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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Cavvy on March 17, 2012, 10:44:26 AM
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I dont want to trawl through the albums released after his death so can someone give me the name of some of his strongest songs released on those projects?
btw which of the albums released after his death were f...king horrible?
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i dunno,
none of the posthumous album were awful or really bad imo. all of em were okay, musicaly, i guess -
but Pac-purists tend to hate most of em, cuz teh songs were not in og-format or whatever
the "Tupac Resurrection" OST had some nice Eminem-production, and so did "Loyal To the Game",, like the Nate Dogg-song
"R U Still Down" is probly the best album tho
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everything after Makaveli was horrible in my opinion. do yourself a favor. buy all the albums he made when he was actually alive then use the posthumous albums as a reference guide to find the bootleg unreleased original versions of those songs and ur set for life.
u can start by downloading my fav unreleased pac song here. Untouchable original version. theres a download link on the utube page so get that
https://www.youtube.com/v/FWnG0ZGIXts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWnG0ZGIXts)
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U gotta check albums like R U Still Down, Still I Rise, Until The End Of Time, Better Dayz. Loyal To The Game & Pac's Life are really fucked up, except for a few tracks
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Nu Mixx Klazzics seems to get a lot of hate.
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on the above the rim soundtrack there was a track called Loyal to the game which was dope
but who the fuck was the Riddler?
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Nu Mixx Klazzics seems to get a lot of hate.
dunno why, its much better than loyal to the game or pacs life
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U gotta check albums like R U Still Down, Still I Rise
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dunno why, its much better than loyal to the game or pacs life
Not really. I think Loyal To The Game is much better.
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this is for tha hustlas - ant banks big thangs is one of my fave posthumous tracks but i dont know if that counts cuz it wasnt a solo.
pac + outlawz still i rise was pretty dope for the most part.
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i would stay well away from Loyal To The Game & Pac's Life.....what were they thinking??????
Loyal To The Game has nothing worth listining to on it and eminem wants shooting for that pile of shit, only cop Pac's Life for "Soon As I Get Home"
Better Dayz had its moments but was still filled with alot of garbage remixed beats, and the same goes for until the end of time.
Still I Rise was prob the last post pac release that was pretty solid all the way through (give or take a track or two)
R U Still Down was a good release
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after all these years im not sure why but i still dont really fuck with are you still down.
its got some solid tracks on that bitch but some of his older material dont appeal to me.
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:loco:
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after all these years im not sure why but i still dont really fuck with are you still down.
its got some solid tracks on that bitch but some of his older material dont appeal to me.
RUSD sucked because it had HORRIBLE music on it. WE got Kidza production? get the fuck outta here. Thx EDI for ruining what could have been a classic song.
Im Gettin Money was horrible JJ, thanks for a shitty remix which set a tone for sub par remixes to be allowed on future pac albums.
The removing of Gunfire from open fire, then intro being removed for the whole album, sooo many mistakes they made.
RUSD paved the way and lowered the bar for future albums to suck and not go with OGs which bumped, but some modern beat. Kind of like some net dj today taking an acapella of Tupac, and removing kurupt and the outlawz to put Jossy and Sean Kingston on a track with some corny 2012 beat just made overnight.
A retail posthumous track, minus FWTWN, Street Fame Briss Remix, Do FOr Love RUSD album version, Happy Home, Good life, Soon as i get home, ballad of a dead souhja, generally sucks.
I once made a detailed thread on this really toddler run website called NOT- MAK , and was banned when the mod chuck dirty read my thread.
I basically outlined that we cannot say i like the remix better than the OG, because we have never gotten to hear the OG of almost every song in it's proper form. with retail polishing, mastering, and professional companies prepping it for retail cd pressing. So if someone says, i like enemies wiht me on RUSD, better than the OG, that statement is impossible to be true.
All we hear is the final remix, with FULL icing on the cake as far as polishing and sounding supersonically correct, while the actual original song, capable of bumping if EQ'd handled right goes to be never heard. Sure we may get lucky with a dat rip or a rip from a 2' reel, or a reference cd, but it still doesn't sound as good as a retail song and never can.
So pac fans are spoonfed CDQ amazing quality net remixes on retial cds. In my opinion, other than the few OGs reworked slightly, all of the posthumous songs are no better then some net djs random thrown up BS track. Street Fame and Do for Love , and Hellrazor, are the only remixes which actually deserve to be on the albums.
