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Title: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: G-Bee on September 02, 2011, 04:59:49 AM
Source (http://diaryofahollywoodstreetking.com/jewell-releasing-book/)

” The most hurtful thing to me was when Snoop Dogg went to Master P’s label, I hooked back up with him and Dr. Dre and we made “Just Dippin.” Then I made another song with Snoop called “Don’t Tell.” Snoop didn’t want to pay me! I admit I was kind of temperamental but who wouldn’t be if you were with a label and they robbed you of your credit and never really paid you for your work? I got some money from Death Row but it wasn’t even a fraction of what I should’ve been given. But back to Snoop, we had an agreement where I was only charging him $5,000 for two songs – and he didn’t want to pay me. I’ve never been paid for those songs either because we could never come to an agreement – yet they still put the songs out.”

also, about her work on Bone Thugs n Harmony's "For the love of money":

"I recorded a song for Yomo & Maulkie featuring Eazy-E. It was just one of the songs that was just sitting in the vault that never came out. When Eazy signed Bone Thugs N Harmony, he took the two other rappers off and left my voice on. We had a couple of discussions about payment.

Then Eric (Eazy-E) got sick. When he got sick, I didn’t want to approach him or his family with money issues. I never had a problem with Eric and I knew under different circumstances, he would’ve paid me. After Eric died, I had a discussion with his wife Tameka about the song. The song was a smash hit and I was able to track her down through someone that knew her. Tameka told me, “Why didn’t you come forward sooner?” I told her that Eric was my homeboy and I didn’t want to disrespect his family by bringing up money. I wanted to let them mourn. She was real anal towards me. I left it at that.”
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Okka on September 02, 2011, 05:21:16 AM
No wonder she ain't workin' with them anymore.
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: mlk93 on September 02, 2011, 06:07:27 AM
since when it's artist who are paying it's more the label than the artist . He was sign at no limit at that time so why blame snoop??
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Smackdog on September 02, 2011, 07:13:43 AM
If snoop was the one to call her out there.........then he was responsible for making sure she got paid.......like he was getting paid...and snoop never said he didnt get paid from out there....


snoop done did wrong
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Eazy-Duz-It on September 02, 2011, 08:06:40 AM
Damn, I never knew it was Jewell on the "Foe tha Love of $" vocals...
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Quadruple OG on September 02, 2011, 09:52:49 AM
Funny Suge gets shitted on for not paying artists yet Snoop did the same thing with Goldie Loc, Tray Deee, Doggy's Angels, Jewell
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: bouli77 on September 02, 2011, 10:00:51 AM
lmao i know right...

it seems like those who get played in the first place always seem to reproduce the shady ways of their ex-bosses. cf. Cube & Snoop.
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on September 02, 2011, 10:13:39 AM
not really,
Snoop broke bread wit his artists, thing is - the money/a-game stardom got the best of em. greed (Goldie Loc n Kokane r great examples

the Jewell-thing, i dunno. but Master P was responsible for the budgets. she shouldve hollad at him or Priority, they own the catalogue. Snoop was just an artist at the time
but if he "promised" her payment, thats kinda foul
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: bouli77 on September 02, 2011, 11:20:14 AM
Snoop never paid Tray Deee & Goldie for the two Eastsidaz albums. according to Tray Deee, he owed him $140k . i'm not saying snoop's the evil but he did just like Suge with his artists... pampered them, bought them stuff, introduced them to a lavish lifestyle but didn't pay 'em what they were owed (although they weren't owed as much as snoop were while he was on Death Row)
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: MUHFUKKA on September 02, 2011, 11:25:33 AM
the music industry is shady. who knows if its really snoop who sheisted her or snoop/the label's lawyers. people get a shot at stardom and dont read the fine print
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: bouli77 on September 02, 2011, 11:30:19 AM
yeah very true. also a lot of people have blind faith in their mentor/homie when it's a multi-million dollar industry where you're supposed to know your shit
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on September 02, 2011, 11:31:16 AM
goldie n tray they ate off of the eastidaz albums. both of em had publsihing contracts, Snoop broke bread too,, but not as much as "they felt like they desered". its a diffrence,,, snoop always played fair, put Long Beach artists on ,, that he didnt owe a damn thing.. look at Goldie, kokane, e-white today.. not to mention bad azz.. smh

beside, if u aint got ur paper straight when ur singnin the dotted line, u can only blame urself.. u cant knock Puff, snoop or suge for being "fake", when they r tryin to run label n cake em up themselves.. industry is not the salvation army, n artist need to sperate the "firendships" wit "businees", n understand that nothin is personal

Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Styles1 on September 02, 2011, 12:05:41 PM
SMH. Those dudes straight took my quotes and didn't even credit my interview. lol
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: D-Nice on September 02, 2011, 12:08:42 PM
SMH. Those dudes straight took my quotes and didn't even credit my interview. lol

