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Title: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on July 27, 2011, 03:32:25 PM
Jets just signed Holmes to a five year deal worth 50 million. Apparently it's very incentive and bonus based with a cap hit of only 2.45 million for the first season.

Aso to the jets is picking up a lot of steam and is being talked about everywhere as quite serious. Revis and aso on the same team would be unfair.

Carson Palmer has retired, the bengals owner is refusing to trade him
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 27, 2011, 04:33:21 PM
Aso, please! PLEASE!
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Citizen-Y on July 27, 2011, 04:49:22 PM
Skins now have 14 wide receivers on the roster, only 3 corners.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 27, 2011, 05:28:09 PM
Skins now have 14 wide receivers on the roster, only 3 corners.

I want LaRon Landry.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Lunatic on July 27, 2011, 06:59:33 PM
Titans sign Matt Hasselbeck  8)  Titans also inquiring about Ray Edwards, I doubt this happens but I would literally go crazy with happiness if so

Sidney Rice to the Seahawks (I bet Braylon Edwards lands in Minnesota)

If Jets pick up Aso, I will shit my pants.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on July 27, 2011, 07:39:43 PM
I'm really disappointed jets aren't bringing Edwards back. Or so it looks anyway. He really wants to be here and has said he'd take below market value. He proved himself last year with great play. And his blocking is amazing

He tweeted that he wants to be with the jets but he feels they don't feel the same. But then he deleted the tweet. So who knows.

I think jets are putting everything into signing aso and everyone else is on the backburner. But it seems like the good atmosphere of players wanting to stay with the team is paying off as all the unrestricted jets role players are waiting for them.

I'm curious where brad smith goes. Jets are losing him without a doubt. The guys a huge weapon though
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on July 27, 2011, 07:41:42 PM
Titans need to pay Chris Johnson. He deserves the money. If hasselback goes into the season making seven times more money that's fucked up lol. But good signing for titans. I'm liking what thier doing.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Lunatic on July 27, 2011, 07:43:25 PM
Titans need to pay Chris Johnson. He deserves the money. If hasselback goes into the season making seven times more money that's fucked up lol. But good signing for titans. I'm liking what thier doing.
They will definitely pay CJ. They'd be retarded not too. CJ needs to be making about 10-12 mil a year.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Hittman2001 on July 27, 2011, 08:47:58 PM
Being a dallas fan....flamesuit is on.....sad to see barber cut....roy williams just wasnt working out.   hopefully rob ryn lights a fire under the defense's  ass
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 28, 2011, 10:15:12 AM
If not signing Braylon means we get Aso, I'm straight.

Haynesworth to the Pats...great move; but not for me.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Lunatic on July 28, 2011, 10:34:51 AM
If Titans cut Young (happening at 3PM this afternoon), Hppe & Gage (2 cuts that should happen), that gives us nearly 30 mil in cap space.

Sign Mebane at DT, Dave Ball at DE (or Ray Edwards), a solid MLB, SS (Michael Huff), OL & WR.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on July 28, 2011, 11:39:38 AM
Chiefs picked up Steve Breaston from the Cardinals.  This is a good move because...

-Last year the weakest position on the team was at wide reciever.  The Chiefs had one solid reciever in Dwayne Bowe, then after that they shuffled many players in and out as the #2 reciever, such as Chris Chambers and Terrance Copper, and things got so bad that they ended up picking up Kevin Curtis off the street to be their #2 reciever in the playoffs against Baltimore.

-Now the receiver position is a huge strength for the Chiefs.  With Pro Bowler Dwayne Bowe, first round draft pick Jonathon Baldwin, and Steve Breaston most likely in the slot.

-Steve Brestons biggest year was 2008 when he had 100+ catches and 1,000+ yards receiving.  His offensive coordinator then was Todd Haley, who is now the head coach of the Chiefs.

-Breaston's numbers may not have been spectacular last year, but that was because Arizona had no QB.  They went from Matt Lienert to Max Hull and so on, and never found a decent QB
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Lunatic on July 28, 2011, 11:45:02 AM
^ That's a good move

Chiefs got pretty explosive at WR via draft/free agency.

There WR corps was ugly last year
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on July 28, 2011, 01:36:21 PM
^ That's a good move

Chiefs got pretty explosive at WR via draft/free agency.

There WR corps was ugly last year

yeah, but now they are dangerous.  Because remember Haley was a wide receiver coach for most of his career, it is the position he knows best.  Larry Fitzgerald credits Haley for making him great.  So now he's got the talent and he knows how to turn that talent into results
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Shallow on July 28, 2011, 01:49:12 PM
^ That's a good move

Chiefs got pretty explosive at WR via draft/free agency.

