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Title: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on December 01, 2011, 07:16:27 PM
Well it's too late for this game. I went 9-7 last week, 38-22 total

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Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Lunatic on December 01, 2011, 07:29:56 PM
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Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: TheRemedy360Ressurection on December 01, 2011, 09:10:20 PM
Marshawn Lynch is an animal. We could easily be in the wild card spot if we were more consistent, but at the same time, Carroll virtually overhauled the entire roster so the growing pains were invenitiable

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Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on December 02, 2011, 01:03:36 PM
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Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on December 02, 2011, 02:13:40 PM
Yeah, lynch is an animal. It's crazy to think the bills had him AND Fred Jackson plus cj spiller and still couldn't do shit.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Shallow on December 02, 2011, 05:10:13 PM
Yeah, lynch is an animal. It's crazy to think the bills had him AND Fred Jackson plus cj spiller and still couldn't do shit.


The only reason they traded him was that there was no room for 3 backs and they had just spent a very high draft pick on Spiller. It was the right call to pick Freddie over Marshawn, but CJ never should have been drafted to begin with. They should have drafted the best OL in the draft available, which was Maurkice Pouncy, and settled on the idea that Lynch and Jackson would be enough of a 1/2 punch to work, and we'd be in a much better position right now this season. Lynch's power style would have been the difference in 2 or 3 of our losses, and a pro-bowl caliber center like Pouncy would have helped us win another 1 or 2.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Lunatic on December 02, 2011, 05:24:12 PM
Can't wait to watch my Titans live this Sunday  8)

The Bills fans are gonna hate me  ;D
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on December 02, 2011, 06:10:49 PM
Drafting spiller was dumb. That was the only position on the bills that they had plenty of talent at, with holes everywhere else. Not only that but drafting spiller was a reach. Those type of backs never translate well in the NFL.

The bills drafting has held them back for years, I don't know who does their scouting but it's a failure. That teams had top 15 picks how many years in a row and still have little talent.

Thanks for Aaron maybin though, bills paid him to sack fitz twice.maybins a project but man he's got tons of potential and he's still very young. I've never seen a player with such a relentless motor. He's still got a lot to learn and needs to bulk up but I can't help but be excited for his future with the jets.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: BiggSadot on December 04, 2011, 01:11:59 PM
Titans 7-5 8) 8)
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Dikteta Dax on December 04, 2011, 01:16:31 PM
The Oakland Raiders road to 11-5 begins today!  Terrible loss and we're probably gonna lose next week too.  I was hoping Denver lost but of course in the Raider Nation it doesn't work like that...
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on December 04, 2011, 01:50:49 PM
Jets  8)

Maybin is a fucking beast  :o

Also,it's odd that the last three titans games all ended in 23-17 scores
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Lunatic on December 04, 2011, 08:43:21 PM
Also,it's odd that the last three titans games all ended in 23-17 scores
Duely noted.. I know TB & Buf did, forgot about ATL..

Titans baby  8) 8) 8) I was at this game live and had a great fucking time cheering on my boys!

7-5!! When most analysts predicted a 3-5 win season..
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: TheRemedy360Ressurection on December 05, 2011, 03:18:26 AM
Cam Newton scores his 13th rushing touchdown which leads the league. Amazing.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Shallow on December 05, 2011, 05:45:18 AM
Also,it's odd that the last three titans  all ended in 23-17 scores
Duely noted.. I know TB & Buf did, forgot about ATL..

Titans baby  8) 8) 8) I was at this game live and had a great fucking time cheering on my boys!

7-5!! When most analysts predicted a 3-5 win season..


Most of those predictions, mine included, came in before Hasselbeck was signed and before Peyton was sidelined. That those two things away and you'd be lucky to have 3 wins right now.

My Bills collapsed once they lost their centers. It's not that Kyle Williams is that good, though he is good. It's that they have no replacement NT and moving the rookie Dareus over just hurts the run D even more.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 05, 2011, 07:41:24 AM
Those losses to Oakland & Denver will wind up fucking us in the ass.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Shallow on December 05, 2011, 07:45:18 AM
Those losses to Oakland & Denver will wind up fucking us in the ass.


I can realistically see Denver winning the next two games at home against Chicago and New England.