I was about to say yeah this looks jacked.  >:(
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Smackdog on September 02, 2011, 12:15:51 PM
snoop sure did wrong and fouil on this deal
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: www.ClintDogg.com on September 02, 2011, 01:08:20 PM
there are many different factors involved when recording songs with major artists. ya never know but each is very unique.
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Adriano on September 02, 2011, 01:15:37 PM
unbelievable...
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Styles1 on September 02, 2011, 02:34:12 PM
SMH. Those dudes straight took my quotes and didn't even credit my interview. lol

I was about to say yeah this looks jacked.  >:(

straight jacked...lol.

If any of you want the full story on what Jewell had to say, go here: http://www.allhiphop.com/stories/features/archive/2011/08/31/22874193.aspx?CommentPosted=true#commentmessage
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: xxrayrayxx on September 02, 2011, 02:48:48 PM
Its sad but the music industry is full of things like this.
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: 2euce 7even on September 02, 2011, 07:53:59 PM
i wonder why snoop did this .. theyve been knowin each otha for years and been makin some classics so why not pay her?

fuck snoop and tha industry ...
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: riphuero on September 02, 2011, 10:20:29 PM
i wonder why snoop did this .. theyve been knowin each otha for years and been makin some classics so why not pay her?

fuck snoop and tha industry ...

and for 5 gz snoop could of paid her and been like 5gz aint shit. those tracks she was on wer in the top 5 tracks. jewell was coo because she could of gone to court and made major paper. easy 20 gz for the damage then her royalties.  ya snoop is wack.
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: HighEyeCue on September 03, 2011, 02:07:39 AM
i wonder why snoop did this .. theyve been knowin each otha for years and been makin some classics so why not pay her?

fuck snoop and tha industry ...

Snoop can be shady at times
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: b.laden on September 03, 2011, 05:14:49 AM
fuck snoop if it 's true
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Smackdog on September 03, 2011, 06:20:43 AM
Snoop doggy dogg can be a real dog sometimes.....I am going to write nima and tell him to stop doing interviews with snoop and stop using dubcnn to promote him....
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: The_Ripper on September 03, 2011, 06:57:48 AM
LMAO @ this thread
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Quadruple OG on September 03, 2011, 09:16:40 AM
Snoop doggy dogg can be a real dog sometimes.....I am going to write nima and tell him to stop doing interviews with snoop and stop using dubcnn to promote him....

Good luck. This forum has a history of being the unofficial Snoop Dogg/DPG message board.
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: The_Ripper on September 03, 2011, 09:33:48 AM
Snoop doggy dogg can be a real dog sometimes.....I am going to write nima and tell him to stop doing interviews with snoop and stop using dubcnn to promote him....

Good luck. This forum has a history of being the unofficial Snoop Dogg/DPG message board.

stop crying
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Quadruple OG on September 03, 2011, 11:22:58 AM
Snoop doggy dogg can be a real dog sometimes.....I am going to write nima and tell him to stop doing interviews with snoop and stop using dubcnn to promote him....

Good luck. This forum has a history of being the unofficial Snoop Dogg/DPG message board.

stop crying

The truth = not crying

Nice try.
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: The_Ripper on September 03, 2011, 12:16:38 PM
Snoop doggy dogg can be a real dog sometimes.....I am going to write nima and tell him to stop doing interviews with snoop and stop using dubcnn to promote him....

Good luck. This forum has a history of being the unofficial Snoop Dogg/DPG message board.

stop crying

The truth = not crying

Nice try.

it's not the truth, it's YOUR truth.
try again little kid  :D :laugh:
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Quadruple OG on September 03, 2011, 01:21:27 PM
Snoop doggy dogg can be a real dog sometimes.....I am going to write nima and tell him to stop doing interviews with snoop and stop using dubcnn to promote him....

Good luck. This forum has a history of being the unofficial Snoop Dogg/DPG message board.

stop crying

The truth = not crying

Nice try.

it's not the truth, it's YOUR truth.
try again little kid  :D :laugh:

You've only been a member of the forum for a few months, so you're forgiven
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: The_Ripper on September 04, 2011, 12:11:45 AM
Snoop doggy dogg can be a real dog sometimes.....I am going to write nima and tell him to stop doing interviews with snoop and stop using dubcnn to promote him....

