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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on July 31, 2011, 07:10:09 AM
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It wasn't the only reason Dre left. But Dre did say in an interview that one of the reasons he left was, "it came to the point where I would show up to work and a new nigger would be in face like, yo, I just signed to the label". And I'd be like, "Nigga, I don't know you!".
My guess is M.C. Hammer. Because what the hell was Suge thinking signing that dude? Also, it could of been O.F.T.B. as well. Because they were one of the only other new acts that came around the time Dre started to become disenchanted.
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Unquestionably 2Pac. Dre was always on good terms with Interscope, as evident today when you see where he is compared to Suge/Death Row. Dre was already bothered by the trouble surrounding his label, and never wanted 2Pac on Death Row due to the trouble surrounding him, then MC Hammer being the final nail in the coffin
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"fuck it, im outta here" as soon as he caught wind of the pac-singnin. in the studio wit Budda when he heard the news. some interview wit Budda (or maybe Melman) in "scratch" magazine
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It was 2pac that made Dre leave. Once he got signed it was a wrap. They brung Hammer on board to be able to sell out big venues....which I thought was a smart move..and Hammer and Suge had been cool for years 8)
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2Pac
O.F.T.B.
Any act Suge brought into the picture...
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I'd say it wasn't any one act Suge signed that caused it, but a combination of acts and Suge's antics, because the whole label was based on Dre scouting the talent and Suge managing the background stuff. When Suge started acting like an attention seeking dick and signing his own acts without consulting the head of the musical output (Dre), that was obviously going to piss Dre off...
and let's be honest, apart from 2Pac Suge didn't really find anyone on anywhere near the level of Dre's finding (Snoop, Daz, Kurupt, Rage, RBX, Nate, Jewell, Sam Sneed).
Suge ruined Death Row himself.
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i think Dre just wanted out when DR became more famous for what they did(beating people up, threatening people eyc) rather then the music they did. when the bullshit started overshadowing the music i think it became too much for Dre because Dre isnīt a gangster and i donīt think he enjoyed all of the violence that all of the people that werenīt artists brought with them, and when Suge started involving himself with the music i think it was a wrap(the biggest mistake Sugeīs ever made is making himself the executive producer of DR albums). and Tupac brought even more drama and BS with him so i guess the signing of Tupac is the signing that made Dre leave.
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Its 2011 for fuck sake. And you muthafuckas are still talking about shit in the 90's thats completely irrelevant
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fuk suge knight n dead hoe Real SPit bitch!
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Its 2011 for fuck sake. And you muthafuckas are still talking about shit in the 90's thats completely irrelevant
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Y'all need to
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Its 2011 for fuck sake. And you muthafuckas are still talking about shit in the 90's thats completely irrelevant
i know what your name means and that makes you a massive fucking hypocrite
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Its 2011 for fuck sake. And you muthafuckas are still talking about shit in the 90's thats completely irrelevant
i know what your name means and that makes you a massive fucking hypocrite
What does it mean.
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Its 2011 for fuck sake. And you muthafuckas are still talking about shit in the 90's thats completely irrelevant
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Its 2011 for fuck sake. And you muthafuckas are still talking about shit in the 90's thats completely irrelevant
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Fresh!!! For 1990! YOUU SUCKEERS!!
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who coined the classic quote?
first one to tell me, will get 1 prop (*rumbling noise from a running Will_B*)
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Its 2011 for fuck sake. And you muthafuckas are still talking about shit in the 90's thats completely irrelevant
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Fresh!!! For 1990! YOUU SUCKEERS!!
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who coined the classic quote?
first one to tell me, will get 1 prop (*rumbling noise from a running Will_B*)
The Blastmaster Krs-One
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I'd say it wasn't any one act Suge signed that caused it, but a combination of acts and Suge's antics, because the whole label was based on Dre scouting the talent and Suge managing the background stuff. When Suge started acting like an attention seeking dick and signing his own acts without consulting the head of the musical output (Dre), that was obviously going to piss Dre off...
and let's be honest, apart from 2Pac Suge didn't really find anyone on anywhere near the level of Dre's finding (Snoop, Daz, Kurupt, Rage, RBX, Nate, Jewell, Sam Sneed).