There WR corps was ugly last year

yeah, but now they are dangerous.  Because remember Haley was a wide receiver coach for most of his career, it is the position he knows best.  Larry Fitzgerald credits Haley for making him great.  So now he's got the talent and he knows how to turn that talent into results



Kurt Warner really helped Haley look better than he was. Haley couldn't get anything out of Leinart, and I don't think Cassel has the presence of Warner, or the talent around him. Bowe and Breaston are not Fitzsz and Bolden. Lucky for theChiefs that the AFC West is as wide open as it gets.

Haynes makesd no sense to me. He can't play NT, and the Pats don't need one anyway, and he can't play DE; so what is the point of him. They'll stop the run grreat, and Blitz great but their pass rush will be horrible unless they always blitz and then teams with wiley QBs will eat them alive.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on July 28, 2011, 05:46:28 PM

Kurt Warner really helped Haley look better than he was. Haley couldn't get anything out of Leinart, and I don't think Cassel has the presence of Warner, or the talent around him. Bowe and Breaston are not Fitzsz and Bolden. Lucky for theChiefs that the AFC West is as wide open as it gets.

Come on, you were my go-to guy last year on dubcc when it came to the Chiefs.  Are you withdrawing your support since Wiess left?
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: O.G A.Geesta'z on July 28, 2011, 05:52:06 PM
i heard Ocho went to New England  :o

and Jets should keep Edwards he's too good to let go

as far as Cowboys we shouldnt have let go of Colombo and Davis but im fine with letting go of Roy "butterfingers" Williams and Marion "i got payed so i dont play" Barber
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 28, 2011, 06:21:49 PM
OCHO TO NEW ENGLAND?
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: O.G A.Geesta'z on July 28, 2011, 07:22:40 PM
OCHO TO NEW ENGLAND?

i read it on facebook so dont take my word for it
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Lunatic on July 28, 2011, 07:43:48 PM
Ocho & Haynesworth to NE is pretty crazy lol. But I don't think Haynesworth will work in NE AT ALL
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Lunatic on July 28, 2011, 09:12:37 PM
With Jonathan Joseph signing with the Texans, the Jets become the clear cut favorite to land Aso.. That's SCARY!

And Eagles close to signing Vince Young. A good move for both parties IMO
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Shallow on July 28, 2011, 09:14:39 PM

If the Jets have Revis and Aso they can bltz on every down and do so with out leaving anyone open.

Ocho & Haynesworth to NE is pretty crazy lol. But I don't think Haynesworth will work in NE AT ALL

I don't see Ocho working there either. Brady never worked well with finesse WRs. People knock his lack of supporting cast through the years but every one them were workhorses who fought for their spots and blocked like TEs. Chad is a is a great hands WR who can run precise routes, but Brady could never make precise throws. Randy worked like a dog to make some of those catches. Chad was never the type to do that in the first place.



Kurt Warner really helped Haley look better than he was. Haley couldn't get anything out of Leinart, and I don't think Cassel has the presence of Warner, or the talent around him. Bowe and Breaston are not Fitzsz and Bolden. Lucky for theChiefs that the AFC West is as wide open as it gets.

Come on, you were my go-to guy last year on dubcc when it came to the Chiefs.  Are you withdrawing your support since Wiess left?

Offensively, yes. But as long as you got Romeo and it's the AFC West you still gotta chance. No 11-5 this year though, but 9-7 might be enough to win the division, and if they play a strong run first system they can get to 9-7.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 28, 2011, 09:25:08 PM
So tight we lost Brad Smith to the Bills. :'(
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on July 28, 2011, 11:39:01 PM
Not surprised we lost brad smith. He was a nice addition but he's not worth the money thier paying him. He's a kick returner and good for three or four plays a game in the wildcat but that's it. Not worth the money.


I really want Edwards back

Looks like the jets are getting impatient with aso. He's holding the other signings hostage with this. I wish he'd just sign already. Brad smith tweeted he was tired of waiting. Braylons showing his frustration with it.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on July 28, 2011, 11:41:04 PM
I don't get the haynseworth with pats  at all. Chads a good pick up though.

Breastons a good pick up as well with the chiefs
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 29, 2011, 12:41:28 AM
Aso is an idiot. If he wants to win, he'd sign so they can make more signings.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on July 29, 2011, 01:14:06 AM
I feel like Joe McKnight is going to break out this season and be a great kr/pr
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Lunatic on July 29, 2011, 10:31:15 AM
Apparently Aso's decision will be the Jets or Cowboys
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 29, 2011, 11:13:18 AM
I feel like Joe McKnight is going to break out this season and be a great kr/pr

Loved the guy since his USC days. He's got talent.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on July 29, 2011, 01:48:58 PM

If the Jets have Revis and Aso they can bltz on every down and do so with out leaving anyone open.

