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Title: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: FilthyFill33 on March 25, 2012, 11:15:42 PM
lmao this nicca ran snoop out his own house

Tray Deee Interview Tha Eastsidaz have gotten a taste of what it feels like to be on the wrong side of the game. The group claims that the man who brought them to West Coast prominence, Snoop Dogg, duped the them of over $1 million each. With platinum and gold albums on their resume, Tha Eastsidaz say they have received about $240,000 and a platinum chain as payment for their success.

Obviously, Snoop Dogg’s alleged reciprocity practices do not bode well with Tha Eastsidaz. The situation has reportedly gotten heated to the point of violence. Alongside a reputable accounting firm, they have decided to take their fight to the legal arena to get what is due them. AllHipHop.com talked to Tha Eastsidaz’s Tray Dee hours before an alleged and well-publicized shooting incident. The rapper was arrested in his home after a witness stated he was involved with the felony.

Still, regardless of the case, the group just wants justice – by any means. Read the shocking interview.

Allhiphop.com: We received a press release with a statement saying some disparaging things about Snoop Dogg. Is any of what I read true?

Tray Deee: That’s as real as it gets, brother. They are a bunch of bustas, man. A bunch of opportunists who saw what was really going on and was hiding behind closed doors and really wasn’t participating in it. They got their stories together and created a character, man. They are like those “Peanuts” characters from Charlie Brown. They are a bunch of fabricated images without a foundation under them. One day, they kickin’ “187 on an undercover cop,” but deep down inside, he wanted to be a little pimp. I guess when the fame caught him, he got caught up in all the glitz and glamour. What he aspired to be when he looked out of his window, he wanted to be me.

Allhiphop.com: The first Eastsidaz album went platinum, right?

Tray Deee: The first one went platinum. The second one was headed to platinum, but they sabotaged it after we found out what the situation really was as far as how they did us on points and royalties.

Allhiphop.com: Did they pay you and Goldie Loc the amount of money you were due from the first album?

Tray Deee: We actually received $40,000.

Allhiphop.com: You only got $40,000 from a platinum album? Who in the hell received the gist of that money?

Tray Deee: Snoop and TVT.

Allhiphop.com: What kind of numbers did the second album hit?

Tray Deee: It went gold. It sold about 700,000 copies.

Allhiphop.com: How was the money divvied up on that album?

Tray Deee: We got a $200,000 advance and that was it. They raked in all the spoils and didn’t divide it. Snoop was all in it with that Steve Gottlieb dude. He tried to play all innocent and all that. He’s still smoking blunts and coaching kids, man. He’s the biggest sucker of them all. He ran. I tried to address the situation with him as a man. We’ve been going at it for the past two years. I’ve been trying to resolve with him diplomatically, not going to court, because I want him to say, “yeah man, I did wrong, but let me make it right.” He ain’t man enough to even do that. He would rather hire a bunch of security to protect me from getting to him. I’ve been checking him, man. He’s been living off of my “G” reputation since 1995.

Allhiphop.com: On the outside, Snoop seems cool. But you know hims - how is he outside of the cameras and paparazzi?

Tray Deee: He’s a family man, wants to do right by his children. His wife runs the household. He just wants his little space to act like he’s pimpin’, but in actuality he’s paying. He’s paying Don (Magic) Juan and the hoes. He’s Don Juan’s main hoe!

Allhiphop.com: (laughs)

Tray Deee: He don’t walk around Long Beach or nothing like that. He sends scouts out to look around to see who’s where so he knows which places to avoid. So when he shows up, everything’s cool. He has 20 bodyguards surrounding him with a bunch of blunt rollers and yes men.

Allhiphop.com: I was reading a story about he gave you and Goldie Loc a chain as payment for the album. Is there any truth to that?

Tray Deee: Yeah, a little platinum chain. He tried to say it cost $71,000, but then he turned around and said that’s what he paid for 10 of them. The first ones he gave us were cubic zirconias and silver. Then, he went to the jeweler and had them do up about 10 real pieces. I went and finished getting mine flooded out on my own expense. He’ll give you $5,000 to write a verse for him, or $5,000-$10,000 to do a song with him. He’ll turn around and make a million, or two or three.

