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Title: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Shot Callin on November 24, 2011, 09:56:00 PM
He's a good lyricist but just ain't quite on that dogg pound, gangsta rap level that I grew up loving. Where's that west coast gangsta shit these days... seems like it's getting watered down to pop rap.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Trizzle on November 25, 2011, 01:37:49 AM
he's too smart for gangsta shit and i love what he do
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Post by: 2euce 7even on November 25, 2011, 01:51:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amAS6VKeq-U

listen to this, i luv gangsta rap as well, miss it but kendrick is tha shit.and to tell u tha truth i hate new music im stuck in 90īs but there are few cats that do it for me: game, nip huss, jay rock, kendrick THAT`S ALL.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: RingMan on November 25, 2011, 02:24:31 AM
he's too smart for gangsta shit and i love what he do
yeah and he didn't say that he is gangster, gangsta rap is played out, look where Dogg Pound are now. you can listen to good alternative rappers or to wack gangsters.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Si-Chiggedy on November 25, 2011, 03:08:30 AM
by the way, he was never caliming himself as being a gangster. to the contrary he actually said in some songs that the real gang bangers respect his way of thinking because he drops some real music. and I really gotta laugh when someone's telling stuff like "where's the gangsta rap at these days". imo 85% of all the new shit dropping is still gangsta rap or pretending to be, at least regarding the lyrics. So this thread is stupid. Kendrick never said he was gangsta. If you dont like him because of that, then go on and bump all the other shit from dpg to wc to mitchy slick or whoever.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Lucifuge on November 25, 2011, 03:40:46 AM
Thanks God, he aint wonna be crip or blood.
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Post by: OG Jaydc on November 25, 2011, 07:15:38 AM
Jay rock dropped a solid album. It's more in line with westcoast gangsta rap.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Fonkarround on November 25, 2011, 09:13:53 AM
I highly doubt that there ever will be gangsta rap like we know it. It is done arleady (years ago actually). Its hard to think about tho, but its time to move on.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: swe iz active on November 25, 2011, 09:50:05 AM
jay rock a real g tho and he dropped his album this year, it was of tha chaiinnn!! kendrick is a smart cat and knows what he wants, who wants to gangbang instead of making millions of dollars?  ::)
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Slee-Z on November 25, 2011, 10:15:26 AM
Don't really agree with this. Section 80 is the only thing I've heard from him tho.

He might not be into set tripping but Kendrick Lamar is more gangsta than most so-called gangsta rap.

Or at least closer to say early NWA stuff or whatever.

Dark themes, including crime, viewed from a young urban persons perspective. Based on realism and blurring the line between "good and evil".
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Chamillitary Click on November 25, 2011, 10:17:03 AM
Oh, nooooo! He's not a real OG. Now I gotta delete his album from my iPod.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 25, 2011, 10:24:23 AM
LMAO @ he's not the gangster rap I know and love.

Welcome to 2011. Gangster rap is dead. G-funk is dead. Be thankful that there are still some individuals like Kendrick Lamar who understand that and are trying to do something different and not try to rehash a genre of music like gangsta rap that's been done to death over the last 25 years.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Eazy-Duz-It on November 25, 2011, 10:37:37 AM
Kendrick Lamar never claimed to be a gangster. That shit played out years ago.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: aerroc on November 25, 2011, 11:05:17 AM
He's a good lyricist but just ain't quite on that dogg pound, gangsta rap level that I grew up loving. Where's that west coast gangsta shit these days... seems like it's getting watered down to pop rap.

check out the track let me be me off his e.p
i see this guy blowing up big time soon
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Smackdog on November 25, 2011, 11:48:24 AM
Oh, nooooo! He's not a real OG. Now I gotta delete his album from my iPod.


this is what I'm thinking..........
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: ThaRealSupreme on November 25, 2011, 12:12:09 PM
Quote from: Trizzle link=topic=275574.msg 2775900#msg 2775900 date=1322213869
he's too smart for gangsta shit and i love what he do

Exactly.

