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Title: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on April 27, 2011, 10:41:39 AM
Dude didn't even crack 10k, and 99% of dubcc probably bootleg the album too


http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2011/04/cam’ron-vado-sell-7-5k-in-week-one/
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: Fonkarround on April 27, 2011, 11:31:07 AM
I dont think thats a bad number for artist like Quick. He isnt anywhere near mainstream, so only people affilaited to rap check for his music. That itself isnt many people, and then half of the people that check for him won't buy the album, becouse it isnt good enough, or its just easier to download it.

Mack 10 made 5-6k in first week with 'Soft white' as far as i can remember.
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on April 27, 2011, 11:36:29 AM
Bro, that's actually an alright number for today's climate. A lot of people are still expecting huge numbers, shit has changed bro. Snoop had MAJOR promo and di like 50-60k, 10k for Quik is actually cool.

I'm positively surprised.
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: Mietek23 on April 27, 2011, 11:38:23 AM
Bro, that's actually an alright number for today's climate. A lot of people are still expecting huge numbers, shit has changed bro. Snoop had MAJOR promo and di like 50-60k, 10k for Quik is actually cool.

I'm positively surprised.

Co-sign.
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: HighEyeCue on April 27, 2011, 11:39:43 AM
Daz did even less
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: D-TalkX on April 27, 2011, 11:45:32 AM
Isn't that just CDs? Digital sales won't be known for a little while and per song sales have higher earnings as well as mechanicals....He's doing better than you think i'm sure.
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: Lunatic on April 27, 2011, 12:05:25 PM
10K ain't bad. I expected more like 5-7.

Didn't Mack 10 and Kurupt do like 3K first week?
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on April 27, 2011, 12:07:00 PM
Isn't that just CDs? Digital sales won't be known for a little while and per song sales have higher earnings as well as mechanicals....He's doing better than you think i'm sure.

Huh? Where did that come from? Digital sales are known just as quickly and are included in regular soundscan (im the marketing manager at EMPIRE Distribution so yeah, I know). Per song sales are not, that is correct, though.
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: D-TalkX on April 27, 2011, 12:08:42 PM
You guys always release digital numbers per week? I'm in Canada, we don't see them until like a month later from what i've noticed so far.
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on April 27, 2011, 12:10:22 PM
We don't release numbers, but the Nilsen Soundscan includes up to date digital numbers for album sales. That might be different in Canada though, I don't know about that.
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: D-TalkX on April 27, 2011, 12:13:22 PM
Yeah it's probably the same here, my mistake. I have to look into that and find out now. I figured 10K was ok for CD sales but double or triple that for digital but I guess not.....shitty
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on April 27, 2011, 12:17:30 PM
How much did daz sell ?
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: double_a on April 27, 2011, 12:32:02 PM
is that just in the u.s? didnt find the album anywhere in toronto, ordered a copy anyway
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: Blood$ on April 27, 2011, 12:48:11 PM
not bad numbers for Quik

didn't BlaQKout do like 8-10K too first week?
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on April 27, 2011, 12:49:40 PM
Just as a comparison... Cam'ron and Vado's new album "Gunz N Butta" that came out did 7k
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: Nutty on April 27, 2011, 12:50:03 PM
Damn, time sure has changed. Will we see more rappers going back to slangin'? lol.
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: Blood$ on April 27, 2011, 12:56:00 PM
Just as a comparison... Cam'ron and Vado's new album "Gunz N Butta" that came out did 7k

I was just going to post back in here with the same thing lol
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: LooN3y on April 27, 2011, 01:07:47 PM
I dont think thats a bad number for artist like Quick. He isnt anywhere near mainstream, so only people affilaited to rap check for his music. That itself isnt many people, and then half of the people that check for him won't buy the album, becouse it isnt good enough, or its just easier to download it.

