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Title: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Cavvy on March 21, 2012, 11:10:56 PM
Lets dissect these 3 records.
Its safe to say Da Game is to be sold is a horrible album. Mostly down to the production,features and Snoop trying to revisit past glories on gin and Juice 2 and still a G thang. best track? possibly "slow down"
Classic No Limit era album cover is probably the best thing you could say about this project. P essentially took one of the games hottest talents and damn near flushed his career down the toilet
thoughts?
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Russell Bell on March 21, 2012, 11:18:03 PM
2 out of 3 good albums
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Cavvy on March 21, 2012, 11:18:43 PM
everything about Da Game was rectified on Top Dogg
Easily Snoops best since Doggystyle, production mainly handled outside No Limit,few No Limit soldiers verses and some classic heat
I can never decide which was better this or Last meal
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Cavvy on March 21, 2012, 11:28:41 PM
The Last meal was a solid release
The only thing I have a problem with are the two timbaland produced tracks which are just flat out terrible, set it off also contains an atrocious Ice Cube hook.
Kokane is the MVP on this one, hes pretty omnipresent over the album and adds a new dimension to Snoops sound at that time
according to wiki

The album was leaked on the internet on December 1, 2000 by Suge Knight who made all tracks downloadable in MP3 from the official site of his and Snoop Dogg's former company Death Row Records, which featured links to tracks from both Tha Last Meal and Dead Man Walkin' albums, asking visitors to "take The Snoop Dogg Challenge" and decide "song for song" which is the better album
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Sir Petey on March 22, 2012, 12:13:29 AM
game is to be sold....its a cool little album for what it is...its better then his recent shit.


it has a good handful of bangers and it goes hard in the trunk.
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on March 22, 2012, 12:16:25 AM
LET ME HEAR YOU SAY WOOF MOTHEFUCKER WOOF MOTHERFUCKERRR
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: doggfather on March 22, 2012, 06:47:38 AM

Its safe to say Da Game is to be sold is a horrible album.

that's right!
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on March 22, 2012, 06:58:41 AM
i dunno,
teh value in that album has kinda increased, if u compare it wit the other shit he dropped in recent years,,
still doenst take away from teh fact taht the album is terrible. the music was cool at times (i like KLC) and it had some nice songs like "Cant take the heat", but Snoop fucked it up wit his corny Silkk Shocker and Soulja Slim-impersonations.
when Percy swooped him up, n put him on the NL-roster, Snoop knew he was in the South, so instead of doin him, he adapted himself and his style,, and he failed in doin so..
but thats jus me, i guess
 
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: HighEyeCue on March 22, 2012, 07:03:50 AM
LET ME HEAR YOU SAY WOOF MOTHEFUCKER WOOF MOTHERFUCKERRR

I kinda liked that song :-[
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on March 22, 2012, 08:57:37 AM
LET ME HEAR YOU SAY WOOF MOTHEFUCKER WOOF MOTHERFUCKERRR

I kinda liked that song :-[

its an okay song
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on March 22, 2012, 10:47:28 AM
No Limit Top Dogg > Tha Last Meal > Da Game...

No Limit Top Dogg just had a good mix of producers and guests, including a lot of people he worked with before.  Even the Beats by the Pound songs were decent, as I sometimes finding myself wanting to play Down 4 My N's randomly.

Tha Last Meal was alright, but like someone else said, the Timbaland beats just don't go well with Snoop's flow and weren't even all that great for being Timbo joints.  The singles (aside from Lay Low) were among the corniest songs on there.  I don't count Wrong Idea as a single though, since I think the video was put out as a Bad Azz video since it was also on his album too.

Da Game just seemed rushed and had far too much No Limit on it, in terms of the album cover, guest appearances and production, which wasn't a good thing, as that No Limit style was starting to get played out while Cash Money was making their name more established as a New Orleans-based label, taking away some of No Limit's shine to the point where No Limit even started copying Cash Money, as they ditched the pen-and-pixel covers at some point while even switching up their production, evident when 504 Boyz dropped that "Wobble Wobble" single or whatever it was.
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Smokin Briccz on March 22, 2012, 10:59:26 AM
This is the only song I really liked on Game Is To Be Sold....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1d7V7ldh8w

the beat is the best part about this song.  :D

Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on March 22, 2012, 11:14:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYy6HI8iPH8

 8)
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Desert Lord on March 22, 2012, 11:30:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYy6HI8iPH8