Suge ruined Death Row himself.
real talk
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I'd say it wasn't any one act Suge signed that caused it, but a combination of acts and Suge's antics, because the whole label was based on Dre scouting the talent and Suge managing the background stuff. When Suge started acting like an attention seeking dick and signing his own acts without consulting the head of the musical output (Dre), that was obviously going to piss Dre off...
and let's be honest, apart from 2Pac Suge didn't really find anyone on anywhere near the level of Dre's finding (Snoop, Daz, Kurupt, Rage, RBX, Nate, Jewell, Sam Sneed).
Suge ruined Death Row himself.
I think that was part of what sparked the whole thing between Dre and Suge. I truly believe that Dre's departure from Death Row was due to several other issues along with the issue of Suge signing artist without consulting with Dre. At that time, Suge was simply taking over the company more and more. I think Dre got tired of that along with the fact that too much non-sense was going on like those beatdowns. I don't think 2Pac getting signed to the label was the issue. Dre was cool with 2Pac before he was even signed to Death Row. So, I don't think that was the problem. You also have to look at where Dre wanted to take Death Row as a company and where he wanted to go with Death Row on the music side also. Suge brought the Above The Rim project to the table. Dre contributed little to that project. That was Suge's project. Suge brought damn near brought the second half of that Murder Was The Case soundtrack. The first part was Dr. Dre's part of it, if you really wanna look at it. Dre contributed to all of those tracks on the first half of that soundtrack, up to "Who Got Some Gangsta Shit" and he was featured on Sam's track. Dre mixed Dogg Food and was originally part of the production on that album, to some degree his production was still on there despite it all. I think Dre's direction was different from Suge's as far as the company is concern.
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2Pac was the issue...
Dre as much as he respected his work ability in the studio, didn't really like the idea of someone with as much issues and drama as 2Pac coming on board to a label that he was already trying to tolerate as it was.
remember 2Pac was just released from prison after serving a term for sexual assualt, already on the news for violence, had political figures speak up against him, had been shot, and had a huge hatred for Bad Boy, ready to be unleashed on whatever label would have him. Interscope wern't wanting him, or pretty much any record labe. He was a liability for anyone. You'd sign him, and end up having to bail him out, spent tens of thousands at a time on legal fee's, and have more waiting on the mountain of people ready to sue that hot head. It was all Suge desperate as he had been for years prior to 95 to get him on Death Row, no one else. At the time (95) 2Pac was the devil everywhere. Worse than Chris Brown ever was after the Rihanna situation, so when MTV and other places announced the news that 2Pac was now on Death Row, it just made Death Row look like a house for all the devils and bad guys.
Dre helped him out more than any other artist. 2-3 songs, 2 music videos, a lot of promo for the All Eyez on me album on MTV together, and other venues. He did a lot more than the previous year. But 2Pac was a ticking time bomb. He created the Hit 'Em Up track, and expected everyone on the label just to lay down and hate/diss whoever he didn't like, and took control of the studio, ordering people around, acting like head producer himself. & look what happened months later. He was shot dead due to beating on a crip gang member. I think Dre made the right choice
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I'd say it wasn't any one act Suge signed that caused it, but a combination of acts and Suge's antics, because the whole label was based on Dre scouting the talent and Suge managing the background stuff. When Suge started acting like an attention seeking dick and signing his own acts without consulting the head of the musical output (Dre), that was obviously going to piss Dre off...
and let's be honest, apart from 2Pac Suge didn't really find anyone on anywhere near the level of Dre's finding (Snoop, Daz, Kurupt, Rage, RBX, Nate, Jewell, Sam Sneed).
Suge ruined Death Row himself.
real talk
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It was 2pac that made Dre leave. Once he got signed it was a wrap. They brung Hammer on board to be able to sell out big venues....which I thought was a smart move..and Hammer and Suge had been cool for years 8)
Wrong. They brought Hammer on for PR reasons. This was after Time Warner dropped Interscope and you had Delores Tucker and Bob Dole trying to censor gangsta rap. Hammer was not selling any major venue out in 1996.