I'll say this, if Denver can somehow make it to the SB by going into Ne and winning and then beating the undefeated Packers, Tim Tebow will become the most popular athlete on the planet since Michael Jordan.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Lunatic on December 05, 2011, 09:49:14 AM
Also,it's odd that the last three titans  all ended in 23-17 scores
Duely noted.. I know TB & Buf did, forgot about ATL..

Titans baby  8) 8) 8) I was at this game live and had a great fucking time cheering on my boys!

7-5!! When most analysts predicted a 3-5 win season..


Most of those predictions, mine included, came in before Hasselbeck was signed and before Peyton was sidelined. That those two things away and you'd be lucky to have 3 wins right now.

My Bills collapsed once they lost their centers. It's not that Kyle Williams is that good, though he is good. It's that they have no replacement NT and moving the rookie Dareus over just hurts the run D even more.
LMAO that makes no sense. So if Peyton wasn't sidelined, we'd be a 3 win team? We've played the Colts once...I'd love to know how you figure that?

And the Hasselbeck signing comment is even more dumb. "The Packers wouldn't be so good if they didn't draft Rodgers a few years ago." You see what I did there? Stupid..

We signed a QB...  ???

And no, most of the predictions I saw came after we signed Hasselbeck.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on December 05, 2011, 12:27:20 PM
Those losses to Oakland & Denver will wind up fucking us in the ass.

I don't. Bengals are going to be lucky to finish 9-7. Denver and raiders will fight it out for the division, the winner will finish 9-7, the loser 8-8. The only team we have to worry about is the titans, but they aren't beating the saints next week. If we win out, we're in.simple as that. But realistically I think we go 10-6 like I predicted  and take that spot. Anything can happen, but that's how I see it. The key is out offensive line is finally clicking. That's two weeks in a row they have looked great and haven't given up a sack.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Lunatic on December 05, 2011, 12:37:16 PM
Those losses to Oakland & Denver will wind up fucking us in the ass.

I don't. Bengals are going to be lucky to finish 9-7. Denver and raiders will fight it out for the division, the winner will finish 9-7, the loser 8-8. The only team we have to worry about is the titans, but they aren't beating the saints next week. If we win out, we're in.simple as that. But realistically I think we go 10-6 like I predicted  and take that spot. Anything can happen, but that's how I see it. The key is out offensive line is finally clicking. That's two weeks in a row they have looked great and haven't given up a sack.
Keep in mind the Titans can very realistically go 10-6 (new orleans, jax, indy, hou).. we're gonna beat indy & jax, and hopefully get 1 more win.. if the jets/titans finish 10-6, will have the tiebreaker over you guys  ;)

you guys need to win out imo
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on December 05, 2011, 12:42:57 PM
I say you finish 9-7, one off from what I predicted.But who knows, the next four weeks are going to be crazy.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Lunatic on December 05, 2011, 01:02:41 PM
I say you finish 9-7, one off from what I predicted.But who knows, the next four weeks are going to be crazy.
You'll need us to lose to both hou & nwo in that case. Considering hou is week 17 and they'll have the division wrapped up by then, they'll likely be resting,

or hope we drop one to indy or jax lol

not saying it's impossible we go 9-7, but I like our chances of 10-6
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Shallow on December 05, 2011, 01:50:10 PM
Also,it's odd that the last three titans  all ended in 23-17 scores
Duely noted.. I know TB & Buf did, forgot about ATL..

Titans baby  8) 8) 8) I was at this game live and had a great fucking time cheering on my boys!

7-5!! When most analysts predicted a 3-5 win season..



Most of those predictions, mine included, came in before Hasselbeck was signed and before Peyton was sidelined. That those two things away and you'd be lucky to have 3 wins right now.

My Bills collapsed once they lost their centers. It's not that Kyle Williams is that good, though he is good. It's that they have no replacement NT and moving the rookie Dareus over just hurts the run D even more.
LMAO that makes no sense. So if Peyton wasn't sidelined, we'd be a 3 win team? We've played the Colts once...I'd love to know how you figure that?

And the Hasselbeck signing comment is even more dumb. "The Packers wouldn't be so good if they didn't draft Rodgers a few years ago." You see what I did there? Stupid..

We signed a QB...  ???

And no, most of the predictions I saw came after we signed Hasselbeck.