 8)

yeah, that joint is funky...i also liked "the game of life"...
the album was weak at some points, but i think we all got to agree that it's way better then his new shit
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: BigNeckBone on March 22, 2012, 11:32:18 AM
To me Top Dogg & Tha Last Meal are two of his best albums he ever made. I will pick those two over any garbage he dropped in the past decade
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on March 22, 2012, 11:46:15 AM
To me Top Dogg & Tha Last Meal are two of his best albums he ever made. I will pick those two over any garbage he dropped in the past decade
Yeah, I think the last Snoop album I bought was Paid da Cost, which I was pretty disappointed with.  Also, Snoop just doesn't go well with DJ Premier beats either, plus the Neptunes beats used on this one were shitty (though they made up for it with Drop It Like It's Hot, whether you like it or not).
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: MUHFUKKA on March 22, 2012, 11:50:35 AM
i like da game better than r and g and malice in wonderland
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Cavvy on March 22, 2012, 12:04:37 PM
youve gotta respect P for how him and his label treated Snoop.
Your upcoming album, Tha Last Meal, is the last one you owe to both Priority Records and Master P's No Limit. There seems to be a message in the title.
The reason why I named it Tha Last Meal, is 'cause it's the last time these redneck label executives is gonna be eatin' off Snoop Dogg. And I'm not talkin' about Master P or No Limit. I'm talkin' 'bout Priority Records. I have nothing against P at all. If it wasn't for P and No Limit, I wouldn't be where I am today. If you think about it, No Limit is one of the best things that's happened to the rap industry. 'Cause before No Limit became so big, Death Row was the dominant force. Think about it this way: When niggas wanted to leave Death Row, there was violence and there was beef. They ran Death Row like a street company. No Limit, on the other hand, is run the way a business is supposed to be run.

Back when I was on Death Row . . . if a nigga wanted to leave, ma'fuckas would have the attitude, like, "This nigga's a bitch. Fuck that nigga." But that shit never happened with No Limit. Mystikal left, and there was no beef at all. Other people have left, and it was all cool. I'm leaving, and I'm gettin' nothin' but love. No Limit is full of positivity. Look what I did while I was on No Limit: I created my own record label [Doggystyle Records, distributed by TVT]. Master P didn't come to me and say, 'No Snoop. You can't do that.' He let me go about my business. P's a real nigga. That's why, with Tha Last Meal, I'm giving Master P the best record Snoop Dogg has ever put together, ever. It's because I feel he gave me the best chance in the world. He broke me free from those suckas on Death Row. He gave me a new life and helped me breathe easier. Show a nigga love, he'll show you love back.



Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on March 22, 2012, 01:26:33 PM
youve gotta respect P for how him and his label treated Snoop.
Your upcoming album, Tha Last Meal, is the last one you owe to both Priority Records and Master P's No Limit. There seems to be a message in the title.
The reason why I named it Tha Last Meal, is 'cause it's the last time these redneck label executives is gonna be eatin' off Snoop Dogg. And I'm not talkin' about Master P or No Limit. I'm talkin' 'bout Priority Records. I have nothing against P at all. If it wasn't for P and No Limit, I wouldn't be where I am today. If you think about it, No Limit is one of the best things that's happened to the rap industry. 'Cause before No Limit became so big, Death Row was the dominant force. Think about it this way: When niggas wanted to leave Death Row, there was violence and there was beef. They ran Death Row like a street company. No Limit, on the other hand, is run the way a business is supposed to be run.

Back when I was on Death Row . . . if a nigga wanted to leave, ma'fuckas would have the attitude, like, "This nigga's a bitch. Fuck that nigga." But that shit never happened with No Limit. Mystikal left, and there was no beef at all. Other people have left, and it was all cool. I'm leaving, and I'm gettin' nothin' but love. No Limit is full of positivity. Look what I did while I was on No Limit: I created my own record label [Doggystyle Records, distributed by TVT]. Master P didn't come to me and say, 'No Snoop. You can't do that.' He let me go about my business. P's a real nigga. That's why, with Tha Last Meal, I'm giving Master P the best record Snoop Dogg has ever put together, ever. It's because I feel he gave me the best chance in the world. He broke me free from those suckas on Death Row. He gave me a new life and helped me breathe easier. Show a nigga love, he'll show you love back.
But that's not all 100% true.  It is regarding their treatment of Snoop, but No Limit wasn't always polite toward artists who left, Mystikal in particular.  He left in 1998 or so, and on the intro of Master P's Ghetto Postage album (which came out in 2000), he goes "And all the fakers, we done got rid of 'em," which was toward Mystikal, and I think there were a few other references to him.  Additionally, in the end, No Limit's business practices weren't all that wise.  Remember that the record label itself went bankrupt (while P likely still had millions that he kept while letting the label go down), while they ended up just focusing on the main Miller family (Master P, Silkk, C-Murder and Lil Romeo) as far as releasing stuff.

But what I do give them credit for is how Master P supposedly visited Suge in prison when Snoop wanted to sign just to get his blessing... which is more than most people have done when dealing with Suge.
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Crockett on March 22, 2012, 03:50:03 PM
i cant take the heat alsways sounded good to me... loose ends shit
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Sir Petey on March 22, 2012, 03:56:56 PM
the main flaw in TGITBTNS is the mixing.


they didnt know how to get snoops voice to mesh with the track. snoop wasnt confident enough in his own sound and needed a dre or someone like that to say hey go back and spit this line harder or say it different.

Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: TidyKris on March 22, 2012, 04:44:00 PM
In my eyes Snoop's only got 4 albums:

Doggystyle
Tha Doggfarther
No Limit Top Dogg
The Last Meal

I dont recall any other album being released by him..........at all  ::)
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: KC-HOODSTA on March 22, 2012, 05:59:40 PM
you guys are some fucking haters how is this album terrible??????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmK5GvDXItM



classsiiiccc(C-Murder always on point with everything man)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1ZtE-LRjB8
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Blasphemy (A) on March 22, 2012, 06:12:19 PM
In my eyes Snoop's only got 4 albums:

Doggystyle
Tha Doggfarther
No Limit Top Dogg
The Last Meal

I dont recall any other album being released by him..........at all  ::)
Really? No Blue Carpet Treatment? Come on that's probably his second best album (imo it's Doggystyle>BLue Carpet>Doggystyle for his 3).

Da GAme is to be sold, Not Told was just pure fucking ass to me.

No Limit Top Dogg I Like better then the Last Meal but it's not by much. both albums where pretty enjoyable equally.

 
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Will_B on March 23, 2012, 12:29:14 AM
the main flaw in TGITBTNS is the mixing.


they didnt know how to get snoops voice to mesh with the track. snoop wasnt confident enough in his own sound and needed a dre or someone like that to say hey go back and spit this line harder or say it different.


Co-sign.

After we discussed this last time I went back to the album and focused just on snoops mic game, and he sounds like ass on half the cd.

I still love the beats and the swag of the album tho,

What's that freestyle where snoop got crazy long hair, his no limit chain and a jumpsuit on? He's freestylin with a bunch of other dudes at the end of some tv show. Snoop came off as a monster on the mic back then, I was  :o

Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Sccit on March 23, 2012, 12:56:23 AM
the main flaw in TGITBTNS is the mixing.


they didnt know how to get snoops voice to mesh with the track. snoop wasnt confident enough in his own sound and needed a dre or someone like that to say hey go back and spit this line harder or say it different.




pretty much


Snoop was still hungry with No Limit.....right now, he's beyond comfortable, eating off of effortless music. thats why rappers get worse as they get older...it's all matter of hunger.
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Cavvy on March 23, 2012, 01:26:35 AM
the main flaw in TGITBTNS is the mixing.


they didnt know how to get snoops voice to mesh with the track. snoop wasnt confident enough in his own sound and needed a dre or someone like that to say hey go back and spit this line harder or say it different.




pretty much


Snoop was still hungry with No Limit.....right now, he's beyond comfortable, eating off of effortless music. thats why rappers get worse as they get older...it's all matter of hunger.

how do you explain Kool G Rap and sean Price then bro?
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Sccit on March 23, 2012, 01:30:42 AM
the main flaw in TGITBTNS is the mixing.


they didnt know how to get snoops voice to mesh with the track. snoop wasnt confident enough in his own sound and needed a dre or someone like that to say hey go back and spit this line harder or say it different.




pretty much


Snoop was still hungry with No Limit.....right now, he's beyond comfortable, eating off of effortless music. thats why rappers get worse as they get older...it's all matter of hunger.

how do you explain Kool G Rap and sean Price then bro?



they still hungry.....
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Sir Petey on March 23, 2012, 03:01:21 PM
g raps last shit let me down ive been a g rap fan since his 2nd album when i was in elementary. my uncles used to play it like it was the hardest shit they ever heard. his last album he didnt sound hungry and he seemed to be conforming his style a bit....sean p i got mad respect for, he dont cater to radio or anything he makes his gritty boom bap shit and wont compromise that for shit. imo hes the spokesperson for the working class 30 something hip hop crowd.



Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Cavvy on March 23, 2012, 03:36:13 PM
g raps last shit let me down ive been a g rap fan since his 2nd album when i was in elementary. my uncles used to play it like it was the hardest shit they ever heard. his last album he didnt sound hungry and he seemed to be conforming his style a bit....sean p i got mad respect for, he dont cater to radio or anything he makes his gritty boom bap shit and wont compromise that for shit. imo hes the spokesperson for the working class 30 something hip hop crowd.





G Rap and Necro are about to release an album I think with Necro on the boards
should be dope
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: HighEyeCue on March 25, 2012, 06:40:34 AM
still a g thang was underrated IMO, dope track 8)
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Black Excellence on March 26, 2012, 10:02:52 AM
the main flaw in TGITBTNS is the mixing.


they didnt know how to get snoops voice to mesh with the track. snoop wasnt confident enough in his own sound and needed a dre or someone like that to say hey go back and spit this line harder or say it different.




pretty much


Snoop was still hungry with No Limit.....right now, he's beyond comfortable, eating off of effortless music. thats why rappers get worse as they get older...it's all matter of hunger.
Title: Re: a closer look at No Limit era Snoop
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on March 26, 2012, 10:04:13 AM
g raps last shit let me down ive been a g rap fan since his 2nd album when i was in elementary. my uncles used to play it like it was the hardest shit they ever heard. his last album he didnt sound hungry and he seemed to be conforming his style a bit....sean p i got mad respect for, he dont cater to radio or anything he makes his gritty boom bap shit and wont compromise that for shit. imo hes the spokesperson for the working class 30 something hip hop crowd.





G Rap and Necro are about to release an album I think with Necro on the boards
should be dope

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