Mack 10 made 5-6k in first week with 'Soft white' as far as i can remember.


was there any even good tracks on teh album besides the ones that were released b4 the album?


i totally skipped that one
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: BLUNTTYMECC on April 27, 2011, 01:21:29 PM
who bought more then one copy?
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: monitor on April 27, 2011, 02:47:04 PM
bump dat shit at a party....betchu it get crackn
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: BLUNTTYMECC on April 27, 2011, 02:49:49 PM
bump dat shit at a party....betchu it get crackn

no
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: Gamestarr on April 27, 2011, 02:51:30 PM
aight numbers.
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: 3rd Coast on April 27, 2011, 03:47:39 PM
who bought more then one copy?

i did

and gave em to people passed em out to random people..

i do it with everybody...i support...

never cared about numbers...
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: westside159 on April 27, 2011, 05:26:05 PM
yeah hiphopdx gave it 3 stars .   people say he is old and wack now .  blaqout was terrible and trauma wasnt that good .  quik fell off man
i thought book of david was ok
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: IbblesAndBits on April 27, 2011, 06:06:31 PM
I'm satisfied with the album, it's definitely worth the purchase. Honestly, I expected it to sell even less than this considering that Quik is still pretty underground and all the downloading isn't helping any. I mean Snoop had some pretty good promo for his album, and his videos got play on tv, and he still didn't sell a lot.
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on April 27, 2011, 06:38:12 PM
those are cool numbers! he aint even on a major
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: KC-HOODSTA on April 27, 2011, 06:56:32 PM
this album aint worth it mayne.
that cam'ron and vado is hot tho B!
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 27, 2011, 09:03:57 PM
I miss the days when even this non-promoted albums could do 100k
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: doggfather on April 28, 2011, 12:10:31 AM
Bro, that's actually an alright number for today's climate. A lot of people are still expecting huge numbers, shit has changed bro. Snoop had MAJOR promo and di like 50-60k, 10k for Quik is actually cool.

I'm positively surprised.

Co-sign.


+1
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: J$crILLa on April 28, 2011, 12:22:22 AM
music industry is dead.


good album,  i own one of those 10k... and it was well worth the $
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: Dre-Day on April 28, 2011, 12:37:21 AM
I'm satisfied with the album, it's definitely worth the purchase. Honestly, I expected it to sell even less than this considering that Quik is still pretty underground and all the downloading isn't helping any. I mean Snoop had some pretty good promo for his album, and his videos got play on tv, and he still didn't sell a lot.
it helps getting his music heard
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: TT Makaveli on April 28, 2011, 01:35:47 AM
lol what did you expected?i mean Westcoast Rap saleswise is dead for a long long long time...what was the last Westcoast album that sold more than 500k?LAX...that was 2008 man...
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: doggfather on April 28, 2011, 01:40:54 AM
lol what did you expected?i mean Westcoast Rap saleswise is dead for a long long long time...what was the last Westcoast album that sold more than 500k?LAX...that was 2008 man...


sad, but truth...
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: Eddz on April 28, 2011, 02:24:07 AM
I think 9k is pretty good too. Vado got a pretty strong buzz and him and Cam still couldn't out sell Quik.
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: PhunkyDoob on April 28, 2011, 03:35:25 AM
Regarding the West as a whole. It's pretty obvious why alot of WC cats can't sell.

One of the biggest reasons are the fans. They're too split up. I mean Cali alone got what, 37 million ppl?

Half of the fans are too stuck in the old times. Don't accept anything unless it's directly related to something from the old days (like most of the rappers we have now are directly linked to the NWA family tree). It's always a comparison to the old. I mean here's Nipsey who everybody loved one day, he says "Fuck a Detox" and then all of a sudden it's "Fuck Nipsey he's wack anyways". Basically they're all nostalgia critics.

Hearing them discuss Hip-Hop is like watching any video on Youtube were the highest rated comment is some cheap lame shot at Lil' Wayne and how gay he is, while guys like "2pac, Eminem, Biggie etc rule. Fuck yeah!"

Then the other half are just straight teen boppers. It's like unless shit's pop and selling they don't wanna fuck with it.


The first half of the group are still waiting for Dre to do some G-Funk in 2011. So they won't accept anything unless it reminds them of the old days. I mean most of the "relevant" WC rappers today are still from the 80's-90's for cryin' out loud. While you can look at other regions and still see alot of artist that either came after the 90's and had a impact or just right after the whole "2pac vs Biggie era".

