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Title: Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: Hatesrats™ on January 18, 2003, 12:23:15 PM
You killed it...
The grasp-on to a Fad generation.

 :)
Hatesrats 2000Tre
Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on January 18, 2003, 12:37:46 PM
Nope......I disagree.......

Hip-Hop as its music and culture is bigger than ever now.......

RAP is dying.

























Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: ExZit on January 18, 2003, 01:04:10 PM
Nope......I disagree.......

Hip-Hop as its music and culture is bigger than ever now.......

RAP is dying.


i feel what u sayin... but the media thinks everything with hiphop eliments in it is hiphop..
thats why jenifer lopez and sisqo wins "best hiphop" award on mtv  :P

soo... hiphop loses its real meanin and kinda dyin too  :-\
Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: Trauma-san on January 18, 2003, 01:24:38 PM
Yeah, I think it's been bastardized.  I'll tell ya the way to go:


The singer Songwriters, that's the future of music, I think, people like norah jones, etc. are really creative and changing music, again, that's the bandwagon i'm hopping on to get the hell outta here, LOL.  
Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: Kaidy on January 18, 2003, 02:27:08 PM
Yup Hatesrats on point as usual. Shit I'll expand it and say good music in general is dead. I know it's still out there, but its sparse and doesn't get recognition.

I blame the major labels, radio stations and corporations who have made it too much of a business. It's all about who can find the next hot fad they can milk for an album or two.

And I think hip hop in general has lost its spark, there's so much unoriginal recycled crap out there. It's just a part of the system now, it's not challenging anything musically or culturally anymore IMO.
Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on January 18, 2003, 02:31:29 PM
Yup Hatesrats on point as usual. Shit I'll expand it and say good music in general is dead. I know it's still out there, but its sparse and doesn't get recognition.

I blame the major labels, radio stations and corporations who have made it too much of a business. It's all about who can find the next hot fad they can milk for an album or two.

And I think hip hop in general has lost its spark, there's so much unoriginal recycled crap out there. It's just a part of the system now, it's not challenging anything musically or culturally anymore IMO.
Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: M Dogg™ on January 18, 2003, 04:11:35 PM
I think rap and Hip-Hop have been dead, and dead for a while. I'd say about mid-2000 is when it was offically dead, we were just too blind to see. I think right now, there are people trying to breath air into the lungs of real Hip-Hop, like KRS-One, Common, Nas, The Roots and Ras Kass. But the forces of Neptunes, Nelly and R&B singers trying to be Hip-Hop is just too strong. Like Common said, I Used to Love H.E.R., but I ain't dissing the westcoast on this, I'm dissing commercial.
Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: Cliftone_Santiago_909 on January 18, 2003, 04:29:54 PM
Yup Hatesrats on point as usual. Shit I'll expand it and say good music in general is dead. I know it's still out there, but its sparse and doesn't get recognition.

I blame the major labels, radio stations and corporations who have made it too much of a business. It's all about who can find the next hot fad they can milk for an album or two.

And I think hip hop in general has lost its spark, there's so much unoriginal recycled crap out there. It's just a part of the system now, it's not challenging anything musically or culturally anymore IMO.



Mr Loc? Damn, didnt recognize you till you started tearing down buildings...


Anywayz... Rap/Hip Hop wont be dead until my stereo breaks... There's alwayz gonna be people who like what we like so there's alwayz gonna be people doing it... it's probably just not gonna be as easy to find...


And yeah, there's alot of wack shit out there but there's still alot of dope shit out there too.. I'm just waiting for them to release shit....
Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: Kaidy on January 18, 2003, 05:03:48 PM
Mr Loc? Damn, didnt recognize you till you started tearing down buildings...

Haha Sup Criminal homie, I was wondering if anyone would recognize the pic lol. its a lot of new people in here, glad to see some of the OGs like you and Hatesrats are still here
Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: T-Dogg on January 19, 2003, 12:16:01 AM
Rap/Hip Hop wont be dead until my stereo breaks... There's alwayz gonna be people who like what we like so there's alwayz gonna be people doing it... it's probably just not gonna be as easy to find...


And yeah, there's alot of wack shit out there but there's still alot of dope shit out there too.. I'm just waiting for them to release shit....

You said it.
Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: Trauma-san on January 19, 2003, 12:46:49 AM
I recognized the picture immediately, but I couldn't remember what your name was, LOL.  How's the produci'n goin/
Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: ExZit on January 19, 2003, 03:11:10 AM
Mr Loc? Damn, didnt recognize you till you started tearing down buildings...

