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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: LooN3y on January 31, 2012, 01:02:29 AM
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1. Kobe Bryant
2. Allen Iverson
3. Dwayne Wade
4. Ray Allen
5. Vince Carter
6. Manu Ginobili
7. Bradon Roy
8. Richard Hamilton
9. Micheal Redd
10. Gilbert Arenas
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1. Kobe Bryant
2. Allen Iverson
3. Dwyane Wade
4. Ray Allen
5. Vince Carter
6. Gilbert Arenas
7. Steve Francis
8. Manu Ginobili
9. Joe Johnson
10. Latrell Sprewell
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1. Kobe Bryant
2. Allen Iverson
3. Dwayne Wade
4. Ray Allen
5. Vince Carter
6. Manu Ginobili
7. Bradon Roy
8. Richard Hamilton
9. Micheal Redd
10. Gilbert Arenas
no joe johnson?
and who is Bradon roy? lol jk
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in their prime or career?
in terms of career:
Kobe Bryant
Allen Iverson
Dwyane Wade
Ray Allen
Manu Ginobili
Tracy McGrady
Vince Carter
Bradon Roy
Joe Johnson
Monta Ellis
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Brandon roy is the homie and one of my all time fav players but his career was so short i couldnt put him on the list.
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just wanted to point out that Gilbert Arenas played his whole career as a point guard......
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just wanted to point out that Gilbert Arenas played his whole career as a point guard......
and sucked as one
id def consider him a SG who handled the ball
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just wanted to point out that Gilbert Arenas played his whole career as a point guard......
and sucked as one
id def consider him a SG who handled the ball
U can say the same thing about AI, him and AI were only considered pgs cuz of the match ups.
Gilbert is no point guard and I remember early on him starting at the 2 but had to move back to the 1 cuz of mike miller and butler
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Arenas is a bitch nigger, Kobe will sock him in the mouth if he joins the Lakers
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^ I remember having the LeBron/Kobe debate with one of my friends back in high school, and some dude piped in trying to convince us that Gilbert Arenas was the best LOL
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^ I remember having the LeBron/Kobe debate with one of my friends back in high school, and some dude piped in trying to convince us that Gilbert Arenas was the best LOL
a year ago NIK said McGrady was better than Lebron
i guess fanboys will always be fanboys
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^ Well this was back in 06 or 07 so I would hope he doesn't consider Arenas to the best NBA player anymore.
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^ Well this was back in 06 or 07 so I would hope he doesn't consider Arenas to the best NBA player anymore.
when Gilbert was scoring 31 a game he was dope
but that feels like 100 years ago
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Gilbert played the point. He plays the same game as Rose, unless you wanna tell me Rose is a two guard.
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Gilbert played the point. He plays the same game as Rose, unless you wanna tell me Rose is a two guard.
thats how i look at him
iverson 2
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Gilbert played the point. He plays the same game as Rose, unless you wanna tell me Rose is a two guard.
thats how i look at him
iverson 2
That's because Iverson was the two to Eric Snow at point. Iverson just had complete control of the ball.
Gilbert was a scoring point guard.
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just wanted to point out that Gilbert Arenas played his whole career as a point guard......
and sucked as one
id def consider him a SG who handled the ball
U can say the same thing about AI, him and AI were only considered pgs cuz of the match ups.
Gilbert is no point guard and I remember early on him starting at the 2 but had to move back to the 1 cuz of mike miller and butler
thing is, AI played most his career as the 2guard...Arenas played most his career as the point guard. Arena's is ranked amongst point guards, not shooting guards.
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^ I remember having the LeBron/Kobe debate with one of my friends back in high school, and some dude piped in trying to convince us that Gilbert Arenas was the best LOL
a year ago NIK said McGrady was better than Lebron
i guess fanboys will always be fanboys
put it this way...LeBron is closer to McGrady in his prime than he is to any of the NBA greats.
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^ I remember having the LeBron/Kobe debate with one of my friends back in high school, and some dude piped in trying to convince us that Gilbert Arenas was the best LOL
a year ago NIK said McGrady was better than Lebron
i guess fanboys will always be fanboys
put it this way...LeBron is closer to McGrady in his prime than he is to any of the NBA greats.
In terms of what? Kobe never averaged 29, 8 & 7 lol.
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^No T-Mac?