Allhiphop.com: Snoop has to be a multi-millionaire with all of that going on.

Tray Deee: If you tell him you’re doing bad, he’ll give you $50 or something, then tell the bodyguards to show you the door.

Allhiphop.com: What was the situation when you went to his house and tried to collect the money he owes you?

Tray Deee: I went on peace to tell him to come clean with what he owes me. He ran out of his house and hopped in his truck. His bodyguard tried to tell him to come back. I told him to go ahead, add it up and chip mines off. I came back the next day to collect, and his people fired on me.

Allhiphop.com: They shot at you?

Tray Deee: Yeah, they unleashed some shots at me.

Allhiphop.com: Well, the word on the street was you were shaking Snoop down. He was actually paying you.

Tray Deee: No, we weren’t shaking him down. He was paying the homeboys to keep the rest of the homeboys off of him. He’s a ***** boy. He don’t take care of his people, man. He don’t got no businesses in the city, none of that.

Allhiphop.com: Do you have any sort of legal leg to stand on in all of this?

Tray Deee: Fa sho, fa sho! I got Fred Moutrie from an accounting firm (Moss Adams LLP) who says they owe us $1,000,000 a piece.

Allhiphop.com: You and Goldie Loc are owed in excess of $1,000,000 each?

Tray Deee: Yep. Me and Goldie. But now, I’m the talent coordinator for the Xtreme Fighting Championships.

Allhiphop.com: Really?

Tray Deee: Yeah, I’m on the Board of Directors; I’m a shareholder. Tito Ortiz is my business partner.

Allhiphop.com: Tito Ortiz is the truth. He will split your wig in four or five places in a second.

Tray Deee: I want to tell to Snoop to go to the Staples Center and meet me in the Octagon. No holds barred for $1,000,000 a piece. I’ll give him 90 days to train for it, too.

Allhiphop.com: (laughs)

Tray Deee: Him and his security detail. We’ll match off weight classes.

Allhiphop.com: He's is a pretty thin guy.

Tray Deee: It don’t matter, man. He can put somebody in there my weight, and I’ll get somebody his weight to deal with him. We’ll do it on pay per view. Him and his security against me and my homeboys.

Allhiphop.com: Cats don't know about a fight any more.

Tray Deee: Exactly! His Dogghouse record label, too.

Allhiphop.com: Watch out, man, he’ll get Kokane to come after you! (laughs)

Tray Deee: Kokane ain’t with him no more. It’s him, Supafly, E. White, RBX…a bunch of bums! A bunch of wannabes and ass men.

Allhiphop.com: (laughs)

Tray Deee: And tell him he can even get G-Unit since he’s on their nuts. He can name his squad the DPG Unit, since he’s on 50 Cent’s and Chingy’s nuts. Get 50 Cent and his boys, too!

Allhiphop.com: Man, you are hysterical!

Tray Deee: He can get G-Unit and the Chingy posse against Tray Deee and the Eastside Crips.

Allhiphop.com: (laughs) You are killing me, man!

Tray Deee: He wants P-Diddy to produce his next album. How is he going to be a West Coast artist and his last two singles was “From The Chuuch To Da Palace” and “Beautiful?”
Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on March 25, 2012, 11:25:25 PM
he tells the truth
Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: Black Excellence on March 26, 2012, 09:53:45 AM
this shit was funny as hell.
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Post by: Desert Lord on March 26, 2012, 10:14:10 AM
this shit was funny as hell.
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Post by: doggfather on March 26, 2012, 11:31:17 AM
this shit was funny as hell.
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Post by: Cavvy on March 26, 2012, 11:33:49 AM
disloyal motherfucker
Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: Cavvy on March 26, 2012, 11:40:40 AM
have to laugh at how much theses artists think theyre entitled to.
heres an idea sign your contracts after having an accountant looking at them
Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: MUHFUKKA on March 26, 2012, 11:46:15 AM
yeah he should have had more business sense but at the same time i bet everything he said about snoop was true
Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: Black Excellence on March 26, 2012, 12:39:37 PM
have to laugh at how much theses artists think theyre entitled to.
heres an idea sign your contracts after having an accountant looking at them
snoop shoulda done his biz right wit dude though. when he left snoop stop making hot shit.
Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on March 26, 2012, 02:20:45 PM
have to laugh at how much theses artists think theyre entitled to.
heres an idea sign your contracts after having an accountant looking at them
snoop shoulda done his biz right wit dude though. when he left snoop stop making hot shit.
True.  With their experiences with Suge and Death Row (some good, some bad), you'd think that Snoop would at least take care of his homies who appeared alongside him on some fairly successful albums and not give them a shitty album deal.  True, having an accountant look over their contracts would have helped, but there's a certain level of trust that they had with each other, and Snoop broke that trust.