The event that convinced Dre to leave the label was seeing an engineer get beat down for rewinding a track too far. That was a bigger reason than any of the newer cats Suge was signing that were blood affiliated (RedRum781, OFTB, Young Soldierz, etc.) begging Dre for tracks. Keep in mind by 95-96 Dre wasn't using their studio anymore since he had one at his place.
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I think Daz musta had a small part aswell, prob not tryna to make Dre leave but sparking the whole credit stealing thing was one of the reasons.
Also 2pac said in an interview that "other niggas was producin shit and Dre was takin credit", and producer Laylaw said that he produced Cali Love remix and Dre took credit and when Laylaw told 2pac this 2pac said that he (2pac) was leaving Deathrow anyway.
What im sayin is if 2pac was thinkin about leaving Deathrow whilst Dre was still there, why was he (2pac) so bothered if Dre was doin whatever. What if 2pac DID leave when Dre was still there. Dre might have not left after that. Makes you wonder ???
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It was 2pac that made Dre leave. Once he got signed it was a wrap. They brung Hammer on board to be able to sell out big venues....which I thought was a smart move..and Hammer and Suge had been cool for years 8)
Sell out big venues? Lol, and Dre, Snoop and Pac couldn't?
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Hammer had mainstream appeal cause he wasnt into smoking weed and talking about bitches....so he could sell out a bigger venue than some hoodrats like snoop and dre.
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Back then, it wasn't like how it is now. Now you can get Game going all over Europe, Eminem selling out football arena's, but back then (even for the top players in Hip Hop), if it wern't award shows, MTV's summer party, or some other shared setting, then it was their own little halls with a few hundred- 1000 for the most part, and typically region spesific for West Coast artists on top of their game. I guess MC Hammer had more pop appeal, and a name that could go through out the US
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Back then, it wasn't like how it is now. Now you can get Game going all over Europe, Eminem selling out football arena's, but back then (even for the top players in Hip Hop), if it wern't award shows, MTV's summer party, or some other shared setting, then it was their own little halls with a few hundred- 1000 for the most part, and typically region spesific for West Coast artists on top of their game. I guess MC Hammer had more pop appeal, and a name that could go through out the US
Hammer was nowhere close to selling out arenas at that time. He was looked at like a joke going back to '94 because he changed up his whole image from Pop Rapper to Gangsta rapper to try to sell records. Nobody was fooled and by this time, he was bankrupt. He was a tax write off for Suge because of his work with charities.
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I don't think that it was, but I don't/can't disagree with you. MC Hammer was clearly a novelty act for the label, and his bankruptcy situation would work for Suge, but at the same time, they had a huge pop rap act on their roster with his contacts, and good relationships in the business.. They were planning on getting Run DMC on board for the Death Row East thing they had. It was because of MC Hammer, and him inviting them down to Vegas to meet Suge, unfortunately 2Pac had been shot, so I guess that kinda blew that idea out.
Say what you want about Hammer's image, but I bet you he could have layed out a lot of people on Tha Row that stepped out of line
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2pac
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"fuck it, im outta here" as soon as he caught wind of the pac-singnin. in the studio wit Budda when he heard the news. some interview wit Budda (or maybe Melman) in "scratch" magazine
damn.. that's interesting... did Buddha or Mel-Man really say that? Then why did Dre still record a couple tracks and video's for All Eyes On Me?
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Pac without a doubt. Too much chaos.
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"fuck it, im outta here" as soon as he caught wind of the pac-singnin. in the studio wit Budda when he heard the news. some interview wit Budda (or maybe Melman) in "scratch" magazine
damn.. that's interesting... did Buddha or Mel-Man really say that? Then why did Dre still record a couple tracks and video's for All Eyes On Me?