The other half wants something "new" and "fresh" from the WC but not the way we want them to do it. They more or less wanna hear that New Boyz, Young Money sound and wants it to sell and be popular so they can fit in in school with their friends or some shit.
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: West$ide Boi on April 28, 2011, 05:29:23 AM
I think it's not that bad considering he's still an underground artist
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: Si-Chiggedy on April 28, 2011, 06:12:57 AM
it's my favorite album that dropped in the last 7-8 moths. the last album I think that was better was E-40's Day Shift and Night Shift from last year. The lyrics on this album are better than expected and it's a lot of 80's and 90's vibe on it which i like. I bought "Blaqkout" and I will buy "Book Of David" next month when my bank account feels good again.
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: Chamillitary Click on April 28, 2011, 06:27:16 AM
Sales don't & never will mean anything.
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: doggfather on April 28, 2011, 06:34:15 AM
it's my favorite album that dropped in the last 7-8 moths. the last album I think that was better was E-40's Day Shift and Night Shift from last year. The lyrics on this album are better than expected and it's a lot of 80's and 90's vibe on it which i like. I bought "Blaqkout" and I will buy "Book Of David" next month when my bank account feels good again.

and what about the new 40's?!
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on April 28, 2011, 08:03:23 AM
Regarding the West as a whole. It's pretty obvious why alot of WC cats can't sell.

One of the biggest reasons are the fans. They're too split up. I mean Cali alone got what, 37 million ppl?

Half of the fans euros are too stuck in the old times. Don't accept anything unless it's directly related to something from the old days (like most of the rappers we have now are directly linked to the NWA family tree). It's always a comparison to the old. I mean here's Nipsey who everybody loved one day, he says "Fuck a Detox" and then all of a sudden it's "Fuck Nipsey he's wack anyways". Basically they're all nostalgia critics.

Fixed. You're delusional if you think any worthwhile percentage of California rap fans care about either the old west or the new west.
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: Si-Chiggedy on April 28, 2011, 10:54:59 AM
it's my favorite album that dropped in the last 7-8 moths. the last album I think that was better was E-40's Day Shift and Night Shift from last year. The lyrics on this album are better than expected and it's a lot of 80's and 90's vibe on it which i like. I bought "Blaqkout" and I will buy "Book Of David" next month when my bank account feels good again.

and what about the new 40's?!

they ain't that good. I didn't listen to em that intensely as I did with last year's records because of Snoop and WC also having new stuff out and now it's Quik, Del and Bootsy as well but from my few listening sessions the lyrics are not on the same level as far as making me laugh and so on. Plus the beats are a bit weaker on this one and the guest list is not that thrillin. They're still are very decent records, "That Candy Paint" is one of the dopst car anthems ever though, I love it. They're shooting a video for it
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: doggfather on April 28, 2011, 11:03:12 AM
Oh, I understand you.


Don't forget to tryin the new Brotha!
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: felipebtu on April 28, 2011, 11:09:26 AM
numbers says nothing..

Just look at the audience that is going on tour..amazing..in ever store session autographs

there you measure success, radio and record sales do not say anything else ..

this is a thing of the 20th century, is now 21century
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: KC-HOODSTA on April 28, 2011, 11:40:53 AM
Regarding the West as a whole. It's pretty obvious why alot of WC cats can't sell.

One of the biggest reasons are the fans. They're too split up. I mean Cali alone got what, 37 million ppl?

Half of the fans are too stuck in the old times. Don't accept anything unless it's directly related to something from the old days (like most of the rappers we have now are directly linked to the NWA family tree). It's always a comparison to the old. I mean here's Nipsey who everybody loved one day, he says "Fuck a Detox" and then all of a sudden it's "Fuck Nipsey he's wack anyways". Basically they're all nostalgia critics.

Hearing them discuss Hip-Hop is like watching any video on Youtube were the highest rated comment is some cheap lame shot at Lil' Wayne and how gay he is, while guys like "2pac, Eminem, Biggie etc rule. Fuck yeah!"

Then the other half are just straight teen boppers. It's like unless shit's pop and selling they don't wanna fuck with it.


The first half of the group are still waiting for Dre to do some G-Funk in 2011. So they won't accept anything unless it reminds them of the old days. I mean most of the "relevant" WC rappers today are still from the 80's-90's for cryin' out loud. While you can look at other regions and still see alot of artist that either came after the 90's and had a impact or just right after the whole "2pac vs Biggie era".

The other half wants something "new" and "fresh" from the WC but not the way we want them to do it. They more or less wanna hear that New Boyz, Young Money sound and wants it to sell and be popular so they can fit in in school with their friends or some shit.

This is the best post ive ever seen on here B!