I don't disagree with Snoop getting the lion's share of that -- it was his name that likely fueled a lot of its sales (as it was marketed as "Snoop Dogg Presents Tha Eastsidaz" and put on shelves alongside his other albums), but it was just split so disproportionately.  It's reminiscent of how the money was split between N.W.A.
Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: bouli77 on March 26, 2012, 02:47:09 PM
have to laugh at how much theses artists think theyre entitled to.
heres an idea sign your contracts after having an accountant looking at them
snoop shoulda done his biz right wit dude though. when he left snoop stop making hot shit.
True.  With their experiences with Suge and Death Row (some good, some bad), you'd think that Snoop would at least take care of his homies who appeared alongside him on some fairly successful albums and not give them a shitty album deal.  True, having an accountant look over their contracts would have helped, but there's a certain level of trust that they had with each other, and Snoop broke that trust.

I don't disagree with Snoop getting the lion's share of that -- it was his name that likely fueled a lot of its sales (as it was marketed as "Snoop Dogg Presents Tha Eastsidaz" and put on shelves alongside his other albums), but it was just split so disproportionately.  It's reminiscent of how the money was split between N.W.A.

you've summed up perfectly what I think. couldn't have said it any better.
Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: papa-smurf on March 26, 2012, 04:15:15 PM
i dont have nothing against snoop.but he should of kept it real with tray dee,tray deee a real street dude & tray dee was the reason snoop was bale 2 go 2 long beach.snoop should know not 2 do a nigga like tray deee wrong
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Post by: Cavvy on March 26, 2012, 11:33:23 PM
If tha Eastsidaz were getting that screwed over why is Goldie still working with Snoop?
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Post by: doggfather on March 26, 2012, 11:43:05 PM
If tha Eastsidaz were getting that screwed over why is Goldie still working with Snoop?

cause he can't make money alone.
Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: Dre-Day on March 27, 2012, 09:01:18 AM
have to laugh at how much theses artists think theyre entitled to.
heres an idea sign your contracts after having an accountant looking at them
snoop shoulda done his biz right wit dude though. when he left snoop stop making hot shit.
True.  With their experiences with Suge and Death Row (some good, some bad), you'd think that Snoop would at least take care of his homies who appeared alongside him on some fairly successful albums and not give them a shitty album deal.  True, having an accountant look over their contracts would have helped, but there's a certain level of trust that they had with each other, and Snoop broke that trust.

I don't disagree with Snoop getting the lion's share of that -- it was his name that likely fueled a lot of its sales (as it was marketed as "Snoop Dogg Presents Tha Eastsidaz" and put on shelves alongside his other albums), but it was just split so disproportionately.  It's reminiscent of how the money was split between N.W.A.
the nwa members got paid better
Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on March 27, 2012, 09:41:43 AM
have to laugh at how much theses artists think theyre entitled to.
heres an idea sign your contracts after having an accountant looking at them
snoop shoulda done his biz right wit dude though. when he left snoop stop making hot shit.
True.  With their experiences with Suge and Death Row (some good, some bad), you'd think that Snoop would at least take care of his homies who appeared alongside him on some fairly successful albums and not give them a shitty album deal.  True, having an accountant look over their contracts would have helped, but there's a certain level of trust that they had with each other, and Snoop broke that trust.