Just like being at work and having to work on projects, or quality improvement plans, or starting up a new contract. You can wind up having to work with people you don't like, for the growth of the business/profit. Business goals will always take precedence
He would work with him, and didn't really hate 2Pac himself, just the drama that surrounded him, and 2Pac had plenty of that to more than make up for every artist over there at that time. Dre was already annoyed before 2Pac's arrival, at Daz's 'hardman act' in the studio, and having his street buddy's bully around the board operators and Engineers. One I believe was Rob Paustian, who I don't think ever worked for Tha Row ever again. He's your typical white glasses wearing dorky engineer that Daz felt more like a man to bully around, and either Daz or one of his associates putting his hands on a female friend of Miche'le's as well, to name a few pretty much forced Dre out of the studio and isolated in his home. Then you've got the Dogg Food problem, and Suge muscling his way in favour of creating Daz into a Dre-like producer with credible a reputation, allowing his circle (Soopafly, Dogg Pound etc.) to get the time while Dre's (Rage, Sam Sneed) fell into the background
That's why Dre has never worked with him since. Then you have 2Pac who was a bit of a bully in the studio himself but in different ways
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Out of Dre's own mouth, he said if he had to point to one incident that led to his departure it was watching an engineer get beat down for rewinding a tape too far. I think in a normal business environment, Pac and Dre could have co-existed but Death Row was going in a new direction and I think Suge saw Dre's disinterest and decided to bring in a replacement. The comment about the artist at the label saying he just got signed, I doubt it was Pac as I'm pretty sure him and Dre had known each other prior to that. There were a number of artists Suge was probably bringing in at that time.
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I think Pac was definitely the nail in the coffin. But I also think artist like The Relativez, OFTB, and the other gansta rappers that were really bangin in the streets played a part in it too.
But when they signed Pac, a guy that was in the news everyday for fighting, guns, rape charges, etc etc etc was it.
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Just like being at work and having to work on projects, or quality improvement plans, or starting up a new contract. You can wind up having to work with people you don't like, for the growth of the business/profit. Business goals will always take precedence
He would work with him, and didn't really hate 2Pac himself, just the drama that surrounded him, and 2Pac had plenty of that to more than make up for every artist over there at that time. Dre was already annoyed before 2Pac's arrival, at Daz's 'hardman act' in the studio, and having his street buddy's bully around the board operators and Engineers. One I believe was Rob Paustian, who I don't think ever worked for Tha Row ever again. He's your typical white glasses wearing dorky engineer that Daz felt more like a man to bully around, and either Daz or one of his associates putting his hands on a female friend of Miche'le's as well, to name a few pretty much forced Dre out of the studio and isolated in his home. Then you've got the Dogg Food problem, and Suge muscling his way in favour of creating Daz into a Dre-like producer with credible a reputation, allowing his circle (Soopafly, Dogg Pound etc.) to get the time while Dre's (Rage, Sam Sneed) fell into the background
That's why Dre has never worked with him since. Then you have 2Pac who was a bit of a bully in the studio himself but in different ways
I don't know about all of that... because Dre was always really proud of the Dogg Pound and the success the Dogg Pound was having. They were one of Dre's creations. Dre had a heavy hand in the Dogg Food album. He mixed damn near every track on that album. He appeared in their video's. He bigged them up and advertised for their album in many interviews.
The way I see it the Daz/Dre beef really only became an issue after Dre left Death Row. Now does anybody have any quotes proving it was actually Daz who was involved in beating up engineers and bullying around the studio? Cause otherwise I don't really see it going down like that. I see that as Suge's henchmen hanging around the studio creating that environment.
...now as for Pac's signing being the big reason why Dre left, I don't see that as being the case either. You can see the happiness and pride in Dre at the recording for 2pac's "California Love" video.
I think that it was the signing of Pac that gave Suge a huge ego. Caused Suge to sign other acts without Dre's approval, and also lead to Suge creating a Mafia environment around the label; that it was Suge that was instrumental in Dre leaving the label. Not Daz or Pac.
btw... some of it had nothing to do with the environment of Death Row or artists that were on the label at Death Row, and actually had to do with Dre growing up and changing after serving a short stint in jail. If you read the Source article from 96 with him on the cover explaining the issue; he sounds like a man who had looked himself in the mirror and decided it was time to change his life. Maybe a younger version of Dre would of been okay with what was going down at Death Row in summer 1996; but Dre was now growing older and wiser, "Been There/Done That".