FUCK YOU AMARU entertainment for shelving AMAZING tupac songs since 1997. i will never get to hear enemies with me and getting money in cdq because your EVIL TACTICS....
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after all these years im not sure why but i still dont really fuck with are you still down.
its got some solid tracks on that bitch but some of his older material dont appeal to me.
RUSD sucked because it had HORRIBLE music on it. WE got Kidza production? get the fuck outta here. Thx EDI for ruining what could have been a classic song.
Im Gettin Money was horrible JJ, thanks for a shitty remix which set a tone for sub par remixes to be allowed on future pac albums.
The removing of Gunfire from open fire, then intro being removed for the whole album, sooo many mistakes they made.
RUSD paved the way and lowered the bar for future albums to suck and not go with OGs which bumped, but some modern beat. Kind of like some net dj today taking an acapella of Tupac, and removing kurupt and the outlawz to put Jossy and Sean Kingston on a track with some corny 2012 beat just made overnight.
A retail posthumous track, minus FWTWN, Street Fame Briss Remix, Do FOr Love RUSD album version, Happy Home, Good life, Soon as i get home, ballad of a dead souhja, generally sucks.
I once made a detailed thread on this really toddler run website called NOT- MAK , and was banned when the mod chuck dirty read my thread.
I basically outlined that we cannot say i like the remix better than the OG, because we have never gotten to hear the OG of almost every song in it's proper form. with retail polishing, mastering, and professional companies prepping it for retail cd pressing. So if someone says, i like enemies wiht me on RUSD, better than the OG, that statement is impossible to be true.
All we hear is the final remix, with FULL icing on the cake as far as polishing and sounding supersonically correct, while the actual original song, capable of bumping if EQ'd handled right goes to be never heard. Sure we may get lucky with a dat rip or a rip from a 2' reel, or a reference cd, but it still doesn't sound as good as a retail song and never can.
So pac fans are spoonfed CDQ amazing quality net remixes on retial cds. In my opinion, other than the few OGs reworked slightly, all of the posthumous songs are no better then some net djs random thrown up BS track. Street Fame and Do for Love , and Hellrazor, are the only remixes which actually deserve to be on the albums.
FUCK YOU AMARU entertainment for shelving AMAZING tupac songs since 1997. i will never get to hear enemies with me and getting money in cdq because your EVIL TACTICS....
LOL WTF DAMN homie, it's just music, get over it.
(http://img4.memecenter.com/uploaded/12Pacca_fa23ff342a8e7ca59a07aca22092bc25.jpg)
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r u still down was pretty damn good
they just remixed a few tracks they shouldnt have
they didnt butcher the entire thing like loyal to the game
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Street Fame and Do for Love , and Hellrazor
were terrible remixes
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Now let's not forget the millons upon millions of posthumous shitty remixes that kids with audio software did after he died.
(http://t.qkme.me/36f867.jpg)
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Best posthumous songs:
(all the below songs are at least 90% un-molested by the estate or record companies that have released 2pac material since his death.)
Never had friend like me - Gridlocked soundtrack
Lost souls - Gang related soundtrack
Made Niggaz - Gang related soundtrack
Through my rearview - gang related soundtrack
hard on a nigga - gang related soundtrack
Troublesome - greatest hits
Initiated - retaliation revenge and get back ( album feature on Daz Dillinger album)
Don't Stop - Dogg pound 2002 (album feature on Dogg pound album)
Who do you believe in - chronic 2000
late night - chronic 2000
Niggas done changed - seasoned veteran (album feature on Richie Rich album)
Thug Luv - art of war (album feature on Bone Thugs and Harmony)
Niggaz Nature - Too Gangsta for radio
Friendz - Too Gangsta for radio ( this JUST makes this list as the instrumental is notably different from the original, yet still retains the original sample-- albeit interpolated differently--- and original vocal elements and hook etc.)
Tear drops and closed caskets - Still i rise (2pac posthumous album)
As the world turns - Still i rise (2pac posthumous album)
High Speed*** - Still i rise (posthumous 2pac album) [note- probably the best posthumous track by 2pac. if you can only pick one, pick this one)
Fuckin wit the wrong nigga - until the end of time (posthumous 2pac album)
Better Dayz - better dayz (posthumous 2pac album)
They dont give a fuck about us - (posthumous 2pac album)
Soon as i get home - pacs life (posthumous 2pac album)
everything else is heavily altered or ought-right manufactured.