All I can speak for is my prediction; and it came before Hasselbeck was signed. Peyton playing this year gives you two losses guaranteed, one already, and one on the way. Locker or whoever they would have started would have given you losses against Baltimore, Denver, TB in my opinion. That's 3 less, 4 less with Peyton against Indy, giving you a current 3-9 record, 4 and 8 maybe. And with the Saints, Colts and Texans coming up that'd been 3 more losses, which will now be 2 more losses because of no Peyton, and I still don't expect you to do much against Wade's defense in Houston come Jan 1st.

And once Matt was in there and then Peyton was a no show I agreed that you guys would be at least be in the WC hunt all season, and you can check my posts. But early in the off season I had you guys fighting for last in the division. It's not that you simply signed a QB, or even a vet. It's that you signed someone I believed in that made me more hopeful. Had it been Delhomme or McNabb I wouldn't have been so uppy on your Titans, and once Peyton went down I called for no wins by the Colts until he comes back.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Lunatic on December 05, 2011, 03:23:01 PM
Also,it's odd that the last three titans  all ended in 23-17 scores
Duely noted.. I know TB & Buf did, forgot about ATL..

Titans baby  8) 8) 8) I was at this game live and had a great fucking time cheering on my boys!

7-5!! When most analysts predicted a 3-5 win season..



Most of those predictions, mine included, came in before Hasselbeck was signed and before Peyton was sidelined. That those two things away and you'd be lucky to have 3 wins right now.

My Bills collapsed once they lost their centers. It's not that Kyle Williams is that good, though he is good. It's that they have no replacement NT and moving the rookie Dareus over just hurts the run D even more.
LMAO that makes no sense. So if Peyton wasn't sidelined, we'd be a 3 win team? We've played the Colts once...I'd love to know how you figure that?

And the Hasselbeck signing comment is even more dumb. "The Packers wouldn't be so good if they didn't draft Rodgers a few years ago." You see what I did there? Stupid..

We signed a QB...  ???

And no, most of the predictions I saw came after we signed Hasselbeck.



All I can speak for is my prediction; and it came before Hasselbeck was signed. Peyton playing this year gives you two losses guaranteed, one already, and one on the way. Locker or whoever they would have started would have given you losses against Baltimore, Denver, TB in my opinion. That's 3 less, 4 less with Peyton against Indy, giving you a current 3-9 record, 4 and 8 maybe. And with the Saints, Colts and Texans coming up that'd been 3 more losses, which will now be 2 more losses because of no Peyton, and I still don't expect you to do much against Wade's defense in Houston come Jan 1st.

And once Matt was in there and then Peyton was a no show I agreed that you guys would be at least be in the WC hunt all season, and you can check my posts. But early in the off season I had you guys fighting for last in the division. It's not that you simply signed a QB, or even a vet. It's that you signed someone I believed in that made me more hopeful. Had it been Delhomme or McNabb I wouldn't have been so uppy on your Titans, and once Peyton went down I called for no wins by the Colts until he comes back.

I'll disregard the Locker thing because it doesn't matter, Hasselbeck is our QB. I could care less about any of the talk before he was signed and wasn't accusing you of anything. I know plenty analysts still had us as a 3-5 win team with Hasselbeck, that was my original point.

Sure Manning MAY give us two losses (I think we'd split with the Colts like we have multiple times in previous years WITH Manning) but we're still not a 3-5 win team.

We're still a 8-9 win team with a healthy Manning in the division.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Shallow on December 05, 2011, 03:28:37 PM


We're still a 8-9 win team with a healthy Manning in the division.


Who cares? All that means is worse draft picks.

And if the Colts can't land Cowher, I hope they get Fisher. You put Fisher wit Manning on the Titans and they'd still be winning Superbowls.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Lunatic on December 05, 2011, 04:15:55 PM


We're still a 8-9 win team with a healthy Manning in the division.


Who cares? All that means is worse draft picks.

And if the Colts can't land Cowher, I hope they get Fisher. You put Fisher wit Manning on the Titans and they'd still be winning Superbowls.
We're gonna get to 10 anyways

Fisher is immensely overrated. He'll run the ball and use Manning and the passing offense as a decoy lol.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Shallow on December 05, 2011, 04:40:12 PM


We're still a 8-9 win team with a healthy Manning in the division.


Who cares? All that means is worse draft picks.

And if the Colts can't land Cowher, I hope they get Fisher. You put Fisher wit Manning on the Titans and they'd still be winning Superbowls.
We're gonna get to 10 anyways

Fisher is immensely overrated. He'll run the ball and use Manning and the passing offense as a decoy lol.