Ocho & Haynesworth to NE is pretty crazy lol. But I don't think Haynesworth will work in NE AT ALL

I don't see Ocho working there either. Brady never worked well with finesse WRs. People knock his lack of supporting cast through the years but every one them were workhorses who fought for their spots and blocked like TEs. Chad is a is a great hands WR who can run precise routes, but Brady could never make precise throws. Randy worked like a dog to make some of those catches. Chad was never the type to do that in the first place.



Kurt Warner really helped Haley look better than he was. Haley couldn't get anything out of Leinart, and I don't think Cassel has the presence of Warner, or the talent around him. Bowe and Breaston are not Fitzsz and Bolden. Lucky for theChiefs that the AFC West is as wide open as it gets.

Come on, you were my go-to guy last year on dubcc when it came to the Chiefs.  Are you withdrawing your support since Wiess left?

Offensively, yes. But as long as you got Romeo and it's the AFC West you still gotta chance. No 11-5 this year though, but 9-7 might be enough to win the division, and if they play a strong run first system they can get to 9-7.


So you predict the Chief offense will rank somewhere in the top half of the league or somewhere in the bottom half?  Because I think they could be a top 5-10 offense this year.   Tight End Tony Moeki is an emerging star in the league, Matt Cassel and Dwayne Bowe went to the Pro Bowl last year, Jamal Charles is arguably the best running back in all of football, and first round draft pick Jonathon Baldwin and free agent Steve Breaston make it impossible for the defense to stack the line on Charles.  Also, we have an emerging X-Factor in Dexter McCluster.



...btw, Shallow.  KC has been taking special note of Tyler Thigpen signing with your Bills.  He's a talented young kid, who had some surprising success as a first year starter under Chan Gailey here in KC.  He's been a back-up in Miami, but now that he's reunited with Chan, he could be a huge unkown X-factor in Buffalo.  Just keep an eye on that.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 29, 2011, 03:13:41 PM
In a matter of hours we've gone from the favorite to land Nnamdi to "out of the race". Motherfucker.

Cromartie better resign.

Congrats to the Eagles; they definitely got him in the bag.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on July 29, 2011, 03:26:06 PM
Wow, aso was using the jets obviously. I'm kinda choked he held our team hostage like that. Oh well, we can move on now and sign some other players. I'm not huge on cro.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 29, 2011, 03:27:01 PM
Eagles. 5 years. 60 million. Fucking Aso.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Lunatic on July 29, 2011, 09:53:21 PM
Wow. Philly have had a great offseason. They got DRC & and 2nd rounder basically for free, because they dealt backup QB Kolb for that and immediately replaced him with Vince Young. Now they go out and sign Aso  :o  There top CB Asante Samuel just went to 3rd string  :D Rumors say they're gonna' deal him (owed 9mil this year, with DRC & Aso being better corners anyways).

They got the best DLine coach in football in Jim Washburn. I don't like the contract they gave Jason Babin who has 1 good year (this past year) under his belt in a 7+ year career but that was under the coaching of Washburn in Tennessee, so they may actually find a repeat of production by Babin (12.5 sacks last year).
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 29, 2011, 09:55:15 PM
Chill. I'd take Asante over DRC anyday.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Lunatic on July 29, 2011, 10:47:03 PM
Chill. I'd take Asante over DRC anyday.
DRC is much younger and cheaper contract. I'll take DRC right now.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 29, 2011, 11:04:59 PM
Chill. I'd take Asante over DRC anyday.
DRC is much younger and cheaper contract. I'll take DRC right now.

Yeah. But now that you have them both & have to play one more than the other, I'd play Asante. For this season anyway.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Lunatic on July 30, 2011, 11:27:43 PM
^ I think they are going to unload Asante.

Titans made a good move today signing Barrett Ruud
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: BiggSadot on July 31, 2011, 09:27:01 AM
So Luna whats the outlook for our Titans this year IYO. Never seen Ruud play but Ive heard good things about him and whats goin on with our WR corps? With Britt gone I have no idea who we have left.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Lunatic on July 31, 2011, 10:09:44 AM
So Luna whats the outlook for our Titans this year IYO. Never seen Ruud play but Ive heard good things about him and whats goin on with our WR corps? With Britt gone I have no idea who we have left.
Britt isn't gone LOL. I still think we're gonna' struggle but we have a fantastic young core of players on both side of the ball.