Good luck. This forum has a history of being the unofficial Snoop Dogg/DPG message board.

stop crying

The truth = not crying

Nice try.

it's not the truth, it's YOUR truth.
try again little kid  :D :laugh:

You've only been a member of the forum for a few months, so you're forgiven

 :nawty: :loser:
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: 3rd Coast on September 04, 2011, 12:13:31 AM
wasnt snoop problem...

master p wrote the checks...
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: The_Ripper on September 04, 2011, 12:26:12 AM
wasnt snoop problem...

master p wrote the checks...


exactly
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Fonkarround on September 04, 2011, 09:59:58 AM
wasnt snoop problem...

master p wrote the checks...


exactly
Well, yeah. You can't blame Snoop, but for a friend he could've get the payments done - knowing what i know about Snoop, he dont fuck arround with people, so he could approached Master P or anybody who was doing the checks then.
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: jeromechickenbone on September 04, 2011, 10:06:30 AM
Well who knows if Snoop is aware that she got paid or not.  Like yall said, P would have been cutting those checks.

Now, if Snoop was aware of it and didn't give a fuck then that's foul as hell.  All of those songs are dope and she def contributed.  

Break her off some change Snoop.
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: jeromechickenbone on September 04, 2011, 10:09:16 AM
SMH. Those dudes straight took my quotes and didn't even credit my interview. lol

That's some bullshit too.

Mods, or OP take that link out of your post and replace it with Styles link. 
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Lunatic on September 04, 2011, 11:08:00 AM
Not surprising at all.
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: J-FUNKTION on September 04, 2011, 11:17:40 AM
wasnt snoop problem...

master p wrote the checks...


but master p might not have been aware...snoop wasnt around those cats all day....he probably did a gang of tracks on his own time brought them over to p and they decided what to put on...snoop prolly had a budget and said yea yeah jewell i got you...and just brushed it off and never mentioned anything....just a possibility...
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: G-Bee on September 04, 2011, 12:46:22 PM

master p wrote the checks...


http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.16737/title.master-p-sued-for-240k-over-unpaid-fees (http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.16737/title.master-p-sued-for-240k-over-unpaid-fees)
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on September 04, 2011, 01:17:51 PM
why she crying to snoop? what about her agent? accountant? no limits people?



she expect Snoop to bust out a check and give it to her?
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Schüler Music on September 04, 2011, 02:02:10 PM
Snoop doggy dogg can be a real dog sometimes.....I am going to write nima and tell him to stop doing interviews with snoop and stop using dubcnn to promote him....

DAAAAAAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Deuce-Deuce on September 05, 2011, 10:19:51 AM
wasnt snoop problem...

master p wrote the checks...


exactly
Well, yeah. You can't blame Snoop, but for a friend he could've get the payments done - knowing what i know about Snoop, he dont fuck arround with people, so he could approached Master P or anybody who was doing the checks then.

She says Snoop didn't want to pay her
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: geezy on September 05, 2011, 04:31:44 PM
Snoop doggy dogg can be a real dog sometimes.....I am going to write nima and tell him to stop doing interviews with snoop and stop using dubcnn to promote him....

This is what crack do to you  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ......... It's a chronic state when you start typing such drivel  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Smackdog on September 05, 2011, 04:48:01 PM
why she crying to snoop? what about her agent? accountant? no limits people?



she expect Snoop to bust out a check and give it to her?


you think a girl from the hood had all that?   an agent and an accountant ?   all she had was snoop's word....and it showed to be worthless
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on September 06, 2011, 05:12:08 AM
lol @ people gettin emotionally entangled in this matter
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Smackdog on September 06, 2011, 05:26:56 AM
"snoop didnt want to pay me............."      maybe snoop had all his money tied up in Crack
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on September 06, 2011, 11:34:05 AM
She should just sue no limit of they didnt pay her.
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Smackdog on September 06, 2011, 01:18:13 PM
She should just sue no limit of they didnt pay her.



No limit is out of business...........so no she cant do that....the best she can do is ask snoop for the money...and the best he can do is say no.....

never trust a man who names himself after a cartoon dog
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Okka on September 06, 2011, 02:24:50 PM
never trust a man who names himself after a cartoon dog

Hahah, true that.
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on September 06, 2011, 02:48:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com//v/mIHXmiAfL3E http://www.youtube.com//v/4ACr0yvgOmI


Jewell can sing like a muthaphukka too.  not like alotta these new bitches comin' out.
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: samutahjazz on September 06, 2011, 02:49:50 PM
she might have been the studio hoe, and lucky to be there in the first place. she was gettin paid for her services, maybe not every vocal, but why would she stay around if she wasnt ever getting compensated?? anyways, her album and book are coming out so she prolly just gettin her name out there.
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on September 06, 2011, 02:55:48 PM
she might have been the studio hoe, and lucky to be there in the first place. she was gettin paid for her services, maybe not every vocal, but why would she stay around if she wasnt ever getting compensated??