I'm sick of gangsta rap 'cause at the end of the day those rappers aren't sayin shit about nothin I do in real life. It's like watchin a fictional movie...it sounds good but c'mon most of them aren't really doin it neither. K.Lamar rap about real shit with skill.
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Post by: b.laden on November 25, 2011, 12:24:28 PM
gangsta rap is not played out ..everybody from alaska to bangladesh listen to  gangstsa rap
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Post by: TheRemedy360Ressurection on November 25, 2011, 12:32:31 PM
Kendrick don't rap about 6-4s, hos, khakis and killing gangstas on his songs! Fuck him, he ain't shit  8)
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Cordozzar Drakko on November 25, 2011, 12:55:30 PM
He's a good lyricist but just ain't quite on that dogg pound, gangsta rap level that I grew up loving. Where's that west coast gangsta shit these days...

Tha Hustle Boyz are advertised as "the new" Dogg Pound. They been working with Daz & Snoop since day one. (I think one of them is another cousin of Snoop's. (Yeah this guy has so many cousins in the industry it's unbelievable!) They even produced & featured on their early shit (Snoop as Niggaracci). Now whether they'll have the longevity & leave the legacy of Tha Dogg Pound remains to be seen, but they sure as shit are good, solo & duo & HBMG. They definitely following in the footsteps...
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Matty on November 25, 2011, 01:51:27 PM
i don't think the OP could be serious with that statement, the thread is a joke. lol @ the serious replies.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Smackdog on November 25, 2011, 02:41:52 PM
he is an og who never did wrong
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Matty on November 25, 2011, 03:04:22 PM
he is an og who never did wrong

west west y'all 8)
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: TheWestCoast on November 25, 2011, 04:47:46 PM
but they fuck wit him and bitch he love it
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: k-dogg on November 25, 2011, 06:29:59 PM
Lotta respect for Kendrick...I love Dr. Dre's production, his music in general but I consider myself a Dre fan to this day mainly cause back in the day during the Chronic, Doggystyle era, Dre was asked in an interview (I believe it was MTV), something to the effect of "was he a real gangsta??"...Dre replied something like, " I ain't no gangsta..I'm just trying to make me some money..Anybody don't like it, I'ma have to knock them out"...Baby faced Dre laughed after that and I knew then I could relate to him...You have to understand that then and even now, dudes was claiming "gangsta for real" and knew they was lying both in their raps and interviews....Nothing wrong with what Kendrick is doing today and of course he unlike Dre is a real dope lyricist.. I also loved the gangsta/g-funk era but fellas, we gonna have to get over it....Down the  road another Dre & Snoop, Eazy, NWA will emerge and probably bring it back cause all things in music come around and go around but for now, just enjoy a talent like Kendrick and move on.     
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: IbblesAndBits on November 25, 2011, 07:37:27 PM
but they fuck wit him and bitch he love it



damn straight
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: 2euce 7even on November 25, 2011, 11:33:18 PM
kendrick is not a gangsta, he never claimed to be, he keeps it real.much respect 2 him for that.
one of the new cats i respect and thatīs something rare..i dont fuck with new music
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: southcentralLA on November 26, 2011, 09:19:28 PM
Kendrick never claimed to be a gangsta, shit most real gangstas will tell you in a heart beat if you have a better way and don't have to get into this shit DON'T!!!!  It is a lot of cats from Compton, South Central, Watts, Long Beach etc. that aren't bangers can you believe that???  That doesn't mean he doesn't know bangers or have bangers in his family but dude know his lane and I respect him for not trying to be something he is not.....
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: AK on November 28, 2011, 03:05:38 PM
We off that Murder/killing people shit

its 2011-12, positive movement aka feel good music. Who the fuck wants to hear a skit of drive by shooting sounds
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: West Coast Veteran on November 28, 2011, 04:14:59 PM
Kendrick is like an early Ice Cube... from the street, grew up around gangsters and just reports what he's seen in his life in his music.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on November 28, 2011, 06:35:42 PM
he's too smart for gangsta shit and i love what he do
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: The_Offence on November 28, 2011, 07:21:48 PM
neither is game or ice cube. so whats your point ?
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on November 28, 2011, 10:25:13 PM
i don't think the OP could be serious with that statement, the thread is a joke. lol @ the serious replies.

