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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Ronny on July 12, 2011, 12:43:59 PM
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I go with Mess. The boy is too fire!
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Messy aint a great lyricist bot he got a above average flow & a dope voice (one of the best voices in hip-hop today imo). Dude got that swagger.
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Messy's fallen off IMO... but dude was dope from 94 to 06-07 to me. dude had mad mainstream appeal, and a crazy work ethic on top of that. still wonder why he's always stayed regional. he had everything to hit big like a Jeezy for example, the beats, the voice, the gimmicks and catch phrases (What's Haaatnin', Playin wit my nose, etc.), he even had the right features to cross over on his albums (Lil Flip & 40 when they were big, Keyshia Cole, Birdman, Dead Prez etc.).
he isn't a lyricist at all but he still makes entertaining songs... he still had some good lines here and there though and dude could flow like crazy... on songs like Keep it on the DL he rapped his ass off.
but what made him stand out during the musical drought the bay went through during the 00's was his beats too... Sean-T, Rick Rock, D'Wayne Wiggins, dude put out some serious songs.
i was happy to see him featured on the latest trae cd... unfortunately the song's nothing special... what a waste of a combination
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i fux with messy's raps, but he was on some bitchmade shit...
http://www.youtube.com/v/0hPS2FIPJbw
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i fux with messy's raps, but he's was on some bitchmade shit...
http://www.youtube.com/v/0hPS2FIPJbw
What he do wrong, he got the mic back lol
The truth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEF99rIzCZw&NR=1
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Trick quest cause neither are MC's ;)
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Get on my hype
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i fux with messy's raps, but he's was on some bitchmade shit...
http://www.youtube.com/v/0hPS2FIPJbw
What he do wrong, he got the mic back lol
The truth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEF99rIzCZw&NR=1
lol, come on, dude is all on stage throwin up the C's with all of mess's crew watchin it, doin nothin...then he steps up 2 mess n snatches his mic...i dunno bout that, even the way messy addresses it makes it look like a loss on his part. "i dont feel like i lost no stripes offa this shit 2 tell u the truth" lol, right . I dont see him gettin the mic back in the vid, and even if he did, shits still embarrassing. definitely a loss, at least mess admits "i do feel like i gotta tighten my shit up", but he still look like he took an L tryna explain the shit. whatever, though, if u say he aint bitch, at least admit his entourage lookin bitch right there.
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Goldie Loc over Messy Marv any day
KC rap fans love Messy Marv so I'm guessing he's wack and wouldn't bump his shit around KC just on principal
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Goldie Loc over Messy Marv any day
KC rap fans love Messy Marv so I'm guessing he's wack and wouldn't bump his shit around KC just on principal
naah, messy has tight shit...check:
http://www.youtube.com/v/dGVqSLV0JbY
http://www.youtube.com/v/6RuK4govSz0
http://www.youtube.com/v/v1P2b3gNokI
messy's from the bay...lotsa kc cats fuck with the bay, so thats why u hear of him out where u stay, but u already know whats good with the bay.
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Goldie Loc over Messy Marv any day
KC rap fans love Messy Marv so I'm guessing he's wack and wouldn't bump his shit around KC just on principal
naah, messy has tight shit...check:
http://www.youtube.com/v/6RuK4govSz0
that whole song is just Messy biting Too Short lines
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Goldie Loc over Messy Marv any day
KC rap fans love Messy Marv so I'm guessing he's wack and wouldn't bump his shit around KC just on principal
naah, messy has tight shit...check:
http://www.youtube.com/v/6RuK4govSz0
that whole song is just Messy biting Too Short lines
bay swag, still tight
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Trick quest cause neither are MC's ;)
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LMFAO! how can u even ask?!
Messy Marv was one of my favorites until mid-07 everything that dropped after is pure garbage. And thats caused by his cocaine abuse... just listen to his new album snippets "Kontraband", he caqn't even pronounce shit anymore, he sounds really fucked up. And all that boy boy young mess shit was ridicolous and corny as hell. im really sad what happened to him. but as his name says, he is a mess right now. fucked up completely. and that hannah montana track was just the tip of the iceberg... WTF WAS THAT?!
As for Goldie, I never considered him to be one of the greatest rappers but I lately recognized that has some good raps and flows. I like his verse on the new Snoop records on "We Rest N Cali".
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U meant Goldie LoC (http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTcj7qJlcIO3WUzBthL61a1KgR3I_2bz5Y_WNfLxilsoMOQLZTU) VS Mr Messy (http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS0lZq9uttHA5QnNukBiOK3bZJy0Gbhe00siXbyT0_XhWst2dq-)
LMAO ... cant compare those 2 ...