it's called having a dream and pursuing your goals.  she may have been the "studio hoe" but that doesn't mean she was suckin dicks for no reason.  Jewell should've came out in 95' becuz that would've been her right time.  she maybe can do something now but there's too many politics in tha way and competition for her to ever get back to that notoriety.  i hope she makes it though.  and as far as this book is concerned she's just giving you 1 reason to buy it and it's not necessarily a bad thing.  i can't wait to hear her Death Row album when it gets released.
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: samutahjazz on September 06, 2011, 03:39:21 PM
she might have been the studio hoe, and lucky to be there in the first place. she was gettin paid for her services, maybe not every vocal, but why would she stay around if she wasnt ever getting compensated??


it's called having a dream and pursuing your goals.  she may have been the "studio hoe" but that doesn't mean she was suckin dicks for no reason.  Jewell should've came out in 95' becuz that would've been her right time.  she maybe can do something now but there's too many politics in tha way and competition for her to ever get back to that notoriety.  i hope she makes it though.  and as far as this book is concerned she's just giving you 1 reason to buy it and it's not necessarily a bad thing.  i can't wait to hear her Death Row album when it gets released.


sha very well could have been suckin dicks for no reason. she could be some lyin ass bitch that was just along for the ride and nobody ever agreed to pay her anything..... we just dont know the whole truth
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Recognize on September 06, 2011, 08:04:43 PM
It is true that we don't know the truth/whole story but based on Snoop's past issues with paying some of his artists, Jewell's acqusation is certainly believeable
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Smackdog on September 06, 2011, 08:52:39 PM
Snoops record of "Jackin and smackin Hoes"   speaks for itself.......he loves to get dressed up as a pimp and dance around in videos...so what do pimps do? in real life they Rob hoes of there cash.....so you figure it out
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: G-Bee on September 07, 2011, 12:12:21 AM

sha very well could have been suckin dicks for no reason. she could be some lyin ass bitch that was just along for the ride and nobody ever agreed to pay her anything..... we just dont know the whole truth

This is getting ridiculous. You sit behind your computer talking about Jewell like she was just some groupie that hung around Death Row... Wow. We may not know the whole truth, but just looking at her track record will tell you she wasn't just up there sucking dicks  :-X
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Dre-Day on September 07, 2011, 03:17:28 AM
she might have been the studio hoe, and lucky to be there in the first place. she was gettin paid for her services, maybe not every vocal, but why would she stay around if she wasnt ever getting compensated??


it's called having a dream and pursuing your goals.  she may have been the "studio hoe" but that doesn't mean she was suckin dicks for no reason.  Jewell should've came out in 95' becuz that would've been her right time.  she maybe can do something now but there's too many politics in tha way and competition for her to ever get back to that notoriety.  i hope she makes it though.  and as far as this book is concerned she's just giving you 1 reason to buy it and it's not necessarily a bad thing.  i can't wait to hear her Death Row album when it gets released.

sha very well could have been suckin dicks for no reason. she could be some lyin ass bitch that was just along for the ride and nobody ever agreed to pay her anything..... we just dont know the whole truth
right, i guess thats why she moved to death row & got put on by dre
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Smackdog on September 07, 2011, 12:22:28 PM
anyone who wants to use this opportunity to speak bad on Jewell is just a pure hater
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: PhunkyDoob on September 08, 2011, 01:20:54 PM
Guess i was right. Seems like she admitting to sleeping with Suge even though she's trying to dismiss it later on in the interview. Like i said her jaw game was probably superb.
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Dre-Day on September 08, 2011, 01:55:01 PM
Guess i was right. Seems like she admitting to sleeping with Suge even though she's trying to dismiss it later on in the interview. Like i said her jaw game was probably superb.
now you're just making stuff up.
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: PhunkyDoob on September 08, 2011, 03:12:07 PM
Guess i was right. Seems like she admitting to sleeping with Suge even though she's trying to dismiss it later on in the interview. Like i said her jaw game was probably superb.
now you're just making stuff up.

Did you read her new interview with hiphopdx? Check again. She even said she used to be on ecstasy and shit. I'm put the word "seem" before though don't know for sure but
i think she/they was trying to hint at it one way or another and then she claimed that other people edited the trailer were they mentioned it.
Title: Re: Jewell says Snoop never paid her for "Just Dippin" and "Don't Tell"
Post by: Dre-Day on September 09, 2011, 04:44:46 AM
Guess i was right. Seems like she admitting to sleeping with Suge even though she's trying to dismiss it later on in the interview. Like i said her jaw game was probably superb.
now you're just making stuff up.

Did you read her new interview with hiphopdx? Check again. She even said she used to be on ecstasy and shit. I'm put the word "seem" before though don't know for sure but
i think she/they was trying to hint at it one way or another and then she claimed that other people edited the trailer were they mentioned it.
she did another interview after this one? ill check it. my bad if i had the wrong idea