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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: O.G A.Geesta'z on September 01, 2011, 10:41:58 PM
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Vicious Victor is going to get a boxing lesson... De La Hoya is pushing this guy (no homo) so much he's going to lose.
I never liked De La Hoya and he is being a drama queen, that nigga aint no Charlie Sheen...
http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blog/_/name/rafael_dan/id/6919008/de-la-hoya-disclosures-no-surprise
is anyone peeping Mayweather vs Ortiz 24/7? first episode was intense
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhD889g4S4N3ayvVdh
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You're a disgrace to Mexicans everywhere.
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Mayweather is going to destroy Pacquiao
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You're a disgrace to Mexicans everywhere.
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Keep looking up to men who wear fishnets... Tio Tom
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LOL
But for real, Mayweather got this. Not even a question. Ortiz is a good up-and-comer but Floyd has fought tougher opponents in the past........none of them when they were in their prime, but they were still better than Ortiz is now.
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He's not gonna destroy him....he's gonna out point him..
I predict a boring fight like all Mayweather fights..
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He's not gonna destroy him....he's gonna out point him..
I predict a boring fight like all Mayweather fights..
no Ortiz is like s Mexican version of Hatton... I see Floyd knocking him out in the late rounds after dominating him
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He's not gonna destroy him....he's gonna out point him..
I predict a boring fight like all Mayweather fights..
no Ortiz is like s Mexican version of Hatton... I see Floyd knocking him out in the late rounds after dominating him
Ortiz does coke and fucks hookers too?
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And it wouldn't surprise if Ortiz quits again.
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I would normally go for the black guy but mayweather is just an unlikeable guy
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Fuck Floyd GAYweather aka CHEAP SHOT!
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Ortiz kept on apologizing like a million times then denied what he did.
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Ortiz is an idiot
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yea...ortiz was pretty dumb for head-butting mayweather like that, then looking away like a pussy.
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he probably just didn't want to get knocked around while missing punches for 8 more rounds
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The headbutt was stupid enough. Ref stops the fight, he hugs Mayweather, ref seperates them and then signals the fight to resume. They touch gloves and the idiot is still trying to hug Mayweather instead of realizing a fight is going on.
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LOL. Floyd is a God.
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i dont know why ortiz kept apologizing, u know that nigga mayweather wouldnt even if he did that shit. i mean whats up with the commercials? i guess its all show when they get eachothers face (not mayweather)
ortiz did bust an elano, but mayweather, bro, u must of been scared if he'd take a sucker KO like that.
pretty funny how he bitched out on pac-man.
http://www.youtube.com//v/fe2BJst5P_Y
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Gotta love Mayweather. He's the greatest troll in boxing.
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i dont think it was a bad way to win for mayweather cus he was smart enough to take the punches
its just a bad way for Ortiz to lose cus it showed hes still young and makes alot of dumb careless mistakes
Mayweather was already picking Ortiz down it would of been a matter of time till Ortiz hit the floor anyway
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I don't really like Mayweather's personality but I don't blame him at all. Ortiz took a weak cheap shot so it's not like he deserved any better.
But Money Mayweather really needs to fight Pac already! That's gonna be a dope ass fight
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Never like floyd but he won this fair but ir was a cheap shot with Ortiz hands down dude knows how to win
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im a fan of mayweather but he is no god. you arent a god or legend of a sport unless you face the best. Anderson Silva & George St. Pierre have made themselves re
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I'm not going to lie. If I was 42-0-0, slowing down & aging, I wouldn't be running to fight somebody who would be favored against me.
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The only one running here is Bob Arum. He's really convinced the media that Mayweather is avoiding the fight, he worked the media well. It does make sense, since nobody in the media even likes Mayweather anyway. It wasn't until September of THIS year that Pacquiao and his promoter are saying that there is no issue with the olympic style blood testing, before that they would claim that they agreed to it but still wanted cut-off dates. The fight is going to happen May 5th, 2012. Winner goes on to face Sergio Martinez, which to me would be a more interesting fight.
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^ Martinez? Damn that would be crazy. I don't know if Pac or May would be able to handle his size.
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^ Martinez? Damn that would be crazy. I don't know if Pac or May would be able to handle his size.
They would probably take the fight at 150 because they know it would be more stress for Sergio to come down weight and make it easier for them to gain weight for the fight
unless they do it at 154 but that would be a big disadvantage for both Pac and May and give the advantage to Sergio
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Sergio recently stated that he's wiling to go down to 150 too. I think Mayweather would be willing to just go up to 154 in order to cement his legacy. There's always been a rumor going around that a mega fight in Dubai would eventually happen....can you imagine Mayweather vs Martinez in Dubai? That would be too sick!
