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Lifestyle => Tha G-Spot => Topic started by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on July 23, 2011, 06:56:35 AM
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Utöya, Norway
84 teenagers executed.
smh
R.I.P.
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It's crazy, totally surreal.
(http://static04.vg.no/drfront/images/2011-07/23/88-4940faf7-7a820004.jpeg)
Responsible for 91 deaths (yet - likely to rise).
I suggest capital punishment to be reinstated in cases like this.
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I suggest capital punishment to be reinstated in cases like this.
^co-sign
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Tragic
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why the hell he do that shit?
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When the news said he was dressed as a cop to get everybody around him so he can kill the more people he could, man I was like "he really wanted to kill everybody!!". But WTF it took an hour and a half for the SWAT to step in ???
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did anyone else notice that yest this guy was called a terrorist and now he's not because they found out hes white?
smh
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why the hell he do that shit?
Christian Conservative Right Winged politically lunatic attacking the Labour Party's annual Youth Camp
When the news said he was dressed as a cop to get everybody around him so he can kill the more people he could, man I was like "he really wanted to kill everybody!!". But WTF it took an hour and a half for the SWAT to step in ???
Cause he blew up the Government building in Oslo (approx. 1 hour away from this isle) and most of the forces were summoned there.
did anyone else notice that yest this guy was called a terrorist and now he's not because they found out hes white?
smh
Ofc he's a terrorist, he will be charged according to our terrorist act.
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http://www.cnn.com for full coverage.
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K. dub, I don't mean to sound like a jerk but is there ANY logical reason this guy was able to shoot people for 90 minutes before a swat team got at him?
I mean I'd expect that in some parts of the world but not in that part.
glad they got that dick alive
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K. dub, I don't mean to sound like a jerk but is there ANY logical reason this guy was able to shoot people for 90 minutes before a swat team got at him?
I mean I'd expect that in some parts of the world but not in that part.
glad they got that dick alive
They were busy with the bombing, dude. And to get to the island you have to take a boat or plane/helicopter.
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K. dub, I don't mean to sound like a jerk but is there ANY logical reason this guy was able to shoot people for 90 minutes before a swat team got at him?
I mean I'd expect that in some parts of the world but not in that part.
glad they got that dick alive
They were busy with the bombing, dude. And to get to the island you have to take a boat or plane/helicopter.
just hard to comprehend they took 90 minutes.....that's an eternity if you're a survivor who was hiding that whole time.
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K. dub, I don't mean to sound like a jerk but is there ANY logical reason this guy was able to shoot people for 90 minutes before a swat team got at him?
I mean I'd expect that in some parts of the world but not in that part.
glad they got that dick alive
Yeah, 90 mins is a long time and this shit right here came out of nowhere, nobody connected that something would happen at a political youth camp on an island in the damn woods as all of the region's police force was called to Oslo. But yeah, they could've used helicopters.
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According to the official time line of the police, it took exactly 1 hour from the first call to the arrest was made..
It's a 35 min. drive + the boat trip.. the helicopter argument is valid, but I figure it takes time to co-ordinate a SWAT-team fully geared up and heli'd up.
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that shit is crazy i thought the virginia tech shooting was extreme but this is a whole different level. also i doubt the norway swat is quite as efficient as the ones here its a pretty peaceful place i think
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that shit is crazy i thought the virginia tech shooting was extreme but this is a whole different level. also i doubt the norway swat is quite as efficient as the ones here its a pretty peaceful place i think
Their prisons are great though
(http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/1787/norwegianprisonthumb01ao9.jpg)
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According to the official time line of the police, it took exactly 1 hour from the first call to the arrest was made..
It's a 35 min. drive + the boat trip.. the helicopter argument is valid, but I figure it takes time to co-ordinate a SWAT-team fully geared up and heli'd up.
This.
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that shit is crazy i thought the virginia tech shooting was extreme but this is a whole different level. also i doubt the norway swat is quite as efficient as the ones here its a pretty peaceful place i think
Their prisons are great though
(http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/1787/norwegianprisonthumb01ao9.jpg)
lol. No wonder he was caught alive.
But ehh, it's really fucked up that prisoners in some European countries have more comfort than many people outside.
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But ehh, it's really fucked up that prisoners in some European countries have more comfort than many people outside.
Aye.
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But ehh, it's really fucked up that prisoners in some European countries have more comfort than many people outside.
Aye.
That would only mean to raise standarts for people outside, right? It sounded a little like lowering the standarts for prisoners...