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^ I remember having the LeBron/Kobe debate with one of my friends back in high school, and some dude piped in trying to convince us that Gilbert Arenas was the best LOL
a year ago NIK said McGrady was better than Lebron
i guess fanboys will always be fanboys
put it this way...LeBron is closer to McGrady in his prime than he is to any of the NBA greats.
In terms of what? Kobe never averaged 29, 8 & 7 lol.
and? lebron never averaged 35+ ppg....fact of the matter is- bird, magic, kareem, etc. never averaged "29,8, and 7", but they're all hands down better than lebron.
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lebron could average 35 a game if his team wanted to get swept in the 1st round
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lebron could average 35 a game if his team wanted to get swept in the 1st round
Thank you.
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^No T-Mac?
he played SF & SG and i put him in the SF thread.
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lebron could average 35 a game if his team wanted to get swept in the 1st round
Thank you.
hahahaha you are welcome sir Chammy.
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lebron could average 35 a game if his team wanted to get swept in the 1st round
lol...lebron had his share of whack ass teams where he was the only source of offense. he did not average 35, he had his chance. for the record, we didnt get swept the year kobe averaged 35+
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lebron could average 35 a game if his team wanted to get swept in the 1st round
Thank you.
hahahaha you are welcome sir Chammy.
lmao
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I'd say it's damn near impossible to average 35 points & 8 assists.
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Oscar Robertson: 31 ppg-12.5 rpg-11.4 apg >>>>>>>>>>>> LeBron
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Oscar Robertson: 31 ppg-12.5 rpg-11.4 apg >>>>>>>>>>>> LeBron
Son played in the worst competition in the history of basketball.
If that's your statement, fine. But then you cannot say Wilt isn't the greatest player ever..
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Oscar Robertson: 31 ppg-12.5 rpg-11.4 apg >>>>>>>>>>>> LeBron
Son played in the worst competition in the history of basketball.
If that's your statement, fine. But then you cannot say Wilt isn't the greatest player ever..
oscar robertson aint ya son...more like your great great grandpops
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Oscar Robertson: 31 ppg-12.5 rpg-11.4 apg >>>>>>>>>>>> LeBron
Son played in the worst competition in the history of basketball.
If that's your statement, fine. But then you cannot say Wilt isn't the greatest player ever..
oscar robertson aint ya son...more like your great great grandpops
Interesting way to dodge your idiotic statements.
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Oscar Robertson: 31 ppg-12.5 rpg-11.4 apg >>>>>>>>>>>> LeBron
Son played in the worst competition in the history of basketball.
If that's your statement, fine. But then you cannot say Wilt isn't the greatest player ever..
oscar robertson aint ya son...more like your great great grandpops
Interesting way to dodge your idiotic statements.
how is it idiotic, gayboy? what i said stands....robertson's numbers SHIT on lebron's, and ur the fag who puts so much stake in numbers, not me... i dont give a fuck how shitty u claim the competition was, robertson played against the likes of wilt chamberlain, elgin baylor, jerry west, kareem abdul-jabbar, bill russell etc.....all better than lebron.
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Oscar Robertson: 31 ppg-12.5 rpg-11.4 apg >>>>>>>>>>>> LeBron
Son played in the worst competition in the history of basketball.
If that's your statement, fine. But then you cannot say Wilt isn't the greatest player ever..
oscar robertson aint ya son...more like your great great grandpops
Interesting way to dodge your idiotic statements.
how is it idiotic, gayboy? what i said stands....robertson's numbers SHIT on lebron's, and ur the fag who puts so much stake in numbers, not me... i dont give a fuck how shitty u claim the competition was, robertson played against the likes of wilt chamberlain, elgin baylor, jerry west, kareem abdul-jabbar, bill russell etc.....all better than lebron.
Because outside of everyone you named, you could arguably be as good of a basketball player. Everyone you mentioned besides Jerry West was black & overpowering compared to the rest of the league.
Like I said, you can say Oscar Robertson is better than LeBron, but then you have to admit Wilt was the best. Unless you want to be sensible & recognize the competition was weaker back then.
I like numbers? You like the rings argument. So whose the best player the numbers guy, Wilt Chamberlain or the rings guy, Bill Russell? Kobe doesn't have half as many as Bill.
...That is how it's idiotic, dumbass.
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Oscar Robertson: 31 ppg-12.5 rpg-11.4 apg >>>>>>>>>>>> LeBron
Son played in the worst competition in the history of basketball.