What he is capable of is building a team that is sound enough to win more than zero games with out Manning. And that's all Peyton needs. Although, Polian would just get in the way.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on December 05, 2011, 05:00:50 PM
The colts are more then capable, they threw in the towel without Peyton. I'm sorry but the team isn't that bad. They have a great o-line,top ten receiving core,a top 10 tight end and a middle of the pack defense anchored by two of the nest DE's in the game. They just gave up and it's quite clear. Even before the season you could tell they didn't care, bad mouthing Kerry Collins before he'd even taken a snap in public is pathetic. The team knew it would be difficult and they didn't care to show, choosing to write off the season then attempt to be a middle of the pack team.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Shallow on December 05, 2011, 05:06:51 PM
The colts are more then capable, they threw in the towel without Peyton. I'm sorry but the team isn't that bad. They have a great o-line,top ten receiving core,a top 10 tight end and a middle of the pack defense anchored by two of the nest DE's in the game. They just gave up and it's quite clear. Even before the season you could tell they didn't care, bad mouthing Kerry Collins before he'd even taken a snap in public is pathetic. The team knew it would be difficult and they didn't care to show, choosing to write off the season then attempt to be a middle of the pack team.


I've said for years that they suck with out Peyton, everyone else has been saying that Peyton's weapons is what made him great. 0-12, 2 TDs for Reggie Wayne. I win! Even Ray Lewis said the team is a below average team propped up by Peyton.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Lunatic on December 05, 2011, 05:30:35 PM


We're still a 8-9 win team with a healthy Manning in the division.


Who cares? All that means is worse draft picks.

And if the Colts can't land Cowher, I hope they get Fisher. You put Fisher wit Manning on the Titans and they'd still be winning Superbowls.
We're gonna get to 10 anyways

Fisher is immensely overrated. He'll run the ball and use Manning and the passing offense as a decoy lol.

What he is capable of is building a team that is sound enough to win more than zero games with out Manning. And that's all Peyton needs. Although, Polian would just get in the way.
Fisher will be back in coaching next year but I don't think it'll be with Indy. If Garrett is fired in Dallas, Fisher is the guy 100% - Jerry Jones has a hard on for Fisher. I can see the Chargers job being for Fisher also.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: TheRemedy360Ressurection on December 05, 2011, 06:25:12 PM
The colts are more then capable, they threw in the towel without Peyton. I'm sorry but the team isn't that bad. They have a great o-line,top ten receiving core,a top 10 tight end and a middle of the pack defense anchored by two of the nest DE's in the game. They just gave up and it's quite clear. Even before the season you could tell they didn't care, bad mouthing Kerry Collins before he'd even taken a snap in public is pathetic. The team knew it would be difficult and they didn't care to show, choosing to write off the season then attempt to be a middle of the pack team.


I've said for years that they suck with out Peyton, everyone else has been saying that Peyton's weapons is what made him great. 0-12, 2 TDs for Reggie Wayne. I win! Even Ray Lewis said the team is a below average team propped up by Peyton.

They're obviously not good without him, but that's their own fault. They decide to build their whole fuckin system around this guy to the point where it doesn't operate well without him, along with the fact that they never invested in a decent backup and never invest any time in the guys they do have. Brock Huard (who works for espn seattle) backed up Manning for a few years and talked about how his offensive coordinator didn't even know that he was left handed. The organization has nobody to blame for this but themselves for giving Manning 100% power over the entire offense. Is this same team a playoff team under a different offense? No, but no way they're an 0-16 Andrew Luck team. The organization screwed themselves by riding Manning for so long and they're finally paying the price for it.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on December 05, 2011, 07:18:47 PM
As far as week 17 against Houston for the titans and resting players. Well,  right now they are playing for a first week bye in the playoffs and homefield advantage. It could come down to that very game for them, and likely will. I don't expect them to rest any starters that game. Another thing, I just don't see a team laying down to allow a division rival to get in the playoffs, if it comes down to that game for the titans.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Lunatic on December 05, 2011, 07:54:52 PM
As far as week 17 against Houston for the titans and resting players. Well,  right now they are playing for a first week bye in the playoffs and homefield advantage. It could come down to that very game for them, and likely will. I don't expect them to rest any starters that game. Another thing, I just don't see a team laying down to allow a division rival to get in the playoffs, if it comes down to that game for the titans.
Will see! Will need one win vs NWO or HOU. That's assuming we won't lay an egg vs. Indy or Jax, something extremely unlikely as we're hitting a good stride right now.