Locker at QB, CJ at RB, Britt at WR, Stevens/Cook at TE, Jones/Morgan at DE, Ayers & McRath at LB, Verner & Mccourty at CB - all 4 year pros or less.

Ruud is a great signing and should help our LB core.

We still have some serious holes though. I don't like Chris Hope at S and I think DT is a real problem whereas LB is still average.

WR isn't bad. Britt is a true #1 and Washington is a solid #2. D Williams showed promise last year as a rookie and I think can have a great year as the #3. Mariaini should play some time in the slot as he has fantastic speed and hands. The front office has talked about adding a veteran WR (Derrick Mason possibly).

I think will be 7-9 or 8-8 but the future is bright.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 31, 2011, 10:33:03 AM
Plax to the Jets? Looks like we're not resigning Braylon. Oh well. Just give me Cromartie.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Lunatic on July 31, 2011, 10:40:26 AM
Plax to the Jets? Looks like we're not resigning Braylon. Oh well. Just give me Cromartie.
Interesting to see how Plax does, and where Braylon goes.

Who's the 2nd CB if Cromartie doesn't return?
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 31, 2011, 11:57:52 AM
Plax to the Jets? Looks like we're not resigning Braylon. Oh well. Just give me Cromartie.
Interesting to see how Plax does, and where Braylon goes.

Who's the 2nd CB if Cromartie doesn't return?

Kyle Wilson. I love him though.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: DJ SUGAFREE QUIK on July 31, 2011, 11:50:27 PM
If not signing Braylon means we get Aso, I'm straight.

Haynesworth to the Pats...great move; but not for me.
1st of all the Jets didn't need Aso anyway.  More offense was what they needed.  Don't go the route of them other NY teams, the Yankees, Rangers & Bricks who need every single player to play the game on their team.  But it was stupid that Aso went to the overrated Eagles.  He wanted to get seriously paid, shoulda went to Tampa Bay & have a chance for a SB.  They won in 2003.  Had a winning record last year also.  Eagles, they'll never win anything!  Unless they run the ball more but flat out refuse to, which i've been saying since 2003.  But everything to the minds of most eagles fans was McNabb's fault  >:(

Moves like this is why the Tradeskins as a franchise are rated 121 out of 122.  They were doing good in the draft & trading down, not overspending on free agents like they've done since 2000.  If they wanted to really punish Fat Assbert, they shoulda traded him to the Bungholes, not the Ingratriots & reward him.  Yes they have a 4-3 defense but a place the elite don't wanna go to.  And speaking of the Bungholes, I swear Dyke Clown is the DUMBEST ASS IN CAPTIVITY!  He refuses to trade Carson for draft picks, but he gives away OchoFucko to the Ingratriots for low round picks 5th & 6th :o  Raiders did equally bad by trading Moss there in 2007 but got a 4th round pick.  He coulda traded OchoFucko to the tradeskins for 2 1st round picks in 2008.  Chad needed to go cause his cocky acts were more important than winning games, he acts like an N-word but never broke the law but gets traded.  But Cedric Benson constantly breaks the law & gets resigned.  Oh yeah, he should be banned 4 life from the state of Texas since he can't make it as a civil human being. 
   But whose stupider, Dyke Clown or the sheep who still keep going to Paul Brown stadium & filling the place up & accepting 20 years of ineptitude?  Stuff like this is why having no nfl team in L.A. is better  :) ;)
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Lunatic on August 01, 2011, 09:39:53 AM
^ The Bengals owner is an idiot indeed, but I kinda like the hard ball stance they took with Palmer. Let it be a lesson to all spoiled players who are used to getting there demands met.

Jets resign Cromartie
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 01, 2011, 10:39:31 AM
4 years, 32 million. I dig. 8)

In related NFL news, Randy Moss retires. :-\
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Lunatic on August 01, 2011, 10:41:12 AM
In related NFL news, Randy Moss retires. :-\
I bet there wasn't much of a market for him. They said he was in "freakishly good shape" and now he retires? I bet he only got offers from teams like Bengals, Bills, Browns, etc.

Randy Moss retires a Titan  :D
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Shallow on August 01, 2011, 06:48:54 PM

If the Jets have Revis and Aso they can bltz on every down and do so with out leaving anyone open.