I don't disagree with Snoop getting the lion's share of that -- it was his name that likely fueled a lot of its sales (as it was marketed as "Snoop Dogg Presents Tha Eastsidaz" and put on shelves alongside his other albums), but it was just split so disproportionately.  It's reminiscent of how the money was split between N.W.A.
the nwa members got paid better
Did they?  I remember reading in the N.W.A chapter of that VIBE History of Hip-Hop book that on Straight Outta Compton, Ice Cube only got something like $23,000 for his involvement, which included his own contributions along with writing a lot of Eazy's lyrics (and likely some of Dre's).  Pretty shitty for a double platinum album.  I also remember reading that when Jerry Heller's involvement had increased and he tried to get them to sign actual contracts, he was giving the group (aside from Eazy, who was getting a much bigger cut) $75,000 advances toward their slave contracts.  Remember that Cube was the only one who didn't want to sign right away and wanted to have the contract reviewed.
Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: Dre-Day on March 27, 2012, 10:13:49 AM
have to laugh at how much theses artists think theyre entitled to.
heres an idea sign your contracts after having an accountant looking at them
snoop shoulda done his biz right wit dude though. when he left snoop stop making hot shit.
True.  With their experiences with Suge and Death Row (some good, some bad), you'd think that Snoop would at least take care of his homies who appeared alongside him on some fairly successful albums and not give them a shitty album deal.  True, having an accountant look over their contracts would have helped, but there's a certain level of trust that they had with each other, and Snoop broke that trust.

I don't disagree with Snoop getting the lion's share of that -- it was his name that likely fueled a lot of its sales (as it was marketed as "Snoop Dogg Presents Tha Eastsidaz" and put on shelves alongside his other albums), but it was just split so disproportionately.  It's reminiscent of how the money was split between N.W.A.
the nwa members got paid better
Did they?  I remember reading in the N.W.A chapter of that VIBE History of Hip-Hop book that on Straight Outta Compton, Ice Cube only got something like $23,000 for his involvement, which included his own contributions along with writing a lot of Eazy's lyrics (and likely some of Dre's).  Pretty shitty for a double platinum album.  I also remember reading that when Jerry Heller's involvement had increased and he tried to get them to sign actual contracts, he was giving the group (aside from Eazy, who was getting a much bigger cut) $75,000 advances toward their slave contracts.  Remember that Cube was the only one who didn't want to sign right away and wanted to have the contract reviewed.
23000? i don't buy that. jerry talks about the contracts in his book too, i quoted it before on this forum ( dont remember where i posted it though).
one of the things he said is, that cube is still receiving royalties from the sales of straight outta compton. i know a lot of people think jerry heller is the devil, but he explained in his book how every $1 of the sales was split. yes he also said that eazy e received the most, as he was the owner of the company. i think that's fair.

yes i know cube didn't sign that contract, he didn't trust it. but he works with similar contracts for his artists, so how serious should i take his rant?
sure he wasn't the only one ranting, but there are also artists like above the law & dj yella who felt they were treated properly
Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on March 27, 2012, 12:24:17 PM
23000? i don't buy that. jerry talks about the contracts in his book too, i quoted it before on this forum ( dont remember where i posted it though).
one of the things he said is, that cube is still receiving royalties from the sales of straight outta compton. i know a lot of people think jerry heller is the devil, but he explained in his book how every $1 of the sales was split. yes he also said that eazy e received the most, as he was the owner of the company. i think that's fair.

yes i know cube didn't sign that contract, he didn't trust it. but he works with similar contracts for his artists, so how serious should i take his rant?
sure he wasn't the only one ranting, but there are also artists like above the law & dj yella who felt they were treated properly
I'm just going by what I remember reading.  I'll have to check out that Jerry Heller book since I'm curious how the split was.

I'm not saying he was the devil (and I never said that either), but of course in his own book he will paint a different picture of himself than how he had been portrayed, whether it's true or not, so we have to look at it from various angles.  I do remember in an interview that ended up being a part of MTV's Life on Death Row documentary, there's footage of Jerry saying that "Dre was certainly being paid according to his contract, but perhaps not what his value had become."  While that could be true, it may not be the whole truth.  For all we know, Dre, perhaps like other N.W.A members including Cube, may have had a slave deal to begin with, so to say that they were being "paid according to contract" might be nice but it doesn't mean that the record company wasn't taking advantage of them.