I'm just glad to see you're at least slightly concerned  :P
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: BiggSadot on December 05, 2011, 08:14:53 PM
As far as week 17 against Houston for the titans and resting players. Well,  right now they are playing for a first week bye in the playoffs and homefield advantage. It could come down to that very game for them, and likely will. I don't expect them to rest any starters that game. Another thing, I just don't see a team laying down to allow a division rival to get in the playoffs, if it comes down to that game for the titans.

Colts did it for us a couple years back so its not completely unlikely. Only reason for Houston not to do it is if they fear playin us a third time.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 05, 2011, 08:23:15 PM
Those losses to Oakland & Denver will wind up fucking us in the ass.

I don't. Bengals are going to be lucky to finish 9-7. Denver and raiders will fight it out for the division, the winner will finish 9-7, the loser 8-8. The only team we have to worry about is the titans, but they aren't beating the saints next week. If we win out, we're in.simple as that. But realistically I think we go 10-6 like I predicted  and take that spot. Anything can happen, but that's how I see it. The key is out offensive line is finally clicking. That's two weeks in a row they have looked great and haven't given up a sack.

I'm not concerned about the other teams, I'm worried about us winning. We struggled for 3 1/2 quarters against the worst offense in football.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 05, 2011, 08:29:48 PM
& I really don't get the Peyton thing. We've known for years that Curtis Painter doesn't deserve a contract in Canada, obviously they're going to be a bad team. They were never about defense to begin with, plus losing Peyton seriously unmotivated them. & then you're asking Curtis Painter to lead that franchise. He'd drive the Packers into the ground.

I mean, why do you think everyone is saying "wouldn't be such a bad idea to trade Peyton for his value & get Luck a nice additional piece"? Because all this team needs is a QB & they can win some games. It's not like they need Peyton & nobody else. They just need a legitimate starting QB. Brad Smith is probably a better technical quarterback than Curtis Painter.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Shallow on December 06, 2011, 01:34:41 PM
& I really don't get the Peyton thing. We've known for years that Curtis Painter doesn't deserve a contract in Canada, obviously they're going to be a bad team. They were never about defense to begin with, plus losing Peyton seriously unmotivated them. & then you're asking Curtis Painter to lead that franchise. He'd drive the Packers into the ground.

I mean, why do you think everyone is saying "wouldn't be such a bad idea to trade Peyton for his value & get Luck a nice additional piece"? Because all this team needs is a QB & they can win some . It's not like they need Peyton & nobody else. They just need a legitimate starting QB. Brad Smith is probably a better technical quarterback than Curtis Painter.

You got it right the first time. They need Peyton and Peyton alone. Drew Brees on these Colts and they'd look like the Chargers with Drew Brees, except the Chargers were a better built team than Indy is now. It's nobody's fault. It was simply a bad team that looked better than it should have because one guy was that fucking good. What was the only difference between the  the 61-21 '79/'80 Celtics and the 29-53 '78/'79 Celtics? Larry Bird. That's it. It took more than Larry to build a multiple Championships team, but only Larry to build a good team in the hunt for the title. And there was no one the fuck else that could have walked on to that team  and did what Larry did, just like there is no one else that could have taken the 2000s Colts to the playoffs more than twice. Peyton Manning; the rose that grew from concrete.

Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 06, 2011, 08:51:36 PM
^I mean, we'll see with Andrew Luck.

...if that's the way they want to go.
Title: Re: NFL week 13 discussion thread
Post by: Shallow on December 07, 2011, 07:22:31 PM
^I mean, we'll see with Andrew Luck.

...if that's the way they want to go.


Luck will only succeed in Indy if they get rid of the Polians and let a real franchise builder take over. If Cowher were to agree to come to Indy and start over with Luck then I could see big things with in a couple years. But if you throw Luck on the team, as is, then good luck Mr Luck, because he'll make Ryan Leif look like a great pick. Dan Marino in his prime is the only conventional pocket passer that could see any success with these Colts. No other QB can see thingsas fast as you have to in Indy, release it as fast, or spot the ball well enough to make consecutive winning seasons happen in Indy.