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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Shallow Jr on February 28, 2012, 11:39:45 PM
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I will give my undying love and devotion to wherever he plays ;D :laugh: 8)
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It's a bout time I had someone on here I can relate to.
Right now I'm leaning towards KC, but I admit most of that is me being hopeful. I simply can't imagie a better environment and team. Teams like the Jets and Ravens aren't as much better than the Chiefs as people think and the volatile personalities on those teams along with the added pressure of Superbowl or bust will make it harder to win it all.
KC is a small market team in a bad division with a young and ready to pounce group of talent. A great defensive Head Coach. A fantastic home field advantage. Going anything better than 11-5 and 1 win in the playoffs would be a bonus. And Manning would have a serious chip on his shoulder all season, and with a coach that's not reluctant to go for the kill I expect the Chiefs to be a dangerous team next January with Peyton.
Not to mention that it would really help his legacy to do it with a team like KC because no one expects them. I n reality I think it'd be harder to win with the Jets, but the media wouldn't play it like that.
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he can borrow Lynchs grill
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Where will he end up? Heaven!
At least that's what it will feel like after being in hell for 14 years.
I actually feel bad for Luck. Peyton got to start under and established head coach, a proven GM, and had Marshal Faulk and the Colts still sucked that first year. Now we get a 2-14 team get a guy that's never been a GM, and guy that's never head coached, and nothing even close to a Marhall Faulk on the team.
Luck is a great QB, but if I were him I'd pull an Eli Manning and refuse. Colts can trade the #1 for the #2 and the #2 in round 2 to the Rams, and the Rams can trade the #1 to whoever in the top ten wants Luck and get a bag of picks. RG3 would be a better fit on a shit team like Indy for the first few years anyway.
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I agree with Shallow for once, without SF being interested Manning should go to KC. Bowe, breaston, Charles, Moeacki. Plenty of weapons and a good young defense, plus there in a suspect division they could have won last year if they got ANY decent QB play and that was without Charles
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I agree with Shallow for once, without SF being interested Manning should go to KC. Bowe, breaston, Charles, Moeacki. Plenty of weapons and a good young defense, plus there in a suspect division they could have won last year if they got ANY decent QB play and that was without Charles
I'm sure we've agreed on something before now.
If Houston will take him that might even be better than KC. Until the trade yesterday I would have said Houston could have traded Schaub to Washington for something decent, but either way, it looks like they'll be grooming Yates to start one day, but not for another few years. The shelf life of Schaub in Houston won't be any longer than Peyton's career shelf life. So it'd be a no brainer to take Peyton over Schaub right now, if Peyton wants in.
Miami looks like the frontrunner to me though. The main issue is if they can win that division. Houston and KC are an easier road to the playoffs, but I thik that an AFC East win makes Miami the favourite for the Superbowl. Especially if NE doesn't even get a Wildcard. The momentum of keeping Bellicheck and Brady from getting to the playoffs would travel into January. I do not think Miami's D is good enough to do anything to New England's offense in a cold weather game. And Miami's offense in January in New England or Pit would be tough.
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He's meeting with the Cards this week. Him & Larry with Beanie on those play actions is deadly.
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i hope he goes to Ariz or Houston
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Looks like the Titans just entered the draw
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d827875f8/article/titans-owner-adams-has-contacted-peyton-mannings-agent?module=HP11_headline_stack
Apparently he declined visits to KC and Seattle.
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Looks like the Titans just entered the draw
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d827875f8/article/titans-owner-adams-has-contacted-peyton-mannings-agent?module=HP11_headline_stack
Apparently he declined visits to KC and Seattle.
psh dude could of turned team around. Seahawks were always close and were just missing one piece.
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id love to see him go to houston or arizona
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I think he stays in a dome. Guys been padding his stats his whole career playing in one, he's not about to go play outside in the cold which is why he'd never play for the jets or several other teams.
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I think he stays in a dome. Guys been padding his stats his whole career playing in one, he's not about to go play outside in the cold which is why he'd never play for the jets or several other teams.
So why even visit Denver?
And padded stats my ass. Sat and watched Jim Kelly go to town on teams like Miami and LA in the playoffs because he had homefield and warm climate teams coming up to Buffalo got killed. It had nothing to do with Kellly outplaying Marino or Hostetler, and everything to do with teams that can't play in the elements being forced to.