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Mayweather never beat the best. his legacy is gonna suck.
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The only one running here is Bob Arum. He's really convinced the media that Mayweather is avoiding the fight, he worked the media well. It does make sense, since nobody in the media even likes Mayweather anyway. It wasn't until September of THIS year that Pacquiao and his promoter are saying that there is no issue with the olympic style blood testing, before that they would claim that they agreed to it but still wanted cut-off dates. The fight is going to happen May 5th, 2012. Winner goes on to face Sergio Martinez, which to me would be a more interesting fight.
this proves he is running lma. he makes up rules to fight. olympic blood tests? that isnt required he isnt the comissionar of boxing the test makes you drowsy and pac didnt wanna take it. if mayweather wanted to fight he would of done it normal rules normal everything. he is making up tests and shit just to avoid the chance of a loss. i have never watched one of his fights going "wow what a tough match up"
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Blood testing doesn't get you drowsy, now if he were to donate pints of blood that's a different case. When it comes to a boxing match, each boxer can request their own rules. Pac has done it plenty of times by asking boxers to fight at a Catch-weight. De La Hoya asked Mayweather to fight with smaller gloves. Pac also requested Mayweather to be fined $10 million dollars for every LB over 147, Mayweather agreed and even offered the 14 day cut off dates to Pac and they still refused. After that, Mayweather said fuck it all his fights random blood testing with no cut-off dates.
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Blood testing doesn't get you drowsy, now if he were to donate pints of blood that's a different case. When it comes to a boxing match, each boxer can request their own rules. Pac has done it plenty of times by asking boxers to fight at a Catch-weight. De La Hoya asked Mayweather to fight with smaller gloves. Pac also requested Mayweather to be fined $10 million dollars for every LB over 147, Mayweather agreed and even offered the 14 day cut off dates to Pac and they still refused. After that, Mayweather said fuck it all his fights random blood testing with no cut-off dates.
The fine for Mayweather coming in overweight is irrelevant, since all it does is reinforce the same limit as before. Did they change the 147 pound welterweight limit? No. They just put a bigger penalty if Floyd comes in overweight. Why? Because he had come in two pounds over the contracted weight before against Marquez, so he has a documented history of not meeting weight (albeit at a catchweight). But coming in at 147 isn't hard for Mayweather, so it's no more of a concern than it would be if the penalty weren't there. They're not making him have to do anything extra.
First off, let me say that I wish Manny would've just taken the tests in the beginning to get it over with, but that aside, it was an additional physical hurdle that Manny would have to go through, one that is neither required nor necessary. Are blood tests good for the sport? Sure, I'm not against them. But if he doesn't want to do them, then he doesn't want to do them. But he agreed to anyway, then Mayweather kept changing his stance. Let's not forget...
First round of negoations: Floyd wants blood tests, Manny says no, Floyd allows 14-day cutoff, Manny allows 24-day cutoff (which was when he was blood tested before the Hatton match)... no dice, Manny fights Clottey, Floyd fights Mosley (though we later find out that their last blood tests were 18 days before the fight)
Second round: Manny agrees to original 14-day cutoff, Floyd wants testing up to the fight... no dice, Manny fights Margarito
Third round: Manny (allegedly) agrees to testing up to the fight (though Michael Koncz said in 24/7 that it was a 7-day cutoff), Floyd still wants testing up to the fight... no dice, Manny fights Mosley
Fourth round (kind of): Manny agrees to testing up to the fight, though they want to use the WADA (since the USADA can't conduct tests in the Philippines where Manny trains), but Floyd wants the USADA to exclusively conduct the tests and supposedly even wants Manny to train exclusively in the U.S. as a result (though I think it was more his team who said it)
Some fault lies with both of them, but Floyd is the one who keeps changing his demands after Manny agrees.
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A physical hurdle? Come on now. All the news reports are there, you get the misconception that there was an agreement thanks to Bob Arum's classic press releases.
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making a bigger fine for weight and asking for a blood test even closer to the fight is completly different.
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh3qIJ1X4mv96x7E72
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh2jmPLdbHd5ZW5U42
dude is a walking contradiction.
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Yup it is. Because one if unchecked can be extremely dangerous for a fight.
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http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh3qIJ1X4mv96x7E72
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh2jmPLdbHd5ZW5U42
dude is a walking contradiction.
I watched the second video where he admits contradicting himself. However, it's stupid for him to talk about the situations where certain athletes had always been expected to be great while saying that Pacquiao "magically" got good in recent years. That's completely wrong, but Floyd is about getting your attention, so I guess he succeeded.
