 17-year-old subjects," who, according to the FBI files, "apparently had an uncle or some other relative who lived in Los Angeles and was somehow involved with Death Row Records."
Thanks man , in my opinion that is the truth, Pac was goin to leave and Suge paid for his murder, furthemore the fact he was seated next to him was calculated...
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Some more info on Death Row and Tupac from The Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-04-09/10-revelations-from-notorious-bigs-fbi-files-on-murder/2/):
"An informant divulged a strange theory to the FBI. According to the FBI's files, the informant suggested Death Row records which at the time, was run by Suge Knight allegedly owed Tupac Shakur $10 million in royalties. Furthermore, the informant said that Death Row had many of its artists, employees, groupies, and even the LAPD peddling drugs—allegedly buying cocaine for $14,000 per kilo on the West Coast and selling it for $24,000 per kilo on the East Coast. Several top artists reportedly left Death Row records because of the alleged practices, despite fearing for their lives. According to the FBI's records from the informant, since Tupac was owed so much money in royalties, the rapper was going to leave Death Row—taking un-released songs worth millions with him and blow the whistle on the drug operation. The records state that the informant also alleged that this Death Row employee made it look like L.A. Crips murdered Tupac and Wallace. Complicating matters, "in late 1996 or early 1997," the key witness in Tupac's murder, was, according to an informant, "executed from point blank range" in East Orange, New Jersey. He was allegedly killed by "16 and 17-year-old subjects," who, according to the FBI files, "apparently had an uncle or some other relative who lived in Los Angeles and was somehow involved with Death Row Records."
Shit.. :o
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The key witness of Tupac's murder who the informant speaks of, that would be Yaki Kadafi (Yafeu Fula), right?
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The key witness of Tupac's murder who the informant speaks of, that would be Yaki Kadafi (Yafeu Fula), right?
I believe so. The East Orange, New Jersey also makes me think that that's who they have to be talking about.
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Wow. This is all pretty interesting
However,
"An informant divulged a strange theory to the FBI."
suggests it might not be all that accurate. Not too sure what to make of it all
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I suppose only a few would know if this could be accurate or not. But at the very least the FBI claims they had an informant who came forward with this story.
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Wow. This is all pretty interesting
However,
"An informant divulged a strange theory to the FBI."
suggests it might not be all that accurate. Not too sure what to make of it all
I suppose only a few would know if this could be accurate or not. But at the very least the FBI claims they had an informant who came forward with this story.
True
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By the way, after reading these stories about Death Row being involved in drug trafficking, Tupac's lyircs on "All Out" come to mind. Pac says "we control all cash from Atlantic-Pacific". Does anybody know what he was talking about there, could it be about the drug trade? I could be completely off, but just wondering.
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Some more info on Death Row and Tupac from The Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-04-09/10-revelations-from-notorious-bigs-fbi-files-on-murder/2/):
"An informant divulged a strange theory to the FBI. According to the FBI's files, the informant suggested Death Row records which at the time, was run by Suge Knight allegedly owed Tupac Shakur $10 million in royalties. Furthermore, the informant said that Death Row had many of its artists, employees, groupies, and even the LAPD peddling drugs—allegedly buying cocaine for $14,000 per kilo on the West Coast and selling it for $24,000 per kilo on the East Coast. Several top artists reportedly left Death Row records because of the alleged practices, despite fearing for their lives. According to the FBI's records from the informant, since Tupac was owed so much money in royalties, the rapper was going to leave Death Row—taking un-released songs worth millions with him and blow the whistle on the drug operation. The records state that the informant also alleged that this Death Row employee made it look like L.A. Crips murdered Tupac and Wallace. Complicating matters, "in late 1996 or early 1997," the key witness in Tupac's murder, was, according to an informant, "executed from point blank range" in East Orange, New Jersey. He was allegedly killed by "16 and 17-year-old subjects," who, according to the FBI files, "apparently had an uncle or some other relative who lived in Los Angeles and was somehow involved with Death Row Records."
Thanks man , in my opinion that is the truth, Pac was goin to leave and Suge paid for his murder, furthemore the fact he was seated next to him was calculated...
what is the FBi d
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There's no way suge ordered the hit and then sat right next to pac in the car. I don't k ow why people would ever believe that.
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There's no way suge ordered the hit and then sat right next to pac in the car. I don't k ow why people would ever believe that.
Yeah. Nobody orders a hit on someone and then sits next to them. That's just ignorant.
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Kadafi's death had nothing to do with 2Pac's other than the fact that Kadafi probably wouldn't have been in Jersey at that time if Pac hadn't died. It's well known that it had something to do with a relative of one of the other Outlawz.
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Kadafi's death had nothing to do with 2Pac's other than the fact that Kadafi probably wouldn't have been in Jersey at that time if Pac hadn't died. It's well known that it had something to do with a relative of one of the other Outlawz.
How are you so certain of this? It sounds like a very big 'coincidence' if Yaki was accidentally shot right after Tupac, when he was a prime witness of the murder. Anyway, you have the FBI stating on record that an informant connects Death Row with the shooting in Jersey, so why rule it out as a possibility completely?