Haha Sup Criminal homie, I was wondering if anyone would recognize the pic lol. its a lot of new people in here, glad to see some of the OGs like you and Hatesrats are still here

daamn, its the one and only mr loc!!   :o

but didnt u have a pic like this too?
(http://www.nalle.to/images/keljukojootti.gif)
Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: Snoop_da_BOSS on January 19, 2003, 08:52:26 AM
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Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: Snoop_da_BOSS on January 19, 2003, 08:52:46 AM
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Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: Snoop_da_BOSS on January 19, 2003, 08:52:54 AM
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Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: Snoop_da_BOSS on January 19, 2003, 08:53:01 AM
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Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: Snoop_da_BOSS on January 19, 2003, 08:53:09 AM
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Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 19, 2003, 12:13:15 PM
LmAO...As soon as I saw that picture, I said to myself "Mr Loc is back..."


LoL@Mr Loc deleting his acount every 4 months and returning on a different name...LoL...
Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: ILL-Logic-AL on January 19, 2003, 01:53:02 PM
Still working with Flawless, Loc?
Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: smerlus on January 20, 2003, 05:53:28 AM
i was having a debate on rap with some girl on the internet (i know it's pointless) and i told her that i pretty much listen to DJ Quik lately because his crew and him are 97.9 times on some real shit. anyways, she said to me "if this DJ Quik guy is so good, why haven't i heard of him but i've heard of Nelly and Ja Rule?"

i was offended that she grouped those names together so i told her like this... because you're one of those stupid bitches that throw away $16 for some gay ass dude that's cd subject matter is something like "i have all this money, rolexs, and jewelry so buy my cd and i'll tell you all about it on every one of my songs"

the majority of rap isn't contraversial anymore. (by that i mean thought provoking not that i fucked 2 girls with out a condom and went out and smoked some cops stuff) radio stations and record companies have found a cheap way to sell rap to everyone from 40 year old white italian ladies down to 6 year old black kids. this is hip pop which leads to the decline of another type of rap....

gangsta rap(pers) are dying out because the younger people are being brought up in the hip pop fan base and the ones that listened to it back in the 90's are older now...not too many of us can relate to shooting up a supermarket full of people while doing a crack sale. to be honest with you, that music was entertaining to me back then but it's really not anymore.

so while these are the two main flavors of rap right now. one, thats quickly becoming an epidemic while the other is seen as the hay day of rap, the rap that never was in the lime light, well more honestly, never widely excepted was the thought provoking rap.

so as fans of this genre we're stuck with three choices, sell-out, die-out or go unheard. think of that next time you're in a supermarket and some little white girl knows all the words to some ja rule song, sit back and reminisce the next time you look over when you're at a stop sign and you see some young thugs bumping that gangsta shit, or just chill in your house, drink beers, play video games, and watch your friends ask "who are you listening to? oh ok. shut up and pick your play asshole."
Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: Don Seer on January 20, 2003, 05:58:43 AM
Mr Loc? Damn, didnt recognize you till you started tearing down buildings...

Haha Sup Criminal homie, I was wondering if anyone would recognize the pic lol. its a lot of new people in here, glad to see some of the OGs like you and Hatesrats are still here

hehe... some are still around but some change their names everyday (e.g. lil jay.. lol)  tonge = logic.. he lost a battle and had ot delete his account.. good to see ya still checkin around here. i saw damon say "mr kaidy loc" somewhere the other day about the ATL cheese audio i put on dubcnn - now i get it ;)
Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: FuckJaRule on January 20, 2003, 06:36:25 AM
Rap and Hip Hop aren't dead, and they won't be dead, as long people like us listen to real rappers and not to faggots like the Murder INC- suckers!!! And there are still many rappers, who keep it RAW! As long they do, Rap keeps living!
Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: Kaidy on January 20, 2003, 07:52:43 AM
Smerlus that was a good post, I agree with everything you said on that.

And what's up to all the peeps who remember me, - Seer, Rud, Logic, etc etc. Yea I'm still down with Flawless and Street Life, still producing too.

LoL@Mr Loc deleting his acount every 4 months and returning on a different name...LoL...
and LOL at every time I come back, still nobody likes you.  ;)
Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: verbalassaulta on January 20, 2003, 10:29:23 AM
hip hop is not dead...however west coast hip hop is pretty much dead
Title: Re:Hip-hop is DeaD
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 20, 2003, 01:03:36 PM

and LOL at every time I come back, still nobody likes you.  ;)



Theres a difference between nobody and most people...PeACe