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But ehh, it's really fucked up that prisoners in some European countries have more comfort than many people outside.
Aye.
That would only mean to raise standarts for people outside, right? It sounded a little like lowering the standarts for prisoners...
In my opinion prisoners in Norway have way too good standards inside. I mean there's student homes with much worse conditions.
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But ehh, it's really fucked up that prisoners in some European countries have more comfort than many people outside.
Aye.
That would only mean to raise standarts for people outside, right? It sounded a little like lowering the standarts for prisoners...
In my opinion prisoners in Norway have way too good standards inside. I mean there's student homes with much worse conditions.
But their job prospects aren't as good after they come out.
For real, something like prisoner's living-conditions is a measurestick for the whole society. Norway>Germany>USA
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But ehh, it's really fucked up that prisoners in some European countries have more comfort than many people outside.
Aye.
That would only mean to raise standarts for people outside, right? It sounded a little like lowering the standarts for prisoners...
In my opinion prisoners in Norway have way too good standards inside. I mean there's student homes with much worse conditions.
But their job prospects aren't as good after they come out.
For real, something like prisoner's living-conditions is a measurestick for the whole society. Norway>Germany>USA
Prisoners are living for free though. Plus they are fucking assholes who don't even deserve to breathe sometimes. Also, some guy with good criminal ties or someone who has good exposure through the media can have a brighter future when coming out than some dude who studied stuff like philosophy etc.
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But ehh, it's really fucked up that prisoners in some European countries have more comfort than many people outside.
Aye.
That would only mean to raise standarts for people outside, right? It sounded a little like lowering the standarts for prisoners...
In my opinion prisoners in Norway have way too good standards inside. I mean there's student homes with much worse conditions.
But their job prospects aren't as good after they come out.
For real, something like prisoner's living-conditions is a measurestick for the whole society. Norway>Germany>USA
Prisoners are living for free though. Plus they are fucking assholes who don't even deserve to breathe sometimes. Also, some guy with good criminal ties or someone who has good exposure through the media can have a brighter future when coming out than some dude who studied stuff like philosophy etc.
And they get paid.. Smh..
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But ehh, it's really fucked up that prisoners in some European countries have more comfort than many people outside.
Aye.
That would only mean to raise standarts for people outside, right? It sounded a little like lowering the standarts for prisoners...
In my opinion prisoners in Norway have way too good standards inside. I mean there's student homes with much worse conditions.
But their job prospects aren't as good after they come out.
For real, something like prisoner's living-conditions is a measurestick for the whole society. Norway>Germany>USA
Prisoners are living for free though. Plus they are fucking assholes who don't even deserve to breathe sometimes. Also, some guy with good criminal ties or someone who has good exposure through the media can have a brighter future when coming out than some dude who studied stuff like philosophy etc.
And they get paid.. Smh..
Who is "they"? Prisoners or mass murderers? Are we talking about exceptions or generally? I don't think that the average prisoner is treated too nicely.
I also believe that people deserve equal treatment by law and there's no good way to draw a line between mass murderers, pedophiles etc. and other prisoners for stripping them off their rights. Those exeptions are always just the first step. And if I had to go to prison for something then please let it be Norway and not the US.
Humanity shows when dealing with the worst, not the best.
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if you are honestly trying to say that this guy who massacred almost a hundred people deserves better conditions than that room in the photo then youre a fuckin moron, point blank
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But ehh, it's really fucked up that prisoners in some European countries have more comfort than many people outside.
Aye.
That would only mean to raise standarts for people outside, right? It sounded a little like lowering the standarts for prisoners...
In my opinion prisoners in Norway have way too good standards inside. I mean there's student homes with much worse conditions.
But their job prospects aren't as good after they come out.
For real, something like prisoner's living-conditions is a measurestick for the whole society. Norway>Germany>USA
Prisoners are living for free though. Plus they are fucking assholes who don't even deserve to breathe sometimes. Also, some guy with good criminal ties or someone who has good exposure through the media can have a brighter future when coming out than some dude who studied stuff like philosophy etc.
And they get paid.. Smh..
Who is "they"? Prisoners or mass murderers? Are we talking about exceptions or generally? I don't think that the average prisoner is treated too nicely.
I also believe that people deserve equal treatment by law and there's no good way to draw a line between mass murderers, pedophiles etc. and other prisoners for stripping them off their rights. Those exeptions are always just the first step. And if I had to go to prison for something then please let it be Norway and not the US.