On an ordinary forum I would assume that but here....and you wonder why we clown some of the people here.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Raje on November 29, 2011, 08:31:51 AM
Nipsey?
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Hoodlum204 on November 29, 2011, 08:34:40 AM
Can't Believe This Thread Made It To 2 Pages. Smh
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: BOX5 the best poster on this site yell on November 29, 2011, 09:02:21 PM
I honestly never understood the whole fascination with gangsta rap,especially if you lived alot of the Shit yourself.  Lamar is a knot mc he actually would have been nice in any era yell
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Shot Callin on November 29, 2011, 10:06:44 PM
Ok, ok I get everyone's opinions here. I agree-- Kendrick is a dope lyricist-- unrivaled lyrically by nearly all rappers out there currently.

I am a big fan of beats and instrumentals that go behind the artist. And the beats Kendrick spits on are A) not that great, and B) not that funky or soulful...

I'm going to say it: Kendrick is kind of like a Black Eminem-- he can spit a dope rap (although more intelligently than Eminem), but where's that smooth funky flow? I guess that's what I miss the most. He is a great & talented artist and I respect that he doesn't fake shit or be a studio gangster. I just aint feeling his beats that much.

If Dre picked him up and produced (or oversaw the production) of a Kendrick Lamar album, now THAT MIGHT BE TIGHT. But with all the wack (yes I said it) production on his songs, I'm sorry, I'm gonna call a spade a spade. I don't hear any top 40 beats in there. His voice can get a little annoying too, but it's bearable because of his intelligence and wit.

Dope MC. Wack beats.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Shot Callin on November 29, 2011, 10:15:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amAS6VKeq-U

listen to this, i luv gangsta rap as well, miss it but kendrick is tha shit.and to tell u tha truth i hate new music im stuck in 90īs but there are few cats that do it for me: game, nip huss, jay rock, kendrick THAT`S ALL.

It's aight. His lyrics are dope. But the beat is average, and his flow while on-spot, is lacking that rhythm and flow that I love so much from gangsta rap
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on November 29, 2011, 10:42:46 PM
Kendrick sounds nothing like Eminem. They have literally NOTHING in common.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Shot Callin on November 29, 2011, 10:52:51 PM
They have the rap flow of a white person in common.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: RingMan on November 30, 2011, 02:04:47 AM
Ok, ok I get everyone's opinions here. I agree-- Kendrick is a dope lyricist-- unrivaled lyrically by nearly all rappers out there currently.

I am a big fan of beats and instrumentals that go behind the artist. And the beats Kendrick spits on are A) not that great, and B) not that funky or soulful...

I'm going to say it: Kendrick is kind of like a Black Eminem-- he can spit a dope rap (although more intelligently than Eminem), but where's that smooth funky flow? I guess that's what I miss the most. He is a great & talented artist and I respect that he doesn't fake shit or be a studio gangster. I just aint feeling his beats that much.

If Dre picked him up and produced (or oversaw the production) of a Kendrick Lamar album, now THAT MIGHT BE TIGHT. But with all the wack (yes I said it) production on his songs, I'm sorry, I'm gonna call a spade a spade. I don't hear any top 40 beats in there. His voice can get a little annoying too, but it's bearable because of his intelligence and wit.

Dope MC. Wack beats.
Beat selection is the best feature of his albums for me. I hope his debut is produced by his team with few beats from big names like J. Cole or Just Blaze.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on November 30, 2011, 09:42:07 AM
They have the rap flow of a white person in common.

I don't think you know what a white person sounds like. Either you're trolling or incredibly ignorant.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: RJ642 on November 30, 2011, 09:51:07 AM
Yeah he is more thought provoking which we need also

Hopefully someone steps up in that hard gangsta hole soon
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on November 30, 2011, 10:51:15 AM
Hopefully someone steps up in that hard gangsta hole soon

Freddie Gibbs?
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 30, 2011, 11:52:09 AM
Sad thing is......you're favorite gangsta rapper most likely ain't a gangsta no more so why is this even an issue?