Ocho & Haynesworth to NE is pretty crazy lol. But I don't think Haynesworth will work in NE AT ALL

I don't see Ocho working there either. Brady never worked well with finesse WRs. People knock his lack of supporting cast through the years but every one them were workhorses who fought for their spots and blocked like TEs. Chad is a is a great hands WR who can run precise routes, but Brady could never make precise throws. Randy worked like a dog to make some of those catches. Chad was never the type to do that in the first place.



Kurt Warner really helped Haley look better than he was. Haley couldn't get anything out of Leinart, and I don't think Cassel has the presence of Warner, or the talent around him. Bowe and Breaston are not Fitzsz and Bolden. Lucky for theChiefs that the AFC West is as wide open as it gets.

Come on, you were my go-to guy last year on dubcc when it came to the Chiefs.  Are you withdrawing your support since Wiess left?

Offensively, yes. But as long as you got Romeo and it's the AFC West you still gotta chance. No 11-5 this year though, but 9-7 might be enough to win the division, and if they play a strong run first system they can get to 9-7.


So you predict the Chief offense will rank somewhere in the top half of the league or somewhere in the bottom half?  Because I think they could be a top 5-10 offense this year.   Tight End Tony Moeki is an emerging star in the league, Matt Cassel and Dwayne Bowe went to the Pro Bowl last year, Jamal Charles is arguably the best running back in all of football, and first round draft pick Jonathon Baldwin and free agent Steve Breaston make it impossible for the defense to stack the line on Charles.  Also, we have an emerging X-Factor in Dexter McCluster.



...btw, Shallow.  KC has been taking special note of Tyler Thigpen signing with your Bills.  He's a talented young kid, who had some surprising success as a first year starter under Chan Gailey here in KC.  He's been a back-up in Miami, but now that he's reunited with Chan, he could be a huge unkown X-factor in Buffalo.  Just keep an eye on that.


Haley is going to run that offense into the ground. He simply doesn't know when to make thr right call and needs a head coach to keep him in line. He may be a great skills coach for WRs, I don't know, but he showed me nothing as OC with out WIES for KC in 09 and I expect it to be like that for 2011.

As for Thigpen; I still say Fitz is our guy.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 02, 2011, 09:08:13 PM
Seahawks sign Zach Miller; 5 years - 34 million.

They should just tank, 0-16 & draft Andrew Luck.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Lunatic on August 02, 2011, 09:26:34 PM
^ Rams gonna start running that division

Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 02, 2011, 09:48:24 PM
^ Rams gonna start running that division



Rams have that division locked up this year.

But Andrew Luck in Seattle & it could go the other way lol.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Shallow on August 04, 2011, 06:19:05 AM
^ Rams gonna start running that division



Rams have that division locked up this year.

But Andrew Luck in Seattle & it could go the other way lol.

No way is Seattle going to do that bad this year to get Luck. It's going to be between Denver, SF, Carolina, Miami, or Cinci.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Lunatic on August 06, 2011, 01:03:50 PM
I think Cincinnati will be the worst team in the league.

Jets sign Derrick Mason to a 1 year deal. Great signing for the Jets. I'd hoped he'd come back to TN, but not surprised he picked the Jets at his age.

I wouldn't mind if the Titans grab Cotchery
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 06, 2011, 01:18:10 PM
Cotchery was so great. Most underrated wide receiver in the NFL. Gunna miss him.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Lunatic on August 06, 2011, 02:13:24 PM
LOL at our CB Cortland Finnegan walking out on the team today due to a contract dispute. He's scheduled to make 3.3 million this year LOL. You've got to be kidding me! He's a good player but has been on the down slide since 2008 and signed this contract 2 years ago.

Last year was probably his worst as a starter and he's looking for an extension/raise while making 3.3 mil?!?

We've got two GREAT young corners in Verner & Mccourty. If Finny wants to be a bitch, he can stay home while these two guys start.

My only concern is depth without Finny. With him, we have 3 great corners, without him, we have no depth.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on August 07, 2011, 01:14:32 AM
Where do the Jets get all this money to sign any and everybody?  Doesn't seem fair... isn't there a salary cap?
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on August 07, 2011, 01:19:12 AM
Update on the Chiefs free agency moves:  

Key Additions:

Steve Breston-  reunited with his former offensive coordinator Todd Haley, fills a huge need in KC
Kelley Greg-  Veteran defensive linemen that helped make Baltimore the powerful defense that they were.  Fills another huge need at D-Line for the Chiefs
Silas-  Linebacker and special teams specialist from San Diego.  Don't know much about him...