Again, like in Snoop's case, I do feel that Eazy-E did deserve a bigger cut of the money, given the fact that he was the one who funded the start-up of N.W.A.  But I distinctly remember a Cube interview (perhaps heard in the Beef DVD) where he talked about how Eazy-E kept the money from Eazy-Duz-It (or at least didn't break bread the way the others had hoped, considering everyone else's involvement, like Cube penning a lot of the lyrics) while again taking a big cut of the N.W.A projects.  Obviously the way business works, the guys at the top get the biggest cut, but again, it didn't seem like Eazy was trying all that hard to get the other members of N.W.A much of a paycheck.
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Post by: Smackdog on March 27, 2012, 12:37:18 PM
snoop likes to play dress up as a pimp and dance around in music videos like that,  that is all you really need to say about the man.
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on March 27, 2012, 11:40:43 PM
snoop likes to play dress up as a pimp and dance around in music videos like that,  that is all you really need to say about the man.

lol
Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: Dre-Day on March 28, 2012, 03:37:04 AM
23000? i don't buy that. jerry talks about the contracts in his book too, i quoted it before on this forum ( dont remember where i posted it though).
one of the things he said is, that cube is still receiving royalties from the sales of straight outta compton. i know a lot of people think jerry heller is the devil, but he explained in his book how every $1 of the sales was split. yes he also said that eazy e received the most, as he was the owner of the company. i think that's fair.

yes i know cube didn't sign that contract, he didn't trust it. but he works with similar contracts for his artists, so how serious should i take his rant?
sure he wasn't the only one ranting, but there are also artists like above the law & dj yella who felt they were treated properly
I'm just going by what I remember reading.  I'll have to check out that Jerry Heller book since I'm curious how the split was.

I'm not saying he was the devil (and I never said that either), but of course in his own book he will paint a different picture of himself than how he had been portrayed, whether it's true or not, so we have to look at it from various angles.  I do remember in an interview that ended up being a part of MTV's Life on Death Row documentary, there's footage of Jerry saying that "Dre was certainly being paid according to his contract, but perhaps not what his value had become."  While that could be true, it may not be the whole truth.  For all we know, Dre, perhaps like other N.W.A members including Cube, may have had a slave deal to begin with, so to say that they were being "paid according to contract" might be nice but it doesn't mean that the record company wasn't taking advantage of them.

Again, like in Snoop's case, I do feel that Eazy-E did deserve a bigger cut of the money, given the fact that he was the one who funded the start-up of N.W.A.  But I distinctly remember a Cube interview (perhaps heard in the Beef DVD) where he talked about how Eazy-E kept the money from Eazy-Duz-It (or at least didn't break bread the way the others had hoped, considering everyone else's involvement, like Cube penning a lot of the lyrics) while again taking a big cut of the N.W.A projects.  Obviously the way business works, the guys at the top get the biggest cut, but again, it didn't seem like Eazy was trying all that hard to get the other members of N.W.A much of a paycheck.
i found the parts i quoted before

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ruthless took twenty five cents out of each dollar of publishing royalties
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the other publishing companies involved also took twenty five cents
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Of the fifty cents left, the lyric writer took twenty five cents, and the beat writer took twenty-five cents.
Dre composed the beats for every song NWA ever put out, so he always got that quarter out of every dollar coming in, less deductions for all his sampling

i know you didn't say he was the devil.
yeah i've seen that video interview too.
dre & ice cube say they were getting ripped off but i don't believe that. in my opinion they were just jealous of eazy. the success of nwa boosted their ego's
Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on March 28, 2012, 09:57:57 AM
i found the parts i quoted before

Quote
ruthless took twenty five cents out of each dollar of publishing royalties
Quote
the other publishing companies involved also took twenty five cents
Quote
Of the fifty cents left, the lyric writer took twenty five cents, and the beat writer took twenty-five cents.
Dre composed the beats for every song NWA ever put out, so he always got that quarter out of every dollar coming in, less deductions for all his sampling

i know you didn't say he was the devil.
yeah i've seen that video interview too.
dre & ice cube say they were getting ripped off but i don't believe that. in my opinion they were just jealous of eazy. the success of nwa boosted their ego's

Interesting.  I'll check that VIBE History of Hip-Hop book too, though I'm not sure if I have that book at my place or if it's in a box with other books in my closet back at my family's house, just to pull up the numbers that they spoke of.

