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Title: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on October 21, 2011, 08:17:32 AM
a good read


http://www.complex.com/music/2011/08/the-50-worst-rap-album-fails3/its-on
Title: Re: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: Okka on October 21, 2011, 08:20:48 AM
"It's On (Dr. Dre) 187Um Killa" is a classic album. Always been my favorite release from Eazy-E. It doesn't deserve to be on that list.
Title: Re: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: HighEyeCue on October 21, 2011, 09:11:51 AM
"It's On (Dr. Dre) 187Um Killa" is a classic album. Always been my favorite release from Eazy-E. It doesn't deserve to be on that list.

can't take that list seriously as a result of that
Title: Re: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: Blood$ on October 21, 2011, 09:32:50 AM
I agree with these being on the list but some needed to be higher up than others:

Kingdome Come
Crunk Rock
BTNH Resurrection
I'm Gay
Blood Money
Year Of The Dog Again
Welcome Back
Electric Circus
No Mercy
Best of Both Worlds
The Firm
Rebirth
Can-I-Bus
Nastradamus

didn't agree with:

Doggfather (Malice N Wonderland was MUCH worse)
It's On 187um Killa (more of an EP than an album, shouldn't have even counted)
Lethal Injection (big WTF here, this is Cube's favorite album to some and my second)
Forever (I don't care if it was Puffy, this had some gems on it and his Press Play album was much worse)
Last 2 Walk (sure it had a few horrible tracks and was kinda scattered in parts, but still not a bad album overall)

never heard the rest of the albums, interesting read though
Title: Re: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on October 21, 2011, 09:39:09 AM
"It's On (Dr. Dre) 187Um Killa" is a classic album. Always been my favorite release from Eazy-E. It doesn't deserve to be on that list.


 sure as hell isnt a classic..
Title: Re: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on October 21, 2011, 10:14:55 AM
"Complex" isn't a Rap/Hip Hop magazine, they're more like a male Caucasian Teenager to Early 30's type of magazine - they're not really all that well rounded when it comes to Hip Hop and Porn (had to say it).  


I agree with homie, "It's On" shouldn't have counted either becuz it's 5half songs deep.  And it's funny that this EP was brought back up becuz i was just saying again tha other month on here (after somebody bumped an old thread) that this EP COULDNT be considered a classic even if it's Classic front to back.  If Eazy woulda just saved more of his material and released "It's On" with "5150" and I'm sure an unreleased track or two then Eazy could've had 1 of the greatest ALBUMS of the early 90's and he would've surpassed his sophomore jinx (which i think he was a tad bit worried about at tha time considering how big Death Row was).


Other than that almost half of that list is garbage (honestly not a surprise).  "BTNHRessurrection" >>>>>>>>> "The Art of War" so that's all I'ma say about that 1.  "Lethal Injection" really was a WTF moment and where was "Watch The Throne"?  


Asking me to take head from "Complex" magazine is like going to Taco Bell and getting a Triple Bacon Cheeseburger with everything on it.
Title: Re: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: Blood$ on October 21, 2011, 10:17:48 AM
actually BTNH Resurrection was cool, it was Thug World Order that sucked ass so switch those 2 around
Title: Re: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on October 21, 2011, 10:20:12 AM
actually BTNH Resurrection was cool, it was Thug World Order that sucked ass so switch those 2 around


exactly.  i can't call "TWO" wack but i wasn't impressed when i brought it.


"BTNH Ressurection" HAD A FEW GEMS from Bone Thugs on there.... (here's 1)

http://www.youtube.com//v/bdHxyYwJ7T4
(and that's wack......  ::) right)
Title: Re: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: Blood$ on October 21, 2011, 10:21:58 AM
TWO had like 3-4 good songs, and that was one of them... but the rest I don't remember for good reasons
Title: Re: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: Lil Sleazy on October 21, 2011, 10:37:27 AM
Weird list. Never even heard of many of those albums.

I like the articles Complex does with artists though.
Title: Re: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: 2euce 7even on October 21, 2011, 11:55:40 AM
"It's On (Dr. Dre) 187Um Killa" is a classic album. Always been my favorite release from Eazy-E. It doesn't deserve to be on that list.

can't take that list seriously as a result of that
Title: Re: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: Jimmy H. on October 21, 2011, 12:35:20 PM
Some of you are really missing the point with the article. It's not naming the worst albums ever or the worst of said artists' careers but more pointing out albums where the artist in question pissed away their momentum.
While I don't agree with every selection, I feel it's a pretty accurate list.

With Eazy's 187 Killa EP, you have to remember that this was the break-up of NWA. Dre had gone on to "The Chronic" which proved to be huge for his career where this release was seen as kind of just a smaller-scale attempt to answer it and piggyback off the controversy. It wasn't overly well-received in its time and while "Real Muthaphuckin' G'z" has proven to have staying power, nothing much else from that release really took flight. Many people had close the books on Ruthless until Bone Thugs came along. It wasn't until Eazy died, that the tide started to shift in terms of public opinion.