Resigned one of their own:

Tamba Hali-  The Chiefs resigned one of their own free agents, Taba Hali to a monster contract, something like 30 million of it is gauranteed.  But I'd argue he is one of the top 10 defensive players in the whole league.  
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Shallow on August 07, 2011, 12:31:17 PM
Update on the Chiefs free agency moves:  

Key Additions:

Steve Breston-  reunited with his former offensive coordinator Todd Haley, fills a huge need in KC
Kelley Greg-  Veteran defensive linemen that helped make Baltimore the powerful defense that they were.  Fills another huge need at D-Line for the Chiefs
Silas-  Linebacker and special teams specialist from San Diego.  Don't know much about him...

Resigned one of their own:

Tamba Hali-  The Chiefs resigned one of their own free agents, Taba Hali to a monster contract, something like 30 million of it is gauranteed.  But I'd argue he is one of the top 10 defensive players in the whole league.  



I simply don't think Haley can run his offense with that team. I say bring Marty back and let him HC then try and get McDaniels to get out of CSt Louis and back with Cassel. That team would be AFC West Champ for the next 4 years.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Lunatic on August 07, 2011, 12:41:31 PM
Titans Free Agency:

QB - Matt Hasselbeck - The veteran QB we needed and went out and got. Also good friends with Jake Locker, excited to mentor him.
TE - Daniel Graham - Veteran TE that was a captain on the Patriots super bowl team. A leader in the locker room and a great blocking guy. A good depth signing.
DT - Shaun Smith - A nasty 300+ pound run stuffer in the middle. Stats don't impress, but Chiefs fans were pissed to lose him. I think he may surprise.
MLB - Barrett Ruud - Guy had 160+ tackles last year. A smart, instinctive player who is great in coverage. Just what we needed to cover TE's. (we were awful there last year)
CB - Frank Walker - A special teams/depth guy.

Re-Signings:
DE - Dave Ball - Had 7 sacks last year. Gonna be great in our DE rotation.
DE - Jacob Ford - Same situation as Ball. Gonna be a really good depth guy for us.
FB - Ahmard Hall - CJ likes to have this guy blocking for him.
OL - Leroy Harris - Really glad we retained him. He's key to our blocking.

We're still in the market for a vet WR but I don't think it's necessary at all. I'll be happy if we get one, but still content if we don't.

Let's shift attention to CJ's contract situation
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on August 07, 2011, 02:16:35 PM
Where do the Jets get all this money to sign any and everybody?  Doesn't seem fair... isn't there a salary cap?
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on August 07, 2011, 02:20:03 PM

I simply don't think Haley can run his offense with that team. I say bring Marty back and let him HC then try and get McDaniels to get out of CSt Louis and back with Cassel. That team would be AFC West Champ for the next 4 years.


Marty is my all-time favorite head coach, it's a shame no team has been trying to pick him up.  He ended up going to coach for some for some minor league football team this year. 

...as for Haley, don't underestimate him.  The trinity of owner Clark Hunt, GM Scott Piloli, and HC Todd Haley, are determined to make the Chiefs into a carbon copy of the Patriots.  So far they have made a lot of progress towards that end, in just a short time.  Taking nothing away from what Charlie Wiess did, I think with the addition of Breston the Chiefs will be a better offense this year; but because of the difficulty of schedule, their record may not reflect the improvement.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on August 07, 2011, 02:46:48 PM
Where do the Jets get all this money to sign any and everybody?  Doesn't seem fair... isn't there a salary cap?

The jets gm is a cap genius. Might be the best in the league. He's very clever with contracts
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on August 07, 2011, 03:04:45 PM
Where do the Jets get all this money to sign any and everybody?  Doesn't seem fair... isn't there a salary cap?

The jets gm is a cap genius. Might be the best in the league. He's very clever with contracts

he must be.. I'd like to see it on paper how he is fitting all those fat contracts under the margin
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Shallow on August 07, 2011, 03:12:30 PM

I simply don't think Haley can run his offense with that team. I say bring Marty back and let him HC then try and get McDaniels to get out of CSt Louis and back with Cassel. That team would be AFC West Champ for the next 4 years.


Marty is my all-time favorite head coach, it's a shame no team has been trying to pick him up.  He ended up going to coach for some for some minor league football team this year. 

...as for Haley, don't underestimate him.  The trinity of owner Clark Hunt, GM Scott Piloli, and HC Todd Haley, are determined to make the Chiefs into a carbon copy of the Patriots.  So far they have made a lot of progress towards that end, in just a short time.  Taking nothing away from what Charlie Wiess did, I think with the addition of Breston the Chiefs will be a better offense this year; but because of the difficulty of schedule, their record may not reflect the improvement.