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Gotta go with Goldie on this one
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Goldie Loc over Messy Marv any day
KC rap fans love Messy Marv so I'm guessing he's wack and wouldn't bump his shit around KC just on principal
you're "guessing" so your opinion has no value. if you actually knew about mess's discography then your opinion would hold weight. but no you're basically judging a book by its cover. you're dissing people for being sheep and preach about knowledge but i guess you really are the ignorant one that judges someone's music because people you hate listen to it. stupidest reason to dislike an artist.
people from KC listen to a lot of Bay area music... there's a strong Bay/KC connection... like Rich The Factor who did projects on Get Low Records and collabo albums with J. Diggs or Fat Tone... i understand you're not into the bay scene, but calling it "wack" just because you hate your town is ridiculous.
LMAO ... cant compare those 2 ...
How can we not compare them ? they're both gangsta rappers... I love Goldie Loc's music to death but it's not like he's one of the GOATs (neither is Messy which is precisely my point, both can be compared). let's break it down
Career : Messy Marv. Goldie has two group albums with the Eastsidaz. but his solo career is irrelevant as fuck... lowkey project with cheap production... I actually loved the project that leaked in 01 with the songs "Money", "Work For Me", "I'm A Lowrider", "From the County to the Pen" but at any rate Messy Marv takes the win for his incredible work ethic. 94 to 07 dude's been dropping albums and compilations that ranged from alright to very good. no classics though. Goldie has a classic group album (1st eastsidaz) under his belt but then again he wasn't the frontman of the group and IMO Tray Deee was better on that album (and in general, but not taking anything from Goldie's talent).
Lyrics : Goldie Loc. both ain't lyricists but Goldie is the better one, dude had some very good lines on the eastsidaz albums
Voice : It's very subjective but I'd go with Messy. Goldie has a good voice too though.
Flow : Messy. I love Goldie but he's inconsistent. Dude is actually off beat quite often... take the eastsidaz albums, his verses on "Ghetto Life", "Dogghouse", "Crip Hop" for example contain phases where he clearly is offbeat. Messy's flow is trash nowadays but he has proved in the past that he could flow like a MF.
Keep it on DL flow wise >>>>>>>>>> Goldie's best performance
One thing Goldie has that Messy doesn't his production skills, but then again Goldie has not produced a lot...
so overall I think Messy Marv has had a better career than Goldie Loc... I mean if u take a look at their catalogues it's pretty obvious. Goldie could have had a good career if he had put himself out there like Messy Marv did.
Messy is trash nowadays though, his Blood rep is really fake... plus dude calims Fillmoe but is from Pittsburg, his beef with San Quinn looked really silly from the outside, dude really lost it.
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always liked Messy Marv. but as far as lyrics -- Goldie Loc is 10000000x better, hands down (especially his solo-shit).
Goldie had a bad career, dont even think hes eatin good. too bad Koch Records dropped the ball on the Warzone-project. hes a very talented dude musicaly n artisticaly, n if Snoop
knew better hed git rid of those new clown-protegees (Hustle Boyz, Mac Shawn) - and put Goldie on again.
but.... next stop - Clint Dogg-paychecks for 16bar-verses
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that's exactly what I think Michael Madsen... couldn't have said better... only thing though I do think the Hustle Boyz are talented. Mac Shawn was relevant at some point (93-01) but is washed up as we speak
Goldie had a huge potential... considering his skills on the mic and behind the boards...
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Bouli77 ...... like the homie Madsen said Lyrically G.loc is a 100 time better
Cant complain on the some points uve made But keep in mind Goldie 's Carreer is far from over ..... That boy Messy is DONE
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Bouli77 ...... like the homie Madsen said Lyrically G.loc is a 100 time better
Cant complain on the some points uve made But keep in mind Goldie 's Carreer is far from over ..... That boy Messy is DONE
Goldie Locs career is already done and has been done for several years. Messy is still putting out albums. ::)
Considering one paved his own way independently and the other wouldn't even be rapping if Snoop hadn't put him on an album....I think its pretty obvious who's better.
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^^^we Will C soon homie .... He is about to released a new mixtape and i hope this Will shut yo mouth .... u CAN talk quantity .. Im talkin bout Quality .. Goldie loc is a beast on The mic plus he produce .... Not sayin messy marv is wacc but imo u cant compare those 2 ...
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lol at the stanism, dude just STFU already.
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These 2 rappers are so different in so many ways, there's no comparison possible!
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Gotta go with Goldie on this one
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Just because it exists :-X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef8tv487uUI
couldn't imagine such song 5 years back... sad!