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He appeared in their video's.
The only Dogg Pound video he appeared in was "What Would You Do?". He didn't appear in any of the videos for Dogg Food. Again, the reason Dr. Dre himself cited for leaving the label for good was seeing an engineer get beat up for rewinding a tape too far. In 1996 Dre was no longer recording at DR studio's and was working out of his house. He was rarely at their studios to begin with.
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Eazy's death had affected Dre big time aswell.
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Dre was given a choice of walking away or being dragged out of Death Row. Apparently.
He really needs to lie down on a couch, tell his story to a biographer and release a fucking book. Shit would go mega platinum in book sales.
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He appeared in their video's.
The only Dogg Pound video he appeared in was "What Would You Do?". He didn't appear in any of the videos for Dogg Food. Again, the reason Dr. Dre himself cited for leaving the label for good was seeing an engineer get beat up for rewinding a tape too far. In 1996 Dre was no longer recording at DR studio's and was working out of his house. He was rarely at their studios to begin with.
He was also in "Let's Play House"......
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Hammer had mainstream appeal cause he wasnt into smoking weed and talking about bitches....so he could sell out a bigger venue than some hoodrats like snoop and dre.
wtf are you smoking? Hammer could sell out a bigger venue than Dre and Snoop in 96? I don't think so. And even if you believe that, the artists (back then before 360 deals) made most of the money from shows, so the label would not be motivated by that anyway.
Hammer's signing was purely PR, he did lots of charity work and things like that. Tax deduction for the label, etc.
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And yeah I remember Dre saying in his VH1 behind he music that the engineer beat down was basically the last straw. But it was a lot of shit - constant drama, Suge signing acts and getting involved in the music, 2pac, etc.
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Dre was given a choice of walking away or being dragged out of Death Row. Apparently.
He really needs to lie down on a couch, tell his story to a biographer and release a fucking book. Shit would go mega platinum in book sales.
:stop: Muthafuckers don't read. :stop:
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It wasn't the only reason Dre left. But Dre did say in an interview that one of the reasons he left was, "it came to the point where I would show up to work and a new nigger would be in face like, yo, I just signed to the label". And I'd be like, "Nigga, I don't know you!".
My guess is M.C. Hammer. Because what the hell was Suge thinking signing that dude? Also, it could of been O.F.T.B. as well. Because they were one of the only other new acts that came around the time Dre started to become disenchanted.
stopped taking you serious after you posted nigger once and nigga after
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Dre was given a choice of walking away or being dragged out of Death Row. Apparently.
He really needs to lie down on a couch, tell his story to a biographer and release a fucking book. Shit would go mega platinum in book sales.
:stop: Muthafuckers don't read. :stop:
yes they do....you just gotta put the shit on their itablets or whatever
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The writing was on the wall regarding Dre's demise from Death Row long before Pac ever signed and he would have left the label eventually even if Pac never went there. The departure of D.O.C. and RBX after Doggystyle as well as Suge's more hands-on approach on the creative end around the time of "Murder Was The Case" were probably the first warning signs. Pac was the ideal choice for Dre's replacement in a "power struggle". He had a strong work ethic, was willing to ride for Suge, had the artistic leadership quality that would be needed in the wake of Dre's departure, and would be an "artist" as opposed to a 50-50 owner like Dre was.
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He appeared in their video's.
The only Dogg Pound video he appeared in was "What Would You Do?". He didn't appear in any of the videos for Dogg Food. Again, the reason Dr. Dre himself cited for leaving the label for good was seeing an engineer get beat up for rewinding a tape too far. In 1996 Dre was no longer recording at DR studio's and was working out of his house. He was rarely at their studios to begin with.
Dre is on the song "Let's Play House" but your right, he doesn't actually appear in the video. But still, I don't think anyone can deny that Dre fully backed the Dogg Food project. He introduces them on the album and sets things off. Then he also sets off their lead single. And mixed down nearly every track on the album. Dre was fully behind it.
