West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: newera21 on February 08, 2012, 09:58:01 PM
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Its like “New York, New York” was made for the East coast, until we got shot at. We went straight to Time Square to have a good time. After we got shot at we started kicked over buildings in the video to make a statement that we’re upset and you didn’t see us smashing any Philly buildings. I mean the East coast is huge. The East coast is Philadelphia, Boston, Jersey you know but New York I guess is like Los Angeles, the center of the coast. New york is the representation of the East and Los Angeles is the representation of the West, but you didn’t see us going after Philly or Jersey you just seen us in New York handling the problems New Yorkers had with us and we also let New York know we love ya’ll. Me and Snoop, we didn’t have a problem with Bad Boy. Pac was the one who had the problem with Bad Boy but you know how the game goes. To tell you the truth that’s what really started a big problem in Death Row. Snoop showing his distaste for the whole beef problem and how he does have love for Pac and for Biggie. Me, Snoop, and Daz was at the Bad Boy studio when Biggie was working on Total’s album. (1995)
Good read:
http://hiphop365.com/?p=10128
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i love how he answers so honestly about NY 87
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What’s your take on every rapper claiming to be a ‘Blood’?
J-Smoove (Los Angeles CA) via twitter: 5:26 pm ET:
Kurupt: They gonna have to learn the hard way like we did. I cant really speak on anybody else that gets involved with Gang Banging. That’s something they have to go through to see if that’s what they really wanna do. You can’t speak on them and say people ain’t real if you’re not there with them. To each his own. I can’t really judge them for being a part of something that I’m a part of. There’s something that drew me to it and Snoop to it and everyone else to it. So its not something you should judge or tell them not to do. Their quality of being real is not determined by wanting to be a gang member. My advice, if you’re going to do it do it to the fullest and do it right, otherwise, leave it alone. Its something that you gotta do until you die and you will be held to it until you die. You can’t say “I don’t want to do this anymore.” You gotta ride it out. You will forever be known by your enemies that really gang-bang and even to the people who you think are your friends that gang-bang, they will all hold you to it to the day you die….oh and don’t hurt nobody!
how mature.
What’s up with Roscoe? He got anything new out?
Grayson (Philadelphia PA) via twitter 5:41 pm ET:
Kurupt: Roscoe’s over there at Aftermath now so he’s over there with Dr Dre. Working on Detox with Dre and working on his album.
hopefully he's not signed
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Who’s in your Top 5 greatest MC’s list?
Alex Ortiz (Washington Heights) via email 5:16 pm ET:
Kurupt: I can’t really put them in five (laughs). Nas, Jigga, Kanye, Drake…I can’t lie, I like Wayne. I like Busta of course, I love Common. Who else is there, there’s so many. Of course the R, Kool G Rap you know they shit is still poppin, Rage, Meek Mills, Rick Ross, Crooked I. these are people who I’m just loving their rhymes or just certain things they said. Things that make me go “Damn! Did you hear what that nigga just said?” I like Kendrick Lamar, Game, 50, of course 50. Lloyd Banks, J Rock, Nipsey, man uh, My lil brother Roscoe is one of my all time favorites. Of course Tupac, DOC, Prodigy from Mobb Deep, he’s vicious. The list goes on and on and on. Of course Andre 3000, Devon the dude his rhymes is ridiculous, TI and J Electronica. Daz and Canibus, Redman, Lady of Rage.
gotta respect kurupt for bringing up crooked i in this!
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Who’s in your Top 5 greatest MC’s list?
Alex Ortiz (Washington Heights) via email 5:16 pm ET:
Kurupt: I like Kendrick Lamar, Game, 50, of course 50.
of course?!?!
why?!
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Good read.
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Good read.
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very nice interview, wish it was longer 8)
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Good interview. Thanks for postin' this.
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Good interview. Thanks for postin' this.
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i love how he answers so honestly about NY 87
even the Nas/Jay Z part was honest...
u dont see that these days with artists, cuz their afraid they might ruin network relationships etc..
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i love how he answers so honestly about NY 87
even the Nas/Jay Z part was honest...
u dont see that these days with artists, cuz their afraid they might ruin network relationships etc..
word. i miss the days in hip hop where a muthafucka said what they wanted..... only a few do today.
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Great read props on the link
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what kurupt aint saying is that biggie called up to the radio station the day they was making the NY video...and said(i can't believe yall letting these niggaz come to NY and make a diss song about New York).after that interview went all over the ny air waves,thats when they trailer got shot up...words from pacs,and the dogg pounds body guard -Big Frank-
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yeah ppl tend to forget that NY NY was supposed to be a kind of "homage" to east coast rap in the first place... they were doing an east coast kinda track (and mimicking their style) just like Biggie did for "going back to cali" on life after death. it's no coincidence that the beat they used had already been used by B.I.G. for the St Ides Commercial but things were misinterpreted and blown up out of proportion and they got shot at so it finally became a diss and you had live footage where they're performing New York New York throwing the middle finger.
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what kurupt aint saying is that biggie called up to the radio station the day they was making the NY video...and said(i can't believe yall letting these niggaz come to NY and make a diss song about New York).after that interview went all over the ny air waves,thats when they trailer got shot up...words from pacs,and the dogg pounds body guard -Big Frank-
he probably forgot
but Biggie was a bitch for that, those were his boys. it's not like it was a group that Biggie never knew that was coming up there to do that shit...Daz used to sell Biggie weed in 93/94 when he came to the west
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Kurupt was my favorite growing up.