If that's your statement, fine. But then you cannot say Wilt isn't the greatest player ever..
oscar robertson aint ya son...more like your great great grandpops
Interesting way to dodge your idiotic statements.
how is it idiotic, gayboy? what i said stands....robertson's numbers SHIT on lebron's, and ur the fag who puts so much stake in numbers, not me... i dont give a fuck how shitty u claim the competition was, robertson played against the likes of wilt chamberlain, elgin baylor, jerry west, kareem abdul-jabbar, bill russell etc.....all better than lebron.
Because outside of everyone you named, you could arguably be as good of a basketball player. Everyone you mentioned besides Jerry West was black & overpowering compared to the rest of the league.
Like I said, you can say Oscar Robertson is better than LeBron, but then you have to admit Wilt was the best. Unless you want to be sensible & recognize the competition was weaker back then.
I like numbers? You like the rings argument. So whose the best player the numbers guy, Wilt Chamberlain or the rings guy, Bill Russell? Kobe doesn't have half as many as Bill.
...That is how it's idiotic, dumbass.
u dont get it, do u? LOL. YOURE THE ONE WHO USES NUMBERS TO DETERMINE WHO'S GREATER, NOT ME. fuckin idiot.
a good measuring stick for how great a player is=the balance between rings and numbers.
btw, lol@those names overpowering the rest of the league. do some research, son:
jerry lucas, bob pettit, walt bellamy, sam jones, bailey howell, chet walker, bob dandridge, wes unseld, dave cowens, elvin hayes, john havilcek, bob lanier, walt frazier, bob mcadoo......pretty sure u dont know any of these names. but yea, keep fighting the good fight (lebron balls in ur mouth)
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I'd say it's damn near impossible to average 35 points & 8 assists.
lmao in this days NBA it sure is
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I'd say it's damn near impossible to average 35 points & 8 assists.
lmao in this days NBA it sure is
Na, you ain't heard? The competition in the 60's was better than today's. Ask the community idiot.
lol @ NIK's measuring stick being the most convenient to Kobe's career. NIK once again being illogical, proving he fights arguments with personal opinion.
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if the 60s were tougher why doesnt NIK think bill russell is the goat?
11 rings....ELEVEN
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Who cares I put Gilbert as a 2 guard. I see him as a straight scorer combo guard if anything
Put Duncan as a c or pf I don't care, it's ur list and this is mine
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if the 60s were tougher why doesnt NIK think bill russell is the goat?
11 rings....ELEVEN
It's what I'm saying. Son has zero logic.
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if the 60s were tougher why doesnt NIK think bill russell is the goat?
11 rings....ELEVEN
show me where i said the 60s was tougher...i know u aint as dumb as cham
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LMFAO. Then what the fuck are you saying? I'm telling you right now that the 60's was weaker competition, you basically tried to say, "No it wasn't", named fifteen players & said, "Oscar has better numbers than LeBron, therefore Oscar is better". Completely not factoring in the difference between eras.
You're straight up not making sense. If you're defending the 60's like I'm crazy for saying that it was just as competitive, then Oscar/Wilt for the numbers or Russell for rings should be considered your GOAT.
But you defy your own logic & logic of humanity & more or less say, "It's really all about what I think, fuck logic" lmao.
You're one dumb fucking pussy.
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Elior needs to hop off the short bus.
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LMFAO. Then what the fuck are you saying? I'm telling you right now that the 60's was weaker competition, you basically tried to say, "No it wasn't", named fifteen players & said, "Oscar has better numbers than LeBron, therefore Oscar is better". Completely not factoring in the difference between eras.
You're straight up not making sense. If you're defending the 60's like I'm crazy for saying that it was just as competitive, then Oscar/Wilt for the numbers or Russell for rings should be considered your GOAT.
But you defy your own logic & logic of humanity & more or less say, "It's really all about what I think, fuck logic" lmao.
You're one dumb fucking pussy.
gayboy, my point was that robertson didn't play against "weak" competition (like i said)....my point was that robertson put up great numbers against great players. only a fag like u would take that out of context and make it into more than what it is. robertson's era was competitive, obviously, based on the players i listed alone. bottom line, numbers dont determine how great a player is. do they HELP determine? yes. do they tell the whole story? no.
i love how all the gay whiteboys stick up for eachother in this section...plant, cham, and hack aka the crackerfags of the sports section.
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Lol @ bringing race into this. C'mon man.