...in fact, I would venture to say that Daz didn't really start beefing with Dre until around the time Snoop left Death Row. Cause remember Daz was Snoop's go-to-guy when Snoop was doing "Midnight Love" and preparing for the release of his third album. Snoop was still keeping it cool with Dre, and the aside from Pac (and the J.Flexx track "Who Been There, Who Done That" off the Greatest Hits album) nobody really dissed Dre candidly. Even Suge was somewhat guarded in his language when dissing Dre while Snoop was still with the label.
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There's surprisingly some really insightful things mentioned in the responses.
When we mention Dre's last days at Death Row we tend to forget that Eazy had just died (GREAT point there. And Dre's legal trouble around that time. Could simply be that Dre grew up and was too mature for all the bullshit going on at the time. But that still goes back to the company itself which Dre clearly no longer felt apart of.
Too bad he didn't take anybody with him to Aftermath. All the breakups lead to us being cheated out of hearing Kurupt the Kingpin over some Dre beats =(
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He appeared in their video's.
The only Dogg Pound video he appeared in was "What Would You Do?". He didn't appear in any of the videos for Dogg Food. Again, the reason Dr. Dre himself cited for leaving the label for good was seeing an engineer get beat up for rewinding a tape too far. In 1996 Dre was no longer recording at DR studio's and was working out of his house. He was rarely at their studios to begin with.
Dre is on the song "Let's Play House" but your right, he doesn't actually appear in the video. But still, I don't think anyone can deny that Dre fully backed the Dogg Food project. He introduces them on the album and sets things off. Then he also sets off their lead single. And mixed down nearly every track on the album. Dre was fully behind it.
Tha Dogg Pound was there at the beginning. It'd be more surprising if he wasn't involved with the album at all than if he was
...in fact, I would venture to say that Daz didn't really start beefing with Dre until around the time Snoop left Death Row. Cause remember Daz was Snoop's go-to-guy when Snoop was doing "Midnight Love" and preparing for the release of his third album. Snoop was still keeping it cool with Dre, and the aside from Pac (and the J.Flexx track "Who Been There, Who Done That" off the Greatest Hits album) nobody really dissed Dre candidly. Even Suge was somewhat guarded in his language when dissing Dre while Snoop was still with the label.
Daz dissed Dre immediately after he left. The OG version of "Me in Your World", which was on the House of Blues DVD, has a line in there about Dre. Snoop dissed Dre on "Freestyle Conversation". Of course we all know about Pac and J-Flexx, so who knows what else is in the vault dissing Dre.
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He appeared in their video's.
The only Dogg Pound video he appeared in was "What Would You Do?". He didn't appear in any of the videos for Dogg Food. Again, the reason Dr. Dre himself cited for leaving the label for good was seeing an engineer get beat up for rewinding a tape too far. In 1996 Dre was no longer recording at DR studio's and was working out of his house. He was rarely at their studios to begin with.
Dre is on the song "Let's Play House" but your right, he doesn't actually appear in the video. But still, I don't think anyone can deny that Dre fully backed the Dogg Food project. He introduces them on the album and sets things off. Then he also sets off their lead single. And mixed down nearly every track on the album. Dre was fully behind it.
Tha Dogg Pound was there at the beginning. It'd be more surprising if he wasn't involved with the album at all than if he was
...in fact, I would venture to say that Daz didn't really start beefing with Dre until around the time Snoop left Death Row. Cause remember Daz was Snoop's go-to-guy when Snoop was doing "Midnight Love" and preparing for the release of his third album. Snoop was still keeping it cool with Dre, and the aside from Pac (and the J.Flexx track "Who Been There, Who Done That" off the Greatest Hits album) nobody really dissed Dre candidly. Even Suge was somewhat guarded in his language when dissing Dre while Snoop was still with the label.
Daz dissed Dre immediately after he left. The OG version of "Me in Your World", which was on the House of Blues DVD, has a line in there about Dre. Snoop dissed Dre on "Freestyle Conversation". Of course we all know about Pac and J-Flexx, so who knows what else is in the vault dissing Dre.