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after all these years im not sure why but i still dont really fuck with are you still down.
its got some solid tracks on that bitch but some of his older material dont appeal to me.
RUSD sucked because it had HORRIBLE music on it. WE got Kidza production? get the fuck outta here. Thx EDI for ruining what could have been a classic song.
Im Gettin Money was horrible JJ, thanks for a shitty remix which set a tone for sub par remixes to be allowed on future pac albums.
The removing of Gunfire from open fire, then intro being removed for the whole album, sooo many mistakes they made.
RUSD paved the way and lowered the bar for future albums to suck and not go with OGs which bumped, but some modern beat. Kind of like some net dj today taking an acapella of Tupac, and removing kurupt and the outlawz to put Jossy and Sean Kingston on a track with some corny 2012 beat just made overnight.
A retail posthumous track, minus FWTWN, Street Fame Briss Remix, Do FOr Love RUSD album version, Happy Home, Good life, Soon as i get home, ballad of a dead souhja, generally sucks.
I once made a detailed thread on this really toddler run website called NOT- MAK , and was banned when the mod chuck dirty read my thread.
I basically outlined that we cannot say i like the remix better than the OG, because we have never gotten to hear the OG of almost every song in it's proper form. with retail polishing, mastering, and professional companies prepping it for retail cd pressing. So if someone says, i like enemies wiht me on RUSD, better than the OG, that statement is impossible to be true.
All we hear is the final remix, with FULL icing on the cake as far as polishing and sounding supersonically correct, while the actual original song, capable of bumping if EQ'd handled right goes to be never heard. Sure we may get lucky with a dat rip or a rip from a 2' reel, or a reference cd, but it still doesn't sound as good as a retail song and never can.
So pac fans are spoonfed CDQ amazing quality net remixes on retial cds. In my opinion, other than the few OGs reworked slightly, all of the posthumous songs are no better then some net djs random thrown up BS track. Street Fame and Do for Love , and Hellrazor, are the only remixes which actually deserve to be on the albums.
FUCK YOU AMARU entertainment for shelving AMAZING tupac songs since 1997. i will never get to hear enemies with me and getting money in cdq because your EVIL TACTICS....
holy shit, you need a shrink badly
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after all these years im not sure why but i still dont really fuck with are you still down.
its got some solid tracks on that bitch but some of his older material dont appeal to me.
RUSD sucked because it had HORRIBLE music on it. WE got Kidza production? get the fuck outta here. Thx EDI for ruining what could have been a classic song.
Im Gettin Money was horrible JJ, thanks for a shitty remix which set a tone for sub par remixes to be allowed on future pac albums.
The removing of Gunfire from open fire, then intro being removed for the whole album, sooo many mistakes they made.
RUSD paved the way and lowered the bar for future albums to suck and not go with OGs which bumped, but some modern beat. Kind of like some net dj today taking an acapella of Tupac, and removing kurupt and the outlawz to put Jossy and Sean Kingston on a track with some corny 2012 beat just made overnight.
A retail posthumous track, minus FWTWN, Street Fame Briss Remix, Do FOr Love RUSD album version, Happy Home, Good life, Soon as i get home, ballad of a dead souhja, generally sucks.
I once made a detailed thread on this really toddler run website called NOT- MAK , and was banned when the mod chuck dirty read my thread.
I basically outlined that we cannot say i like the remix better than the OG, because we have never gotten to hear the OG of almost every song in it's proper form. with retail polishing, mastering, and professional companies prepping it for retail cd pressing. So if someone says, i like enemies wiht me on RUSD, better than the OG, that statement is impossible to be true.
All we hear is the final remix, with FULL icing on the cake as far as polishing and sounding supersonically correct, while the actual original song, capable of bumping if EQ'd handled right goes to be never heard. Sure we may get lucky with a dat rip or a rip from a 2' reel, or a reference cd, but it still doesn't sound as good as a retail song and never can.
So pac fans are spoonfed CDQ amazing quality net remixes on retial cds. In my opinion, other than the few OGs reworked slightly, all of the posthumous songs are no better then some net djs random thrown up BS track. Street Fame and Do for Love , and Hellrazor, are the only remixes which actually deserve to be on the albums.