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i love how all the gay whiteboys stick up for eachother in this section...plant, cham, and hack aka the crackerfags of the sports section.
a jew calling other people white?
now that is funny
"I'm the white kobe" - NIK age 15 on this very forum
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Lol @ bringing race into this. C'mon man.
u serious?...how many times have u heard these nutriders come through with that "jew" bs outta nowhere. just type in "jew" in the dubcc search n see what comes up...race been brought into this a longass time ago, cud.
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i love how all the gay whiteboys stick up for eachother in this section...plant, cham, and hack aka the crackerfags of the sports section.
a jew calling other people white?
now that is funny
"I'm the white kobe" - NIK age 15 on this very forum
jews can be any race/ethnicity, idiot. judaism is a religion smh....n why u gotta make up dumbass quotes when u got nothin 2 say, crack? man up
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i love how all the gay whiteboys stick up for eachother in this section...plant, cham, and hack aka the crackerfags of the sports section.
a jew calling other people white?
now that is funny
"I'm the white kobe" - NIK age 15 on this very forum
jews can be any race/ethnicity, idiot. judaism is a religion smh....n why u gotta make up dumbass quotes when u got nothin 2 say, crack? man up
im not making that quote up buddy boy
in fact i'd even go find the quote but you would just deny it even after lmao
now get your jewass to a synagog, its saturday son
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i love how all the gay whiteboys stick up for eachother in this section...plant, cham, and hack aka the crackerfags of the sports section.
a jew calling other people white?
now that is funny
"I'm the white kobe" - NIK age 15 on this very forum
jews can be any race/ethnicity, idiot. judaism is a religion smh....n why u gotta make up dumbass quotes when u got nothin 2 say, crack? man up
im not making that quote up buddy boy
in fact i'd even go find the quote but you would just deny it even after lmao
now get your jewass to a synagog, its saturday son
lol...yes, crack. when i was 14 i said "people have told me i look like a whiter kobe". never said anything about being "the white kobe".
ima go pray for u...to hop off. my dick AND cham's. i cant tell who's ur currently ridin harder.
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I'm not even getting involved in this tangent. That's what NIK does when he's wrong.
Anyway, NIK. You had no point. You wanted to say "Hahahaha, Oscar > Lebron, the numbers prove it". Not only does that mean I could say LeBron > Kobe, the numbers prove it lol, but then you tried to tell me I was a psycho for thinking the 60's was worse competition. Hack comes in says "LOL, THE 60S HAD GOOD COMPETITION" & you were like "obviously not as good competition", but at the same time you're telling me that the competition was great lmao.
Well if you can admit that the 60's was worse competition, obviously that's why you don't have big men (Wilt) scoring 60-100 points every few games & don't have Oscar putting up better than James numbers. & if you're really sticking behind that the 60's was the best of the best, then Russell obviously had the greatest career of all-time. Pick one, dumbass. Fairly simple.
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on point
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I'm not even getting involved in this tangent. That's what NIK does when he's wrong.
Anyway, NIK. You had no point. You wanted to say "Hahahaha, Oscar > Lebron, the numbers prove it". Not only does that mean I could say LeBron > Kobe, the numbers prove it lol, but then you tried to tell me I was a psycho for thinking the 60's was worse competition. Hack comes in says "LOL, THE 60S HAD GOOD COMPETITION" & you were like "obviously not as good competition", but at the same time you're telling me that the competition was great lmao.
Well if you can admit that the 60's was worse competition, obviously that's why you don't have big men (Wilt) scoring 60-100 points every few games & don't have Oscar putting up better than James numbers. & if you're really sticking behind that the 60's was the best of the best, then Russell obviously had the greatest career of all-time. Pick one, dumbass. Fairly simple.
not my fault that u missed the point, due to lack of common sense, young biebs....point was that if ur going by numbers, which is what YOU'RE known for doing (not me), then u'd have to say Robertson>LeBron. ur so insecure that u don't read whats right in front of ur face, u simply take shit out of context and put words in peoples mouths like some paranoid closet-homo. never once did i say anything about Robertson being better than LeBron due to having better numbers, thats just what u ASSUMED. all that was implied was that if YOU want to go off of numbers, u'd have to acknowledge Robertson as greater than LeBron, as well as many other greats who have played in the league...so slow ur roll, homochild, and quit getting ahead of urself like the anxious ass lil faggot that u are. see, i never once compared the 60's competition to todays competition and i never said anything relatively close to ur made up quote of mine, "(60s) obviously wasnt as good competition (as today)". that is all in ur homoass paranoid mind. so when u learn to argue whats in front of u, instead of fabricating a bunch of lies (like u do in EVERY SINGLE back-n-forth we've ever had), then u might approach my level...as of now, u aint even close.
and lol@crack saying "on point"...like, who didnt see that one cumming?? smh@the board buttbuddies
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damn CHAM u r a dumb nigga according to nik
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That was a bunch of bullshit "you're an idiot, you're gay" mixed in with zero substance. You said absolutely nothing relative & completely got away from the discussion.