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Suge killed Pac.
I used to believe the conspiracy theories but it's true.
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Kadafi's death had nothing to do with 2Pac's other than the fact that Kadafi probably wouldn't have been in Jersey at that time if Pac hadn't died. It's well known that it had something to do with a relative of one of the other Outlawz.
How are you so certain of this? It sounds like a very big 'coincidence' if Yaki was accidentally shot right after Tupac, when he was a prime witness of the murder. Anyway, you have the FBI stating on record that an informant connects Death Row with the shooting in Jersey, so why rule it out as a possibility completely?
Kadafi's own mother and the Outlawz have spoke on it. Fatal specifically said he was ready to go kill the dude. It was Napoleon's cousin and his friend that did it. I don't think Death Row would hire 16 or 17 year olds to carry out a hit on the other side of the country, let's be serious. Here's an interview with Rah Dib (Kadafi's own cousin) that tells what happened.
"I'm not gonna say any names. Yak was indeed murdered by napoleans cousin. Yak had gotten some work from someone and they sent dude to collect$ and Yak never paid up and because of that he was murdered by napoleans cousin. It wasn't an accident, they weren't playin russian roulette what others had said it was murder. See yak wasn't the same after Pac got killed, he was paranoid to death and learned from Pac never leave home without ya gun and vest. They knew yak had his vest on and gun with him when they came to the projects. they knocked on the door and Yak girl told him the door, not thinking nothing of it because of who it was Yak left his gun on the table and went in the hallway. As soon as he went in the hallway Yak was grabbed from behind from one of the dudes and napoleans cousin pulled his gun out and pointed it in Yaks face asking where is the money u owe. Now they all were high cause we all use to take pills back then. Yak so high thought it was a joke a said that little ass ****(380caliber) aint going through my vest so he raised it to his head and shot him in the eye yak falling to the ground and them two ran off leaving Yak to die in the project hallway. Yaks girl was lookin thru the peep hole watching and listening to the whole thing... "
As for this "coincidence" with their deaths happening so close together I don't think that is so crazy. These people were from the streets and still in the streets and lived a life where people getting murdered over drugs and money was a part of life. PLUS they say Kadafi is the only one who saw the killer? Just like Suge, Kadafi probably wouldn't talk to the police because of street code anyway.
Tupac was killed by the Crips, Biggie was killed by the dirty LAPD officers in connection with the Pirus. It's pretty simple people.
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So why was Biggie killed? I didn't think he was involved in that shit.
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What's amusing about these "Declassified FBI Documents" is that most if not all of these "New Revelations" were included in Randall Sullivan's 2003 book LAbyrinth. :laugh:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Labyrinth/Randall-Sullivan/e/9780802139719 (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Labyrinth/Randall-Sullivan/e/9780802139719)
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HiphopDX is reporting (http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.14741/title.fbi-names-eazy-e-and-2pac-as-extortion-targets-in-unsealed-file) on the extortion story as well (see the first post in this thread):
The N.W.A. family tree looms large, and you can easily connect the dots between many of today’s emcees and Eazy-E, MC Ren, Dr. Dre, Ice Cube and even DJ Yella. But a recently unsealed FBI document links both Eazy-E and Tupac Shakur to an alleged extortion attempt by the Jewish Defense League. As with many redacted government documents, many key names were omitted.
“On September 11, 1996 [omitted] reported that JDL, and others yet unidentified have been extorting money from various rap music stars via death threats,” the report states. “The scheme involves [omitted] and other subjects making telephonic death threats to the rap star. Subjects then intercede by contacting the victim and offering protection for a ‘fee’. Source reported that ERIC WRIGHT, also known as EAZY-E, who owned RUTHLESS RECORDS, Woodland Hills, California, was a victim of this extortion scheme prior to dying from AIDS. [Omitted] had also reportedly targeted TUPAC SHAKUR prior to his recent murder in Las Vegas, Nevada.”
This is not the first time there has been a connection between Ruthless and the JDL. Ruthless co-founder Jerry Heller said he enlisted help from the organization when he and Eazy-E were allegedly physically threatened into releasing artists from the label. Heller also mentioned the connection in his memoir, Ruthless.
“Eric Wright had a questing, restless mind,” Heller wrote. “He was always surprising me. ‘I want to do a movie about the JDL,’ he told me shortly before his death. He always had a hundred ideas going at once. He was obsessed with the Jewish Defense League and their motto, 'Never again.' 'Man, I can't get that out of my head,' he said. ‘Never again.’ That's dope.’”
In may of 1999, the FBI closed a two-and-a-half-year investigation on the JDL, citing an inability to corroborate the source information that spawned the probe. The FBI document also links Shakur and other unidentified victims to a separate extortion attempt by “a known organized crime figure,” whose name is omitted from the public version of the report.
“On October 17, 1996, a preliminary inquiry was initiated at Los Angeles Field Office to corroborate source information that [omitted], a known organized crime figure, along with a group of unidentified individuals were utilizing death threats in the furtherance of extortion attempts targeted towards two former prominent rap musicians from the Los Angeles area and other victims yet unidentified,” the report reads.