I don't think Snoop dissed Dre there. In fact there's an interview with Snoop on Youtube (where he's promoting Tha Doggfather) where he says he reached out to Dre for production for Tha Doggfather, but Suge told him not to.
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No disrespect, but alot of you kids have no idea what the seen was like back in 94,95,96. Infact if I remember correctly, dre was pretty much done with Death Row by Summer of 95, the last I remember dre doing for death row was promoting California Love on MTV in January of 95...
As for Hammer being signed to Death Row, that was a joke and was DEF not used to sell out Arenas. 2pac, and Snoop Dogg along with Tha Dogg Pound, Tha Luniz (big hit with I got 5 on it at that time) and the others on tour (Jodeci) could do that alone. Hammer was a joke after 1992 and even more so when he released his PUMPS AND A BUMP gangster rap image in 94..
I remember being in Miami and hearing ads on Top 40 radio Power 96 for a 2pac show with Snoop Dogg, Tha Luniz, Jodeci, Uncle Luke being played at the Miami Arena in August of 1995.
I say Dre left because he didnt want to work in that environment with a bunch of low lifes in and out that of the studio that prob had nothing to do with the music, he was over that faze, and he made the right choice
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No disrespect, but alot of you kids have no idea what the seen was like back in 94,95,96. Infact if I remember correctly, dre was pretty much done with Death Row by Summer of 95, the last I remember dre doing for death row was promoting California Love on MTV in January of 95...
As for Hammer being signed to Death Row, that was a joke and was DEF not used to sell out Arenas. 2pac, and Snoop Dogg along with Tha Dogg Pound, Tha Luniz (big hit with I got 5 on it at that time) and the others on tour (Jodeci) could do that alone. Hammer was a joke after 1992 and even more so when he released his PUMPS AND A BUMP gangster rap image in 94..
I remember being in Miami and hearing ads on Top 40 radio Power 96 for a 2pac show with Snoop Dogg, Tha Luniz, Jodeci, Uncle Luke being played at the Miami Arena in August of 1995.
I say Dre left because he didnt want to work in that environment with a bunch of low lifes in and out that of the studio that prob had nothing to do with the music, he was over that faze, and he made the right choice
1. It's "scene" not "seen".
2. California Love was released in like December 1995, so how could Dre promote the song before it was recorded? You mean December 1995/January 1996.
3. 2pac was released in like October 1995 so how could he do a concert in August of 1995?
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your right, i ment august of 96..
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it was when suge hired rufus the janitor.
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I don't think Snoop dissed Dre there. In fact there's an interview with Snoop on Youtube (where he's promoting Tha Doggfather) where he says he reached out to Dre for production for Tha Doggfather, but Suge told him not to.
I distinctly remember a Snoop interview from many years ago (probably while he was still on Death Row) where he said he did reach out to Dre, but Dre kept saying that he had some other projects or something to that effect, which was obviously Dre not wanting to be affiliated with Death Row. Snoop interpreted it as Dre telling Snoop to move on, grow up and become his own artist.
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No disrespect, but alot of you kids have no idea what the seen was like back in 94,95,96.
I agree. I can't speak for all but, I still remember that time very well along gathering alot of info over there years it begin to become even more clear. 1995 was the year Dre began to make a change in his life. After his former longtime close friend Eazy-E died of AIDS in early 1995, Dre began to open his eyes and consider making some changes in his life. Several things may have broken up the business relationship and friendship of Dre and Suge. Creative differences, ego, greed, the environment, and even some other personal issues could have all lead and played apart of the rip between Dre and Suge. I think it was this combination that lead to Dre's departure. 2Pac may have became an issue on but, early on it didn't seem as if that was the case. They did a few interviews together, Dre laced Pac with some production on Pac's album (2 songs that were originally Dre songs), and he clearly knew about Pac being signed to Death Row. Look at Death Row's performance at The Source Awards in 1995. There was a cardboard cut-out of 2Pac (Me Against The World era photo) in one of the jail cell. That was one of the early hints of 2Pac being signed to Death Row.