The breakdown of the revenue per dollar is interesting but can get confusing.  I assume that the publishing company would pertain to the specific artist performing (like how Dre's was "Ain't Nuthin Goin' on but Fuckin'" and how Pac's was "Joshua's Dream"), but obviously when there are multiple artists performing, that quarter gets split up.  Similarly, with writing credit, that will likely get split up too, since while Cube wrote a lot of lyrics, I don't think he wrote for EVERYBODY.  Additionally, guys like Puffy were known to increase their cut by doing stupid things, like how Puffy always throws his adlibs onto other people's songs, even though he's not the main artist and he's not really contributing anything.  But because his voice appears on the song, he gets to nudge himself into the publishing and writing credits too.  I think it was The LOX who had talked about how Puff would do all sorts of shit like that, like bringing his cars to video shoots to use on-screen while charging them a rental fee of some sort.
Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: HighEyeCue on March 28, 2012, 03:42:22 PM
I would have liked to known how much of Snoop's lyrics were ghostwritten by Tray Dee in those days

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Post by: D-TalkX on March 28, 2012, 08:51:17 PM
have to laugh at how much theses artists think theyre entitled to.
heres an idea sign your contracts after having an accountant looking at them
Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: Dre-Day on March 29, 2012, 01:31:12 AM
i found the parts i quoted before

Quote
ruthless took twenty five cents out of each dollar of publishing royalties
Quote
the other publishing companies involved also took twenty five cents
Quote
Of the fifty cents left, the lyric writer took twenty five cents, and the beat writer took twenty-five cents.
Dre composed the beats for every song NWA ever put out, so he always got that quarter out of every dollar coming in, less deductions for all his sampling

i know you didn't say he was the devil.
yeah i've seen that video interview too.
dre & ice cube say they were getting ripped off but i don't believe that. in my opinion they were just jealous of eazy. the success of nwa boosted their ego's

Interesting.  I'll check that VIBE History of Hip-Hop book too, though I'm not sure if I have that book at my place or if it's in a box with other books in my closet back at my family's house, just to pull up the numbers that they spoke of.

The breakdown of the revenue per dollar is interesting but can get confusing.  I assume that the publishing company would pertain to the specific artist performing (like how Dre's was "Ain't Nuthin Goin' on but Fuckin'" and how Pac's was "Joshua's Dream"), but obviously when there are multiple artists performing, that quarter gets split up.  Similarly, with writing credit, that will likely get split up too, since while Cube wrote a lot of lyrics, I don't think he wrote for EVERYBODY.  Additionally, guys like Puffy were known to increase their cut by doing stupid things, like how Puffy always throws his adlibs onto other people's songs, even though he's not the main artist and he's not really contributing anything.  But because his voice appears on the song, he gets to nudge himself into the publishing and writing credits too.  I think it was The LOX who had talked about how Puff would do all sorts of shit like that, like bringing his cars to video shoots to use on-screen while charging them a rental fee of some sort.
yeah i think it's the publishing companies of the artists.

welll mc ren wrote his own verses and wrote for eazy e, cube wrote for eazy too. cube wrote express yourself for dr.dre
Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: Cavvy on March 29, 2012, 01:36:34 PM
I would have liked to known how much of Snoop's lyrics were ghostwritten by Tray Dee in those days



Id have to guess very few of his rhymes were ever written by Tray Deee
Dudes not exactly what you would call a great lyricist.
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Post by: bouli77 on March 29, 2012, 02:09:08 PM
not a great but definitely a lyricist and a good one for that matter
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Post by: Smokin Briccz on March 29, 2012, 10:29:18 PM
lol classic interview
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Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on April 08, 2012, 10:34:35 PM
Hey Dre-Day -- found that book I was talking about when visiting the fam for Easter. It said:

"Of the $650,000 N.W.A grossed from their tour, Heller kept $150,000 for himself, while Cube walked away with a paltry $23,000. By the end of 1989, Eazy-Duz-It and [Straight Outta] Compton had sold a combined three million copies.  For writing the lion's share of both albums, Ice Cube saw a total of $32,000."
Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: Dre-Day on April 09, 2012, 05:55:40 AM
Hey Dre-Day -- found that book I was talking about when visiting the fam for Easter. It said:

"Of the $650,000 N.W.A grossed from their tour, Heller kept $150,000 for himself, while Cube walked away with a paltry $23,000. By the end of 1989, Eazy-Duz-It and [Straight Outta] Compton had sold a combined three million copies.  For writing the lion's share of both albums, Ice Cube saw a total of $32,000."
thanks for sharing.

i still wonder how the author of the book got those numbers. if these are true then cube definitely got ripped off, but i believe he earned more.
not sure how much jerry heller earned, but he did bring it up in his book if i'm not mistaken. i can look for that
Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on April 09, 2012, 08:57:56 AM
Yeah, I'd be interested in Heller's explanation of their contracts. I'll look for the book too if I end up at Barnes & Noble anytime soon and maybe read it for myself.

EDIT: I read the first ~50 pages on my iPad since the book is in the Apple store (or whatever it is) and they had a free sample... nothing yet of the contract details, but I found this part interesting:

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I once walked into Dre's house when he was living near me in a gated community in Calabasas.  He had asked me to go through a few things with him, check his business mail, straighten out some accounting.

I opened a desk drawer, stuffed full of papers.  I started going through it, and found an uncashed check for twelve thousand dollars.

"Hey, Andre?" What the fuck is this?" Digging deeper into the drawer, I discovered that there were several others.  I couldn't believe it.  I tore open envelopes from ASCAP and BMI, from various acts or producers, dated weeks or months previous.  Tens of thousands of dollars total, monies for his much-in-demand services as a beat maker, writer, and producer.  Meanwhile, the guy was constantly pleading poverty.

Dre looked at me with a soft smile and shrugged.  "I guess stuff kinda gets away from me," he said.
Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: Dre-Day on April 12, 2012, 09:08:41 AM
interesting, i don't really remember reading that part.

edit, ok i found the part i was referring to on page 74 & 75.

jerry said he earned a commission of 20%.
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every dollar comes into ruthless, i take twenty cents. that's industry standard for a manager of my caliber. i take twenty, you take eighty percent. i am responsible for my expenses, and you're responsible for yours. you own the company. i work for you

Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on April 12, 2012, 10:16:28 AM
Cool.  I think I might stop by Barnes & Noble after work, haha.
Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: 3rd Coast on April 12, 2012, 02:21:42 PM
disloyal motherfucker

exactly..

always said niggas who will open their mouth up about personal shit to the media...especially cats u just met...

will snitch

ice cube set the blueprint of not gettin fucked in a label situation..

u will think these niggas woulda learned
Title: Re: lol old tray dee interview
Post by: Black Excellence on April 12, 2012, 06:04:05 PM
Yeah, I'd be interested in Heller's explanation of their contracts. I'll look for the book too if I end up at Barnes & Noble anytime soon and maybe read it for myself.

EDIT: I read the first ~50 pages on my iPad since the book is in the Apple store (or whatever it is) and they had a free sample... nothing yet of the contract details, but I found this part interesting:

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I once walked into Dre's house when he was living near me in a gated community in Calabasas.  He had asked me to go through a few things with him, check his business mail, straighten out some accounting.

I opened a desk drawer, stuffed full of papers.  I started going through it, and found an uncashed check for twelve thousand dollars.

"Hey, Andre?" What the fuck is this?" Digging deeper into the drawer, I discovered that there were several others.  I couldn't believe it.  I tore open envelopes from ASCAP and BMI, from various acts or producers, dated weeks or months previous.  Tens of thousands of dollars total, monies for his much-in-demand services as a beat maker, writer, and producer.  Meanwhile, the guy was constantly pleading poverty.

Dre looked at me with a soft smile and shrugged.  "I guess stuff kinda gets away from me," he said.
that was very irresponsible of dr. dre.