Again, this isn't saying who is better, because that doesn't matter until they step in the ring. But Floyd was good from the beginning because he had real training from the beginning. Floyd Sr. and Roger were professional boxers, so Floyd Jr. was always around boxing from birth and was trained by professionals who happened to be his father and uncle, respectively. Manny was poor and in a third-world country around mediocre trainers and could barely afford to eat. It makes sense for his emergence to have happened now, since he didn't start training with Freddie Roach until 2001 (and obviously it takes time for the trainer and the boxer to really get in the groove, plus Manny would learn a new skill set while trying to "un-learn" bad things he was taught or picked up on his own) and when he was making enough not just to live decently but to bring on a physical trainer and nutritionist like Alex Ariza. Besides, it's not like 10-15 years ago, people were looking at the Philippines for up-and-coming boxers, so of course there was no buzz about him.
Yup it is. Because one if unchecked can be extremely dangerous for a fight.
Maybe... but this is how I look at it.
Check De La Hoya-Vargas from 2002. Vargas was favored to win and had come off of some solid wins (though he lost to Trinidad a few fights prior, but De La Hoya did too, so that more or less cancels it out), as people were thinking De La Hoya might be on a decline, but what happened? De La Hoya beat his ass and got the TKO victory in the eleventh round, and they found steroids in Vargas's system. But in the end, it was De La Hoya whose hand was raised, while Vargas had blood leaking from the side of his face and was wobbled in the 10th (saved by the bell) then put on his ass and TKO'd in the 11th, all with steroids in his system. De La Hoya still fucked him up. Why can't boxers be Gs and just fight? It's not like they don't test for PEDs at all.
Just my opinion.
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Blood testing doesn't get you drowsy, now if he were to donate pints of blood that's a different case. When it comes to a boxing match, each boxer can request their own rules. Pac has done it plenty of times by asking boxers to fight at a Catch-weight. De La Hoya asked Mayweather to fight with smaller gloves. Pac also requested Mayweather to be fined $10 million dollars for every LB over 147, Mayweather agreed and even offered the 14 day cut off dates to Pac and they still refused. After that, Mayweather said fuck it all his fights random blood testing with no cut-off dates.
The fine for Mayweather coming in overweight is irrelevant, since all it does is reinforce the same limit as before. Did they change the 147 pound welterweight limit? No. They just put a bigger penalty if Floyd comes in overweight. Why? Because he had come in two pounds over the contracted weight before against Marquez, so he has a documented history of not meeting weight (albeit at a catchweight). But coming in at 147 isn't hard for Mayweather, so it's no more of a concern than it would be if the penalty weren't there. They're not making him have to do anything extra.
First off, let me say that I wish Manny would've just taken the tests in the beginning to get it over with, but that aside, it was an additional physical hurdle that Manny would have to go through, one that is neither required nor necessary. Are blood tests good for the sport? Sure, I'm not against them. But if he doesn't want to do them, then he doesn't want to do them. But he agreed to anyway, then Mayweather kept changing his stance. Let's not forget...
First round of negoations: Floyd wants blood tests, Manny says no, Floyd allows 14-day cutoff, Manny allows 24-day cutoff (which was when he was blood tested before the Hatton match)... no dice, Manny fights Clottey, Floyd fights Mosley (though we later find out that their last blood tests were 18 days before the fight)
Second round: Manny agrees to original 14-day cutoff, Floyd wants testing up to the fight... no dice, Manny fights Margarito
Third round: Manny (allegedly) agrees to testing up to the fight (though Michael Koncz said in 24/7 that it was a 7-day cutoff), Floyd still wants testing up to the fight... no dice, Manny fights Mosley
Fourth round (kind of): Manny agrees to testing up to the fight, though they want to use the WADA (since the USADA can't conduct tests in the Philippines where Manny trains), but Floyd wants the USADA to exclusively conduct the tests and supposedly even wants Manny to train exclusively in the U.S. as a result (though I think it was more his team who said it)
Some fault lies with both of them, but Floyd is the one who keeps changing his demands after Manny agrees.
And all this bullshit is why mma is winning. Boxers are treated like divas and can do whatever they want, hence these fights never happen when they should.
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All I'll say is, I can't wait to see Pacquaio knock Mayweather's head off and put him in his place IF the fight does go ahead. Mayweather stays running though.
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All I'll say is, I can't wait to see Pacquaio knock Mayweather's head off and put him in his place IF the fight does go ahead. Mayweather stays running though.
As much as I'd love to see that happen, I don't know if that would be the outcome. But at least we'll probably see that happen against Marquez in November. I've made it clear that I'm a Manny fan, but if this fight happens to go the distance, then I'll be worried about the rest of Manny's boxing career... unless Marquez breaks the record for getting knocked down in a single fight in the process.