Some of Peyton's best QB ratings in his career were at Philly, KC, and Chicago in the second half of the season. One of his 4 perfect rating games was the one in Philly. And he had a 138.7 @KC in January.
Funny how Peyton is the playoff bust QB who can't produce numbers in the post-season with his 88.4 January passer rating, and Tom Brady is the great master of January with his 87.8 playoff QB rating. Yes, Manning is a better playoff QB than Brady, but you can only win so many games with a 2-14 team. Te difference is Brady can afford to put up a 60 passer rating in a game adn still win while Manning can put up 91 and lose.
In fact in Manning's last 5 playoff losses his QB ratings have been 108.7, 88.5, 90.4, 97.7, and 90.9, with a total of 7 TDs to 3 INTs ,and over 3000 a game
Brady's last 5 wins 13 to 9 TD to INT ratio and 3 games wth ratings below 70
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So how do you explain Peyton throwing double the ints then Tds in his superbowl run? If his teams are as bad as you say how does a team win the superbowl with a poor playoffs by their QB?
If Tom Brady put up the numbers manning did in that sb run you'd claim it as proof Brady is a system qb who's team won the championship.
Go ahead, deny it so I can have a good laugh.
Let me Re post those stats for you.
78.9 comp%/1 TD/3 int/pass per attempt 7.05/passer rating 71.9/Colts win vs KC 23-8
50.0 comp%/0 TD/2 int/pass per attempt 5.67/passer rating 39.6/Colts win @ Bal 15-6
57.4 comp%/1 TD/1 int/pass per attempt 7.43/passer rating 79.1/1 rush TD/Colts win vs NE 38-34
65.8 comp%/1 TD/1 int/pass per attempt 6.50/passer rating 81.8/Colts win vs Chi 29-17
Not once did Peyton have over an 85 rating. He posted a 39.6 and they still won the game. If Tom Brady did that you'd never shut up about it.So how do you explain these numbers shallow? Because these throw everything you say right in your face.
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Peyton in Denver would be scary monstrous if that defense played the same way it did for Tebow.
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So how do you explain Peyton throwing double the ints then Tds in his superbowl run? If his teams are as bad as you say how does a team win the superbowl with a poor playoffs by their QB?
If Tom Brady put up the numbers manning did in that sb run you'd claim it as proof Brady is a system qb who's team won the championship.
Go ahead, deny it so I can have a good laugh.
Let me Re post those stats for you.
78.9 comp%/1 TD/3 int/pass per attempt 7.05/passer rating 71.9/Colts win vs KC 23-8
50.0 comp%/0 TD/2 int/pass per attempt 5.67/passer rating 39.6/Colts win @ Bal 15-6
57.4 comp%/1 TD/1 int/pass per attempt 7.43/passer rating 79.1/1 rush TD/Colts win vs NE 38-34
65.8 comp%/1 TD/1 int/pass per attempt 6.50/passer rating 81.8/Colts win vs Chi 29-17
Not once did Peyton have over an 85 rating. He posted a 39.6 and they still won the game. If Tom Brady did that you'd never shut up about it.So how do you explain these numbers shallow? Because these throw everything you say right in your face.
I explain it because of their opponents.
The 06 Colts were nothing special, and Peyton in that playoffs, except for the second hakf of the AFC Championship was the second best player on that team next to Bob Sanders. The Colts won the Superbowl because of the strength of the crap on the other end. The Cheifs were a mediocre team, and the Ravens had no offense. The Pats just blew the second half, and the Bears weren't going to beat any team on that night.
Had the Chargers simply not intercepted Brady's 4th down joke of a throw they would have advanced and they would have killed the Colts and the Bears, and Marty would have had his ring, and Rivers would have gotten one before Eli, because no way do those Colts go into SD and even come close.
And I never once mention the 06 playoff run when I talk about how great Manning is, and I never talk about having a ring as justification for anything. Like I said the best game I ever saw any QB play in January was the 05 loss to the Steelers. Unbelievable how he kept his compsure and lead that team back under the constant physical pressure, no run game, and WRs that couldn't get open. The Colts lost and they deserved to because they were outplayed, but not out QBed, and had Peyton been on the Steelers and Roth on the Colts that score would have been something like the Saints Colts game from this passed season.