Title: Re: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: Lil Sleazy on October 21, 2011, 12:43:02 PM
I think the point of the article was to get us to click "next" 50 times to see 50 different ads. That's why they've added any album they could come up with a lil hater blurb for. ;)
Title: Re: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: bouli77 on October 21, 2011, 02:13:54 PM
Some of you are really missing the point with the article. It's not naming the worst albums ever or the worst of said artists' careers but more pointing out albums where the artist in question pissed away their momentum.
While I don't agree with every selection, I feel it's a pretty accurate list.

With Eazy's 187 Killa EP, you have to remember that this was the break-up of NWA. Dre had gone on to "The Chronic" which proved to be huge for his career where this release was seen as kind of just a smaller-scale attempt to answer it and piggyback off the controversy. It wasn't overly well-received in its time and while "Real Muthaphuckin' G'z" has proven to have staying power, nothing much else from that release really took flight. Many people had close the books on Ruthless until Bone Thugs came along. It wasn't until Eazy died, that the tide started to shift in terms of public opinion.



true. it still managed to score 4x plat, more than The Chronic. but yeah Ruthless momentum died down nonetheless until Bone Thugs came in the picture.

I do think It's On Dr. Dre 187 Um Killa is a classic though. The production is amazing (thank you Rhythm D., Yella, Hutch & Madness 4 Real) and Real Muthaphukkin' G'z is one of the fiercest diss songs ever written, much more on point and à propos than Fuck With Dre Day (which is an absolute jewel musically speaking but not an efficient diss song).
Title: Re: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: Okka on October 22, 2011, 09:05:18 AM
"It's On (Dr. Dre) 187Um Killa" is a classic album. Always been my favorite release from Eazy-E. It doesn't deserve to be on that list.


 sure as hell isnt a classic..

It is, in my opinion and i know a lot of people who agree with me. I love all the songs on the EP.
Title: Re: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on October 22, 2011, 09:32:51 AM
people are throwing around the world "classic" very freely nowadays
if an album is 15 years old, its a "classic"
Title: Re: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: 13th Duke on October 23, 2011, 10:02:31 AM
I thought this article was shit to be honest. I wouldnt call it a good read. I'm not going to sit here and call a lot of the albums on there classics but of the 50 in there, maybe only 20 of them are truly 'bad' albums. It just seems like Complex needed to fill up their web content and went reaching.
Title: Re: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: D-TalkX on October 23, 2011, 12:57:48 PM
Interesting read for sure...mostly based on one guys opinion on a lot of reviews but some he got right. Rae's Immobilarity is one of the worst albums I ever heard. I remember poppin' that in and laughin it was so bad ha.
Title: Re: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: D-TalkX on October 23, 2011, 12:59:03 PM
Still don't get how ppl think Doggfather was bad...It was just "different" but still consider it to be an awesome album. Ton of big tunes.
Title: Re: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: Jimmy H. on October 23, 2011, 01:56:33 PM
Again, I think people are misunderstanding the idea behind the article. They aren't syaing these are the WORST albums in rap or even the worst ones in the respective rapper's careers. They are naming the albums that were the worst career steps. For instance, Doggfather isn't a bad album but as a follow-up to Doggystyle, it really killed some momentum. If you list albums like Nastradamous. Dre presents The Aftermath. Puff Daddy Forever. Canibus' debut. The Firm. Doggfather. Mobb Deep Blood Money. The MC Hammer gangsta album. Kris Kross' second album. Ja Ruke Blood In The Eye. There is kind of a theme going there and I think they are fairly perceptive in that regard. Again, we all have. It's more about bad timing than bad albums.
Title: Re: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: 13th Duke on October 23, 2011, 02:06:42 PM
Again, I think people are misunderstanding the idea behind the article. They aren't syaing these are the WORST albums in rap or even the worst ones in the respective rapper's careers. They are naming the albums that were the worst career steps. For instance, Doggfather isn't a bad album but as a follow-up to Doggystyle, it really killed some momentum. If you list albums like Nastradamous. Dre presents The Aftermath. Puff Daddy Forever. Canibus' debut. The Firm. Doggfather. Mobb Deep Blood Money. The MC Hammer gangsta album. Kris Kross' second album. Ja Ruke Blood In The Eye. There is kind of a theme going there and I think they are fairly perceptive in that regard. Again, we all have. It's more about bad timing than bad albums.

No I completely understand the article. And I still disagree with more than half the choices. And if what you're saying is the case then the title of the article is nonsense.
Title: Re: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: Dre-Day on October 24, 2011, 01:59:11 AM
i'm surprised they didn't list helter skelter
Title: Re: The 50 Worst Rap Album Fails
Post by: Raphael on October 24, 2011, 06:51:00 AM
I know that a lot of people were disappointed in "Beats Rhymes and Life" but it shouldn't have been that high up on the list.