FUCK YOU AMARU entertainment for shelving AMAZING tupac songs since 1997. i will never get to hear enemies with me and getting money in cdq because your EVIL TACTICS....
i feel where u coming from. nothing u can do about it tho. thats y like i said in my first post, buy all the albums he made when he was alive then use the albums that came out after he died as a reference guide to track down the unreleased versions of the same songs. its fucked up that it even has to be that way if any pac fan wants to hear the real shit because it divides the pac fan base in a way. u dont see them doing shit like that to other dead artists' music. just the fucked up ways of the world. dl my untouchable og mix too, i added kadafis verse back on it since the leak didnt have it. sounds official. link in my first post
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my top 10 posthumous tracks:
1-street fame
2-fuck all yall
3-military minds
4-do 4 love
5-baby dont cry
6-changes (obviously the most known of all posthumous remixes)
7-I wonder if heaven got a ghetto
8-loyal to the game (DJ Quik version)
9-letter to the president
10-ghost
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I've always really liked the versions of Good Life and Fuckin' Wit The Wrong Nigga From the UTEOT album. They are basically the OG versions just with the vocals and beat polished up a bit. A lot of great tracks from RUSD? as well, even if they may not be faithful to the OG versions.
As others have said, avoid Pac's Life and Loyal at all costs, save for one or two songs.
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The stans need a shrink if they really believe there aren't any great tracks on UTEOT and Better Days.
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after all these years im not sure why but i still dont really fuck with are you still down.
its got some solid tracks on that bitch but some of his older material dont appeal to me.
RUSD sucked because it had HORRIBLE music on it. WE got Kidza production? get the fuck outta here. Thx EDI for ruining what could have been a classic song.
Im Gettin Money was horrible JJ, thanks for a shitty remix which set a tone for sub par remixes to be allowed on future pac albums.
The removing of Gunfire from open fire, then intro being removed for the whole album, sooo many mistakes they made.
RUSD paved the way and lowered the bar for future albums to suck and not go with OGs which bumped, but some modern beat. Kind of like some net dj today taking an acapella of Tupac, and removing kurupt and the outlawz to put Jossy and Sean Kingston on a track with some corny 2012 beat just made overnight.
A retail posthumous track, minus FWTWN, Street Fame Briss Remix, Do FOr Love RUSD album version, Happy Home, Good life, Soon as i get home, ballad of a dead souhja, generally sucks.
I once made a detailed thread on this really toddler run website called NOT- MAK , and was banned when the mod chuck dirty read my thread.
I basically outlined that we cannot say i like the remix better than the OG, because we have never gotten to hear the OG of almost every song in it's proper form. with retail polishing, mastering, and professional companies prepping it for retail cd pressing. So if someone says, i like enemies wiht me on RUSD, better than the OG, that statement is impossible to be true.
All we hear is the final remix, with FULL icing on the cake as far as polishing and sounding supersonically correct, while the actual original song, capable of bumping if EQ'd handled right goes to be never heard. Sure we may get lucky with a dat rip or a rip from a 2' reel, or a reference cd, but it still doesn't sound as good as a retail song and never can.
So pac fans are spoonfed CDQ amazing quality net remixes on retial cds. In my opinion, other than the few OGs reworked slightly, all of the posthumous songs are no better then some net djs random thrown up BS track. Street Fame and Do for Love , and Hellrazor, are the only remixes which actually deserve to be on the albums.
FUCK YOU AMARU entertainment for shelving AMAZING tupac songs since 1997. i will never get to hear enemies with me and getting money in cdq because your EVIL TACTICS....
LOL
I know it's early but I nominate this shit for wigger comment of the year. I swear when wiggers find 2pac they act like they found jesus or some shit.
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can you feel the passion?
no seriously son made some good points...it is real fucked up how his catalog has been handled.
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some more of my fave posthumous tracks
- words to my unborn
- street fame
- runnin on e
- black jesus
- everything they owe (the one with the salsa beat)
- pacs life (dope prince sample)
- all out
- lil homies
- teardropz/closed caskets
- late nite
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someone fucked up teardrops and closet caskets by taking out part of nate doggs chorus
its "will i, forever be, alone, in this world" and they remove "in this world'
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Those albums are a must:
- R U Still Down
- Still I Rise
Those 2 are little worse, but half of the content is excellent:
- Until The End Of Time
- Better Dayz
Now u need separate approach to:
- Loyal To The Game - skip everything besides bonus 4 tracks done by other producers than slim fuckin shady
- Pac's Life - few tracks are really good, highlight Soon As I Get Home - only og there.
Many tracks leaked throughout few last years, so the best choice is to get that first of all.