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gotta respect kurupt for bringing up crooked i in this!
After Wayne
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macho luv from 805 to dat 108
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Im not buyin that bullshit. So, NY NY was a kind of eastcoast love track at start?
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Im not buyin that bullshit. So, NY NY was a kind of eastcoast love track at start?
yeah I never bought that either. If it was why was Kurupt talking about how he served "2000 MC's" in NY?
sounds like a diss to me.
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Yeee, looks like Kurupt is coming saying 'Hey that wasn't me or anyone, that was Tupac's fault'.. dude please... Like NY NY wasn't mean to be a diss, but they got shot at because of Biggie, & he's sayin he got nothing but love for biggie ?
Years after, seems like a bitch statement to me.. You did it, assume what you did
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Yeee, looks like Kurupt is coming saying 'Hey that wasn't me or anyone, that was Tupac's fault'.. dude please... Like NY NY wasn't mean to be a diss, but they got shot at because of Biggie, & he's sayin he got nothing but love for biggie ?
Years after, seems like a bitch statement to me.. You did it, assume what you did
well i always understood and thought that NY NY wasn't a diss per se... Kurupt isn't targetting anybody in the song, he's just doing the old egotrip kind of song that's always been done. it was Kurupt's way of responding to the critics who were trashing westcoast music for not being "lyrical" and "hip-hop" enough. by doing an east coast type of song concept wise and lyric wise, Kurupt was like "ok ima play by your rules and i'ma serve you all, showing that i can get down too"... if you look at the 2pac DVD at the House of Blues you have Snoop & Kurupt saying at the end of the song something like "no disrespect to the East coast, shout out to OG Melle Mell & Grand Master Flash"...
as far as biggie idk man, Kurupt's always been friendly with everyone in the industry except for a few cats he had beef with, Death Row & Bad Boy artists were tight in the beginning, they were on stage together, etc. and Kurupt doesn't seem one to hold a grudge forever, after all the shit Daz said publicly on him, after the beef with DMX & Ja Rule, etc.
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'New York, New York' was a homage to the East Coast, not a diss.
The beginning of the song was what happened outside The Tunnel nightclub when Tha Dogg Pound were there in '93, like Kurupt said, smashing on about 200 East Coast rappers. Kurupt went hardcore lyrical on the track, showing West Coast rappers could do it too.
When it came to record the video, Tha Dogg Pound invited any + all the East Coast rappers.
The day of the shoot, Notorious B.I.G. went on Hot97 saying 2PAC + Tha Dogg Pound are making a diss video in Times Square, and someone shot at Snoop's trailer.
When Tha Dogg Pound got back to L.A., they added the parts with kicking over buildings because they had been shot at, when they were showing New York love.
When 2PAC signed to Death Row, this situation among about 10 others were the reason he went at Bad Boy. Biggie was seriously two faced.
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i love how he answers so honestly about NY 87
even the Nas/Jay Z part was honest...
u dont see that these days with artists, cuz their afraid they might ruin network relationships etc..
word. i miss the days in hip hop where a muthafucka said what they wanted..... only a few do today.
50 cent the only one don't bite his tongue. That's why Kurupt like him the best, his wish he could do that. lol
50 dont care abut breaking network cause he create his domain so big that he still survive. Dude gets blackballed, most people dont' mess with 50 today, even fans, but he still does his thing cause the fans in his domain are big enough (tho not the same). Plus his paper long.
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I do believe Ny NY was both a diss and homage, a lil more of a diss be cause of the hook, but that was a sample of Frank Sinatra's on own words, not DPG. But funny choice of word obviously kinda dissed NY.
The diss, however, I don't think was meant to this the WHOLE east or NY namely. It seem that i was about those in NY who crapped on them about lyrics skills etc.. hence Kurupt going to serve them on their level.
So it was sarcastic at the same time hence the "Yo B", Yo god" "what is it money" in the intro. Somehow I translate that them saying it's how Eastcoast cats sound on records before they spit and poking fun at same time. lol
The diss and fun are more at the dudes to criticized. It sound along the line of Westside Connection 's "New York Critics" song.
Their song was really about those from in NY who criticize the west, although it was taking as a diss to the whole NY.
Classic song either way. it made history on various levels.
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I do believe Ny NY was both a diss and homage, a lil more of a diss be cause of the hook, but that was a sample of Frank Sinatra's on own words, not DPG. But funny choice of word obviously kinda dissed NY.
The diss, however, I don't think was meant to this the WHOLE east or NY namely. It seem that i was about those in NY who crapped on them about lyrics skills etc.. hence Kurupt going to serve them on their level.
So it was sarcastic at the same time hence the "Yo B", Yo god" "what is it money" in the intro. Somehow I translate that them saying it's how Eastcoast cats sound on records before they spit and poking fun at same time. lol
The diss and fun are more at the dudes to criticized. It sound along the line of Westside Connection 's "New York Critics" song.
Their song was really about those from in NY who criticize the west, although it was taking as a diss to the whole NY.
Classic song either way. it made history on various levels.
Have you heard the version of "L.A., L.A." that has an intro? Now that's funny.