Haley's problem is his lack of structure, and it was always there for him. He gets caught up in the moment and goes for it on 4th down when he shouldn't and noy go for it when he should, and he does it all the time. There was no coaching that would have made the Chiefs beat the Ravens last year though. But if Charles simply didn't fumble the Chiefs may have went pretty far last year.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on August 07, 2011, 05:31:48 PM


Haley's problem is his lack of structure, and it was always there for him. He gets caught up in the moment and goes for it on 4th down when he shouldn't and noy go for it when he should, and he does it all the time. There was no coaching that would have made the Chiefs beat the Ravens last year though. But if Charles simply didn't fumble the Chiefs may have went pretty far last year.


I'm still pissed about that one play where the fatass Ravens linemen came up behind Charles and fell on him with all his weight, forcing Charles to fumble the ball and injuring him for the rest of the game.  Before that the Chiefs had the lead, the momentum, had the Ravens frustrated, and Charles was about to have a monster day.  The Chiefs were on a roll, and that play changed everything.

As for Haley he does get emotional and do stupid things.  But this guy is determined to win, and they will get it right.  See, at least Haley is smart.  Herm was cool as the other side of the pillow, even when the Chiefs were getting destroyed Herm Edwards always stayed positive and focused.  But then again, the team sucked ass with Herm.  Haley is a much brighter head coach then Herm, so what if his emotions get in the way every now and then.   
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Lunatic on August 07, 2011, 08:39:07 PM
Infinite, can you give me more insight on DT Shaun Smith? Titans signed him away from the Chiefs. At a glance, his numbers don't jump out at you, but I've heard some pretty big things. I visited a Chiefs message board and fans seemed angry to lose him. They said he's a BIG guy in the middle whose an absolute run stuffer.

What's your take?
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on August 07, 2011, 08:42:58 PM
Jets are actually about ten million under the cap this season
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on August 07, 2011, 11:02:36 PM
Infinite, can you give me more insight on DT Shaun Smith? Titans signed him away from the Chiefs. At a glance, his numbers don't jump out at you, but I've heard some pretty big things. I visited a Chiefs message board and fans seemed angry to lose him. They said he's a BIG guy in the middle whose an absolute run stuffer.

What's your take?
You asked the right person, I can tell you a lot... he was a popular player here.   The Chiefs wanted to resign him.  

-He's a classic over-achiever.  He beat out a young, 3rd year guy (Tyson Jackson) at his spot on the D-line who was signed to a $60 Million Dollar contract!   While Sean Smith was barely even signed for $1 Million when he was hear with the Chiefs.  So basically all the cards were stacked against him being a starter when he came here, and yet he consistently over-achieved and outperformed higher paid competition.  Tyson Jackson wasn't the only player he beat out, there were other better paid players in the mix who couldn't get onto the field cause Sean Smith was holding it down!

-His numbers on tackles should be pretty good.  Without looking at anything, I seem to remember him being a guy who had a knack for the ball and was in on most plays.  The defense the Chiefs run just asks the D-line to hold their position, so they aren't really allowed to go after plays, but still Sean Smith managed to hold his position and still make plays.

-Also, he is a nasty competitor.  I'm surprised you haven't heard the stories of him getting fined for going after guys balls at the bottom of the pile.  He's that type of dude that does crazy shit like that to get in the head of the other team and take them off their game.  He's a nasty player and whatever he lacks in talent he will make up for in downright nastiness.

-You got a player you will not be dissapointed with.  He will find a way to do his job no matter what it takes.   Not a superstar talent-wise, but definitely a dependable guy you want down in the trenches of a tough game.

-Also a good locker room guy, kind of a prankster in the clubhouse, and good for interviews.  Fans and teammates love the guy, and coaches love him too.  He's not about his own numbers, but sacrificing for his team and doing what it takes to win.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: DJ SUGAFREE QUIK on August 07, 2011, 11:16:20 PM
Where do the Jets get all this money to sign any and everybody?  Doesn't seem fair... isn't there a salary cap?
Some might say the same thing about the eagles.  And Woody Johnson is a big time billionaire.

I simply don't think Haley can run his offense with that team. I say bring Marty back and let him HC then try and get McDaniels to get out of CSt Louis and back with Cassel. That team would be AFC West Champ for the next 4 years.