Brady and the Colts easily could have won that KC game (though I doubt they'd be there in the first place), but that's it. Baltimore in Baltimore is tough and Peyton took what as given, and the second half of the NE game was magical, but also very sloppy on NE's part on offense. Any QB in the league could have eaten the Bears that night.
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It's a bout time I had someone on here I can relate to.
Right now I'm leaning towards KC, but I admit most of that is me being hopeful. I simply can't imagie a better environment and team. Teams like the Jets and Ravens aren't as much better than the Chiefs as people think and the volatile personalities on those teams along with the added pressure of Superbowl or bust will make it harder to win it all.
KC is a small market team in a bad division with a young and ready to pounce group of talent. A great defensive Head Coach. A fantastic home field advantage. Going anything better than 11-5 and 1 win in the playoffs would be a bonus. And Manning would have a serious chip on his shoulder all season, and with a coach that's not reluctant to go for the kill I expect the Chiefs to be a dangerous team next January with Peyton.
Not to mention that it would really help his legacy to do it with a team like KC because no one expects them. I n reality I think it'd be harder to win with the Jets, but the media wouldn't play it like that.
Great post 8) Still checking the updates to see if he's headed out to KC next. I think right now he's makin a visit to the Dolphins.
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Looks like the Titans just entered the draw
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d827875f8/article/titans-owner-adams-has-contacted-peyton-mannings-agent?module=HP11_headline_stack
Apparently he declined visits to KC and Seattle.
psh dude could of turned team around. Seahawks were always close and were just missing one piece.
seattle has zero weapons besides lynch that would be an awful fit for peyton
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Looks like the Titans just entered the draw
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d827875f8/article/titans-owner-adams-has-contacted-peyton-mannings-agent?module=HP11_headline_stack
Apparently he declined visits to KC and Seattle.
psh dude could of turned team around. Seahawks were always close and were just missing one piece.
seattle has zero weapons besides lynch that would be an awful fit for peyton
Sydney Rice & Mike Williams size and athleticism isn't a perfect fit for peyton you crazy? not to mention a pro bowl full back. a great defense and 2 strong tight ends in Zach Miller & John Carlson.
we repeated are same record from the year before with fucking Tavarias jackson & Charlie Whitehurst at QB. a great QB would of made this team a contender. doesn't matter we could still get Matt Flynn and a great draft pick.
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Looks like the Titans just entered the draw
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d827875f8/article/titans-owner-adams-has-contacted-peyton-mannings-agent?module=HP11_headline_stack
Apparently he declined visits to KC and Seattle.
psh dude could of turned team around. Seahawks were always close and were just missing one piece.
seattle has zero weapons besides lynch that would be an awful fit for peyton
Sydney Rice & Mike Williams size and athleticism isn't a perfect fit for peyton you crazy? not to mention a pro bowl full back. a great defense and 2 strong tight ends in Zach Miller & John Carlson.
we repeated are same record from the year before with fucking Tavarias jackson & Charlie Whitehurst at QB. a great QB would of made this team a contender. doesn't matter we could still get Matt Flynn and a great draft pick.
LOL AT MIKE WILLIAMS!!! Hes had one decent year, not to mention hes slow. He can be solid AT BEST. I did forget about Sidney Rice, He is a Talent for sure..I wouldnt say a GREAT Defense, they have a solid defense that is REALLY good at home. And there Tight ends are pretty solid too. The real gem is Lynch keep pounding the rock, And i actually didnt think Tavaris was that bad last year
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no he wasn't as bad as i thought he would be but he shouldnt be starting on any NFL team. Mike Williams is a solid big target regardless. But i believe he needs a leader like matt was before. Jackson can't lead a team or keep the others in check. obviously I'm a homer but if Rice stays healthy with Williams on the side we will be solid. are O line is are weakest point. Okung is a beast if healthy but that's a big if.
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Marshal just got traded from Miami to Chicago for two measly third round picks. Either Peyton hates the guy and that meanms coming to Miami, or Peyton may stay clear now. I'd rather not have Peyton on Miami if there's no deep threat.
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@glennonsports
ESPN's Bill Polian calls Peyton competition dead heat between #Titans and Denver.
Reports also saying Archie Manning meeting with Titans tonight also. The claim of the reports is that Archie, Mrs. Manning & Peyton's wife (a native of Tennessee) are all saying Titans.
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Peyton has said he is still open to talk with other teams...Funny how the Niners and Alex smith havent agreed on a contract yet...hmmmm.....makes u wonder