Humanity shows when dealing with the worst, not the best.
Well if you are a leftist who simply likes to treat bad people well and stuff, think about it more pragmatically: People might not care about going to prison at all because their outside life is worse to begin with. Your life might be much better, but there just are people who are fucked up and who have more comfort, social life and structure in a good prison. If the prisons are so good that going to prison is actually a seemingly logical decision for some people, then that is not a good thing. Prison should be something people should be willing to stay away from at all costs. If you can imagine having people shooting people and turning themselves in just to have a better life there is something seriously wrong with this.
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Yes, people should not want to be sentenced to prison.
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But ehh, it's really fucked up that prisoners in some European countries have more comfort than many people outside.
Aye.
That would only mean to raise standarts for people outside, right? It sounded a little like lowering the standarts for prisoners...
In my opinion prisoners in Norway have way too good standards inside. I mean there's student homes with much worse conditions.
But their job prospects aren't as good after they come out.
For real, something like prisoner's living-conditions is a measurestick for the whole society. Norway>Germany>USA
Prisoners are living for free though. Plus they are fucking assholes who don't even deserve to breathe sometimes. Also, some guy with good criminal ties or someone who has good exposure through the media can have a brighter future when coming out than some dude who studied stuff like philosophy etc.
And they get paid.. Smh..
Who is "they"? Prisoners or mass murderers? Are we talking about exceptions or generally? I don't think that the average prisoner is treated too nicely.
I also believe that people deserve equal treatment by law and there's no good way to draw a line between mass murderers, pedophiles etc. and other prisoners for stripping them off their rights. Those exeptions are always just the first step. And if I had to go to prison for something then please let it be Norway and not the US.
Humanity shows when dealing with the worst, not the best.
Well if you are a leftist who simply likes to treat bad people well and stuff, think about it more pragmatically: People might not care about going to prison at all because their outside life is worse to begin with. Your life might be much better, but there just are people who are fucked up and who have more comfort, social life and structure in a good prison. If the prisons are so good that going to prison is actually a seemingly logical decision for some people, then that is not a good thing. Prison should be something people should be willing to stay away from at all costs. If you can imagine having people shooting people and turning themselves in just to have a better life there is something seriously wrong with this.
If this would be the case you might have a point but there is not one single incident I can come up with where someone shot a person to get incarcerated. And even if you could give me 10 examples, that still would be an absolute exception. You made this scenario up just to illustrate your point.
BTW, I'm sure you're aware that punishment never discourages criminals so that argument is pointless, as well.
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if you are honestly trying to say that this guy who massacred almost a hundred people deserves better conditions than that room in the photo then youre a fuckin moron, point blank
True, true! Fortunately I didn't say that.
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The comment that punishment is not altering actions is just something leftists make up. You're obviously a plain leftist and I don't want to have a ideological discussion like this cause it's been killing me throughout my life in university because 90% of vocal people are leftists there.. :D Alan Shaw ass nigga.
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The comment that punishment is not altering actions is just something leftists make up. You're obviously a plain leftist and I don't want to have a ideological discussion like this cause it's been killing me throughout my life in university because 90% of vocal people are leftists there.. :D Alan Shaw ass nigga.
Me neither, but still
"If this would be the case you might have a point but there is not one single incident I can come up with where someone shot a person to get incarcerated. And even if you could give me 10 examples, that still would be an absolute exception. You made this scenario up just to illustrate your point."
If you think my comment about punishment is bullshit what about that^^^ Where did you get that idea from?
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The comment that punishment is not altering actions is just something leftists make up. You're obviously a plain leftist and I don't want to have a ideological discussion like this cause it's been killing me throughout my life in university because 90% of vocal people are leftists there.. :D Alan Shaw ass nigga.
Me neither, but still
"If this would be the case you might have a point but there is not one single incident I can come up with where someone shot a person to get incarcerated. And even if you could give me 10 examples, that still would be an absolute exception. You made this scenario up just to illustrate your point."
If you think my comment about punishment is bullshit what about that^^^ Where did you get that idea from?
there are a few occasions where people commit crimes just to get into prison, but they are indeed very rare.
I don't think many criminals really think about the consequences of their actions, therefore I neither think that prison can really scare people off nor encourage them. Why come junkies always back to addiction even tho they now how bad it is?
How many times people say they don't want to go to prison again but have a relapse?
Still, I thin prisoners deserve a bad treament. Even with all measure to treat them good and resocialize them, the great majority will always fall back to their old ways like a junkie to his habit.