This website is just like youtube. Niggaz talkin stupid shi5
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: westside159 on April 28, 2011, 12:46:44 PM
that new MC Eiht - Which Way Is West album coming this summer gonna be the best album this year cant wait  8) 8)
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: papa-smurf on April 28, 2011, 01:09:56 PM
quik 100% independent.he prbley get like 7$ a record.other mainstream artist get 35 cent a record.so quik getting about the same amount or more money off of  selling 10,000 then a mainstream artist that sell 100,000.so thats good 4 quik
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: shoo on April 28, 2011, 01:11:47 PM
Sales don't & never will mean anything.

real talk
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: shoo on April 28, 2011, 01:15:53 PM
Regarding the West as a whole. It's pretty obvious why alot of WC cats can't sell.

One of the biggest reasons are the fans. They're too split up. I mean Cali alone got what, 37 million ppl?

Half of the fans euros are too stuck in the old times. Don't accept anything unless it's directly related to something from the old days (like most of the rappers we have now are directly linked to the NWA family tree). It's always a comparison to the old. I mean here's Nipsey who everybody loved one day, he says "Fuck a Detox" and then all of a sudden it's "Fuck Nipsey he's wack anyways". Basically they're all nostalgia critics.

Fixed. You're delusional if you think any worthwhile percentage of California rap fans care about either the old west or the new west.

I wonder if there's any worthwile percentage of Cali locals who care about euros as much as you do...
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on April 28, 2011, 01:21:13 PM
Regarding the West as a whole. It's pretty obvious why alot of WC cats can't sell.

One of the biggest reasons are the fans. They're too split up. I mean Cali alone got what, 37 million ppl?

Half of the fans euros are too stuck in the old times. Don't accept anything unless it's directly related to something from the old days (like most of the rappers we have now are directly linked to the NWA family tree). It's always a comparison to the old. I mean here's Nipsey who everybody loved one day, he says "Fuck a Detox" and then all of a sudden it's "Fuck Nipsey he's wack anyways". Basically they're all nostalgia critics.

Fixed. You're delusional if you think any worthwhile percentage of California rap fans care about either the old west or the new west.

I wonder if there's any worthwile percentage of Cali locals who care about euros as much as you do...

Since they aren't on this website I doubt it.
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: dnjp4life on April 29, 2011, 06:19:28 AM
These are low numbers no matter how much you try to dress it up, but really it's to be expected.  I doubt many outside of California would have bought the album, ans those who did are on here!

It's frustrating really, because Quik could be much bigger than he is.  For example, 'Do Today' could easily be a hit on the charts since it's catchy and has that cross-over appeal that most people could get down with.  I have no doubt that if more people knew about DJ Quik's music, then he'd have no trouble getting a hit-record out there.
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: Greenbrigade on April 29, 2011, 06:22:28 AM
Sales don't & never will mean anything.
This. You muthafukaz on here get too caught up on numbers and shit.
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on April 29, 2011, 08:12:07 AM
Sales don't & never will mean anything.

They only do when the artist themselves make it important. I get a laugh when rappers who are whores for the mainstream (*cough* Game) end up failing. I have more respect for those who just put their shit out trying to make great music.
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: Dre-Day on April 29, 2011, 09:36:15 AM
These are low numbers no matter how much you try to dress it up, but really it's to be expected.  I doubt many outside of California would have bought the album, ans those who did are on here!

It's frustrating really, because Quik could be much bigger than he is.  For example, 'Do Today' could easily be a hit on the charts since it's catchy and has that cross-over appeal that most people could get down with.  I have no doubt that if more people knew about DJ Quik's music, then he'd have no trouble getting a hit-record out there.
i don't see the problem, he does what he loves to do & there's people who like his music
Title: Re: Book of David sell 9,700 in debut week, damn
Post by: IbblesAndBits on April 29, 2011, 09:53:59 AM
These are low numbers no matter how much you try to dress it up, but really it's to be expected.  I doubt many outside of California would have bought the album, ans those who did are on here!

It's frustrating really, because Quik could be much bigger than he is.  For example, 'Do Today' could easily be a hit on the charts since it's catchy and has that cross-over appeal that most people could get down with.  I have no doubt that if more people knew about DJ Quik's music, then he'd have no trouble getting a hit-record out there.
i don't see the problem, he does what he loves to do & there's people who like his music


True, and he has a pretty big following for an underground artist and gets a lot of respect. But still, "Do Today" would've made a MUCH better single than "Luv of my Life".