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Still I Rise was my favourite
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Obviously the tracks released in OG form (or really close to it) are generally what people like, but my favorite posthumous remixed songs (which I do like but am not necessarily saying that they are better than the OGs) are:
Do for Love
Baby Don't Cry
Black Jesuz
Hell 4 a Hustler
Let Em Have It
All Out
Lastonesleft
When I Get Free
When We Ride on Our Enemies
Changed Man
Street Fame
Thugz Mansion
Never Call U Bitch Again
U Can Call
Don't You Trust Me
Hennessey (Red Spyda Remix)
Dumpin'
Playa Cardz Right (Female)
Resist the Temptation
Keep Goin' (Remix) - from Nu-Mixx 2 (remix of Don't Stop)
Part 2 - with Jon B (remix of Happy Home)
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i dunno,
none of the posthumous album were awful or really bad imo. all of em were okay, musicaly, i guess -
but Pac-purists tend to hate most of em, cuz teh songs were not in og-format or whatever
the "Tupac Resurrection" OST had some nice Eminem-production, and so did "Loyal To the Game",, like the Nate Dogg-song
"R U Still Down" is probly the best album tho
i think the Still I Rise is the best IMO!
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i dunno,
none of the posthumous album were awful or really bad imo. all of em were okay, musicaly, i guess -
but Pac-purists tend to hate most of em, cuz teh songs were not in og-format or whatever
the "Tupac Resurrection" OST had some nice Eminem-production, and so did "Loyal To the Game",, like the Nate Dogg-song
"R U Still Down" is probly the best album tho
i think the Still I Rise is the best IMO!
still i rise only had one flaw, Fatal was taken off
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i dunno,
none of the posthumous album were awful or really bad imo. all of em were okay, musicaly, i guess -
but Pac-purists tend to hate most of em, cuz teh songs were not in og-format or whatever
the "Tupac Resurrection" OST had some nice Eminem-production, and so did "Loyal To the Game",, like the Nate Dogg-song
"R U Still Down" is probly the best album tho
i think the Still I Rise is the best IMO!
still i rise only had one flaw, Fatal was taken off
still a good album and he had his own solo album round that time.
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i dunno,
none of the posthumous album were awful or really bad imo. all of em were okay, musicaly, i guess -
but Pac-purists tend to hate most of em, cuz teh songs were not in og-format or whatever
the "Tupac Resurrection" OST had some nice Eminem-production, and so did "Loyal To the Game",, like the Nate Dogg-song
"R U Still Down" is probly the best album tho
i think the Still I Rise is the best IMO!
still i rise only had one flaw, Fatal was taken off
he is a wack back up rapper whose own solo album is a "throwaway"
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some more of my fave posthumous tracks
- words to my unborn
- street fame
- runnin on e
-black jesus
- everything they owe (the one with the salsa beat)
- pacs life (dope prince sample)
- all out
- lil homies
- teardropz/closed caskets
- late nite
only liked that one
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I think the worst track they butchered was when thugz cry. The original had one of my favorite 2pac hooks of all time and they replaced it with some cheesy no name singer with an awful hook.
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I think the worst track they butchered was when thugz cry. The original had one of my favorite 2pac hooks of all time and they replaced it with some cheesy no name singer with an awful hook.
To be fair to evil Amaru, that one is not their fault, they didn't have the correct acapella. Note all of the When Thugz Cry versions, prayer intro etc, and listen to the cpu gen acap (which is SUPERB) to really hear whats being said on one take.
So the take Amaru used didn't have the chorus or outro, so they are not to blame for the acapella issues you pointed out.
Hard to believe they remixed it considering Sting has recorded a version of When Thugz Cry in tribute to 2pac. Shame on Amaru for putting the brakes on that project, so we won't hear Sting sing rap When Thugz Cry...
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Still I Rise has one track that really pissed me off when i bought the album and that was Black Jesus.
They changed the beat to some poor mans Hail Mary and it ruined the whole thing. The OG beat for Black Jesus was dope!
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I think the worst track they butchered was when thugz cry. The original had one of my favorite 2pac hooks of all time and they replaced it with some cheesy no name singer with an awful hook.
To be fair to evil Amaru, that one is not their fault, they didn't have the correct acapella. Note all of the When Thugz Cry versions, prayer intro etc, and listen to the cpu gen acap (which is SUPERB) to really hear whats being said on one take.
So the take Amaru used didn't have the chorus or outro, so they are not to blame for the acapella issues you pointed out.