Marty is my all-time favorite head coach, it's a shame no team has been trying to pick him up.  He ended up going to coach for some for some minor league football team this year. 
Marty does NOT win in the playoffs that's why no nfl team is picking him up.  You got Jerry Springer Jones left to hire him.  Marty should try the minor leagues or college, maybe he'll have a chance of winning a championship there. 
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Lunatic on August 08, 2011, 09:07:39 AM
Infinite, can you give me more insight on DT Shaun Smith? Titans signed him away from the Chiefs. At a glance, his numbers don't jump out at you, but I've heard some pretty big things. I visited a Chiefs message board and fans seemed angry to lose him. They said he's a BIG guy in the middle whose an absolute run stuffer.

What's your take?
You asked the right person, I can tell you a lot... he was a popular player here.   The Chiefs wanted to resign him.  

-He's a classic over-achiever.  He beat out a young, 3rd year guy (Tyson Jackson) at his spot on the D-line who was signed to a $60 Million Dollar contract!   While Sean Smith was barely even signed for $1 Million when he was hear with the Chiefs.  So basically all the cards were stacked against him being a starter when he came here, and yet he consistently over-achieved and outperformed higher paid competition.  Tyson Jackson wasn't the only player he beat out, there were other better paid players in the mix who couldn't get onto the field cause Sean Smith was holding it down!

-His numbers on tackles should be pretty good.  Without looking at anything, I seem to remember him being a guy who had a knack for the ball and was in on most plays.  The defense the Chiefs run just asks the D-line to hold their position, so they aren't really allowed to go after plays, but still Sean Smith managed to hold his position and still make plays.

-Also, he is a nasty competitor.  I'm surprised you haven't heard the stories of him getting fined for going after guys balls at the bottom of the pile.  He's that type of dude that does crazy shit like that to get in the head of the other team and take them off their game.  He's a nasty player and whatever he lacks in talent he will make up for in downright nastiness.

-You got a player you will not be dissapointed with.  He will find a way to do his job no matter what it takes.   Not a superstar talent-wise, but definitely a dependable guy you want down in the trenches of a tough game.

-Also a good locker room guy, kind of a prankster in the clubhouse, and good for interviews.  Fans and teammates love the guy, and coaches love him too.  He's not about his own numbers, but sacrificing for his team and doing what it takes to win.
LOL I did hear about that ball grabbing.. Just didn't care to mention it..

He's a BIG BOY.. Saw a pic of him in camp.. Looks like a beast..

Real excited to have him on our D-Line! He's gonna start 100%.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on August 08, 2011, 12:30:00 PM

LOL I did hear about that ball grabbing.. Just didn't care to mention it..

He's a BIG BOY.. Saw a pic of him in camp.. Looks like a beast..

Real excited to have him on our D-Line! He's gonna start 100%.


Yeah, keep me posted on how he does.  But I really have no doubts.  Even injuries, he's the type of guy who would play through it.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Lunatic on August 08, 2011, 04:50:35 PM
^ Will do..
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on August 08, 2011, 05:46:57 PM
i miss Cotchery :( :'(
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 09, 2011, 01:24:40 AM
i miss Cotchery :( :'(
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: DJ SUGAFREE QUIK on August 09, 2011, 05:49:18 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/conversations/_/id/6848263/channing-crowder-announces-retirement-radio-show

And this just in an hour ago, the Joakim Noah of the Nfl[1 of the ugliest people in sports] Channing Crowder chose to retire.  Good thing, he's no longer on the fish.  Bad thing, I wish the fish traded him to a sorry team who's fans boo the home team when they suck & underperform.  Crowder's the same fool who got mad when fish fans booed the team cause they lost to DIETROIT.

Real Talk here: If you got a double digit lead after 3 quarters on a team who had 2 periods of 20+ road losses in a row this century & still lose....YOU DESERVE TO GET BOOED!  Plain & simple!  Miami is not the only city that boos toe home team when they suck.  Idiot football fans are acting like that now.  I'm surprised he didn't go to the Fraudgers, he & Chad Ochofucko would be perfect there since they both love 2 run their mouths.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: white Boy on August 12, 2011, 09:21:45 PM
eagles and patriots rematch superbowl. book it.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 12, 2011, 11:46:50 PM
^You honestly might not be off.

Pats are looking sick. & after the Eagles signed Steve Smith...it's not looking good for Football.

LeBron James may have ruined all sports lol.
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Lunatic on August 14, 2011, 12:01:37 AM
Steve Smith is done. Eagles made some sick signings though.

Titans looked awesome today in preseason  ;D

my boy Locker  8)
Title: Re: 2011 NFL free agency and trade thread
Post by: Shallow on August 15, 2011, 07:41:11 PM
The NFL isn't the NBA. You can't just throw a bunch of stars together and expect magic. Green Bay still eats Philly up this year in the playoffs, if they face eachother. And the Pats don't make it past the divisional round.