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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on May 14, 2011, 12:15:24 AM
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Hes credited for "mastering" on all the great albums, and apparently hes been around since the 60's. What is it he does that is different from other people who "master"? and how can he do so many albums at one time? can anyone pay him, or he only accepts his fav artists?...
and what exactly is "mastering" in lay terms
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mastering is the final touch for records, after mixing and before putting the music on cd , vinyl or tape . or itunes.
the mastering engineer equalizes the levels in between the songs and for example boosts or reduces bass/high frequencies , reduces noise . the difference in between a mastered and unmastered song can be huge .
he can make many albums since mastering doesnīt take as much time as mixing , it just takes damn good speakers and even better ears .
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mastering is the final touch for records, after mixing and before putting the music on cd , vinyl or tape . or itunes.
the mastering engineer equalizes the levels in between the songs and for example boosts or reduces bass/high frequencies , reduces noise . the difference in between a mastered and unmastered song can be huge .
he can make many albums since mastering doesnīt take as much time as mixing , it just takes damn good speakers and even better ears .
that's right. Without good ears you can't do proper mastering. Unfortunately, nowadays mastering does more harm than good to music...
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mastering is the final touch for records, after mixing and before putting the music on cd , vinyl or tape . or itunes.
the mastering engineer equalizes the levels in between the songs and for example boosts or reduces bass/high frequencies , reduces noise . the difference in between a mastered and unmastered song can be huge .
he can make many albums since mastering doesnīt take as much time as mixing , it just takes damn good speakers and even better ears .
that's right. Without good ears you can't do proper mastering. Unfortunately, nowadays mastering does more harm than good to music...
Why do you think it does more harm? Obviously that depends on who's doing the mastering
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mastering is the final touch for records, after mixing and before putting the music on cd , vinyl or tape . or itunes.
the mastering engineer equalizes the levels in between the songs and for example boosts or reduces bass/high frequencies , reduces noise . the difference in between a mastered and unmastered song can be huge .
he can make many albums since mastering doesnīt take as much time as mixing , it just takes damn good speakers and even better ears .
that's right. Without good ears you can't do proper mastering. Unfortunately, nowadays mastering does more harm than good to music...
Why do you think it does more harm? Obviously that depends on who's doing the mastering
I think he's referring to the loudness wars. Back in the mid to late 90s record companies did a study that showed the louder songs got more attention and sold more so they slowly one upped eachother to the poijnt where most modern CDs are compressed to the point of distortion, making instrument separation and proper lows a thing of the past. It used to be about finding the perfect volume for each part and now it's just about being as loud as possible. And it's more an executive decision than an artistic one so who does the mastering doesn't matter if he as to follow the orders.
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mastering is the final touch for records, after mixing and before putting the music on cd , vinyl or tape . or itunes.
the mastering engineer equalizes the levels in between the songs and for example boosts or reduces bass/high frequencies , reduces noise . the difference in between a mastered and unmastered song can be huge .
he can make many albums since mastering doesnīt take as much time as mixing , it just takes damn good speakers and even better ears .
that's right. Without good ears you can't do proper mastering. Unfortunately, nowadays mastering does more harm than good to music...
Why do you think it does more harm? Obviously that depends on who's doing the mastering
I think he's referring to the loudness wars. Back in the mid to late 90s record companies did a study that showed the louder songs got more attention and sold more so they slowly one upped eachother to the poijnt where most modern CDs are compressed to the point of distortion, making instrument separation and proper lows a thing of the past. It used to be about finding the perfect volume for each part and now it's just about being as loud as possible. And it's more an executive decision than an artistic one so who does the mastering doesn't matter if he as to follow the orders.
Cheers for that explanation. I know Royce's album sounded worse after Mastering as the leaked version was a lot smoother, didn't know about these "Loudness Wars" though, chur
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as far as "loudness wars" Aftermath releases do seem to play louder than any of my other albums. Like for example if you were to pop in Jedi Mind Tricks "Servants in Hell Kings In Heaven" and compare it to Games "The Documentary" Aftermath clearly wins the "Loudness War" by a longshot and it sounds much better. So major labels like Interscope are getting their moneys worth.