BOTTOM LINE, YOU FUCKING IDIOT, we're both acknowledging that the 60's was a much weaker time to play than now. People dominated the game then like they simply cannot today. So Oscar's stats, like Wilt's aren't real. It's like in Baseball, when random guys from 1892 hold records. Sure, we acknowledge it, but we all know Pujols is simply better. He puts up ridiculous stats, better than anyone in a league where the game is far more developed. THEREFORE, Oscar's numbers are better, but the fact he played in a weak state of the NBA & average impossible numbers takes away from it. A lot away from it.
I don't see the difficulty in what you fail to grasp.
1. YOU SAID, "Oscar's numbers are better, therefore he's better than LeBron."
2. I SAID, "That would be true if Oscar didn't play in the 60's when the competition was weak."
3. YOU named fifteen players to say, "Cham, you're an idiot. Some of the greatest players of all-time played then & there was TONS of competition." (You really going to deny that?)
gayboy, my point was that robertson didn't play against "weak" competition...........robertson's era was competitive, obviously, based on the players i listed alone.
LOL, son. What does that mean? You're defending the 60's to solidify your claim that Oscar played in a competitive league & it's totally fair to make a comparison between the two eras.
4. HACK laughed at you.
5. YOU defended against your original statement & said the 60's "obviously" wasn't as competitive. ADMITTING that CLEARLY the
6. YOU are here right now trying to fight both points. One to me that the 60's WAS competitive enough to make a clear cut comparison between a guy who could be LeBron James's grandfather. Then you're making the point to Hack, "obviously the 60's wasn't as competitive" & you're trying to hide behind your COMPLETE contradiction by saying, "All I'm saying is that stats don't show anything"...yeah, not between today & 40 years ago. But today against today it's where it's at. Kobe just has inferior stats, so you have nothing to say but "it's about rings". WELL, if it's about rings & you're telling me we can compare LeBron & Oscars stats, obviously we can compare Kobe & Russell's rings.
Just wave the white flag when you're ready.
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we're both acknowledging that the 60's was a much weaker time to play than now. People dominated the game then like they simply cannot today. So Oscar's stats, like Wilt's aren't real.
show me where i acknowledged this, biebs? LOL...still makin up random nonsense, as usual.
1. YOU SAID, "Oscar's numbers are better, therefore he's better than LeBron."
again, show me where i said this...all i said was that Oscar's NUMBERS were better, because u were going based off of numbers.
"obviously the 60's wasn't as competitive"
once again...show me where i said this. more lies.
Kobe just has inferior stats, so you have nothing to say but "it's about rings". WELL, if it's about rings & you're telling me we can compare LeBron & Oscars stats, obviously we can compare Kobe & Russell's rings.
like i always say, and u choose to ignore, a measure of greatness is not only rings. if that were the case, robert horry and steve kerr would be all time goats. it's not only numbers. if that were the case, wilt would be by far the greatest. it's a COMBINATION OF RINGS AND NUMBERS. why cant u make a comment on that instead of commenting on a bunch of lies u pretend like i said? really, though...this is my last reply 2 u in this topic, unless u have a strong argument to make against what i'm actually saying.
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NIK hates the lies lol
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NIK hates the lies lol
funny thing is, he aint trollin...he's just really that dumb of a child
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ok new list if we are basing it purely on performance during 00-10 as i was doing it career wise before.
1. Kobe
2. Tracy McGrady
3. Allen Iverson
4. Dwyane Wade
5. Ray Allen
6. Manu Ginóbili
7. Brandon Roy
8. Michael Redd
9. Eddie Jones
10. Vince Carter (best years were at SF)
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You can't talk to morons like that, it's absurd. He's trolling now.
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Arenas is a bitch nigger, Kobe will sock him in the mouth if he joins the Lakers
Kobe Bryant Gunned down in LA. He was just 33 will be the headline in the newspaper.