Image > music to most of you cats. Shameful.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Dikteta Dax on December 01, 2011, 01:10:24 AM
Dr Dre beats would ruin Kendrick Lamar, not everyone sounds tight to Dre beats...

and how the fuck does kendrick rap like a white person?
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: PhunkyDoob on December 01, 2011, 05:45:13 AM
and how the fuck does kendrick rap like a white person?

Cuz black people walk like this, and white people walk like this..smh.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Shot Callin on December 01, 2011, 08:51:05 PM
his voice doesn't sound like a white person, but his flow does. lack of soul/funk
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 01, 2011, 09:14:34 PM
Kendrick IS "gangsta".  Just for being himself. 
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: 2euce 7even on December 01, 2011, 10:52:21 PM
Kendrick IS "gangsta".  Just for being himself. 

best post in this thread. close it already.smh. "kendrick ainīt gangsta" lol STFU hoe, iīm cut u off :D
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: TheRemedy360Ressurection on December 01, 2011, 11:39:31 PM
I agree to an extent that some of his production could be better, but it definitely doesn't take much away from him for me. He's not cut from the same cloth as most rappers that came out of the West so it wouldn't make sense for him to look for production that emulates them.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on December 02, 2011, 01:23:34 AM
his voice doesn't sound like a white person, but his flow does. lack of soul/funk

soul and funk (I assume you're talking about the music genres) have nothing to do with flow. If anything his flow sounds like Kanye.

Question. What is a white dude doing even speaking on what it means to "sound black"? You give wiggers on the internet a bad name.
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Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on December 02, 2011, 03:17:06 PM
his voice doesn't sound like a white person, but his flow does. lack of soul/funk

soul and funk (I assume you're talking about the music genres) have nothing to do with flow. If anything his flow sounds like Kanye.

Question. What is a white dude doing even speaking on what it means to "sound black"? You give wiggers on the internet a bad name.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Shot Callin on December 02, 2011, 07:24:37 PM
his voice doesn't sound like a white person, but his flow does. lack of soul/funk

soul and funk (I assume you're talking about the music genres) have nothing to do with flow. If anything his flow sounds like Kanye.

Question. What is a white dude doing even speaking on what it means to "sound black"? You give wiggers on the internet a bad name.

You know, now that I think about it some more it's mostly the beats that are lacking the soulful quality I wanting so bad. The Dogg Pound has it for example. Whatever you want to name that quality/sound. It's probably just that gangster rap quality I'm wanting so much that isn't there.

Secondly, in response to your little barbed comment, I can appreciate and critique music no matter what skin color I am. It's an honest opinion. I will continue to listen to him and other artists, but just wondering what other people thought.  Obviously a lot of people like him. I do too-- he brings a lot of positivity to the table. But he's (to me) not a new-age (modern version) of Snoop's Doggystyle or Dre's Chronic. I know these times have passed, but I'm still looking for that next amazing thing and I don't feel this is it.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamar ain't gangster
Post by: Shot Callin on December 02, 2011, 07:27:08 PM
his voice doesn't sound like a white person, but his flow does. lack of soul/funk

soul and funk (I assume you're talking about the music genres) have nothing to do with flow. If anything his flow sounds like Kanye.

Question. What is a white dude doing even speaking on what it means to "sound black"? You give wiggers on the internet a bad name.

You know, now that I think about it some more it's mostly the beats that are lacking the soulful quality I wanting so bad. The Dogg Pound has it for example. Whatever you want to name that quality/sound. It's probably just that gangster rap quality I'm wanting so much that isn't there.

Secondly, in response to your little barbed comment, I can appreciate and critique music no matter what skin color I am. It's an honest opinion. I will continue to listen to him and other artists, but just wondering what other people thought.  Obviously a lot of people like him. I do too-- he brings a lot of positivity to the table. But he's (to me) not a new-age (modern version) of Snoop's Doggystyle or Dre's Chronic. I know these times have passed, but I'm still looking for that next amazing thing and I don't feel this is it. But to each his own. His record sales and mass appeal will be the true judge of his success.