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mastering is the final touch for records, after mixing and before putting the music on cd , vinyl or tape . or itunes.
the mastering engineer equalizes the levels in between the songs and for example boosts or reduces bass/high frequencies , reduces noise . the difference in between a mastered and unmastered song can be huge .
he can make many albums since mastering doesnīt take as much time as mixing , it just takes damn good speakers and even better ears .
that's right. Without good ears you can't do proper mastering. Unfortunately, nowadays mastering does more harm than good to music...
Why do you think it does more harm? Obviously that depends on who's doing the mastering
I think he's referring to the loudness wars. Back in the mid to late 90s record companies did a study that showed the louder songs got more attention and sold more so they slowly one upped eachother to the poijnt where most modern CDs are compressed to the point of distortion, making instrument separation and proper lows a thing of the past. It used to be about finding the perfect volume for each part and now it's just about being as loud as possible. And it's more an executive decision than an artistic one so who does the mastering doesn't matter if he as to follow the orders.
Cheers for that explanation. I know Royce's album sounded worse after Mastering as the leaked version was a lot smoother, didn't know about these "Loudness Wars" though, chur
do you have the leaked version?
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^^ I think I lost it when I got a new lap top sorry bro
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mastering is the final touch for records, after mixing and before putting the music on cd , vinyl or tape . or itunes.
the mastering engineer equalizes the levels in between the songs and for example boosts or reduces bass/high frequencies , reduces noise . the difference in between a mastered and unmastered song can be huge .
he can make many albums since mastering doesnīt take as much time as mixing , it just takes damn good speakers and even better ears .
that's right. Without good ears you can't do proper mastering. Unfortunately, nowadays mastering does more harm than good to music...
Why do you think it does more harm? Obviously that depends on who's doing the mastering
I think he's referring to the loudness wars. Back in the mid to late 90s record companies did a study that showed the louder songs got more attention and sold more so they slowly one upped eachother to the poijnt where most modern CDs are compressed to the point of distortion, making instrument separation and proper lows a thing of the past. It used to be about finding the perfect volume for each part and now it's just about being as loud as possible. And it's more an executive decision than an artistic one so who does the mastering doesn't matter if he as to follow the orders.
yup. that's exactly what i was reffering to.
but i need to clear one thing. nowadays it's not just uppering the volume to the point of distortion. This point was passed years ago. Now they make records unbelievably loud and use compressors to avoid the distortion. This makes records sound still clear but they lose their natural dynamic range, and that simply means they doesn't sound that good...
(http://www.eliscasado.com/resources/loudness-war-compression-diagram.jpg)
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http://www.youtube.com//v/oBwH5KIU7ow
http://www.youtube.com//v/w8RucAapi6o
http://www.youtube.com//v/mlt59hPBxW8
http://www.youtube.com//v/mpDWyMwAA0s&
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http://www.youtube.com//v/oBwH5KIU7ow
http://www.youtube.com//v/w8RucAapi6o
http://www.youtube.com//v/mlt59hPBxW8
http://www.youtube.com//v/mpDWyMwAA0s&
+1, cheers for the vids
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as far as "loudness wars" Aftermath releases do seem to play louder than any of my other albums. Like for example if you were to pop in Jedi Mind Tricks "Servants in Hell Kings In Heaven" and compare it to Games "The Documentary" Aftermath clearly wins the "Loudness War" by a longshot and it sounds much better. So major labels like Interscope are getting their moneys worth.
itīs because dr. dre is a master in mixing records . jedi mind tricks doesnīt even try to go for the big sound dre is known of . canīt compare those two, it has very little to do with mastering.
like dude said, they just make albums loud these days, no dynamic range. itīs much more pleasant to turn up the volume and listen to a record mastered in the old way than an album just cranked up to the max . the different elements in the music come out very differently if the recordīs sound is not compressed flat like they do with most mainstream albums
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The Kanye album was horribly mastered. That's the best example recently of bad mastering.