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Title: Producers for Game
Post by: love33 on September 16, 2011, 11:24:44 PM
Who do you think should produce Game's next legendary release?  I would personally like to see Talib Kweli, Scott Storch, and Cool & Dre handle the production.  I would also like to see Swizz Beatz on at least 2 tracks (a party track and a raw track).

Honorable mention to Mars of 1500 or Nuthin' and Pharrell.

Which producers do you want to see him work with for the next classic?
Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: h2k4 on September 16, 2011, 11:41:37 PM
I would like to see the whole album done by 1500 or Nothin'. 
Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: love33 on September 16, 2011, 11:57:06 PM
Mars wasn't bad.  I love the tracks "I'm On" and "Change Your Life" (I can't stop bumpin them!)  I wouldn't mind seein that but thinkin back Will.I.Am had good chemistry with Game.  I wonder how it would sound to hear a whole Game album produced by Will.I.Am.

Game just needs a producer who really has a touch for his style.  Pharrell can't do a whole Game album as good as he is.  Pharrell is good for one or two tracks with Game, but he just isn't the guy to carry it.  I think Pharrell sounds great with artists like The Clipse, but Game needs a different type of producer who makes more beats that fit his flow.  I think Will.I.Am might be a good look.
Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: Elkoizm on September 17, 2011, 12:35:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/qNc5c--N9Vo
Fucking banger. Will I Am would be dope to hear with Game again.
Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: So Much Style on September 17, 2011, 01:19:00 AM
game was at his best on doc advocate! we need more of that!
Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: Gamestarr on September 17, 2011, 03:25:06 AM
Scott Storch, Hi-Tek, Just Blaze and Khalil  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: West$ide Boi on September 17, 2011, 03:37:02 AM
Scott Storch, Hi-Tek, Just Blaze and Khalil  8) 8) 8)

and Dr.Dre of course 8)
Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: 13th Duke on September 17, 2011, 03:39:14 AM
The biggest problem with the R.E.D. Album for me is that there is no "sound". Its just him roping in artists from everywhere that have buzz to try and make his album sell. He'd release a much more cohesive LP if he picked a set of producers that all follow the same sound and gives the album a singular theme.
Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: Mietek23 on September 17, 2011, 03:49:02 AM
Game should do a whole album with J.R. Rotem - "State Of Emergency" and "California Vacation" were bangin' 8)
Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: BlueSwan on September 17, 2011, 04:00:56 AM
Basically, everyone who worked on TDA.
Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: love33 on September 17, 2011, 10:35:18 AM
game was at his best on doc advocate! we need more of that!

Agree 100% and that was a true West Coast album
Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: love33 on September 17, 2011, 10:45:14 AM
The biggest problem with the R.E.D. Album for me is that there is no "sound". Its just him roping in artists from everywhere that have buzz to try and make his album sell. He'd release a much more cohesive LP if he picked a set of producers that all follow the same sound and gives the album a singular theme.

R.E.D. was a theme that leaked over the course of a long period of time -- The Hoodmorning Candy Coronas was better than the actual album in my opinion, and I liked the album, it's just that like you said the album was a bit of a disorganized carry over.  I think what happened is that the album ended up sounding like another mixtape in the series rather than being different it just sounded like a carry-over.  The Red Room, Hoodmorning Candy Coronas, the actual album, then the Hangover (am I missing any other mixtapes in the series?)

And the mixtapes were dope, but there was nothing unique that made that album standout or different than the mixtapes.  The first thing an artist has to ask himself is what makes my album different than the mixtapes that someone would want to go out and buy it.

In this case, it almost would have been better not to release any of the mixtapes until 3 months after the album release.. and instead take the best tracks from all the mixtapes, put them in order and make a double album of bangers.  A month before the album comes out drop a 5-track teaser and a freestyle to spark interest, then drop the gem.  In this case, I think the mixtapes might have actually hurt the artist.  Game needs a better executive producer also.  Pharrell is a great talent, but he just doesn't have the artistic chemistry with Game that he has with some others.

Maybe he should go holler at Suge to executive produce his next album.  Suge does a superb job of picking the tracks and Game makes great music, he just doesn't always put it together properly.  Game also needs to do a better job of picking his radio singles which I'm surprised Jimmy didn't do a good job to help him or promote his music (I think Jimmy wants his contract done).
Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: UCC on September 17, 2011, 10:56:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/qNc5c--N9Vo
Fucking banger. Will I Am would be dope to hear with Game again.

Word, funnily enough will.i.am gave him what is one of his hardest tracks
Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: TT Makaveli on September 17, 2011, 11:01:54 AM
Hi-Tek (Runnin, Letter to the King, Ol English)
JR Rotem (State Of Emergency, California Vacation, LAX Files)
Cool & Dre (The City, Hate It Or Love It, InfraRed)
Mars (The Hangover, Im On, The Town)

but the best is really Dre...cause Game would give his all on a Dre beat!

Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: love33 on September 17, 2011, 09:13:16 PM
What do you think about Talib Kweli producing for Game?
Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: RingMan on September 18, 2011, 01:29:14 AM
Talib is not a producer
Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: friscoliving on September 18, 2011, 02:47:29 AM
Mars (1500 or nothin), DJ Khalil (dr. dre) , Hi-tek, nottz, JR Rotem, cool and dre
Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: 13th Duke on September 18, 2011, 04:55:31 AM
The biggest problem with the R.E.D. Album for me is that there is no "sound". Its just him roping in artists from everywhere that have buzz to try and make his album sell. He'd release a much more cohesive LP if he picked a set of producers that all follow the same sound and gives the album a singular theme.

R.E.D. was a theme that leaked over the course of a long period of time -- The Hoodmorning Candy Coronas was better than the actual album in my opinion, and I liked the album, it's just that like you said the album was a bit of a disorganized carry over.  I think what happened is that the album ended up sounding like another mixtape in the series rather than being different it just sounded like a carry-over.  The Red Room, Hoodmorning Candy Coronas, the actual album, then the Hangover (am I missing any other mixtapes in the series?)

And the mixtapes were dope, but there was nothing unique that made that album standout or different than the mixtapes.  The first thing an artist has to ask himself is what makes my album different than the mixtapes that someone would want to go out and buy it.

In this case, it almost would have been better not to release any of the mixtapes until 3 months after the album release.. and instead take the best tracks from all the mixtapes, put them in order and make a double album of bangers.  A month before the album comes out drop a 5-track teaser and a freestyle to spark interest, then drop the gem.  In this case, I think the mixtapes might have actually hurt the artist.  Game needs a better executive producer also.  Pharrell is a great talent, but he just doesn't have the artistic chemistry with Game that he has with some others.

Maybe he should go holler at Suge to executive produce his next album.  Suge does a superb job of picking the tracks and Game makes great music, he just doesn't always put it together properly.  Game also needs to do a better job of picking his radio singles which I'm surprised Jimmy didn't do a good job to help him or promote his music (I think Jimmy wants his contract done).

100% agree with all of this.
Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: love33 on September 18, 2011, 09:14:27 PM
Talib is not a producer

He produced "Four Women," "Yo Yeah," "Quality," and a few others.  Hi-Tek does a lot of stuff with him.  It would be cool if Game could do some work with Kweli & Hi-Tek
Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: Jimmy H. on September 18, 2011, 09:20:29 PM
Dude should just do it Makaveli-style. Take the lesser-known guys from his camp and produce it all in-house.
Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: Bungalow on September 18, 2011, 10:18:05 PM
Ervine Pope always comes with bangers
Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: love33 on September 19, 2011, 01:26:33 PM
In-house or Will.I.Am all the way.   Most agree that he def needs an experienced Executive Producer that has a history of executive producing big albums.  I think Game is one of those dudes where every song he does sounds good to himself, and he struggles to differentiate what the singles should be and the records that should make the album versus the ones that should be kept off or left for the mixtapes.  A good executive producer could point his artwork and creativity in the right direction.  He's like an athlete that's mega-talented but needs a good coach to guide him in the right direction.  When he had 50, he helped him put together the projects with the right tracks and helped him pick out the singles from the creative standpoint.
Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: PhunkyDoob on September 19, 2011, 01:51:05 PM
In-house or Will.I.Am all the way.   Most agree that he def needs an experienced Executive Producer that has a history of executive producing big albums.  I think Game is one of those dudes where every song he does sounds good to himself, and he struggles to differentiate what the singles should be and the records that should make the album versus the ones that should be kept off or left for the mixtapes.  A good executive producer could point his artwork and creativity in the right direction.  He's like an athlete that's mega-talented but needs a good coach to guide him in the right direction.  When he had 50, he helped him put together the projects with the right tracks and helped him pick out the singles from the creative standpoint.

I agree. Always felt like this has been one of the "problems" with him. I'm sure the label has some input also as with many artists but aside from that i def think dude needs help when it comes to executive production and from someone who really knows Game and his strong points-weak points instead of the yes men or the people trying to sell records for the company.
Title: Re: Producers for Game
Post by: xxrayrayxx on September 19, 2011, 03:53:06 PM
Game should do a whole album with J.R. Rotem - "State Of Emergency" and "California Vacation" were bangin' 8)

Yeah man he doesnt have one bad track with JR. I would like to see an album with Mars/JR/Khalil. Those three are all you need.