Hard to believe they remixed it considering Sting has recorded a version of When Thugz Cry in tribute to 2pac. Shame on Amaru for putting the brakes on that project, so we won't hear Sting sing rap When Thugz Cry...
The actual OG of UTEOT's When Thugz Cry has been released though on the Makaveli Demo. Same prayer intro and outro and all so they had to have had the acapella with all layers. Maybe they thought the chorus was too violent or some other bullshit behind the scenes politics
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still i rise only had one flaw, Fatal was taken off
Only if you look past Napolean rapping Pac's verse in U Can Be Touched, or the terribly remixed Tattoo Tears, or the corny chorus on Still I Rise, or the shit-looking cover.
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i dunno,
none of the posthumous album were awful or really bad imo. all of em were okay, musicaly, i guess -
but Pac-purists tend to hate most of em, cuz teh songs were not in og-format or whatever
the "Tupac Resurrection" OST had some nice Eminem-production, and so did "Loyal To the Game",, like the Nate Dogg-song
"R U Still Down" is probly the best album tho
i think the Still I Rise is the best IMO!
still i rise only had one flaw, Fatal was taken off
still a good album and he had his own solo album round that time.
In the Line of Fire...that record is an underground CLASSIC. the single with Tame One got lots of play on Stretch and Bobbito and underground NY radio stations and the song with Freddie Foxxx also got him a lot more attention.
then his second album, Fatal, had a few memorable songs on it but was nothing special
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still i rise only had one flaw, Fatal was taken off
Only if you look past Napolean rapping Pac's verse in U Can Be Touched, or the terribly remixed Tattoo Tears, or the corny chorus on Still I Rise, or the shit-looking cover.
pacs verse wouldnt have sounded right over that beat, pac rapped it kinda soft
and tattoo tears remix was good but the original is just incredible
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why do people get so emotional over pac threads?
(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4441/2pacstan.jpg)
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why do people get so emotional over pac threads?
(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4441/2pacstan.jpg)
Why have you taken a photo of yourself shoving a TV remote up your ass?
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objectively, there was never anythin wrong wit the posthumous-Pac music like that.
if u didnt have any shitty phone-ripped "O.G.'s" to compare wit, or if Pac was alive when he
recorded to these new beats, yall would like that shit
and Amaru Entertainment werent wrong for blendin the acapellas wit new shit,
they were tryin to cater to a mainstream-audience, and keep Pacs name out there posthumously for the new generations.
i can understand that.
considerin how much music Pac recorded when he was alive, i doubt he would even care if some
of it was remixed. in fact, some of the stuff that he recorded for "Me against the world"
was actually remixed and flipped for the retail-release (if i remember correctly)
some of the o.g.'s are weak IMO, most of em had additional verses from young Outlaw-kids (less
talented),
--> shitty and redundant to the songs
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secrets of war is a dope as record too.
theres so many versions out there. the original one i had on casette back in 97 had a pac verse a fatal or khadafi (cant remember) verse then just ad libs for a few mins like it wasnt done.
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and tattoo tears remix was good
No it wasn't, that beat was a big fucking mess. Half of the songs on Pac's Life were better than this shit remix.
and Amaru Entertainment werent wrong for blendin the acapellas wit new shit,
they were tryin to cater to a mainstream-audience, and keep Pacs name out there posthumously for the new generations.
i can understand that.
I can understand that too, but they didn't pull it off successfully, outside of Changes and maybe even Until the End of Time, both of which were following the trend of people (particularly from Bad Boy) who were making hits from '80s samples. At times they used some decent producers, but for the most part they either went with unknowns who weren't exactly overflowing with talent or with old producers out of their groove but expected to make something with the same chemistry as before but with a style that caters to the mainstream audience at that time... but in most cases, those old producers weren't exactly poppin by that time, like Johnny J.
I can appreciate that they tried to go with artists that were popular, but they weren't always good matches for Pac... just look at how awkward Lil Mo sounded on Niggaz Nature Remix (and she didn't withstand the test of time), or Trick Daddy on Still Ballin (and he didn't exactly have a great career either past his initial buzz). There were tons of other artists they could've gone with, even past Death Row artists. For example, Kurupt still had some decent buzz back then and likely wouldn't have been one to charge $15,000 for a verse.
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I thought Until the end of time was his best posthumous album and a pretty great album itself imo
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I thought Until the end of time was his best posthumous album and a pretty great album itself imo
It had the most potential, considering the fact that the songs used were among the better ones of Amaru's stash at that time.