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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Big BpG on February 01, 2003, 03:22:45 PM
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Alright, so two years ago its announced... Rakim is on Aftermath... wow, people are excited... so forth and so forth... then... Eminem's third album is announced, wow, people are excited... then Dre's Detox album is announced... wow, shit gets exciting again...... so last year, people are like... wow... this is gonna be great... then what do we get??? We get Knoc-Turna'l... people are like who the fuck is he.. yes, he is on Elektra Records, but Dre put a lot of work into his album... so last year we dont get Rakim or Dre, we do get Eminem... only because the fans demanded it... so now everyone's like... yea, we are getting Rakim and Dre this year.... and what do we get???
50 Cent
he comes out of nowhere and now everyone will expect Rakim later...and expect Dre later... and well.... I dont expect them this year...
-Bluey
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Alright, so two years ago its announced... Rakim is on Aftermath... wow, people are excited... so forth and so forth... then... Eminem's third album is announced, wow, people are excited... then Dre's Detox album is announced... wow, shit gets exciting again...... so last year, people are like... wow... this is gonna be great... then what do we get??? We get Knoc-Turna'l... people are like who the fuck is he.. yes, he is on Elektra Records, but Dre put a lot of work into his album... so last year we dont get Rakim or Dre, we do get Eminem... only because the fans demanded it... so now everyone's like... yea, we are getting Rakim and Dre this year.... and what do we get???
50 Cent
he comes out of nowhere and now everyone will expect Rakim later...and expect Dre later... and well.... I dont expect them this year...
-Bluey
there coming dont worry they drop
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Rakim will come this year for sure.
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Eminem's album came out because fans demanded
it like you said but also Em done the majority of
the producing on the album. Wit 50 Cent i think
the buzz round him at the time when he joined
Aftermath/Shady made them think put his album
out first. Wit Rakim i do think is a bit of joke the
length of time they have had to drop an album and
they still haven't droped it and we don't know a
thing about the album, who will be on it? or what the
tracklisting looks like.
Dre's album i think Dre is scared that he might not
live up to the standards of his last two albums (both
the greatest albums to come out the west) so he is
taking forever trying to make it perfect.
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so u would like Detox n Oh My God to be done as quick as Get Rich Or Die Tryin'?
i doubt it.. we all expect nuthin but superclassics so Dre gots to put work on these albums.. and i appreciate this work, i guess we all do cuz u know how anybody would be trippin if Dre's or Rakim's albums were released and just be dope but nothin special
and Dre didn't produce that much for Knoc he just got him mad attention by puttin him on Bad Intension and 2001..
but personally i wouldn't even mind seing Dre put work on Knoc's shit
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No... it's just that... two years ago... yes two years ago this was announced and we get two albums from two people we never heard about... 50 cent and Knoc-Turna'l....what aftermath album came out last year besides Eminems?
Exactly... what r they doing then is basically what I'm saying...
they're working with no name artists like 50 cent
-Big BpG
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No... it's just that... two years ago... yes two years ago this was announced and we get two albums from two people we never heard about... 50 cent and Knoc-Turna'l....what aftermath album came out last year besides Eminems?
Exactly... what r they doing then is basically what I'm saying...
they're working with no name artists like 50 cent
-Big BpG
50 cent is far from a noname...His street buzz was similar to what DMX was back in '98 before he released his album...50 was well known in the underground before Em even heard of him...I remember like 2 or 3 years ago hearing your Life's on the Line and How to Rob...Dre and Aftermath were smart to sign him, cause 50 is going to sell mad records, alot more than Knoc or even Rakim will sell...and basically that's what it's all about...
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I dont care if 50's been around for 50 Centuries... all I'm saying is... look... why do they say... their will be a new Dre, then say their will be a new Rakim and then drop us with some dude named 50 Cent... a huge percent of us didn't even know who this dude was last year... now, peeps are on his nuts cause Dre is associated with him... when all I really want is a new Dre or Rakim... something tight... it's like Snoop talking about 213 and then dropping the Doggystyle All Stars.... wtf!!!!!!!!!!
-Bluey
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well i think as dude said em's album was released because he did most of the production, and 50's was released quicker because em did some prod. and the production dre did was prolly old beats so he really didn't have to put all that much work into it as u might think, but dre really should not have done xzibits album, i think its takin so long because he is really doubting himself because he thinks he won't live up to expectations, so just let the buzz die down a bit and we may get it sooner
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Alright, so two years ago its announced... Rakim is on Aftermath... wow, people are excited... so forth and so forth... then... Eminem's third album is announced, wow, people are excited... then Dre's Detox album is announced... wow, shit gets exciting again...... so last year, people are like... wow... this is gonna be great... then what do we get??? We get Knoc-Turna'l... people are like who the fuck is he.. yes, he is on Elektra Records, but Dre put a lot of work into his album... so last year we dont get Rakim or Dre, we do get Eminem... only because the fans demanded it... so now everyone's like... yea, we are getting Rakim and Dre this year.... and what do we get???
50 Cent
he comes out of nowhere and now everyone will expect Rakim later...and expect Dre later... and well.... I dont expect them this year...
-Bluey
Yea.. I feel you Big BPG.. but Ive tried to look at it from a different perspective.. Dre and Em and droppin music in a totally different market. The music industry is sooo different from when The Original Chronic dropped. Its hard as fuck to break new acts.. (I.E. Knoc.. Shade Sheist.. etc..) and its equally as hard to push old acts (like Rakim) when presented with "has been" beats. This is why Dre turned down all of the beats that DJ Premier presented. Dre and Em are trying to change the game.. PERIOD!!!! not just sell records. And for that.. I admire Dre, EM and Aftermath. They dont want to drop anything that could be remotely considered "recycled."
But on the flip side.. I feel you.. Dre does over promise shit.. (over hype) and has a history of pulling out at the last minute (I.E. King T.) But the industry is all about hype dogg. You gotta keep artists name in the the fans mouth.. so him working with Rakim gives the fan perception of CLASSIC material so other shit will sell in the mean time. If the material doesnt come out quite as classic as expected.. then he moves on. To be honest.. Im more pissed at Dre not fully supporting WC artist like Knoc and Hittman.. artists who've successfully generate a buzz all by they damn self. Sure.. Im looking forward to Rakim.. but I could really give a fuck when compared to how much I was looking forward to Hittman.. Knoc.. or even King T.
Axle
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yeah i feel u, i was really anticipating a hittman album after 2001, i mean he was on 2001 as much as snoop was on the chronic, i figured he was the next artist dre was gonna get out there. i felt dre shoulda put out a single off 2001 with hit on it, like hoes a housewife, light speed or let's get high. but instead he chose an eminem track and 2 with snoop. i mean he shoulda been introducing new cats to the game instead of having snoop on there, then he woulda had to get hit's album out cuz his buzz woulda been 2 much. thats why 2001 isn't put up there with the chronic, cuz it was more about sales than the original
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LoL...Knock-Turnal dropped a 6 track EP on Elektra dawg...With Rakim and Dre, everyone is expecting a masterpeice, and nothing less...So it's only common sense that it will take more time to put together than 50 Cent, who is just a flavor of the mont type of cat...PeACe
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Man 50's album has got to be realsed now because of all the hype surrownding him at the moment. Aftermath know that if they release Rakim and Cubes and Dre's at anytime they are going to sell because they are legends but if they wait like 6 months to drop 50's album then people will of got bored of him. They release it now then everybody picks it up to see what the hype is about and shit. They aint dumb!
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last year at this time we were saying rakim will surely drop this year....and now look...dre talks almost as much shit as daz does....oh remember we were supposed to have hittman too a couple years ago...rakim will never drop..mark my word....the only albums dre will release are albums he thinks he can get really rich off
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No... it's just that... two years ago... yes two years ago this was announced and we get two albums from two people we never heard about... 50 cent and Knoc-Turna'l....what aftermath album came out last year besides Eminems?
Exactly... what r they doing then is basically what I'm saying...
they're working with no name artists like 50 cent
-Big BpG
Yeah, Honestly, I'd rather see Dre doing a camp thing like Snoop does instead. Dropping eastsidaz, his own album, the allstars comp, bones soundtrack, etc. etc. Then waiting 4 years to do something.
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Dre is ALready Rich your argument doesnt hold
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No... it's just that... two years ago... yes two years ago this was announced and we get two albums from two people we never heard about... 50 cent and Knoc-Turna'l....what aftermath album came out last year besides Eminems?
Exactly... what r they doing then is basically what I'm saying...
they're working with no name artists like 50 cent
-Big BpG
if you think 50 is a no name then you need to keep your ear to the street alot more cause this fool nigga has been hot since about 98 it's jsut that columbia records fucked him over after he got shot down. this fool is the hottest thing the streets since dmx's 1st record
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Like I said... i dont care how long 50 cents been around, that's not what I want... sure I'm being selfish here, but all we hear is .... new rakim, new dre... blah blah blah... then we get 50 cent... when 98% of the people, including me, never knew him before, and could care less, but now that he is on aftermath, we jock him... so..... like i said... you can TALK THE TALK, BUT WALK IT TOO
-Bluey
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50 cent is being used for 2 reasons 1) he serves as a cover for the aftermath label to wet hungry fan's whistles, while they are in the in between stage or making albums for rakim, cube, dre, etc. Classic albums definately take time to develop, and id rather wait and have a classic than rush and have an under achiever. 2) 50 cent is hot as hot can get. His talents were known of, but not fully respected here on the eastside. No one though he could hold a buzz like the one he is holding now. Dre is just releasing the beast onto the streets and letting him eat, for real. Cant hate on aftermath or 50 cent for making the right moves.
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uh....yall forgot about....uh...CUBE...lol. he in the picture now too. which means more time will be taken away from detox. and maybe Rakim.